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Money Order Fraud at Nepalese Embassy

   This was posted in the Comments Area of 25-Apr-03 nhuchche
     I have had the similar esperience with M 25-Apr-03 isolated freak
       Now why am I not surprised? I have heard 25-Apr-03 boke
         What rank/position does Mr tamang hold i 25-Apr-03 well-wisher
           kUKUR KO PUCHAR 12 BARSA DHUNGO MA RAKHE 25-Apr-03 playa_from_himalaya
             DB Tamang holds a clerk's position in Ne 29-Apr-03 boke
               I have the same experience in NY consula 29-Apr-03 Kale_ko_Chartikala
                 Prem, thank you for bringing this impo 29-Apr-03 sc
                   Guys, It doesn't matter who he (that ch 29-Apr-03 explorer
                     >>Perhaps Ashu, who is in Nepal and has 29-Apr-03 ashu
                       Unfotunately, Royal Nepalese Embassy, no 29-Apr-03 HahooGuru
                         The embassy does not function with digni 30-Apr-03 midwestdude
                           I had semilar exprienced with DB Tamang 30-Apr-03 as101
                             Hello Every one but i have very good ex 30-Apr-03 bonfide
                               >>We have also think about how much work 30-Apr-03 *****er
                                 >>We have also think about how much work 30-Apr-03 Shikhar
                                   Shikhar, I was just being sarcastic. [bu 30-Apr-03 *****er
                                     Timiharu US ma basera ghush tirne kam ga 30-Apr-03 Bhinaju
                                       Whoever r those ghusiyas, they should be 01-May-03 Saajan555
Yo bhinaju chahi "Makardhoj" ko sala ko 01-May-03 Deep
   teemi kasto saajan? Jutta ko mala rey.. 01-May-03 bhenda2
     BEWARE! IN CANADA TOO, NEPALESE FRIENDS 01-May-03 selfexplorer
       The ambassador would care but see he's s 05-May-03 NepaliChica91
         NepaliChica91, Do you have access to 05-May-03 boston_dude
           Nepalichica91 bro/sis, Finally, someo 05-May-03 Saajan555
             No, i am not a spokesperson for the emba 06-May-03 NepaliChica91
               yea i do know things about the embassy t 06-May-03 NepaliChica91
                 no, the embassy can't fire dem cuz if yo 06-May-03 NepaliChica91
                   no, the embassy can't fire dem cuz if yo 06-May-03 NepaliChica91
                     Dig B Tamang (DBT) is indeed a corrupt i 06-May-03 Major
                       Ambassador vs Embassy employee: Embas 06-May-03 HahooGuru
                         Chitta bujhyo guru! 06-May-03 Harris
                           1. So, too few people, too many passport 06-May-03 gotcha
                             Copy/paste from <a href=links.cfm?weburl 07-May-03 Puru Subedi
                               Hahooguruji The real stories that u sha 07-May-03 Saajan555
                                 HahooGuru made a few interesting points. 07-May-03 boston_dude
                                   I'm not sure now what is going on, but i 07-May-03 NepaliChica91
                                     Hahooguru, who is subba in the thrid c 07-May-03 NepaliChica91


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nhuchche Posted on 25-Apr-03 11:49 AM

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Money Order Fraud at Nepalese Embassy

My name is Prem S. Thapa and I am a Ph.D student at
Oklahoma State University, Oklahoma, USA. Last year my
passport expired, and as per the rules, I applied for
a new passport with all the documents, together with
$80.00. Strangely enough, when I called Nepalese
Embassy, one of the representatives, Mr. Tamang told
me that they had received everything except the money
order. He convinced me that it was missing and rightly
so, I went to United States Postal Service USPS and
explained them the situation. They advised me if the
money is not withdrawn in 3 months, then only they
will refund me the money and make another money order.
Since I was in hurry, I sent Embassy another money
order and got my passport back.

In the meantime, after 3 months, USPS returned my
$80.00 since the money was not withdrawn. Everything
went fine for a year, then all of a sudden, I got the
letter for USPS saying the money order of $80.00 the
one I had sent earlier was withdrawn and is deposited
to Embassy's account. I was surprised and this time
when I called, Mr. Tamang, along with Mr. Adhikari
started shouting at me saying nobody has done that and
the money was never withdrawn. I felt something was
cooking and talked to USPS about it. Since they were
the one who had to pay $80.00 since they had already
refunded me , they said this process has been going
for a long. Embassy usually keeps the money order for
a year and then draws the money. Since by that time,
most of the Nepalese move to different location USPS
can not track them down and has to pay the money.

Its becoming a big racket. USPS advised me to ask a
letter from Embassy saying they never
received/withdrawn the money. USPS advisor told me
that after that, it wouldn't be my problem; USPS would
deal with the Embassy directly. I was going to call
Embassy when I met one of the graduates from Oklahoma
State University, Mr. Rajendra Shrestha who has moved
to Houston, TX. He told me that he also got the same
response Lost money order and good shouting from Mr.
Tamang & Mr. Adhikari . I was shocked to see the
status of Nepalese Embassy. Being an organization,
representing Nepal, they are giving everyone a bad
name, and to top it all, they are depositing the money
in Embassy's name and then taking it out. My heart
ponders who else is involved, as they finally need to
take out the money from Embassy's account.

I finally called Mr. Tamang and politely asked him to
send me a letter since USPS needs it. God, his tone
changed drastically. "May be somebody accidentally
deposited the money. Why you want to involve USPS and
give Embassy a bad name." He begged and begged. Trust
me he was sounding like a housedog. I finally gave up
and he sent me the money order of $80.00 back.

Though I received my money back, there must be 100's
or even 1000's who might have been hit by this
low-level act of few Nepalese in the Embassy namely
Mr. Tamang and Mr. Adhikari may be others who knows .
I want the editor to make all the Nepalese living here
in USA aware that this process is happening and if
ever they get the answer "We never received the money
order", from Embassy, they should ask a letter and let
USPS handle everything.

A Concerned Nepalese.

Please feel free to contact me if you need any
documents as a proof. Though he did not send me the
letter, I have the money order from Royal Nepalese
Embassy, which they had returned me.

Email: s472903@yahoo.com
isolated freak Posted on 25-Apr-03 12:00 PM

I have had the similar esperience with Mr. Tamang. Once I was in the embassy, he charged us 20 dollars for somethng that the embassy was supposed to do for free.

D B Tamang jyu, still there?
boke Posted on 25-Apr-03 12:33 PM

Now why am I not surprised? I have heard of similar situations from several other people. I hope the federal authorities will persue this matter and appropriately punish these people. I have seen DB Tamang operate. He is rude to normal citizens, but when someone higher up shows up, he is like a wet mouse. His wife is a US citizen, so maybe it is hard to get him removed from the embassy job. But he is such a crude fellow, and very very inefficient at work.

He is a shame, not only to Tamangs, but to rest of the Nepalis in general because not only his bad behaviour at work effect us, his fellow citizens, but his is the frontline face when Tourists want to get visa to Nepal.

If there is someone out there who can do something about this boorish character who is much maligning Nepali image and not doing his job as he should, please take an action, please!
well-wisher Posted on 25-Apr-03 01:44 PM

What rank/position does Mr tamang hold in the Nepalese Embassy in Washington ?
playa_from_himalaya Posted on 25-Apr-03 05:02 PM

kUKUR KO PUCHAR 12 BARSA DHUNGO MA RAKHE PANI BANGO KO BANGAI BHANTHE, HO RA HE CHHA. MR. TAMANG SHOULD BE TRANSFFERED TO BIHAR BRANCH SO IS MR. ADHIKARI.

IF THEY DESPRATELY NEED MONEY COME OUT ON SAJHA AND ASK FOR DONATION. I AM IN FOR 20 BUCKS BUT STOP DOING THIS
boke Posted on 29-Apr-03 07:25 AM

DB Tamang holds a clerk's position in Nepalese Embassy.

The original posting in this thread has been copied to several English dailys - The Himalayan Times, The Kathmandu Post and The Nepali Times. Let's see if this action comes to any fruition or just gets forgotten in a typical Nepali "ke garne" fashion.

Perhaps Ashu, who is in Nepal and has all sorts of contacts there, can - in the spirit of fair justice - do some investigative journalism from the home front.

We have to hold these civil servants, like DB Tamang, accountable. These are the types of people who made our country famous for corruption. Likes of him are the reason why our government accomplishes so little. Granted that there is comparitively little we can do about this back home, but we can't let this happen here in the US of A.
Kale_ko_Chartikala Posted on 29-Apr-03 08:12 AM

I have the same experience in NY consulate office.

I had to resend the money order. But my old money order is not cashed yet!

Hummmmm..... I was also wondering how could the mail deliver the applications and just lose the moeny order and 2 pictures! Boy!
sc Posted on 29-Apr-03 09:58 AM

Prem,
thank you for bringing this important issue to the readers attention at sajha.Since this is outright fraud at the federal level,I am sure reporting it to proper authorities would bring these people to justice.Specially since it's occuring here in the US.It is not fair to Nepalese folks like you and me applying for passport renewals or other embassy related work.
Just filing a complaint at this point would get the ball rolling.
s.c.
explorer Posted on 29-Apr-03 12:34 PM

Guys,
It doesn't matter who he (that chor Tamang) married to or what his status is. It is a federal crime. if this happens again, report it to police or even to FBI (if necessary). Those who send money-orders should write the name (if not already written) as a remitter and keep a copy of it for the proof. Otherwise, make a 'cashier's check', it may be a good idea. BTW, if he is that 'unpopular' why is he still there? We should kick the shit out of him. Next time if he shouts at anyone, beat him up if you can. If you can't beat him up, call the cop and tell them that he is harrassing you. Put him away. That freak thinks he is in Nepal or what? No need to hear some bull... from these 'ghoosyas'.

ashu Posted on 29-Apr-03 06:58 PM

>>Perhaps Ashu, who is in Nepal and has all sorts of contacts there, can - in the spirit >>of fair justice - do some investigative journalism from the home front.


I am a mere fortnightly columnist (that too, writing primarily about business issues) for
a weekly English newspaper in Kathmandu.

But from what I understand through informal interactions, a number of first-rate full-time journalists in Nepal - working for The Kathmandu Post, The Himalayan Times, etc -- are aware of and are regular visitors of this site. They, I am sure, have visited this thread, and can take up this issue and see that a FAIR investigation gets done.

Personally, I think if the accused folks read this thread and if the accusations have a
ring of truth, this thread alone should act as enough of a deterrent for them to continue doing what they are doing.

An OPEN society, by definition, discourages corrupt practices.

oohi
"sad to hear about all these things going on in the DC embassy, and hope that they are NOT true"
ashu
ktm,nepal
HahooGuru Posted on 29-Apr-03 11:44 PM

Unfotunately, Royal Nepalese Embassy, not only in USa, but, in Japan too is little or more notorous in its Passport renewal issues.

Several time, I sent my passport. I got some funny receipt out of 7000 yen payments. When I asked to the employees at the embassy they said, they don't have money to have a formal receipt pad. Hahahahah.... I paid 7000 yen (=almost 57 dollars), and they say Embassy is poor not to have receipt printed according to HMG's revenue collection rule. Its funny Number 1.

Second. Everyone in Japan and Australia (those who are in Australia have to sent their Passport for renewal in Tokyo's Nepalese Emabssy). Well, outside that 7000yen, I was asked to pay the cost of returning passport. Well, I have no problem in this regard. But, problem arises :

Why the Nepali embassy does not allow me, when I asked them that I will put returning Postal stamps under the registered mail category? But, the officer in charge of Passport renewal forced me to send 1000yen. Then, I got my passport returned. But, the mathematics failed to explain 370yen i.e. Rs. 250 rupees (around) . Where did that Rs. 250 gone? That was my question. There was no receipt, nothing. I am still asking with the RNE in Tokyo what happens to that undeclared missing 370yen. It did not happen once it happened several time, not only with me, with several legally staying Nepalis? I wonder how much embassy employees ask for postal cost from those living in Australia. The cost of Express Mail Service from Japan to Australia is about 10dollars (US) i.e. 1200 yen for 250gram documents. I heard (when I talked on behalf of Nepali in Australia) that 3,000 yen additional was asked as Postal Charge. I wonder what happens to remaining 1,800yen? Who keeps that money?

Well, when Mr. Nepal was counselor at the emabssy, I tried to raise my defeciet, but, he as head of embassy's administration unit, he never entertained or tried to hear my complain. He always put a curtain and the phone receiving clerk always told me that he does not have time. At that time, there used to be a subba in the Passport renewing section who was notoroius, probably under the patron of former counsellor Mr. Nepal. For the god's sake Mr. Nepal and his team have already left to other destinations relieving the additional undeclared costs.

Fortunately, I heard that currently the embassy has changed the rule and asks to put postal stamps of 630yen (?) on all returning enevelops. I guess, in that case, the passport renewing person gets correct mathematics. That is probably a good sign of improvements at the moment. It seems there are some cunning employees in Ministory of Foreign affairs, the greedyness depends on these few ugly guys. Many peoples whom I asked said the previous practice in RNE/Tokyo have ceased with new team currently serving RNE/Tokyo. A part of former team, I heard now moved to HongKong. I heard from one Foreign Ministry employee that the guy who used to handle Passport in Tokyo was transferred to Lhasa Tibet, and he made a mutual transfer with a guy in HonKong and that guy paid Rs. 4/5lakhs as an understanding fee. It was said to me by another employee at Ministory of Foreign affairs. "K Garne", tyasali ghus khayo bhaner Lhasa pathayeko, arko lanthu le paisa khayera feri HongKong ka Nepali lai dukh dina HongKong Gayo. Aba tyaha ta British Gurkha ka chhora chori ko tyo Permanent residence sambnadhi kagjat milauda khub khancha re. ".........

Astu. Kati lekhu yaar yo ghus khwaunu parne kurama. Jata gayo tyati pwal chhan.
Dhanya hosa yaspatak nepal jada bhane tyo TIA ma kohi pani PAISA PAISA bhandai aayena. Natra ta kya............ paisa paisa bhanchan ho ............. as if Paisa drips from sky.

Haso lagne ta TIA ko immigration ma thiyo. Tyo immigration ko nepali k sodhyo bhane ni japanko visa khai? Ma Nepal chhirna lageko chhu, tyaslai japan ko visa kin chahi yo? Ani jaba visa dekhai diye ta ke bhancha, yasto pani huncha japan ko visa re? I was never asked the question for last 11 years, ki japan ko visa yasto huncha. Nepal chhirna lageko nepali lai Japan ko visa kina chahiyo? Ramailo ke. Mana gadahante rule le chaleko desh. Law and rule does not rule Nepa, but, "people's law" rules nepal.


HG
midwestdude Posted on 30-Apr-03 09:20 AM

The embassy does not function with dignity at all. I had my passport renewed in 2002. I did not face any problems with the renewal. Actually the PP arrived in 7 days and I was surprised! Good job but what got on my nerves was the way the person I was talking to communicated with me. I don't think it was Tamang but some other guy. Here I was trying to be as polite as I could and there he was talking to me in a rude manner as if he was doing me a favor! He was RUDE!!!

I wonder what the ambassador (if there is one) has to say to all these postings? Does he have the guts to stand up and take responsibility? Does he have the guts to clear the matter? Does he want to improve the image of the embassy? Above all does he CARE?

My recommendation to the embassy: if you can not find a Nepali to do his/her job, find an American who will atleast do his/her duty (s/he's paid for it). Atleast they know how to talk and to not cheat!!! Agreed there are rude Americans too but hey, the embassy is paying salary or are you employing them for free???
as101 Posted on 30-Apr-03 10:47 AM

I had semilar exprienced with DB Tamang at Royal nepal Embassy in washington DC. I don't know nepal government allow him to work at the embassy who don't do damn thing. Any time asked to do some things renewing passport or making new one he always wants to give hard time. He also don't know how to talk to people and he treat everyone so badly. It's about time he need tobe FIRED. we need to complain to Ambassador or mision in Nepal.
bonfide Posted on 30-Apr-03 10:50 AM

Hello Every one
but i have very good experince and cooperation from Nepalese Embassy. When My passport was expire and i have to go back Nepal urgetly i call D.B TAMANG tell my problem , they send my password with in week. i think he is nice for me but.........We have also think about how much work lot they have, No one is perfect.
*****er Posted on 30-Apr-03 10:58 AM

>>We have also think about how much work lot they have, No one is perfect.

Finally, we have someone giving them credit!!
Shikhar Posted on 30-Apr-03 03:08 PM

>>We have also think about how much work lot they have, No one is perfect.

>> >>Finally, we have someone giving them credit!!

No, I don't think they deserve credit for doing a sloppy job or in this case a fradulant one. If you think you cannot handle your job efficiently better find a job you can.. and let someone capable handle your job. Having a lot of work is not an good excuse for being rude to people. It is one of the many duties of the employees of the Nepalese Embassy to help us renew our passport and they have no reason to be rude or arrogant at a fellow nepali, and from it thread it seems it happens one too many times.

Mr. Bonfide - it does not matter if they sent your "password" with in week. We are talking about renewing our passports here.
*****er Posted on 30-Apr-03 03:18 PM

Shikhar, I was just being sarcastic. [but my sarcasm didn't seem to work :-0]
Bhinaju Posted on 30-Apr-03 11:14 PM

Timiharu US ma basera ghush tirne kam garchhau?

Pani maruwaharu!!
Saajan555 Posted on 01-May-03 09:48 AM

Whoever r those ghusiyas, they should be kicked out. Let's decorate Mr DB tamang and Mr adhikari and all involved with jutta ko mala. Ladiez, get ready with ur sandals to make some beautiful chappal chaap tattoss in their ugly faces. Let's start complaining from today. Let's email or phone the responsible ppl in authority. If they can't solve the problem, let's make them **ck outta there. Let's report our incidents to the police. Let me call the embassy and ask the concerned ppl just to check out this thread.
Deep Posted on 01-May-03 09:57 AM

Yo bhinaju chahi "Makardhoj" ko sala ko baini ko bhinaju jasto lagyo malai.

So, what has this got to do with "MONEY ORDER FRAUD AT NEPALESE EMBASSY" ?

Nothing! Kuro bhinaju le ni lekhchhan ke...."paani maruwaharu" rey! ho ta amrika ma "basera" ni ghus dina hunchha? ki ta sutera wa oothera athawa aru kunai tarikale deko bhaye arkai kuro tara basera kina deko?

****
Actually,if the embassay in DC is guilty of what Mr. prem is accusing the embassy of (and certain people there) doing, then this is sad! No doubt, such practices need to be corrected and corrected soon.
bhenda2 Posted on 01-May-03 10:01 AM

teemi kasto saajan?
Jutta ko mala rey....I have lots of old shoes....mala banauney belaaaa khabar garnoo.
selfexplorer Posted on 01-May-03 10:16 AM

BEWARE! IN CANADA TOO, NEPALESE FRIENDS ARE SAYING - UNLESS YOU SEND MORE MONEY YOUR WORK WILL BE PENDING. THEY WOULD SAY THIS AND THAT TO DELAY YOUR WORK DONE. EVENTUALLY, YOU HAVE TO GIVE THEM CHIYA KHARCHA...
NepaliChica91 Posted on 05-May-03 01:11 PM

The ambassador would care but see he's sick in the hospital!!!! think about it, why are u guys being so selfish!!! half of those people who work der don't even work! they don't want to sign anything or just go online and do stuff!!!!! and i am not talkin about dig tamang, but the ones who came from nepal to work as a second man or first man, etc~~ don't blame it on someone if you don't really know it!, dig tamang might be rude sometimes but maybe he acts that way because people LIKE u guys get on his nerves when workers like tamang have a stack load to renew passports of visas!!!!! if u really knew wat was going on in the nepal embassy or either worked there, i suggest u don't be so ignorant and think about what u say! Dig tamang isn't the only one to blame or isn't the man u are supposed to blame! so what if his wife is a us citizen! he's the one who works his butt off there and no else does work!!!!!!!! think about what u say!!!!!!
boston_dude Posted on 05-May-03 01:42 PM

NepaliChica91,

Do you have access to some inside information to have made the comments you made?

Mr. Tamang is responsible for his actions regardless of the excuses. If he is overworked, he should take up the issue to his superiors and not to the clients. Also, all this reflects terribly on the ambassador. He is the head of the embassy and is responsible for anything and everything that happens in the embassy. Any employee's poor performance reflects on the performance of the embassador himself.

Perhaps, the job stresses arise from compensation issues. I don't know what the payscale is like in the Nepali embassy. Maybe there is a huge descrepancy between the wages of embassy employees and wages of other Nepalis and Americans outside the embassy walls. This is not an excuse for the behavior that has been charged against the individuals in this posting; but maybe it is something worth addressing.

B_D.
Saajan555 Posted on 05-May-03 01:54 PM

Nepalichica91 bro/sis,

Finally, someone at least spoke out on behalf of Nepalese embassy. Anyway, r u the spokeperson for the embassy? If yes, make us more clear what's making those delays. U must have already noticed so many ppl complaining against ur deeds. R u trying to say that someone is not working and just collecting his monthly or weekly or whatever cheques? Why can't the ppl on the authority make them work off their butts? Isn't it their responsibility??????????? What's wrong with u guys??? There must be something wrong inside. Is someone hiding out sthg????????????? We, all the victims, r waiting for some real answers. Not the illogical or primed ones.
cheers!!!
NepaliChica91 Posted on 06-May-03 01:18 PM

No, i am not a spokesperson for the embassy, but i will say that i know these things! i have realized that you guys have lost money or things but there are the ranks like first or second secartaries that don't do nothing!!! i am not blaming anyone but i know for sure that it's not dig tamang's fault but he isn't the only one to blame!!! the nepal embassy is tryin to do something about the money fraud, but we also need the ambassador but he's sick in the hospital and they aren't sure wat will happen!!!
NepaliChica91 Posted on 06-May-03 01:23 PM

yea i do know things about the embassy that you may not know, but of course the ambassador would care if he had the time but he doesn't have that time, he's in the hospital and is very sick! it has been a few weeks that the ambassador has been sick! i am pretty sure dat as soon as the ambassador is felling better, things may be in more order than now. dig tamang might do that but you guys don't get your passports back in a long time because of some other people who work at the embassy, he does the work, believe me i see him work but he needs signatures of the 1secertary and so on! until they sign, no passport or whatever you need!
NepaliChica91 Posted on 06-May-03 01:30 PM

no, the embassy can't fire dem cuz if you visit da embassy the men who don't do der work aren't the ones who are clerks or khara or tamang! so they can't fire dem! sry!!~~~~~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NepaliChica91 Posted on 06-May-03 01:31 PM

no, the embassy can't fire dem cuz if you visit da embassy the men who don't do der work aren't the ones who are clerks or khara or tamang! so they can't fire dem! sry!!~~~~~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Major Posted on 06-May-03 04:28 PM

Dig B Tamang (DBT) is indeed a corrupt individual. Last time I visited D.C. Sep 2001 - DBT informed that the Embassy was out of passport. After an hour haggling, a D.C. friend (RCT) was able to get DBT find a passport and renew it within an hour. I know DBT was looking for an excuse for "khaja pani" bakshis.

His ass should have been fired long time back.
HahooGuru Posted on 06-May-03 05:07 PM

Ambassador vs Embassy employee:

Embassy usually have three tiers of employees:

1. Political appointments: ambassador. Day to day administrative works at embassy has nothing to do with Ambassador. In one talk with a Foreign ministry employee, I was told that Ambassador can not interfere in the administrative issues in Nepali embassy. He is mere an onlooker. He can convey or make requests to the embassy employees, but, he can enforce anything that his consciousness suggest its illegal or not good.

Ambassador also comes from political appointment = his background is ? = he does not want to annoy embassy employees, because he does not control or have influence in the Foreign Ministry Mafia of Lok Sewa Pass Gareka Hakims. Virtually, Ambassador at Nepali Embassy is KATHAI BARA BICHARO Kathaputali of Foreign Ministry. If he annoys anyone employee, they will run campaigns to Pull down to hell and give lessons. He has to depend on these employees kindness to meet peoples and do his jobs. He is very very fragile. So, the ambassador just keeps his eyes blind. In return, the ambassador brings -X-Y-Z peoples from Nepal as Maid, Kamgarne Kancha and helps them to find jobs in these rich countries. Most of the ambassadors have engaged in such business with the help of Embassy employees. Tai Chup Mai Chup. Well, if someone is really influencial then s/he can make differences. Ambassadors will never go against the employees who knows how to interpret the law and they know better than the ambassador. I wonder whehter our Nepali ambassadors really read the constitution (from top to bottom) of Nepal at least once in their life time.

2. Counsellor: 2nd class or first class Rajptrakit Karmachari: They are mostly engaged in jobs to support: itinerary of ambassador and other diplomatic jobs. They will not let ambassdor peep through the administrative work going on. They just make him happy and give an impression that without him, ambassador will find himself in hell: failure.

3. Third class "Section Officer" and Subba: They are engaged in playing money with Nepalis staying abroad: Visa to Passport issues.

The passport : they ask two kinds of languages: "Do you have visa?" This is very annoying question to any Nepali staying abroad. Nepali embassy employees in Passport section have no right to ask status of my visa. Why do they need visa status? They have even replied to me that since your visa is valid, you can renew your passport before your visa expires. Thats funny interpretation. Visa rule says (based on talk with visa officer of different country), visa is valid only until passport is valid. I don't know why they make such funny interpretation.

The reason I GUESS (based on talk with another Nepali with expired visa: overstay) is that they can make extra issues with those who don't have valid visa to stay in this country. I don't know with current employees at RNE, Tokyo, but, sometime back when another set was there, the passport renewing officer used to ask 10,000 to .........
yen (about 100US$ to upto 500$) from those have over stay status. The amount of money demanded depends on the place where they stay in Japan. Those living close to Tokyo paid less and those who stayed 1000s km away from Tokyo e.g. Kyushu, have to pay large sum of money. Those who denied to pay were asked to come to Embassy: a hook they used . Well, coming from 1000km away is risky and costly. Thus, paid .... Its what some of the over stayer told to me. I don't have new information.

I am not sure whether they have changed the application form for passport renewal. There is a box where you need to find a SECTION Officer to verify that applicant is a right person. In this other's country, how are you going to find another person of section officer rank. I remember when I spent at least 1 or two complete days roaming around ministry to attest my certificates when applying for some scholarship just after completing intermediate /certificate level. I wonder how a "overstayed" commoner can find section officer who can attest on his behalf. And, if you or anyone decline to pay the amount asked by embassy employees, your application form will not be signed by the section officer at the embassy. So, you can not get the passport. Well, its the realty.


There is another hole where embassy employees do make money. Some peoples lost their passport in their escape runs from one place to another. They needed some docs to return to Nepal.

.....

When whole system is so corrupt, where do you want to complain. There should be someone who can listen to our complain and rectify those problems. IF you complain with Ambassdor or Nepali Govt. in Nepal, what they will do. They will pass the information to the embassy employees "hos garnus hai yaha complain ayeko thiyo. Yaspali chai maile milai diye:

===> chyatera fali diye. or explained with higher authority: tyahi ta ho ni Nepali ko bani hazur alikati kehi bhayo ki thulo swor garera karaune. khas kehi bhayeko hoina, niyem le namilne kura lai namilne bhanda bakhada gareko matra ho. ....

Aaj ko Gyan:
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Visa Officer, Passport Officer, Immigration Officers, Tax Officer, Police, Army Personnel, and Gunda [and in Nepal, include the JOURNALISTS, too] with whom you should not disagree. They never listen to your disagreements. Fulfill what they demand, leave the place as early as possible so that s/he does not call you back and cancel or surcharge demands.

HG

Harris Posted on 06-May-03 07:43 PM

Chitta bujhyo guru!
gotcha Posted on 06-May-03 07:48 PM

1. So, too few people, too many passport to renew! Too much work! Is it? Let us see ...
Suppose there are 10,000 people with Nepali passport. Each passport is valid for 5 years. Hence, on average 2,000 passport to be renewed each year. Out of 365 days in a year, 104 weekends off, another 21 days off for this-and-that jayati. We're left with about 240 working days. That works out to be 8.3 passport renewal per day. If is too much for a full-time employee?

2. In order to return each passport by certified mail, you need to pay about $4. If you have 4 persons in your family to renew passport, you send $16. The renewed passports come in one envelope - total cost about $6 EVEN IF they were sent by certified mail. $10 jhwam!

3. My own experience is: the embassy returned my three passports by REGULAR mail when I had sent stamps for certified mail.

4. If Mr. Tamang's job is to renew passport. Just do it. No chakadi. No hapki-dapki. The First/Second Secretaries should be available to sign eight passports a day. Nepal maa jastai office ko table maa topi rakhera 7-Eleven maa kaam garna jaanchhan ki sabai? Khoi ...

Puru Subedi Posted on 07-May-03 05:58 AM

Copy/paste from http://www.nepalipost.com . Thought this update might be appropriate here.
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Saajan555 Posted on 07-May-03 09:16 AM

Hahooguruji
The real stories that u shared are definitely heart-breaking. So, sad....... bujhera pani bujhpachauna parda. I wish all the involved ppl from the embassies would go through this thread at once. That might bring at least some lil' change in them. tara... kukur ko puchhar bara barsa dhungro rakhe ni ustai bhane justo po ho ki????????????????????????
cheers!!!
boston_dude Posted on 07-May-03 09:49 AM

HahooGuru made a few interesting points. However, I still say the embassador is the head of the embassy and is therefore ultimately responsible for embassy activities. If he feels that he does not have the authority, directly or indirectly to control the embassy's activities then he should quit the job. An emabssador is high enough a profile position to command some respect and attention. If the embassador to the US files in a resignation, then I am sure it will raise some eye brows. He should have the guts to do this, or at least threaten to do so, to get the job done. If he is not willing or capable of doing so, then he is not a worthy embassador. If he can't even find a way of bringing order in his own house, then how can he represent a whole nation?

If the establishment does not address the problems of the embassy, then there is something else we can do. We can hurt them where it hurts the most. What do these people prize the most? Recognition. They want to be recognized for being "taukes". Well, we can rally against them whenever they attend public events so instead of getting "samman" they get heckled at these events. Like when they show up for ANA organized or similar events. We can shame them into doing the job they are supposed to do. Public protests like the posting here can be a good begining.

B_D.
NepaliChica91 Posted on 07-May-03 12:15 PM

I'm not sure now what is going on, but i will tell you one thing........ those consulers don't do anything! they just stay there, sit, and get paid! believe me, they don't even know how to speak english properly or work! i don't know why they are there but they are! i can't do anythin about it but speak out my opinion! the ambassador has dutites of his own and tries for everything to be perect! he may try hard at work but sometimes i don't get it with the nepal embassy, i mean why can't everyone get involed together and not blame only on one person! i know, that some workers at the embassy are not as polite but sometimes they get annoyed with the higher officals and take it on the people who want to renew their passports! i have no clue where this is going! it was from one place and shifted! who know's where this topic will lead?
NepaliChica91 Posted on 07-May-03 12:22 PM

Hahooguru,
who is subba in the thrid class, there is not really a class involed in the embassy! it only goes that way if people want to make it that way! everyone shouldn't have a different class they are part of but they should all come together and figure out what to do from everyone's help. not just dump all the work on someone. Gettin passports renewed or visas, etc for people might help everyone if each person from the embassy employes had one job to make your passport renewed or visa get done quicker, then there migh be a chance for people to get their visa or passport back soon! this is just an idea, and if the nepal embassy would take time to look at this thread of people's mind, then maybe they would take their work more seriously and listen to our ideas!!!