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Posted on 06-01-06 1:01 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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In various parts of the country the Newari Community united against the govt policy on secularism specifically from 'languarge angle'!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Newari people are the last hope for saving the country!
They are a proud people and everyone will support them against what is now going on!!

More demos to come from Newari community especially tomorrow when Prachanda,the killer of 14000+ people, comes to KTM!!!!!!!

We are proud of you Newaris and WE ALL are with you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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HOW DO YOU FANTASIZE ALL THAT, guys?

The Newari peace march was in SUPPORT of the government declaration of secular state. Yes, Newars are a great people but not for what you guys said! Listen to the BBC Nepali or read the news in any number of online sources.

On a related note, are you guys so weak religiously that you want a state mechanism to protect your religion? Religion should be a question of personal choice; the state cannot and must not impose a religion. Nor does a state have a religion. If you are real Hindus, you should have the confidence to reform the religion and promote it as a person and soceity but not expect the government to do for you while you corrupt yourself. What did the gov do good to it in the last 41 years when the state was a Hindu one?

Hindus should take it as an opportunity to reform and promote Hinduism. Good Hindus are already doing it. But the fundamentalist elements like Bharat Keshari Singh and other Mandales who always used religion as a means to collect wealth, power, or status illegally and unethically are the ones who are making a hue and cry out of it now.

Beware that people are not so stupid as you think they are.
 
Posted on 06-01-06 1:48 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Now our mandale bhais will also want to use the following news item as a proganda against democracy!!! But I wonder if they will dare.
These slaves' master mandales are employing professional goons, former Maoists, and in some instances as in Chabhil and Sunsari army and police men to loot, kill, and create chaos. That is all.

भिजिलान्तेसँग झडप

शंकर खरेल (Kantipur)

इटहरी, जेठ १७ - सैनिक भर्ती रोकिएको बहानामा यहाँ भएको प्रदर्शनमा भिजिलान्ते पसेपछि सर्वसाधारणसँग झडप भएको छ । त्यसक्रममा २० भन्दा बढी घाइते भएका छन् । घटनाले बुधबार इटहरी बजार तनावग्रस्त रह्यो ।
पूर्वी पृतना मुख्यालयले एक महिनाअघि गरेको सैनिक भर्ना आह्वान अन्तिम समयमा स्थगन भएको सूचना दिएपछि विरोधमा आक्रोशित प्रशिक्षार्थी नारा लगाउँदै बजार क्षेत्रतर्फ गइरहेका बेला भिजिलान्ते पसेर बन्द र तोडफोड सुरु गरेका थिए । भीडमा पसी उनीहरूले सात दलविरुद्ध नाराबाजी सुरु गरेपछि घर-घरबाट कार्यकर्ता सडकमा निस्केका थिए ।

'ऋण काढेर दुःखले भर्ती हुन आएका थियौं, स्थगितको सूचनाले आक्रोशित पार्नु स्वाभाविक थियो,' ताप्लेजुङबाट आएका माइतराज लिम्बूले भने- 'तर अपरिचित व्यक्ति आएर तोडफोड गर्न थाले र स्थिति तत्कालै सोचेभन्दा विपरीत भइदियो ।' जिल्लाबाट आएर होटलमा बसेका ६५ युवा स्थगनको सूचना पाउनासाथ नाराबाजी गर्दै इटहरी चोक पुगेका थिए । आक्रोशित युवाको भीडमा अचानकै केही भिजिलान्ते प्रवेश गरी सरकार र सात दलविरुद्ध नारा लगाए । उनीहरूले आधा दर्जनभन्दा बढी सवारी साधन तोडफोड गर्नुका साथै बटुवालाई कुटपिट गरेका थिए ।

सात दल र निकट भ्रातृ संस्थाका फर्फराइरहेका झन्डा च्यात्नुका साथै समूहले लोकतन्त्रविरुद्ध नारा लगाएपछि स्थानीय युवासित केहीबेर झडप भयो । झडपमा युवाहरूले चार बहालवाला सैनिकलाई पक्रेर प्रहरीकहाँ बुझाएका थिए । तीन जना इलाका प्रहरी पुर्‍याउनासाथ भाग्न सफल भए । रंगेली सुरक्षा बेसक्याम्पका जवान विकास जीसी सख्त घाइते भए।

स्रोत अनुसार प्रहरीले भिजिलान्तेको सहभागिता नदेखाउन घाइते २० युवालाई हिरासतमा राखेर कारबाही अघि बढाएको छ । पक्राउ सबै घाइते छन् । प्रहरी निरीक्षक सुदीपराज राजभण्डारीले यसबारे अध्ययन भइरहेको बताए । पृतना मुख्यालयले भने घटनाबारे आश्चर्य व्यक्त गर्दै सरकारको निर्देशनपछि भर्ना रोकिएको बताएको छ ।

What other evidence do we need, guys?
 
Posted on 06-01-06 2:14 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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See the pictures and program report at
http://www.mysansar.com/?p=463#
 
Posted on 06-01-06 5:26 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Thousands of people from the Newari community take part in a mass public gathering welcoming the House proclamation that declared Nepal a secular state at Basantapur, Kathmandu on Thursday.
(Photo: Shruti Shrestha )

 
Posted on 06-01-06 5:53 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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I don't know why newars people would go on celebrating secularism????Newar has deep root in hinduism and culture from the time of Newar MAlla kings of KTM valley.though they might keep quite .i don't see point of them celebrating it.there are buddist newars -shakya and bajracharya but most of them are hindu as well as buddist.

If newar people looks this as defeat to brahims then they are mistaken.They are mislead .In newars there are lot of castes too.Look at the hindu culture of newar they are rich.So , there are lot of newars in terai as well so saying that newar as whole supports secularism is wrong may be these few people do.

if newar looks this as oppurtunity that there wil less domination of brahim in the field of politics and goverance then they are mistaken .I always said if u want something you have to work for it no body or no system can spoon feed.

Then again ,kantipur.hahahahahah.they have habit of taking picture from one place and putting wrong titles in it.
 
Posted on 06-01-06 5:57 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Kalki Kapil is the biggest loser in the world. He is so desperate to find support for his lost cause that he needs to portray a rally supporting secularism as an anti government rally. If people like Kalki Kapil needs to stoop so low to bend the truth to find even a semblance of support, then this is a sorry state for monarchy supporters.
 
Posted on 06-01-06 6:07 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Nepal being Secualar is the best thing that could happen. Philosophically, this promotes change in Nepal and tells by example that change is Ok, Change is good. Ultimately, this will lead to the unravelling of many unqualified individuals holding high positions in society, and will diminish and eventually eliminate social exclusion
 
Posted on 06-01-06 6:43 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Declaration of a secular state doesn't mean that Hinduism is banned in Nepal. Secularism doesn't mean that all Hindu Temples and shrines will be demolished. Secularism means an equal status and opportunity to flourish all religions of the country.

Majority of the population are Hindus. It doesn't mean that the country has to be declared Hindu. By doing so, we just dominate other religions.
 
Posted on 06-01-06 6:45 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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And Newari Demonstration? Its not a demonstration or protest rally. Its a support rally for the country being declared a secular state.
 
Posted on 06-01-06 7:32 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Imi,

What the hell are you talking about? Are you trying to say that Newaris and Janajatis are not hard working? That is not true and a lot of people will find that offensive. In spite of all the hard work, some people may not reach their potential and recognition because of discrimination.

You are flip flopping in your argument about being spoon feeding. No one is asking to be spoon fed. All they are asking for is equal opportunity for all religions and ethinic groups. On one hand you are saying that no one should be spoon fed but you want special treatments for you because of your religion. That is a double standard. Don't you think so?
 
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dude,
my instance has never been double standard .i am not saying they are not hard working or anything.I am saying .System doesn't really matter it is individual who makes the difference.i am not blaming newar or any janjati out here .How can i go against newar.:).that is why my logic and reason for keeping nepal hindu has never been based upon upliftment crap.Look at affirmative action .how successful it has been???And newars donot belong to that category.I am just pointing out the closeness of newar and hinduism .So , i don't think newars are getting things right here.
 
Posted on 06-01-06 8:03 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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kudos to the newars!
 
Posted on 06-01-06 11:43 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Imi,

I do not think you have a right to say whether Newars should celebrate or not. I am sure they know what is best for themselves. How would you feel if someone told you what you should eat for your dinner? So you should stop poking at other people's business. Probably, Newars have such strong culture and heritage that they do not feel threatened by secularism like you do. After all, secularism is not banning any one from following their religion or culture.

In addition, you are practicing double standards. On one hand you say that minorities should stand on their own feet and only hard work will make them successful. On the other hand you ask for special treatment for Hindus. I see double standard there. Don't you?

I agree with you that ultimately you need hard work to be successful in any system. However, hard work will bring you success but system also matters. Think about the scenario if you were born as dalit woman in Nepal. Would you have got the same opportunties and would you have reached wherever you are without the advantage you received partly due to your religion?
 
Posted on 06-01-06 11:51 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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I think Capital of Nepal should now be somewhere else. Hello newars, c'mon fight for that... chase all bahuns out from Kathamndu.. this is your chance.. demand that capital be moved from Kathamndu to soemwhere else... so that you newars can devlop yourself inside the Valley... If Shah dynasty gonna end, then why not bring back the Valley in the state prior to Prithvi Narayan Shah?
 
Posted on 06-02-06 12:46 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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kalki kapil and amrit joshi are hilarious - i wonder where they get their facts from! their minds are filled with big ideas, images, and distorted facts!!

thanks to lonely1 and dreamz for setting the record straight.

the newar community's march was in support of Secular Nepal. This was partly a "Hoshiyar" march to remind the government not to give in to the demand of the India-based Hindu fundamentalist orgs and their Nepali stooges' demand. They were, moreover, seeking official recognition for their NEWA language, which should have been granted ages ago.

Likewise the Janjati Adivashis marked yesterday as a "Black Day", to remember the supreme court's past biased historic decision to strike at the spirit of multicultural, multilingual, and multi-religious reality of Nepal by failing to recognize the language demands of various groups of Nepal. These groups want the state to recognize the use of mother languages at local level as well as as medium of instructions at schools. They were also out in support of the government's declaration re: secular Nepal as well as the incumbents not to give into the Hindu fundamentalists!
 
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very funny. If Shah bansha go away then either Koirala or Pokharel is gonna rule again.
 
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dude Pat,
i had nothing to do with my religion where i am right now .ok you are just getting everything wrong.This is social structure not religious .You need to realize that. Social change is needed but think even in most developed countries poor has remained poor.Let me tell you our family had to work had though i came from hindu . hinduism and being upper caste didn't gave us treasure.So u need to realize that.I never asked state to fund hinduism or anything since hinduism in integral part of our culture and heritage .Also being newar , i think it is nothing to celebrate .The newar are getting wrong out here cause they are demanding there language they are mad with shah dynasty and crap.I believe that it is right of newar to preserve their language but to demand and trying to get something out of secularism is totaly wrong.I am newar and i know lot of newar who still thinks hindu country would have been better so how can you say newar community as whole support secularism .It is individual preference not communial.You need to realize that.and let me reiterate i neverhad and will never have double standard in my argument .Let it be political ,social or anyother issues.What i believe is what i believe if i am wrong or i offended somebody i had apolozied .i have changed my view but never had double standard .pat so i pat you back .got it buddy:)
 
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Fundamentalists are the ones who are so insecure so inept so ill informed within their religious awareness that they seek state legislation to make themselves legitimate and remind themselves of their identity. Such are some of the people here who want theocracy above democracy. Makes me laugh and makes me sad.
 



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