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 Murari Raj Sharma in US being used for personal gains

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Posted on 09-20-05 12:59 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Is Murari Raj Sharma the same person who used to work in IAAS Rampur ?

Can anyone post his picture here please ?
 
Posted on 09-21-05 12:18 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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He was promoted by Girija violating the seniority because there was other senior than him within the ministry. So, when he is supporting voice of corrupt people or in another word voice of RAW than no need to be surprised. But, I am concern about his recent activities. As a advisor in the UN committee, can he talke part in such street political activities or not and also can he write politically biased articles or not? When he is politically biased, how could his advise be accepted by UN?
 
Posted on 09-21-05 12:26 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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I totally agree with KLPD. But see how ashu talks about... he thinks Murari is doing OK.... probably that's what Ashu himself wanna be.... It looks like if I give Ashu 10million dollars, he will agree to wipe my arse. That's exactly what Ashu is trying to tell us here.
 
Posted on 09-21-05 1:05 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Prem Dai,
10 million to wipe asre? That's very expensive arse ;-)
Shiv
 
Posted on 09-21-05 1:25 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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That's the way Ashu talks here.. I didn't put that price...
 
Posted on 09-21-05 1:48 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Nepali CHOR, DHAKA, PHATAHA, APARADHI ra KUKUR haru le USA, UK, Australia ra CANADA pani khatam garna lageyo.

Yo Nepai Chor Dhaka haru lai jiudai Khalta ma hale ra pure pani PaP chahi lagdai na hai.

Now, We have to save Nepal as well as other countries from these Nepalese Crooks.
 
Posted on 09-21-05 5:19 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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1. Although some tabloids and pro-king oneliners of Sajha are trying to present Murari Raj Sharma-jee as the LEADER of pro-democracy movement of Nepali diaspora in the US, the fact of the matter is that the movement is a collective campaign without any formal or informal 'leaders'.

If anybody appears as a 'leader', it would be by the person's contributions rather than by the public position he/she holds and or by general public's acceptance rather than by the frequency at which a name appears in communications, in my humble opinion.

And, this kind of 'spontaneous' leadership is yet to be seen among Nepali Diaspora, in my not so humble opinion.


2. If NY Rally (and "Citizen's movement" in Nepal) is any guide, UNAMBIGUOUS and UNCONDITIONAL commitment to REPUBLIC DEMOCRACY and willingness to be vocal and be at the forefront of the activism for REPUBLIC DEMOCRACY are what will make you public's leader at this particular time of our history.

(Extending that to political parties' movement, political leaders' AMBIGUITY and CONDITIONALITY about REPUBLIC DEMOCRACY is 50% explanation to the cold shoulder shown by public at large to their ANDOLAN. ROTTEN and the same OLD personalities in their leadership is remaining 50% explanation, in my view.)

Murari-jee is a person with a huge potential for 'leadership'. If he has ambition as well, my suggestion would be to come forward, declare his faith in REPUBLIC DEMOCRCAY and be a vocal activist for the same. The future of Nepal is REPUBLIC DEMOCRACY and the early birds will have more clout than the late comer republicans in future public imagination.

Otherwise, with his current position of a general democrat voicing general support for RESTORATION of democracy, civil liberty and human rights in Nepal, Murari Raj-jee will remain a respected activist but not the LEADER people are looking for.


3. The issues like right of faith, right of expression, contract at job are issues for peaceful time when democracy is already there. When you are still fighting with a tyranny to bring democracy, the fight for democracy overtakes everything. DEMOCRACY is something you can not give birth to or kill it DEMOCRATICALLY. So democratic norms does not apply before and during the birth of democracy. It applies after the birth of democracy. 'Does not apply' does not mean you can not practice. You can. You only can not demand.

If you want to talk about democratic norms, come when we are not talking about tyranny.

So ethics is not on Murari-jee's way to stop him, if he wishes to go all the way to take on the King.

(Disclaimer: This persuasive, if not manipulative, note of mine is indeed directed at Murari Raj-jee to attract him to republican bandwagon. Nepe)


 
Posted on 09-21-05 7:29 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Shiv writes:

"All I have to say is [Murari] is another opportunist who is looking for another opportunity to divulge in power."



OK.

Yes, some Nepalis might well be offended by such an act of 'opportunism', but, let's
have the broad-mindedness to accept that such an opportunism is neither illegal nor unethical in that it's perfectly all right for anyone to position oneself as a future beneficiary of a political regime.

It's only human nature to think ahead, and make choices now in the hope that those choices will make one better off in the future.

Every choice comes with its own risks and rewards, and as long as MRS alone is ultimately responsible for his present choices, I, for one, have no problem with
what he does as an extracurricular.

My point is this: Just because we are offended or emotionally hurt by someone's public actions provides NO firm basis to criticize that person's actions and motives so long as what that person does offends ONLY our sense of what is proper and NOT hard laws.

Tetti ho.

oohi
ashu
 
Posted on 09-21-05 8:05 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Well my comment on MRS is that he finds everything all right as long as he is in a position but when he is kicked out then he suddenly change the camp. He was serving as aPR of Nepal even after the KIng has taken executive power. He didn't leave that position even his tenure was over. He was then forcefully kicked out in Oct-Nov 2004 the he started shwoing his grievances. If he is truely for democracy then why the hell he was silent after Asoj 18?

He is still representing government of Nepal in Budgetary Committee and he is even seeking governments endorsement for second tenure. But, when the government refused to endorse him then he started becoming mad and wrote couple of articles. Instead of expecting undemocratc government's favour why can't he resign from that committee and go to street of Nepal to fight for "democracy"?

By the way, his achievement in almsot five years in Nepal Mission as a PR is he lobbyed to elect Nepal in a very important position, i.e, member of Budgetary Council, where he secured his job after his tenure in Nepal Mission!!!!

His own brother and bhanja (by the way he brought them as maid servant) were employed as local staff in Nepal Mission. When the present PR Madhuraman sacked them, then again MRS started spitting venum against MRA and King. His attitude is TAK PARE TIWARI NATRA GOTAME.
 
Posted on 09-21-05 9:05 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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As I always say.... Ashu is a big ASAhole... Go and lick the AS$ of MRS. YOu can even become Mrs. of MRS. Buddhi herana Buddhu yo moro Ashu ko.. Murari le gareko kura thik ho re... thukka !!! That's why you say.. you are talking about ETHICS here.. but you say everything is ethical as long as it profits you.. you are blind coz withyour ass*hole brain you didn't really understood the Market.
 
Posted on 09-21-05 11:32 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Let's not get personal and refrain ourselves.

MRS could be the next Nelson Mandela, Jimmy Carter, JFK or no body at all, that is not the point.

I agree with PSC.

About Nepe's remark all I can say is there are some phrases that are used in Sajha frequently which claims other persons remarks as biased, influenced by corruption or personal reasons etc which has no meaning whatsoever. It is a SAJHA political rhetoric which means nothing [at least to me ;-)]. Nepe starts with a bang who ever is against MRS is against democracy.. when will the political parties and their influence learn to get critism without getting red-faced? (for clarification I am not affiliated with the royals or any political parties nor have any influence in any way in the social or political arena of Nepal, I am only an independent observer suffering from the current turmoil in Nepal)

Ashu, no it is not bad to think ahead or have political ambitions from a public employee. I am not against MRS or care for him however he does not sound like the person with a good moral character, this conclusion of mine is only based on his recent behavior.
He does have the right to do what ever he wishes and we as public have the right to comment on his actions and judge his current stand. Isn?t this the fundamental of democracy?

 
Posted on 09-21-05 11:47 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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> So ethics is not on Murari-jee's way to stop him, if he wishes to go all the way to take on the King.
So be it. I wish him good luck in his endeavours.
You are right, ethics has not stopped anyone from doing anything bad. When it comes to ethics even if we search every where we will not find it because no-one has it..


 
Posted on 09-22-05 12:35 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Prem dai, as a long time co-contributor to Sajha, I feel your disagreement with Ashu is spilling over to raise someone's eyebrows, atleast it happened to me.
Ashu, you are right, MRS (Multiple Resistant Syndrome), or Murariji have their rights, but the question here is manipulation and misuse of power, ethics, and sacrifices that comes witha responsibility. I have nothing to say against his effort to bring back democracy in right track back home, but only praise if his sacrifice is without any hidden agenda of selfishness.
 
Posted on 09-22-05 1:43 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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"A protest rally led by him and demanding that Nepal not be allowed to represent herself in the 60th UN Summit has given rise to a big question mark on his nationality. "

What could be the another worse to Nepal, when so called bonafide citizen of Nepal is unethical, immoral and pathetic, totally go against his own country..

NO QUESTION, NO OFFENCE ON HIS Democratic beliefs but is it necessary to demand that nepal not be allowed to represent herself in 60th UN Summit just becoz he wants democracy ( who knows what he wants, may be he wants to join Nepe's bandwagon of "Dream-On" republic state - Ki kaso Nepe Sir ) ?

Why the hell he does not go back home and be true leader and activist what so ever?.. Why in the world he has to perform GAI JATRA here in US ?

Nepe Jee, It make sense for you guys to do and die for democracy.. But will you go against NEPAL (in this context NEPAL is totally different from KG) if you happen to represent 20 million people and singo NEPAL in the world arena..?

I feel so sorry Nepe jee, you guys are so short of people with common sense to join your republican wagon, that you guys have to applaude for MRS entry...

Congratulation you finally got the leader...

Nepe ji my 2 cents' suggestion -- Be not big time looser and TRAITOR like MRS

 
Posted on 09-22-05 5:43 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Here the underlying issue is the objective of the rally. So does this prove that the rally was just a staged drama for the opportunist to take an advantage of the situation?

As I said before and I am saying now, let us know what are you trying to achieve through these rallys? Also avoid the oppportuinsts like Murari and Sujata. Then may be people will beleive in your efforts. Else its just an staged drama for the opportunist.

Ashu, Murari has right to express his views. But his views show that the he is an opportunist trying to take adavantage of the situation. This jots down to the essence of the rally. What was it for? People claim its for democracy. But was it for real??
 
Posted on 09-22-05 5:58 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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King went on the field trip to Lalitpur. People over there showed popular support. Just think after all what had happened why he has this support.

First of all the so called democratic forces induldged thmselves in massive corruption and criminal activities.

The maoists on the other hand are showing their barbaric nature.

ALso look ath culture and history of Nepal. You people will no way in hell would able to convince old folks to go against the king especially who does not have good education. Before you all brand me as royalist, especially Nepe you, please give a thaught to these underlying issues. Any representative show be aware of these facts to lead the people of Nepal.

Chanting republican rhetoric will not gain anything at this moment. Let the people decide about it. For that also peace is essential which colud not be attained unless every party involved compriemise. Let there be free election in the international supervision. Let the elected govt moe to the full democracy and working on the frame work that would help eliminate corruption and lead to better governance.

I really feel like people are not understanding the essence of the democracy. Its for the people by the people. Do you really believe people had the say when there was so called democracy. Nope. It was only for the corrupt and inept. Think about these issues.

Peace
 
Posted on 09-22-05 6:46 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Here one thing I want to make it clear....... I was in the rally but I was not there for Mr Sharma....i was there to show support to those Nepali who are demanding loktantra in Nepal. And in rally different type of people come and talk. It is true if I was organizer I wouldn't have Mr. Sharma give speech.......cause he has not made clear so far if he supports loktantra or not......
 
Posted on 09-22-05 8:10 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Murari Raj Sharma was NOT the "chief guest" at the rally. No one was.

Murari Raj Sharma attended the rally on the capacity of an ordinary Nepali living in the US who believes in democracy in Nepal, like every other nearly 400 people who were there.

Murari Raj Sharma was given the podium (I suppose) because he happens to be one of the prominent Nepalis, both in political and social circles, in New York. Ten others were granted the same opportunity to speak (for 2 minutes) at the rally.

If Mr. Sharma had any hidden agenda behind his participation at the rally, that is HIS problem, not any other participants' at the rally. The time has not come yet to make that judgement about him.

For those who make foolish claims that this rally was hijacked by Mr. Sharma -- like they claimed the rally in DC was hijacked by Sujata (when she was NOT even given ANY prominence there!) -- I am afraid YOU must be trying to hijack the rally the other way around by clinging to baseless accusations of Mr. Sharma being the "guest of honor" at the rally.
 
Posted on 09-22-05 8:42 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Sharma, who once welcomed the October 4 royal move, started protesting against the incumbent government after he failed to grab the UN position.

Isn't this enough proof that MRS should not be allowed to talk in the Rally? Isn't it enough to question his ethics? Isn't it enough to declare that he is opportunists... and opportunists are what we don't want anywhere.
 
Posted on 09-22-05 9:15 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Prem Dai talking about ethics and morality, PRICELESS!
 
Posted on 09-22-05 9:35 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Mr. SHahi,

Honestly every body wants freedom, peace, stability. Thats just human nature. I a neutral person and would like to see peace back in Nepal.

Please look at the issues. How the people can believe that its for good cause when Sujata Koirala is there in the rally. DO not you think thats enough to create doubts? People in rally are so pro republic. But could you explain how would you keep the maoists out from power if there is republic?

Do not you think that Nepalese had enough with all the fake promises from monarchy to the parties to the maoists to make them skeptical?

I am skeptic. The presence of opportunists makes me more skeptic. If Murari in the current rally and Sujata in the previous rally were not the chief guest thats ok. But there is still underlying issue ie; they are there to take the opportunity. You should look at that. You shpuld be able to come up with the plan to marginalize the opportunists and the corrupt when democracy returns. You should be able to show how the republic is possible without maoists coming tgo power.

For my sake, I do not see a logic behind fighting for from one corrupt to another. If you talk about democracy, was there really a democracy when there was party rule??

Peace


 



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