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| vivashme |
Posted
on 28-Feb-02 09:54 AM
Lets say most accomplished people are those who have performed well in their field and received national (US) or international media coverage. Here are some of the people that I heard here on sajha.com:
1. Samrat Upadhayaya (English Literature)
2. The lady who made lot of money selling software
3. Kiran Chetry (Broadcast Journalism/News Anchor)
http://www.gbnc.org/sajha/html/OpenThread.cfm?forum=2&ThreadID=2360
4. Deveen Thapa Magar (Boxing)
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Any other suggestions?
-ViVashMe
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| _BP |
Posted
on 28-Feb-02 05:00 PM
I know of several accomplished Nepali physicians here in the states:
Dhana Kaushik, MD, Radiologist at Cedars-Sinai Hospital, Los Angeles, CA
Banskota, MD, Endocrinologist, Los Angeles, CA
Pradhan, MD, Head and Neck Surgery, New York, NY
Hari Sharma, MD, Internist, Maryland
And the up-and-comers:
Monica Manandhar, MD, Columbia University, New York, NY
Rakesh Karmacharya, MD-PhD, Albert Einstein Medical Center, New York, NY
Shailesh Malla, MD, Albert Einstein Medical Center, New York, NY
I am sure there are others. In other fields. It is easy to get tunnel vision in medicine.
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| NoStringAttached |
Posted
on 28-Feb-02 06:24 PM
Hey, i think u forgot about my dad. He is really successful and earns $950,000 p.a.
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| vivashme |
Posted
on 08-Mar-02 10:16 PM
but is he or his work covered by national or international media :-)
Seriously, who do you think are the top 10 Nepalese people that we should be proud of in the US
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| timal |
Posted
on 09-Mar-02 06:49 PM
If Tamangs are also counted as Nepalis (it appears they are not in Nepal), then Binay Tamang of Caldera is also an achiever. He is a Vice President of Caldera.
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| Suman |
Posted
on 09-Mar-02 08:52 PM
Obviously I've some free time and cannot resist the temptation from this thread.
God! In the US radiologists, physicians vice presidents, presidents etc. are equivalents of cooks, drivers, conductors etc. unless they have some significant breakthrough achievements not only covered by media but honored by some prestigious awards.
Come due time, cooks, drivers conductors have surpassed physicians in salary alone. So neck surgeons, gynaecologists, encologists are a mainstay of the US like any drivers and mechanics or engineers (just think about the dhotis: every fifth of them may be a doctor etc in the States). I remember Bill Gates being given a bad treat in Europe. Well money-wise he is the richest but who cares!
Being covered by media should not be the only criteria; in fact it should be secondary. Otherwise, a trick would make you be exposed to the media very easily.
I think Samrat Upadhyaya has done something in literature for the whole world to see, (and still I'd personally expect more from him) and it may be about right to name him as a candidate. Another in my list would be the world traveller (Kiran Shah?) on bicycle (that is quite an achievement).
While comparing ourselves among ourselves alone, we should be able to create a standard (at least implicit) which somehow comes closer to the trends followed in the international world. Important things: see what they have done. Take an example: now a days every community in the US has a president. How would you then evaluate a Nepali president: he might be president of a class of two; obviously the other is the vice-president.
In lack of proper investigation, it's, in short, easy to take a "gandh tanneri" in a lato desh as a hero!
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| vivashme |
Posted
on 25-Mar-02 06:50 PM
Agreed. How about Nepalese who are in the US Government or politics? Do you know of anyone holding high level position in a US Federal or State office?
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| yo |
Posted
on 26-Mar-02 12:35 PM
is that lady, kiran chetry from fox news really nepali???
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| don't know |
Posted
on 26-Mar-02 01:35 PM
Not really sure but she doesn't really look like Nepali does she?
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| vivashme |
Posted
on 03-Apr-02 02:53 PM
San, how about featuring some of the people mentioned on this thread?
VivashMe
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| rebelious sevendust |
Posted
on 03-Apr-02 05:24 PM
how about Dr. Upendra Devkota?
he is the leading neuro sergeon in Whole Asia and Europe. he is one of the seven family doctors of british royal family. if you go to anywhere in asia and europe for very complecated brain related sergeory, there is a very good chance that he will be the one who would be performing the sergeory.
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| rebelious sevendust |
Posted
on 03-Apr-02 05:28 PM
And i completely agree with Suman. Also let's not forget great Tenging Sherpa and the other sherpa's who have kept many word records in mountainering.
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| Asiantric |
Posted
on 04-Apr-02 12:54 AM
you know what it's not how much money you make or what kinda degree you have........in our society especially now LEADERS count, people who are making a difference not the people who are making all the money in the world. You can achieve all the degree and prestige but are you doing anything to make a difference?
do you count as a nepali for a positive impact in our society?
Have you done anything to change the way we think, act?
Education is the most important thing for a developing country like ours...so the few people with the degree dun make a country.
We have to change our outlook of things.
As everyone here is coming down on cooks like they are the third degree citizen...wake up. That's why we need a open minded attitude.
Look up the labour department ranking.....a chef is a white collar worker Like a doctor or a engineer.......he makes depending from $100K-$200K.
The way our society is build being a doctor or a engineer and now a software engineer is the big high ranking position with all the respect.....yeah right!
wake up we live in the world today....21st century.
First learn to respect a person but not his positon or his degree then we are making a step forward. Doesn't matter what you are it's worthless unless you do somethihng for the human kind , here it's for the country. So even if you are the highest ranking shit in the white house but you can't be compared to a lowly Nepali who is a volunteer worker in the remote part of Nepal, he is more accomplished Nepali. Because he is not about money or ranking but about the people of Nepal. And we need people like that not some freaking engineer who makes $200k and buys a house and provides for his family, he is just another capitalist society slave.
For a Nepali to be most accomplished he's got to be doing something for the country or for the people of Nepal otherwise your money and degree is worthless.
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| freek |
Posted
on 18-Apr-02 08:03 AM
KIRAN Kshettri is nepali.. well half nepali. Her father is Nepali, and mother, American. Other great nepali's in america.
1. Tenzing tamang: accomplished loader in alaska fish corporation.
2. Ram krishna subedi: bahun ko bachcha is dishwasher for 5 years in an indian restaurant. Makes loads of money, around $1000 a month. eats beef too.
3. trishna tuladhar: Hooker in downtown. makes loads of money, but spends it on crack
4. ravi timilsina: Father was panche minister. son is Limo driver.
5. kancha maharjan: ashon ko jyaaps, has tons of money in kathmandu, he works in laundry, and he is wannabe manager.
6. Tarun K.C.: kshettri ko choro tyo pau chuncha ghin le chudaina, manish thulo dil le huncha jaat le hudaina. still workin' for prestigious jacksonheight dhaba.
7. subash gurung: should i say more???
8. rajesh thapa: well he was great. Dead now. boinked neighbours wife, neighbour shot him right in his hathiyaar.
9. tyson gurung: wanna-be-brit-army. Still living in illusion of "bir nepali". wanted in 3 citites in usa for bar-fight.
10. great Freeek: "Jo kamaya khaaya udadiya, oh darling yeh hain america"
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| vagabond |
Posted
on 18-Apr-02 08:57 AM
I need to recognize the criterias to be accomplished. Except for freek's list, it seems like MDs and media coverage has been the criteria for accomplished. But is that it?? Is that how accomplishments are measured?
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| NK |
Posted
on 18-Apr-02 09:21 AM
I have the same question as Vagabound has. It appears you only need to be a doctor (_BP and Hahooguru's list) to be an "accomplished Nepali." What a joke if not pathetic. Are we setting the bars too low becuase we are garib khana napaune Nepali so having a Ph.D. and a M.D. is a great event for us? Is it enough to have our name on the "Most Accomplished Nepali" List because we got a degree? What are these people's contibution to society? What have they done so far except going to school and getting a Ph.D. and working in the US, Japan, various parts of Europe? I don't see much difference between these people and a dishwasher who is working in a Punjabi Dhaba in Jackson height. All economic migrants and nothing to be ashamed of at the same time nothing to be proud of. It just is.
if that engineer has indeed done something importand in her field then definitely she should be on the list. And yes, I would put Samrat's name on the List. He has given a face, a Nepali face, in the vast sea of innumerable South East Asian writers. Now we are not known only so called Bir Gurkha who used to work for peanuts in the British Army and be grateful, a sherpa porter who is happy to carry our white masters burden, we can write too!
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| garib nepali |
Posted
on 18-Apr-02 11:34 AM
How about managers and president of NGO.
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| cyberpal |
Posted
on 18-Apr-02 12:16 PM
Amen NK
I'm with you on this one. Getting a degree from a good school in whatever field does not really tentamount to being an accomplished Nepali.
Also we should take into account the "hmm... here's an applicant from Nepal how interesting " factor in getting into a good school in the first place.
As a side note, we still seem to harbor medical profession as some sort of devine profession. This is one of my pet peevs so let me rant on it a little more. This is the only profession I know where one peer addresses another with the Dr. title (well maybe also among Ph. D holders too in international organizations).
I was chatting with my cousin kid the other day about this summer vacation plans and guess what he is doing -- visiting this Dr. uncle.
As that guy in 20/20 would say -- give me a break.
Before people slam with banalities let it be known -- i'm not really one of those ER watching doctor wannabes who couldn't be one. All I'm saying is damn it its just another profession.
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| HahooGuru |
Posted
on 18-Apr-02 06:35 PM
NK wrote : What are these people's contibution to society?
We are not their biographers to bring what they have contributed
to the society in detail. Well, when I picked up their name, or
_BP picked their name, we surely judged their work. Unfortunately,
you do not have guts to think things positively, before you start
blasting the posters. Thank you NK for your great words.
My one cent suggestion to you, before you go writing negative
and sarcastic things, you could have tried to understand why
someone had listed those names? Think positively, and Nepalis
have now drained out their part of brain that thinks postive,
all peoples think only negative for every thing. Well, NK you
wrote that you had blend of Int'l ... blend, but, is this taste of Int'l
blend? Then, its like eating Gundruk with Tomato Ketchup.
hGxP
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| kiranfan |
Posted
on 18-Apr-02 06:49 PM
I am gldd Kiran is half Nepali, I was sick of people commenting most nepali chics are short and fat... but hey now I will send that picture of hers to those bastards... and may I finnaly add, ain't she smokinly fine!!..;)but fellas I guess we nepali got no chance to dance wid her. She is prolly dating those sadface white fellas... Oh well just a food for thought..
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| neparu |
Posted
on 18-Apr-02 07:18 PM
test
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| neparujin |
Posted
on 18-Apr-02 07:56 PM
Hahooguru wrote "Think positively, and Nepalis
have now drained out their part of brain that thinks postive, all peoples think only negative for every thing."
I agree and I think why we have only negative opinion:
1. Lets remember how our education-minded parents taught us not to believe anyone (MANCHE LAI BISWASH NAGARNU)
2. Lets re-think what our teachers taught us in school beside compulsory education
3. Lets re-think how we spent our college life (in Nepal) with our so-called friends
4. Lets re-think how many times we got the positive advice from other people in Nepal
5. Lets re-think how many times we gave positive advice to other people beside family members and relatives
6. Lets re-think why we are encouraged and get positive advice from our university teachers (US, JAPAN, AUSTRALIA, EUROPE) and foreign friends
7. Lets re-think why we always have negative thinking
8. Lets re-think why we don't have positive thinking
PS: Sorry for my poor English
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| rebelious sevendust |
Posted
on 18-Apr-02 08:38 PM
hi hahoo guru
it seems to me that all you can do is just make some halla. I don't see where NK is wrong. yeah it is a positive thing to achieve the highest degree in yor field of education but we are talking about the people who earned fame around the globe not jsut in one particular country or city. I hope that you don't think that making a lot of money is an accomplishment. But then we live in a capatilistic society so I can never tell. I guess for people like you carrying a national flag and travelling around the world in a bicycle with a message of peace is not an accomplishment. so please don't be dissuaed from my comment and keep giving priority to money.
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| HahooGuru |
Posted
on 18-Apr-02 08:47 PM
Mr. R,
Did you read the title of my original posting and then, you
will realize that where NK lies. Go read the title. I did not
intrude in this thread, I knew that this thread might not
suit my list, thats why I started a new thread. Well, you
learn to take things positively.
Its not me making HALLA, its you guys making things
worst.
hGxP
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| HahooGuru |
Posted
on 18-Apr-02 08:53 PM
Mr. R.S. wrote
but we are talking about the people who earned fame around the globe not jsut in one particular country or city.
----
Mr. RS, go and read the title of this thread too. This thread is
"Top 10 most accomplished Nepalese in the US ", and remember
"US" is not = World (or Globe). World is very big, Mr. Rebel.
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| NK |
Posted
on 18-Apr-02 09:59 PM
HahooGuru,
I have simply asked what the accomplishments are of these people. Instead of giving some, few - any - ONE FOR GOD'S SAKE! on achievement of these people you went to tell me :
1. I have not international blend, "it is like eating gundruk with ketchup." Could you please explain that in your next comment on my comments. Please be warned that I expect (with due respect) a simple explanation of what you meant by that, not a dissertation about Other Things. What that Other Things might be, I cannot tell.
2. To "think positively." Because I (again) qestioned what The Accomplishments are of these people you went to say and I quote , "Think positively, and Nepalis
have now drained out their part of brain that thinks postive,
all peoples think only negative for every thing."
Kura ra kulolai ja lagey pani huncha. So I won't b e surprised if you take my comments to a completely DIFFERENT direction - an unintended direction and give a lecture on me " How to be positive" "How to be a true Internationalist," and 'How to take words without questioning'.
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| _BP |
Posted
on 18-Apr-02 10:15 PM
This is interesting in that NK is sabotaging this thread much the same way she and others have accused others of "ruining" perfectly good threads because of their apparent insecurities. And I name NK specifically because she is a prominent personality here on Sajha, and well...she wrote what she did.
Being in the medical field, as I stated above, I wanted to bring to the forefront some of the prominent Nepali physicians in the US. In fact I added a disclaimer to the list. By no means is anyone suggesting that doctors are necessarily successful or are the only ones who are successful. There are unsuccessful and unethical doctors. But these people listed are people we can look at and see what is possible. They are perhaps people not well-recognized by the general public because of the specialized nature of their professions. They are well-educated, prosperous, involved in the Nepali-American community, and well-published in their fields. They are not writing fiction for someone's best-seller list and thus not getting widespread general publicity.
It was refreshing to see the lists of Nepali PhD's from people who knew them. So I added my perspective in my field. I was hoping other people in law, art, literature, politics etc would add the names of prominent Nepali people that we should recoqnize. Or perhaps just people who have overcome great odds to get to where they are. This should be a thread of recognition. It would be a lot better than this mindless arguing about the definition of success. I share Hahoo-Guru's indignation at NK's piece and her yes-men. Any talent is admirable, and any hard work is praiseworthy when applied to a good cause. This is a self-evident truth. Why don't we start over and start listing people we think are successful in the US?
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| diwas k |
Posted
on 18-Apr-02 10:31 PM
Wouldn't "Top 10 Accomplish_ers in their professions" better describe the list? Whatever personal accomplishments one has accomplished within their profession would be different than a generalized accomplishment thru contribution to (Nepali?) society, IMHO. _diwas
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| HahooGuru |
Posted
on 19-Apr-02 05:30 AM
NK wrote:
....Hahooguru's list) to be an "accomplished Nepali." What a joke if not pathetic.
----------
I was disappointed to see the start "What a joke if not pathetic." from a well
recognized personality in Sajha.com. As you said that you had experience
of Int'l blend in some other thread. The sentance "What a joke .." surely looked
like "eating gundruk with ketchup", I mean you surely are not that much
negative in real, as you posted here. If you are really so (start with negative
comments), then, the "Int'l blend" is really equivalent to eating gundruk
in Tomato ketchup, and I mean its really hard to understand you in the
developed world where peoples are less sarcastic atleast at the very beginning,
unlike to our Nepali society, where peoples are very negative, sarcastic
and pessimistic at the beginning and finally, they end up with positive thinking.
Well, I wish I was able to tell what I meant. If you are satisfied, I might have
to realize that you wrote those sentance by mistake or NOT with bad
intention (referring your 2nd posting in this thread), but, went to wrong
direction unknowingly.
hGxP
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| Freeek |
Posted
on 19-Apr-02 06:27 AM
About Hohalla's "thinkin' positively" thing!!
Hey, its about you. i think ure one of the nepalese and maybe thats the reason why you think negatively, even when you are preaching about how nepali thinks negatively. i mean to say, your negative remarks on the negativity of nepali people's thinkin' is just because u're one nepali. I think you should start thinkin' positively before you tell someone to think positively. once again, back to the full circle, dispite your tellin' other nepali people to think positively, your remark is fully based on negative side. kinda like that.
but by the way, i am glad that nobody took the name of the politicians or sons and daughters of royal family or politician.
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| NK |
Posted
on 19-Apr-02 07:29 AM
HahooGuru,
I take that line back. I did not realize it would generate such a bad vibe. Sometimes I underestimate the power of words. But, EVERYTHING remains the same. Also as I stated in my last paragraph, if that engineer (I forgot his name and I am too lazy to go to the other thread to get the name) will be on MY list if she/she has some recognized contribution for the society at large. Also Samrat Upadhaya. And I have said why.
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| kiranfan |
Posted
on 19-Apr-02 08:39 AM
Personally, I think you both NK and Hahaguru got some issues... Please reevaluate yourself and don't always think of "win win" situation. So I recommend you guys reading that book "don't sweat small things". If you guys don't spend too much time debating on worhtless crap such as "positive thinking"... May be you Nk or hahaguru might end up in this top ten accomplished list... PEACE.
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| kiranfan |
Posted
on 19-Apr-02 08:55 AM
I take one line back . I didn't mean to say "positive thinking". What I meant to say is spending too much time just debating on the term itself and trying to prove you are right is worthless.
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| def |
Posted
on 19-Apr-02 09:26 AM
Hahoo!
When one posts their own view or thoughts on any open forum, there always will be comments made by fellow posters. Negative as well as positive comments should be taken as a constructive criticism (may be with falame chiura). Once you post a Top Ten list with people full of PHDs and DRs. without any further information on their any other achievements and contribution to society, people here in sajha, have a right to comment on it. We all know that you are not their biographer. All you had to do was add a line or two after each individual about their achievements and contributions that you thought made them worthy of your TOP TEN list. Please don’t ask people to TAKE IT AS IT IS because you said so. So lets hear why these people made your TOP TEN list. It will definitely enlightened me and I am sure many more in Sajha. Please don’t use excuse like “I am not their biographer.”
Keep on Hahooing!
def
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| no kidding |
Posted
on 19-Apr-02 10:00 AM
Amen def!
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| uks |
Posted
on 19-Apr-02 11:36 AM
The more I read this thread, the more convinced I am that NK is right-- in fact she convinced me. I initially thought that PhD and M.D.( good schools,etc...) were all that mattered, but not now. I think their contribution is essential. If these PhD and M.D. are great, you should say how..........
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| NK |
Posted
on 19-Apr-02 12:02 PM
Thank you UKS. One convert! That is not bad. A small step for sajha.com a giant leap for Nepalis!!!!!!
And thank you also to those who saw my point.
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| Comrade Yudh |
Posted
on 19-Apr-02 12:21 PM
I think Comrade Prachanda and Dr. Baburam Ram should be in this list too along with our other Military Strategist. Like Comrade Badal and Comrade Rajesh
jai jana-nepal
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| chintak |
Posted
on 19-Apr-02 04:05 PM
how about a single nepali mother who raises a child alone?
OR
A nepali girl/guy from a village who comes here and makes more than the average income a natural citizen makes?
I think all of the above should be commended as well!!
The time when we just revered doctors has long passed and this forum is an image of that.
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| HahooGuru |
Posted
on 19-Apr-02 07:02 PM
Dear NK,
Thanks for your kindness and I join you in withdrawing the postings
I sent because of appearance of those lines. The following
two postings are virtually withdrawn (virtual meant I can not
delete them from San's server, but, this posting should
virtually purge the earlier statements):
1. Posted on 04-18-02 6:35 PM Reply | Notify Me
2. Posted on 04-19-02 5:30 AM Reply | Notify Me
I regret for the inconvenience caused to public because of those postings.
Thanks for your kind patience (chk. spl.?).
hGxP
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| vivashme |
Posted
on 21-Apr-02 10:40 AM
Dear Sajha friends,
It seems everyone seem to agree that Samrat ji is the most accomplished Nepali in the United States.
The criteria suggested seems to be following:
1. Awards
2. Positive Media Coverage (national and/or international)
3. Level of contribution to his/her field
4. May be (level contribution with respect to Nepalis community in the US or back to Nepal)
Can you think of any other criteria? There must be other people in the US in addition to Samratji who fall into above criteria.
ViVashMe
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| freeek |
Posted
on 21-Apr-02 09:49 PM
who is SAMRAT?
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| vivashme |
Posted
on 21-Apr-02 10:46 PM
Here is more info about Samrat:
http://www.suskera.com/feature/samrat.html
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| FREEEK |
Posted
on 22-Apr-02 07:07 AM
The Most Successful Neapli.... who else? but me. There is no other soul who is more successful than me. I am not going to listen to some other nepali who are bothering themselves to find who is most accomplished Nepali, rather than looking to themself. Don't you think you are successful since the day you came to America? Maybe you made friends, bunch of friends, may be you fell in and outta Love, Yesterday you used to think twice even buying "FRIES", today you bought a pack of marlboro and six pack beer in a snap. May be you are more educated than the day you came to America ,if you go to school. Even if you don't go to school, you might have realized that the Indian's, who we hated the most, came as a life saver when we needed job in the gas station and other things. May be you have learned few new english words everyday and your accent is improving.
I know how much pain i went through in the beginning, and how much i was humilated, how much i was inflicted, how inferority complex i grew up on myself. But, i overcame those shit. Isn't tha my success?? If i was not successful, i would be begging for a penny in some street corner. Atleast i dont' do that. I am successful because even my ability to buy drugs, i never abused it. Isn't that my success? I never misbehaved girls, and didn't bang her when she was drunk. wasn't i successful? I stood on my pride, never let myself down, always believed in RESPECT and HARDWORK, isn't that success? well you dont have to make money to be success. You just have to be successful enuff to make a little bit of money.
The pain ive been thru is mine. And the little relief and succes i get right now is also mine. Why would i wanna share my #1 most accomplished nepali position with anybody else? i am successful than before. and i feel i am the most successful. I don't brag about mine being bravest coz my forefathers were warrior. i fight every minute on my own, and my forefather would not be a shit help when i needed them. I don't feel greatest coz there is mount everest in my country. I still gotta find my Everest. once i find it, i am untouchable.
!!!!
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| blah |
Posted
on 22-Apr-02 08:45 PM
Freek, I agree with you.
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| Vivashme |
Posted
on 05-May-02 08:18 AM
Sounds like they are doing something similar in the ANA convention in DC.
See call for Nominations on the Event section.
http://www.gbnc.org/sajha/html/eventdetail.cfm?eventid=67
-ViVashMe
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| vivashme |
Posted
on 01-Jul-02 05:05 PM
It looks like we will know most accomplished Nepalis in the US at the ANA convention on coming Friday, July 5th. The award ceremony seems to be scheduled from 10:45 AM - 12:15 PM. Here are the URL that can be helpful for planning if you are attending the convention: http://4.21.135.131/ana/page1.asp http://www.ana-home.org
-ViVashMe
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