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| Sudhakar |
Posted
on 11-Jun-01 10:23 AM
The present belief of the public to support this argument is as follows; however, no any international news is covering this version of public thinking.
1. On friday he was at fresh and exciting mood while he visited the sports complex at Satdobato till 5:00 PM. He has encouraged the officials for the good work, and promised to come the next day 2 hour before the oficial time.No body has feeled any kind of stress and abnormality at that evening with Deependra.
2. The firing is done so severely that, the body of queen is divided to 2 piece. Her face and head was completely damaged. So there was mask instead of her face and head. Nirajan is believed to have 30 to 40 bullets while trying to save his father king birendra. The bullet is shot at central front pallet (nidhar ko tika lagaune thau najikai) to king Birendra, and almost other member's head. This indicate the shooter is professional sharp shooter.
3. The number of bullet fired is in such a huge quantity, that a single person can not solely fire so many bullet in such a short period where no other guards could protect that incident.
4. Deependra has several bullets (around 30) on his backside, some
penetrating his liver and lung, rather than his head (where suisider is believed to shot self). People think, Deependra tried to escape from the incident but finally attacked to sever injury.
5. The body of Shanti Singh was found on garden rather than the dinner room, so there may be chances of killing running after them who tried to escape.
6. Deependra has left the dinner room around 7:30, when he came back around 9:30, all other were killed already, he tried to escape, but he was shot dead. That is why he has many bullets on his back.
7. Dhirendra is not holding the royal post. In that evening, even
Dhirendra (who is declared dead yesterday) was attending the dinner, why Gyanendra was abscent?
8. The first person to come out from the palace after the incident was Paras, who also attended the dinner, but has no single hurt, how that happened?
9. In the beginning, Paras was said staying out of country, but later, not attending the dinner but in Soaltee Casino, some said not in Soaltee, but in Babylone Discotheque, later confirmed to be present in the dinner. Why so many different information circulated?
10. In that evening, 10 cooks and several other Royal worker were serving the dinner program, where they have gone? No single cook has returned to their home, neither they had made telephone call to there family members.
11. Several famous doctors, including Dr. Upendra Devkota, were taken to Chauni Barek, but they are not making any communication to family members. Are the doctors also in danger of another round of massacre?
12. Several Royal army official has not come to home since friday and has not informed to their families. If the families make inquiries, then the reply is that, they are send to foreign countries for treatement. Now the family members are worrying about the masacre of these army officials too, including ADCs of dead Royal members.
13. One helicopter has fled from Palace on friday night around 10:30 PM straight very high and then went to unknown direction with all light off. The people had seen and heard the sound of that, where that helicopter has gone, and who was inside that?
14. Several public people has heard about the incident around 10:00 - 10:30 PM of friday night, but the prime-minister Girija was informed about this only at 1:30 AM (some 4 - 5 hours later than the accident), why?
15. No postmartem was conducted on the dead royal bodies, why? The government had taken VICERA for investigation, while Madan Bhandari was dead. Why they did not do this for king and his family?
16. Why funeral process is conducted immediately, they poured water from tanker to flow cleaner water in Bagmati, and the structures were made temporarily.
17. Even the dead bodies were not handled with respect. There was no body to remove flies on the face of king. The dead body were kept on open ground without any arrangement. Whereas, the dead body of Babuchiri Sherpa was well protected and kept open for public respect for 5 days.
18. Why none of the foreign state heads and their representatives were allowed to take part? Even the notice for the higher governmental officers were issued very stupidly. The notice to attend at 3:00 PM the funeral spot with specified dresses was issued only at 3:10. Is is possible to reach at the spot at 3:00 hearing the notice at 3:10? Has every higher officers prepared the funeral dresses before the notice? otherwise how they could reach to the funeral spot immediately with specified dress?
19. Why the number of bullets were not allowed to count from the dead bodies of royal members?
20. Royal members are engaged with more than one women since long ahead, and that is not assumed as a critical issue. They can keep many wives in the form of Lyaite, byaite etc. So one external women can not be cause to death of dozens of very very important members of family and nation.
21. None of nepali has heard the fantastic story of love affairs of Deependra,but now the famous news agencies are trying to blame Divyani Rana as the cause of Royal members' masacre. Who has thought about her personal life afterward?
22. Why Dr. Rajeeb Shahi and Helen Shah are silent on these issue? It is heard that army official denied to conduct investigation, when senior police officer has proposed for that on Satureday, why?
23. Why all the international news agencies are displaying the photograph of mustachioed Deependra (with his darhi), to make an impression of bad person?
24. On the funeral of Birendra and Aisworya, Paras was not quite. His hand,foot, mouth was moving in some special ways, and many people has tried to describe ideas in his brain at that moment. Can someone behave in such a way,while his almost all family members were murdered? Can a person, who has seen the live death of several family members, with flow of blood from the all parts of body in a single room and their pain, grief movement etc, stand in such a smily and fresh manner to the public?
25. Deependra had not taken alcohol on friday evening. He never takes alcohol when he joins the dinner program with his father. He is well-known for his super respect to his father. How such person can kill his parents? These all questions and information may be useful to understand Deependra is not the killer.
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| work |
Posted
on 11-Jun-01 11:38 AM
Almost 300 workers are impriosoned inside the royal palace.
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| Biswo |
Posted
on 11-Jun-01 11:54 AM
Dear all:
Please don't write rumours. If you are not quite sure about what
you are writing, don't write at all. Because misrepresentation of
facts only makes us confused.
For example, how you guys know that the prince was killed in garden and there were this much/that much bullets in the king's
body, while we all know such info are very difficult to get. Also,
it is not quite sure how one knows there are workers imprisoned.
What you wrote may be true, but it is only confusing me.
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| sparsha |
Posted
on 11-Jun-01 12:51 PM
What Sudhakar posted may be worth considering. Do I know what happened that fateful evening at the palace? No, I don't. Do I beleive "Dipendra is the killer" theory? I am not quite sure. Do I think Paras did it? No, I am not sure about that either. Until proven otherwise Paras is innocent (to me) for now. I am quite convinced that we will probably never know what exactly happened that day. Palace source is not going to release every details on that incident. (NOT ACCIDENT). I am having hard time in beleiving what those eyewitnesses are saying. They are talking the samething - DIPENDRA OPENED FIRE- but chain of events break from one to other.
Few weeks back, I did watch a TV program on eyewitnesses. I think it was a real event arranged for to be FBI agents. The scenario (those to be agents didn't know at that time that the scenario is framed) was like this: An instructor is running a class full of to be FBI agents. Suddenly, a guy enters the classrom takes instructor's purse and runs out. Now, everybody is stunned. The incident took place right in front of them in a well lit class room. The instructor utters something like this "it happened so fast, I don't remember a thing
about that guy except his odd nose". So, later all the eyewitnesses were interviewed to explain the incident. Rarerly, ANYONE gave the exact description of the intruder. They were wrong on his height, weight, complexion, clothes..etc. Many of them said they noticed his (intruder's) odd nose.
Later, it was revealed to them that the incident was framed and the real person was introduced to them. They were amazed to see how wrong they were. About his nose..there was nothing odd. so, where did they came up with odd nose description? planted by the casual utterance of words by the instructor. The point: eyewitnesses are not always reliable. Other facts, as well, need to be examined thoroughly.
What other facts we got? no postmortom, bodies are gone, scene is getting old...scared eyewitnesses. Do we know what kind of crime scene specialists with what sort of credentials are involved?
There is a big room to doubt... wheather what we are told is the truth. It may very well be, but what if?... if it is not?
sparsha
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| cc |
Posted
on 12-Jun-01 01:28 PM
Please think rationally and don't be a victim of this stupid propaganda. I believe it was started by someone with vested interest. To start with, his English is terrible. Why didn't he try writing in Nepali instead? Also, there is no reason not believe that what we are being told is the truth. I believe Dipendra did slaughter his parents and other members of the royal family, and he did it in a fit of drunken rage (for whatever reasons that may be).
A crazy man shoots down a dozen children in a high school in Britain, and we believe it without questioning.
A boy shoots down a dozen children in a high school in America, and we believe it without questioning.
A man kills 8 children with a knife in a primary school in Japan, and we believe it without questioning.
A serial killer kills many people over a period of time, and we believe it without questioning.
A bodyguard sprays bullets into Indira Gandhi, and we believe it without questioning.
Timothy McVeigh blew up a building and 168 people along with it, and we believed it without questioning.
But when it comes to events in our own country, we see a conspiracy around every corner, behind every door and below every window. For us, there's an ulterior motive behind every word, and a hidden agenda behind every action. Isn't this proof enough of a population in acute, incurable paranoia? Please, let us learn to accept the facts when they are presented and corroborated by many different sources.
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| cc |
Posted
on 12-Jun-01 01:29 PM
The language portion is not meant to be there. Sorry.
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| sally |
Posted
on 12-Jun-01 03:09 PM
John F Kennedy gets shot and we ... well, we're still questioning that one.
Two kids massacre their classmates at Columbine High School and we ... have months and months of inquiries to make sure there weren't others involved.
Timothy McVeigh blew up a building and 168 people along with it, and we believed it ... after extensive investigation, a long court trial and confessions ... and THEN when it turned out the FBI had withheld evidence we questioned if, perhaps, there might be another conspirator whose identity has not been uncovered.
Questioning is entirely reasonable, CC. Especially in this case, and especially in the historic context of Nepal. Sadly, even if the witnesses are telling the whole truth and nothing but the truth, the way the govt has managed both the investigation and the release of information will continue to fuel rumors. Probably forever.
What if Genna Bush had come into the White House and, in a drunken fit, sprayed everyone with machine gun fire? Do you think there would be no questioning and no second-guessing? And do you think if the bodies had been instantly cremated, without adequate forensic information, etc, there would have been no conspiracy theories?
The key to getting rid of rumors is information and open communication. I found some of the stuff listed above interesting, but without any source for info such as Dipendra having some 30 bullet wounds on his back, it can't be accepted as credible. It doesn't bother me that he posted it, though. And I think posters on this site have been pretty conscientious, under the circumstances, about not spreading rumors.
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| whoever |
Posted
on 12-Jun-01 04:56 PM
One major difference between the cases you site and this one is that this one involves POWER and POLITICS. Look at the JFK story, one which involved power and politics. That has a lot of conspiracy theories.
Also, the fact that CP Dipendra was the one who lost the most (he was next in line for the crown) and is now blamed for the assasinations and the fact that King Gyanendra came out and said it was an "accident" help ignite conspiracy theories.
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