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       Dear Ashu: The point is not whether t 12-Jun-01 Biswo
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           Dear Ashu: I understand your point. 13-Jun-01 Biswo


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Biswo Posted on 11-Jun-01 04:15 PM

As the life limps back to normalcy,Nepalese are getting more chance to retrospect at themselves, and at the enormous catharsis
that the jolting political upheaval symbolized for.

At the same time, the mendicants in the street are happy that
they are getting people with open hands again. The dirt is again
strewn in the street, and the maverick calves again roam the Asan
bazaar with the impregnable self-confidence.Affluent Kathmanduites
know that the chaos in KTM forces the price high due to lack of
supply, yet they can afford that.

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It is time we think about our ability of crisis management. The
inept,corrupt and immensely unpopular govt managed the crisis
clumsily. I don't know if those top brass in army who were
responsible for king's security are going to be fired or not.
The vaunted three-tier security ring around the king was not
capable of saving king and his entire family. In the cold blooded
murder, the royal family was slained like the weak characters of
John Wayne westerns.A lot of our posters here are not such
pro-monarch, but there are at least fifty percent of nepalese
population who are crying relentlessly since the murder day, and
they are forlorn, restive and demanding the explanation of all
these things.

I don't know if the new king will celebrate his brithday on this
July 7th or not. Anyway, he can give us a good birthday present
by providing some transparency about what goes inside those
daunting fortified walls.Monarchy may not be in threat rightnow,
esp as the pledge of allegiance from all the nook and corners of
political atrium has started pouring in now, but it surely is
crumbling. And it is getting undermined with the presence of
prince like Paras. I don't think Paras is going to king, but hey,
we already have this Navayuvarajadhiraja (the eldest grandson of
the king is formally said that, I guess) from him, and so this
line of succession is pretty strong already.

Btw, I heard madame Himani used to live in KTM. Did any body here
know about her? I'm curious if she can speak Nepali language. When
Bir Shamsher became Sri 3 king, Sri 3 queen wasn't a good
Nepali speaker. May be we are having another Sri 3 Bir in the
palace.

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There was this creepy character called Amar Gurung, when Pravin
Gurung was killed by Paras. By all account, this man sounded like
the one who entertained all the whim of the prince. He persuaded
Shanti Gurung to issue that infamous absolve of the royal culprit
in the hit-and-run murder of her husband.

Jang Bdr Rana was a character who leeched the national blood and
civil freedom by entertaining the weak, depraved and capricious
king/prince. We may be having other Janges in the future, who
knows.

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One of the most unfathomable thing in KTM media group is : why the
hell Kamana Group started publishing these newspapers? Wasn't
Kamana and Sadhana enough for them?

I think of one answer: they are modelled after gossip tabloids of
Britains. That Puskar Lal Shrestha is not a good writer, and that
these other brands of journalists there never wrote a worthy
editorial in their life is noteworthy. I was in KTM when Mahanagar
was just starting to publish. And, man, It was having brisque
business with its senseless headlines, and simple(?) mindless
reporting.

So, this time, when Kantipur journalists were apprehended, one
of their newspapers indirectly put the blame on fellow journalists
by implying that they were irresponsible in publishing Dr
Bhattarai's article. All those ludicrious pretexts given by
the minister of Girija was repeated there.

Boy, you need to have guts to publish Baburam's article in KTM,
not to oppose them.

Puskarji of Kamana group is all dressed up in his impotent,
anbd opportunistic brand of journalism to go nowhere . Sabailai
Chetana Bhaya.. (last sentence: credit Prithvi Narayna Shaha
from Divyopadesh)
ashu Posted on 12-Jun-01 04:30 AM

Biswo wrote:

>One of the most unfathomable thing in KTM
>media group is : why the
>hell Kamana Group started publishing these
>newspapers? Wasn't
>Kamana and Sadhana enough for them?


As long as Kamana Group finds its own investors and
uses its own money to publish its newspapers (and it
seems to be doing just that!) I, as a reader, have
no complaints.

Why?

Because as a reader, I reserve the option to read or NOT
read their stuff. I'm sure other readers too are intelligent
enough to decide what's what for themselves. If they like
Pushkar Shrestha's stuff, then, that's fine too.


>I think of one answer: they are modelled
>after gossip tabloids of
>Britains. That Puskar Lal Shrestha is not a
>good writer, and that
>these other brands of journalists there
>never wrote a worthy
>editorial in their life is noteworthy.


I don't know about that. But I do know that
Aja ko Samachar Patra (which Pushkar edits) was one
of two major dailies (the other being Space Time Daily)
to break the news of the recent Durbar Hatya-Kaanda.

>Boy, you need to have guts to publish
>Baburam's article in KTM,
>not to oppose them.

Kantipur's journalists should be supported NOT for their
bravery, but for trying to do their job well: That is,
providing a platform for all kinds of thoughts to come to
the fore, whether the editors agreed with those thoughts
or not.


>Puskarji of Kamana group is all dressed up
>in his impotent,
>anbd opportunistic brand of journalism to go
>nowhere . Sabailai
>Chetana Bhaya.. (last sentence: credit
>Prithvi Narayna Shaha
>from Divyopadesh)


Thankfully, there IS room for "opportunistic brand of
journalism" in Nepal just as there is also room for not-so-opportunistic brand of journalism.

Long live this diversity of journalism in Nepal.

oohi
ashu
Biswo Posted on 12-Jun-01 05:53 PM

Dear Ashu:

The point is not whether they are free or not to do their work,
the point is I don't understand what they are doing. Of course,
Kamanas are free to do whatever they want to do as long as it is
allowed by constitution.

Now, look what they are doing this time. I don't read the papers
regularly, but when I read last time, they were demanding that
the journalists from neighboring India be persecuted for reporting
without permission, and spreading 'bad' news about king Gyanendra
and late king 'Dipendra'. I consider this report provocative,
because I don't think the 'armless' journalists from India should
be dealt that way. Their comment about Kantipur journalists was
also detestable.

Whenever something happens, they come up with sensational gossipi
headlines that stinks,man. I tell you one of my experience, Ashu,
when I was in KTM last time. It becomes unbearable to listen
to the hawkers of these publications when you are standing in
Ratna Park. In their grating sound, they would bowl:

"Logne dwara premikaa ko laagi Swasni ko hatyaa.."

"Dhading maa paanch jaanaa thaharai.."

Even when I don't blame them for publishing those headlines, they
give me sense that romanticizing every event is their way of
journalism. It was fine in Kaamanaa monthly, but it sucks to
read or listen to those headlines/news comments daily.

Having said that, I again repeat that I have no problem with the
journals being published.Just as they are free to write the way
they want, I am also free to express what I think about them. Take
this as that way.



>Kantipur's journalists should be supported NOT for their
>bravery, but for trying to do their job well: That is,
>providing a platform for all kinds of thoughts to come to
>the fore, whether the editors agreed with those thoughts
>or not.

Oh, I think they should be supported for having guts also. In
Nepal, a lot of journalists are too weak to express anything
that may not sound too good to the establishment/royals.
ashu Posted on 13-Jun-01 09:13 AM

Biswo wrote:

>The point is not whether they are free or
>not to do their work,
>the point is I don't understand what they
>are doing.


Fine.

But your not understanding them does not make them
any less of a player in the media-market in Nepal.

For example: While in the US, I never understood the
obvious popularity of tabloids such as 'The National
Inquirer' and the rest.

But I accepted that there ARE indeed millions of regular
readers of those tabloids (and that I was not one of them!),
and that those readers have every right to spend their own
money to read those tabloids, and that it was NOT fair to judge the ENTIRE terrain of American journalism only from the
perspective of The National Inquirer and other such
publications.

I wonder whether similar reasoning could work in the Kamana
case too.

>Kamanas are free to do whatever they want to
>do as long as it is
>allowed by constitution.

Precisely.

>Now, look what they are doing this time. I
>don't read the papers
>regularly, but when I read last time, they
>were demanding that
>the journalists from neighboring India be
>persecuted for reporting
>without permission, and spreading 'bad' news
>about king Gyanendra
>and late king 'Dipendra'. I consider this
>report provocative,
>because I don't think the 'armless'
>journalists from India should
>be dealt that way. Their comment about
>Kantipur journalists was
>also detestable.


Fine.

If you are so provoked, then write a letter to the
editor or publish an article . . . you well know that
these are all legitimate forms of protests or ways to
get your ideas across.


>Whenever something happens, they come up
>with sensational gossipi
>headlines that stinks,man. I tell you one of
>my experience, Ashu,
>when I was in KTM last time. It becomes
>unbearable to listen
>to the hawkers of these publications when
>you are standing in
>Ratna Park. In their grating sound, they
>would bowl:
>
>"Logne dwara premikaa ko laagi Swasni ko
>hatyaa.."
>
>"Dhading maa paanch jaanaa thaharai.."


Obviously, you have yet to read the headlines that
blare out of any issue of The National Inquirer :-)


>Having said that, I again repeat that I have
>no problem with the
>journals being published.Just as they are
>free to write the way
>they want, I am also free to express what I
>think about them. Take
>this as that way.

Fine.

oohi
ashu
Biswo Posted on 13-Jun-01 03:30 PM

Dear Ashu:

I understand your point.

Again, I am not questioning the right of Kamana people.I'm just
tired of their reporting.I don't know how seriously they are taken
in KTM's academia but I am really unsatisfied with them.

> For example: While in the US, I never understood the
> obvious popularity of tabloids such as 'The National Inquirer'
> and the rest.

>But I accepted that there ARE indeed millions of regular
>readers of those tabloids (and that I was not one of them!),
>and that those readers have every right to spend their own
>money to read those tabloids, and that it was NOT fair to judge
>the ENTIRE terrain of American journalism only from the
>perspective of The National Inquirer and other such publications.

> I wonder whether similar reasoning could work in the Kamana
> case too.

In USA,in fact,you cant' just avoid the glaring headlines of those
papers. Here, in south, they peep at every consumer from the
paying counter of Walmart. Their inescapable headlines have made
me crazy a lot of times.I never bought those papers, and like you,
I also wondered about their customers.

However, one day , my one relative who was a PhD candidate in one
prestigeous university,confessed me he once bought the national
enquirer."I just wanted to know what the hell they write inside
and whether those headlines are really baseless.." was his
reaction.