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| villain | Posted
on 14-Apr-03 11:14 AM
I personally thought yesterday's party was a success, despite the shortage of food (not complaining). But I have one question to all of you who attended the party- I had a really really upset stomach this morning, and last night as well. I am wondering if it is only me or others too, who experienced the same problem. Please speak up! |
| Biruwa | Posted
on 14-Apr-03 11:19 AM
Hey villian, may be it is because of the 24 hour empty stomach prior to the Party that u'r pet is complaining. |
| Rusty | Posted
on 14-Apr-03 11:20 AM
That's true villian. I just had an opportunity to eat the appetizers, and I am still having upset stomach. Thanks God! The food was already finished before I got hungry:) However, I had enjoyed our small sajha get together:) San ko camera ko angle kunai miss bhaye jasto chaina...LOL. Nice pics tho... |
| Tundikhel | Posted
on 14-Apr-03 12:56 PM
You have to be kidding me.... Spent $20, No chair to sit, No food to eat. $5.50+tips a beer this is good ? For $20 all I got was a slice of Pizza(they kept saying there is plenty o food do not rush...I guess they lied). This was probably one of the worst performance by GBNC by faar(compare to past couple of yrs). |
| GBNC-President | Posted
on 14-Apr-03 02:12 PM
Dear GBNC members, Some people have called us and brought to our attention a suspected food poisoning case as a result of having food from yesterday's "Baisakhi Saanjh" event. The most common symptom we have heard is a diarrhea. Several of the GBNC executive members including myself have suffered from the suspected food poisoning. Our initial sampling of the reports we have received have narrowed the culprit food to "chicken chhoila" which was served as an appetizer. Those we had just the main course dinner or the appetizers without "chicken chhoila" do not seem to have got the symptoms. I want to assure you that GBNC takes this matter very seriously and we are actively investigating it. GBNC does not compromise when it comes to food hygiene. We are already in contact with the restaurant which catered all the food for the event. If necessary, we may also call the health department and report the case. Please help us by letting us know if you are a victim of this suspected food poisoning case. We like to call and contact all of you but that may not be possible to do quickly because of a limited number of resources. Please call us at 781 274 9122, leave a message if you get voicemail or write to me at president@gbnc.org . Please make sure you tell us what food you had and the symptoms you have/had. We regret that this suspected food poisoning case has happened and we are actively investigating it. Thank you, Pradeep Paudyal President, GBNC 2002/2003 |
| Junu | Posted
on 14-Apr-03 02:46 PM
I got really sick from the food. I had some American guests with me . They had the same problem as well. I had to go to New york for the United Nation conference this, I couldn't go. I went to hopital. I don't know who is responsible for that. |
| shirish | Posted
on 14-Apr-03 03:25 PM
We also experienced similar situation. Our daughter who did not eat that "choyela" had no problem. If needed, to strengthen the case against the restaurent that supplied the food, we are willing to provide with the STOOL SAMPLE, as I anticipate the situation will continue for couple of days if untreated. The chicken choila was vary soft to eat. The softness is the results of the breakdown of the muscle fibres by the enzymes of the spices used; especially the ginger. Longer the period of exposure of enzymes, the more breakdown of the muscle fibres. This could have been the outcome: the NARAM yet killer choila. The process is enhanced when the heat is used.I strongly suspect that they made the choila earlier night and stored it at the room temperature without refrigerating. CHICKEN is a very good media for the microorganisms to thrive. The uncooked or semi cooked chicken is even more dangerous. This might have been the case. If you want my STOOL SAMPLE, i will wait and will not see a doctor immediately. It sounds silly though to risk our lives to present with a proof of probably salmonella. President jyu, let me know quickly hai, what to do before I die (that will be another jhamela, for there is a proof here now.) Balla balla lekhna sakiyo. |
| Rama | Posted
on 14-Apr-03 05:39 PM
Dear GBNC, We also experienced the same problem. All of the members of our family have diarrhea. We couldn't go to work or school. This is so bad. Some people who traveled to Boston had a very big problem. GBNC never had this problem before...We don't know who is responsible for it. But I think next time we need to be very careful and maybe test the food before being served. I know 12 people who are very sick and couldn't go to their work or school. Everyone had the same problem!!!! Thank You. |
| Arnico | Posted
on 14-Apr-03 07:57 PM
I assume all of you who are posting here have also written to the president directly as he asked for. I just wanted to add that my wife who ate the chicken was sick this morning as well... but is now better again this evening, and was able to enjoy dinner. Hope it lasts, as she has an international flight to catch tomorrow morning. To everyone who is sick... hope you feel better soon! PS - I did not have the chicken, and am fine... |
| ashu | Posted
on 15-Apr-03 05:15 AM
I must say that I am impressed with the response of the GBNC president. His response is prompt and out in the open for all to see. His answer appears to be quite straightforward. He does not sound defensive. He has blamed no one. He has communicated his and his committee's concerns and regret quite well. He has asked for help from all. He has vowed to do an investigation ASAP. He has expressed just the level of organizational seriousness that this mishap warrants. All I can say is: Way to go!! oohi "90 per cent of leadership is just showing that you really care" ashu ktm,nepal |
| Arnico | Posted
on 15-Apr-03 06:11 AM
Ashu, I agree totally. |
| Biruwa | Posted
on 15-Apr-03 07:06 AM
Ok, So this is a mass episode and not a single incident. I hope GBNC will take appropriate action and set an example for a better future gathering. |
| MainBatti | Posted
on 15-Apr-03 10:05 AM
>>Several of the GBNC executive members including myself have suffered from the suspected food poisoning. Excomm members suffering from Diarrhea--Sad but interesting. ---------- Ashu's "commentary" is nice, too. Btw, Ashu, what is "He" doing at this second? :) ---------- Moral of the story: Appearances can not be trusted completely (Chhoela looks good from outside, but has a disastrous effects once it gets into your alimentary canal)! MainBatti, Director Bostonians Liberation (from Diarrhea) Army. |
| sphinx | Posted
on 15-Apr-03 11:01 AM
Gentlewomen and Gentlemen: I whole-heartedly agree with what Ashu has to say: "90 per cent of leadership is just pretending that you really care" and everybody goes home happy! ;) |
| nuts | Posted
on 15-Apr-03 11:10 AM
pretending? is this an appropriate issue to pour sarcasm? Assuming I am not too serious. |
| sphinx | Posted
on 15-Apr-03 11:16 AM
humor/sarcasm always look for an "inopportune" time. Or else irony will lose its meaning AND, this will be a humorless/sarcasmless dud of a place. Well, you might like that, but I don't and won't. I guess if it was upto you, you will ban '6 ft. under' too right? Since they make fun of death and dying and (living, and that includes you too). |
| GBNC-President | Posted
on 15-Apr-03 12:43 PM
Please give me some time before I come with a statement. I have been working on this matter since yesterday morning when I was made aware that there was a suspected food poisoning case. I am not "pretending" like I care, I do care . thank you, Pradeep Paudyal President, GBNC 2002/2003 PS Thank you Ashu dai and Arniko dai for your encouraging comments. |
| khimu | Posted
on 15-Apr-03 01:51 PM
kaha bata yo president sajha ma time pass garna ayeko ta yo ta ati nai bhayo ni yaar! anyway, we are glad to have you here in SAJHA |
| MainBatti | Posted
on 15-Apr-03 05:05 PM
KhiMU-JI, I thought you only posted huge pictures! You write comments, too? :) ----------- GBNC-President, Take your time (not that you wont if I told otherwise); are you writing the Code of Conduct of something? :) Glad to know that you Care. "Ashu dai" probably meant that most of the time the leadership only pretends, but this time it was real. ----------- Sphinx, Not being picky or anything, but "inopportune" means "not timely", so you can get rid of that extra word "time". They call it redundancy. No offense; life is a learning process (also a suffering process if you ate that mysterious kaalo-padartha-type Choela). MainBatti, Diarrhea Relief Aayog |
| ashu | Posted
on 15-Apr-03 07:15 PM
Mainbatti et al, I NEVER used the word "pretending". Go back and check my posting above. I am not asking you guys to agree with me. Since I use my real identity and stand behind my words, the least you can do, in the interest of fair play on Sajha, is at least copy and paste my sentences accurately, even when you disagree with me. Is that too much to ask? If it is, then, allow me to accurately copy and paste my sentence, again for your reading pleasure: "90 per cent of leadership is just showing that you really care" ******** Incidentally, I got that phrase or something close to it out of the book "Leadership" by former New York Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani whose own prompt and ubiquitous showing of care in the aftermath of 9/11 made him such a big hero. Finally, as someone who's tired of dealing with bullshit and defensiveness on the part of Nepali community leaders when things go wrong, I was/am impressed with the promptness, and the straightforwardness that Pradip and his committee openly brought forth to tackle this matter related to food poison. We all make mistakes all the time. And that's life. How we handle our mistakes is a lot more important than what mistakes we commit. It is in this context, I, as an observer, am giving credit where it's due, even when I have nothing to gain by buttering GBNC up. oohi "Isn't Mainbatt a new avatar of an old Sajha hand?" ashu ktm,nepal |
| Dilasha | Posted
on 15-Apr-03 08:10 PM
Food poisioning? awwww!! that's too bad, sorry to hear that guys. well i hope you all get well soon. And it's nice of the GBNC committee to not only organize the event but also to look beyond matters and show that they care. I commend the spirit of the organization. And Ashutosh, about Mainbatti, didn't you figure that outt??? Oh I got the clue way back. He reminds me of a very famous "hasti" who "machaaying the tahalka" long time back. ahmmm..... where's my magic pen?? ;-) |
| MainBatti | Posted
on 15-Apr-03 10:40 PM
>>Mainbatti et al, >>I NEVER used the word "pretending". Ashu, Since you explicitly addressed me, I respond. I never *quoted* you as using the word "pretending". But "just showing" ALSO means "pretending", doesn't it? What you meant by the sentence "90 per cent of leadership is just showing that you really care", bhagbaan jaanun. People interpreted your words differently. Some saw sarcasm, some didn't. Some misquoted and they made a mistake! Although food poisoning--and not our side guff--is the real issue here, I would appreciate if you could clarify whether you were being sarcastic or not when you wrote that sentence. This I hope will help me understand better what you write in the future. You broke our mare-pachhi-padwi-dine culture and you gave credit where it was due ON TIME and I liked that. No one is saying you are "buttering up" GBNC for your personal gain, khukuri nachaaunu bhandaa paile nai khutaa nahallaunush na! :) -------------------- Dilasha, No more hints hai, please. :) Now I am almost a Programar. It was a long and tedious journey from the world of ----- to the world of programmers. Will tell the story someday (of course, only if you do not reveal everything and "dubaawosh" me right away). In a mood to do kichkich even at 1:33am, MainBatti |
| ashu | Posted
on 16-Apr-03 01:16 AM
Mainbatti wrote: "I would appreciate if you could clarify whether you were being sarcastic or not when you wrote that sentence." [EXACT QUOTE] So that you can whole-heartedly appreciate, here is Ashutosh Tiwari's clarification: Impressed with Pradeep's first posting, I wrote what I wrote above, complimenting him and his team -- in all sincerity and thus was NOT "being sarcastic" [EXACT QUOTE] at all. On a larger note, can a Nepali not give a sincere compliment to another Nepali in a public forum for a job well handled, without being the former's motives questioned and without his being attributed words that he did not use? I hope this clarification helps "[you] understand better what [I] write in the future". [EXACT QUOTE]. oohi "giving credit where it's due, and giving hell where it's necessary :-)" ashu ktm,nepal |
| saroj | Posted
on 16-Apr-03 07:18 AM
Before we get side tracked into a different topic, let's keep the initial topic in mind. It might be good to try to find out a cause for this. At another picnic couple of years ago, chicken choela was thought to be the culprit of mass dysentry as well. The GBNC President seems to think that too. I had heard after that former incident that chicken choela is a risky entry at any parties since it gets mixed by hand. After it gets mixed by hand, it needs to be kept refrigerated. Even if it is left at room temperature for more than one hour, it could get contaminated. During the picnic I mentioned above, the choela was made in the morning and transported in a car so it was not refrigerated for more than 3 hours. I do not know if the chicken choela in the GBNC party was kept refrigerated the whole time after it was mixed by hand or not. If it was not refrigerated for more than 2 hours period, chances of it getting bad are high. If any of you have made the meat mix for momo and left it out in the open for more than 2 hours, they you can't miss the 'odour' the meat mix gives. And this might very well have been the case in hand. The GBNC President is to be lauded for caring and trying to make a good decision. |
| GBNC-President | Posted
on 16-Apr-03 10:12 AM
Dear Baiskahi Saanjh event attenders, I am writing this to follow up on the suspected food poisoning incident from the Baisakhi Saanjh. The appetizers and the main course dinner for the evening was catered to us by a restaurant located at 196 East Main Street, Quarry Square in Milford, MA called "Taste Of India". Kum Gurung, a fellow Nepalese, is the co-owner and the chef of the restaurant. He can be reached at 508 634 9400. He had made "chicken chhoila" and other Nepali appetizers on our special request as they are not part of the restaurant menu. We voiced our complaint to Kum Gurung about the incident. He has deeply regretted the incident and apologized to all the attenders if the food catered by the restaurant, which is the prime suspect, made many of us sick. He has also agreed to reimburse all the food expenses back to GBNC. The scanned copy of his letter written in Nepali which was faxed to us can be read at http://www.gbnc.org/sajha/html/images/restaurant_apology.gif . We know that nothing can compensate the sickness and the suffering that many of you have gone through. We, however, like to use the reimbursed amount to compensate you in some way during one or more future events like Nepali movies shows, summer barbecue or Dashain Party. In other words, the ticket price of one or more future events will either be free or reduced. We will keep you posted on this. I also followed up with the victims of the suspected food poisoning case who called or wrote to us. The good news is all the people who responded to my follow-up call/email have already recovered or are getting better now. I myself have already recovered from it. We deeply regret what happened. During the remainder of my tenure, GBNC will not order any food from "Taste of India" restaurant located in Milford, MA. We will try our best to make sure such incidents do not get repeated in the future. We sincerely hope that this incidence will not keep the community from attending future events. We are grateful to all of you for having come to the program. Please continue to be a part of our community and strengthen it by supporting it through good times and bad times. We will continue to work very hard to bring you outstanding programs in the future despite our limited resources. We are always open to hear your suggestions and comments. Pradeep Paudyal President, GBNC 2002/2003 781 274 9122 |
| Deep | Posted
on 16-Apr-03 10:36 AM
"......Since I use my real identity and stand behind my words...." Yo dailok pani hindi cinema ko "me tumhari bachche ki ma banne wali hunh" jattikai bhaisakyo....yo sajha ma.... Hamlai thahai chha ni - malai ta pakka tha chha la ramo ram!-Ashu dai, you use your real identity and stand behind your words kalbhairab hanuman dhoka ma ubhya jasto garera.... eutai dailok bhani rahyo bhane feri "ghisa pita" bhanlan ke! Aba feri matira aailagne haina hai dai... |
| Deep | Posted
on 16-Apr-03 10:46 AM
Pradeep ji ko prompt response chahi mannu parchha la. I wish speedy recovery to all who were sick. Mainbatti le p ko tham ma b rakhya chha....achel ko fashion rey...p kahile kahi "decent" nasunina ni sakchha...b is much safer than p....b bhaneko je bhaye ni fulko rasma ghumne aba p bhaneko....karan khassai yahi ho bhanera ta kitan garna mildaina tara malai lagya kuro samma lekheko huh...aage MainBatti ko jo marji.. tyasaile antya ma yo naya nam "MainBatti" nai purano nam bhanda ramro ra sandharvik pani chha bhandai mero dui sabda yahi tungyauchhu.... jay Main jay Batti... |
| Nepali Kanchi | Posted
on 16-Apr-03 02:39 PM
Yesto kura haru ta kahile kahile bhaihanchan ni. Maybe avoiding choyela is better(if it has happened before) than completely boycotting the resturant? Just a suggestion hai... Tara one thing hai, whats up with Hollywood's cliche' portrayal that you get sick everytime you eat Indian food ? I've seen it in many Hollywood moveis, as well as major TV shows! Are the WASPs supposed to get sick because of the spices involved, or b/c of the unhygenic measures? I never fully understood that! |
| czar | Posted
on 16-Apr-03 06:22 PM
"This is captain Logical Sense of Sajha Air calling Heathrow Air Traffic Control (ATC), do you copy?" "Yes Captain Logical, we copy, loud and clear." "Heathrow ATC, this is Flight 420 from Boston's Logan International en route to Kalanki International Airport, Sajhaland" "Go ahead Capn LS, we have you on our scope now" "Request permission to make emergency landing, passengers have severe health problem" "This is London ATC, what is the nature of the health problem? How many ill?" "Food poisoning from the symptoms. About 30 passengers affected. Revellers from some local New Year's party they claim." "Sajha Air 420, are you sure it is not SARS?" "Heathrow ATC, its hariyo baans ko cherauti, I repeat, hariyo baans ko cherauti, thats what the passengers claim. I am not familiar with that illness." "We copy, Captain, you are cleared to land on Heathrow. Cross wind advisory. Descend to 18,000, heading 170." "Heathrow, we copy. Descending to 18,000, heading 170." "Heathrow ATC, we are on emergency oxygen now. All passengers and crew using oxygen masks.Over" "Sajha Air 420, I repeat, you are cleared to land on runway 110. Over" "ATC, we copy.On final approach. Do you have visual? Over" "Sajha 420, we have you on visual. What is that brown stuff streaming out of the tail,over ?" "No idea ATC, over" "Sajha Air 420, despatching emergency medical services to taxiway. Please shut down engines" "ATC, we copy. Highly explosive gases on board.Over" "Sajha Air, ground control request permission to tow. Over" .... ... Tony Blair "Cherie darling, you just came back from the airport, what's that awful pong? Smells a bit like that stuff they serve in the Gurkha regiment mess" Sound of a sharp slap...... "sorry dear." |
| SITARA | Posted
on 16-Apr-03 07:18 PM
Ahile sunna hundai thiyo Programme AlCa CZAR: Black box voice recording Broadcasted over Bravo Bravo Charlie Radio!!! Aba Sunna hundaicha Tina Charley ko geet:" Someone tote me hau to danace las night" Party ma hit! Ani kehi chin pachey sunna huney cha...khel kood: Eleven Lindel ko Grand Pricks ma bhayeko pratiyogita. Shuva Chintak: Bravo Bravo Charlie Radio Namaste! |
| ashu | Posted
on 16-Apr-03 07:28 PM
Deep, Agreed that some "dielogs" have become trite on Sajha. But to use a chiasmus: Such "dielogs" are true because they are trite, and they are trite because they are true. :-) On another note, glad that the effect of food poisoning is wearing off on Sajha. oohi ashu ktm,nepal |
| MainBatti | Posted
on 16-Apr-03 08:33 PM
"dialok" [EXACT QUOTE!!!] ----------- Czar, That was so funny. :) ---------- Deep laai dhannebaad didai mero dui sabda yehi tungyaauchhu, MainBatti. |
| ashu | Posted
on 16-Apr-03 11:29 PM
Mainbatti, With your now using EXACT QUOTEs, glad to see a behaviour change. :-) oohi "changing behaviour is harder than changing cyber-identities" < ashu ktm,nepal |
| Tundikhel | Posted
on 17-Apr-03 10:23 AM
I had heard that the restaurent gave all the $$ back to GBNC. Now we would like to know what GBNC is going to do with the $$. My suggestion is to pay off all its debts. Including the PA system. I am sure people would not have problem paying the $15 for the next GBNC party. But we need to get rid of all the debts. P.S. I don't think it was fair on GBNC's part to take the entire sum back from the restaurenter too. After all he did feed the population. Why doe she have to suffer if GBNC did not store the food properly(they should have been refrigerated) ? |
| Poonte | Posted
on 17-Apr-03 10:24 AM
Kera khau kera...ali sancho hunchha ho, sathi ho! |
| DHUMBASSE (DUMBASS) | Posted
on 17-Apr-03 10:33 AM
Ha ha ha Czar that was Funny...very good one..I am still laughing..No, no yello string here... |
| MainBatti | Posted
on 17-Apr-03 11:35 AM
Ashu, I did not understand what you said in your last post. I never *misquoted* you. So when I used the exact quotes, I did not change my behavior. Note that in my first posting, I only *referred* to your posting. Switching from referring to quoting cannot be called a change in behavior because "taking reference" and "quoting" are complements, not substitutes of each other. I did not give up my "behaviour" of refering to pick up a habit of quoting. My behavior therefore has not changed! (pelna paa belaa peldee haalu na :)) When Bostonians are suffering--and hopefully, have recovered by now--from Diarrhea, the discussion we are having over technicalities are, I guess, trivial. I believe that our concern about quoting/misquoting is important, but can we put this off until summer? I will *sign up* for an appointment with you and we can discuss this--and may be some other (different) issues--in length. I do not want our discussion to shadow the main discussion here, which is about Diarrhea. Our all-rounder Health Minister Dr Devkota is now in the negotiation team and will probably be busy posing for pictures and talking to the commie brothers soon. Heath is important, so let's talk about it (although our Heath Minister might not have time to care about our health for a while)! Moreover, the time is very appropriate to discuss about health--I am sure that even people who would come to Sajha just to click on to 10-traits-of-a-good-boyfriend or for-guys-only type of threads will be visiting this thread (I assume some of them are victimized by that mysterious Choela)! Virtually in Nepal, MainBatti. |