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| astitwa | Posted
on 23-Apr-03 08:03 PM
Maile bhogeko amrika yesto chha Timi sochchau saathi amrika gayera maile timilai birsen, mero ek din sunera timi nai bhana maile ke birsen, ke gumayen. I hear the wind hissing outside my window, it seems like the wind is on carnage to tear things apart, to upheaval the organization of my world. Today, the day has been bleak and gloomy, I dont know if it is the gloomy weather affecting my mood or my depressed mood making the weather look drearier than it actually is. For some reason, from the minute I woke up, I have been feeling blue. Some kind of melancholy has sipped into my life, staining me with despair. For the last two years, I have been drawn into the mechanical lifestyle of a pure undergraduate student: sleep at 3 a.m., try waking up at 7 and after all the snoozes and 360Ú rotation in the bunk bed (which I hate of course), I finally succeed to wake up around 7:45 which is just 15 minutes before class. I run to class and try to keep awake in class through the seminars and class discussions, and gladly transform into a very engrossed audience because I have not had time to read the book I was assigned to read for the day. Lunchtime comes, (does it ever?) and I put a packet of 3-min noodles in the microwave, shove down the hot noodles down my throat because I am late for my work (I work over lunch time in the library, the time not taken by other people, it guarantees your job). After the work shift, I remember that I still have half of the paper to write which is due for 3:10 class, how could I even forget about that. I am writing the paper till 3:05, 5 minutes to run to the computer lab and get it printed and hand in a paper( full of mistakes and incomplete information) and I admonish myself , next time , you are going to work early on the paper and hand in a A paper. Well!! Sorry to say, that next time has never come. So comes dinner time, I walk to the cafteria and get sick just with the smell of burger and French (lau maryo..haina haina freedom) fries. I wish I had time to cook a good meal of dal-bhat and tarkari with achar and I realize that is one of the unrealizable dreams. I have become a kamchalau cook, thanks to the circumstances but still the food never tastes like what my mom makes but if only I had time to even cook a soupy dal and edible tarkari, that would be great but that is not happening because I am working during dinner time again (the same logic again.. dinner, lunch and weekends are guaranteed jobs). So after working till 10 at night, I return to the room, a messy room where pile of laundry stands in one corner (I have resorted to my formal dresses now, have ran out of all the casual dresses) and piles of books in one corner. Weary and tired, I wish I could hit the bed but NO .. who is going to finish the take-home exam and 20- page papers and lab reports and homeworks. Again, I end up sleeping at 3 and the days continue as always forever and ever. And today was the same day except I had not seen the sun this year (it snowed till april) and winter was not the same as home where if you see the sun, you feel it and you can sit outside to enjoy sandheko bhogata and badaam and I was missing something inside me terribly. If I come to msn and tell my friends, I will talk to them later because this paper is due in half an hour, they feel I am ignoring them. I feel guilty because sometimes I cant even give time to my parents to call me up. Hehe how busy we are right? And I get trashed on Friday nights because I need to relax and weekends start on Friday and before you know, it is Sunday night. Ani timi bhanchau saathi malai moj chha.. Yes, I cant complain, I chose to be here to learn more about life and the world; I have dreams of my parents to fulfill, my own dreams. I am paying a price to be here, thulo manche bhanna . I sometimes think I have lost the person inside me, I have forgotten what life is all about, and I have started counting hours by the rate per hour. I havenot forgotten anyone back home and I will come back home. Life is easy here but not full of life. I remember you saathi.. dont worry I remember you more than you think because I have nothing familiar around me, my past is not around me, the familiar faces and sadaks and gallis are not around me . I just have memories to be nostalgiac about, to remember and dreams to fulfill. |
| M.P. | Posted
on 23-Apr-03 10:06 PM
Astitwa, You said you are spending your second year at an undergraduate institution. Seems like we are on the same boat. I do not mean to twist this emotional--atleast I think so--thread into a humorous talk (if you are a new comer to Sajha, note that this is what almost every Sajhaity says before diverting the topic into some self-promotion campaign :)), but here are some of the things that have helped me. If you find yourself very busy--some people who have been there and done that might find it ridiculous when we say this and that is understandable, too--why not try the following: 1) Unstall that damn MSN, so you wont have to bother about making your friends feel you are ditching them. If you ask me, I am celebrating the fifth-month anniversary of "life without MSN" on May 1, 2003. 2) There are people--myself included--who like to receive long emails. Develop a template. It is not about caring for your friends or anything. If you are going to write the same thing to five different people, why write differently. Update your template at least once a month, though. :) 3) There is a trick about submitting a paper late (without having to beg the professor for an extension of deadline). Submit some other paper at the time paper is due. You will have time to work on the actual paper until the professor realises that you submitted the wrong paper and emails you. I tried it twice: unintentionally for the first time and on purpose a second time (man learns from experience, they say). This is not however a long term solution. 4) If you oversleep and miss a class, email the professor. Here are some of the execuses that have worked--and hopefully impressed the professors--in my case: --I forgot to adjust the clock (this works twice a year. I have used both my quota successfully) --For some reason, my alarm did not beep. I know this is a lame execuse but I promise I am not going to do this again. --I overslept. I know this is a lame execuse but I promise I am not going to do this again. [this excuse did not work once when I missed a 1:15 class. The professor wrote back saying: when do you go to bed?] 5) Execuses for late homework: --Hi Professor Stigliz, I am writing to ask you if I can still submit my homework due last Friday. I was kind of exhausted from the week's work and could not force myself to sit down and do the homework on Friday afternoon. I understand that this is a not a genuine excuse and will try to submit all othe assignments on time. Would you mind checking my hw for correctness even if you have a policy not to grade late assignments? [My experience is that once we ask a professor to check your hw even if only for correctness, s/he will accept it] 6) Some other time savers: a) If there is anything that you are going to include in most emails, keep them as address. Once my sister-in-law and my sister were complaining about not mentioning them in the email I write to my brother. These is what is in the address of my hotmail account, which I use for very personal/family purposes only: "Bhauju ra Baini laai pani sodeko thiyo bhanidinu holaa." b) Schedule your work (non-academic) immediately after lunch, before dinner, or before the party on Fridays. c) Sign up for appointments etc for similar times as in (b) above. 7) Try not to procastinate. This sounds more like BRB or Prachanda advocating for peace or Gyanendra advocating for people's rights. I have an (uninteresting * 10^100) paper due tomorrow and I am spending time posting in Sajha! I hope you will find my suggestions helpful (except for no 7, because once you come here, you might just get addicted to this place). Now to conclude the speech and to complete the self-promotion campaign, here is a poem by Dharma Bhusal from his Akroshle bokekaa jindagiharu and a short piece written in the same chanda by yours truly :) From Akroshle Bokekaa Jindagiharu: Koili le geet gaaune hariyo daadaa Syaal karaaune raato daadaa bhayo Radio le prachar garirahecha Prajatantra aayo, prajatantra aayo! My version: Padhna gayeko chhoro machine jasto bhayo Galli haru khojyo, goreto haru khojyo Kahi bhetena; aruko kuraa laai aafnai ho jastai garyo Haraayo, karaayo, chichyaayo Gaaumaa baa-aamaa le danga pardai gaaule haru laai dhaak lagaairahechhan Mero chhoro amrica gayo, mero chhoro amrica gayo! La ta. Yeti bhanera self-declared kabi darsak haru laai namaste garchhan. Ani manch baata bidaa bhayera astro paper lekhna jaanchhan. Nepathyaa maa Jhalak man Gandharbha ko geet bajiraheko hunchha. :) M.P. |
| isolated freak | Posted
on 23-Apr-03 10:59 PM
plagarism at its best?? |
| isolated freak | Posted
on 23-Apr-03 11:05 PM
shoot wrong thread ma paryo... sorry |
| oys_chill | Posted
on 24-Apr-03 05:56 AM
astitwa, hear ya hear ya! i wish I too had that courage like MP to uninstall the damn MSN.....tara k garne.....chaina! hehe, 8 baje class ma pugna ta garho cha ni, esp. on mondays......i tried once writing to my professor that I got stuck in new york..sometimes, that we have nepali festival, and sometimes, call from NEPAL..the last one usually works for me. Library/computer lab work is much better than working in dining hall it seems. I get time to do hw at my work rite now, but i put work hours to visit sajha.com :P ghar baata slow cha k computer. As far as friends are concerned, well changes my friend are inevitable in life, besides, MERO SAANO SATHI ma bhichu bro le bhanya jastai, chayera ni kasaile kasailai zindagi bhar sath dina sakdaina :)...besides, if u ask me, a friend in a need is pain in the butt !(esp. afnai tension bhai ra bela ma) OH fooood! there i stumble again. I stopped eating in dining hall cause i couldn't withstand smell of burger n FREEDOm fries. yeso ali ali gardai rice cooker joden. for one month..used to eat fried rice and eggs. Then, walmart ko daal i found out which would get cooked in five mins..time saver life saver! chick peas lai tel ma halera masala charkyo bhane becomes tasty....maasu chai balla ali ali sikdai chu.........ghar ko masu bhat jasto ta hudaina..tara kaam chalau! bhok mitho ki bhojan ma BHOK RE KYA :P aroo tyastai ho........last minute rushes are usually fun for me! i like cramming. i forget msn, i forget sajha, natra aroo bela padnai man lagdaina! as far as writing is concerned bro, after you get trashed, try writing your creative papers, you will be shocked what you can write..of course, u might wanna check the grammar and spelling later on! n yah. i do miss my handigaon ko gallis.......n those memory lanes are the only gullis where i want to reside......i am sure time will change for the better. or else there's always sodium azide :P Oys |
| Shikhar | Posted
on 24-Apr-03 06:21 AM
M.P. - Those are some great suggestion every student should heed by.... If only I had seen my weaknesses as clearly as you see yours .. maybe I would have done better in college ... You not only see your problems but have solutions for them too ... ever though of becoming a politician in NEPAL ... :-) |
| forget-me-not | Posted
on 24-Apr-03 06:53 AM
Astitwaji, A good one indeed. Nepali ma ukhan chha ni "aachano ko pir khukuri lr jandai na". Its really true. Uniharu lai America gayepachhi ke ke na hunchha bhanne bhram chha kya.... M.P. jiu good suggestion but most of the reason that you give won't work in mine luckly I have never been later for any assignments so far, but my friends tried to do that it never seem to wrk. Maybe grad schools are meant to be different and ofcourse MBA supposed to be tough ha??? MSN ko barema, I don't think I could unstall it. That's the only way for me to meet ppl and know about halkhabar. Now I am realsied something, everytime I am logged in I set it to appear offline mode....which means they will not see u online....but you can see then but can't talk....so when u don't want to get disturbed....I at the same time also use yahoo where I have the facility to be invisible,which people can't see me but I can and even talk to them... Assignment exams, apeprs and stuff the US ko trdaemark ho, u cannot avoid them, try adjusting them and try finishing them on time....I have a final exam tonight and still posting here, which i think is not that good, but this was part of my break.... la ta best of luck to all studenst who have their finals on their way... hami sabai lai pashupatinath le rachya garun.... |
| SimpleGal | Posted
on 24-Apr-03 07:01 AM
Great suggestions M.P.! I was particularly impressed by suggestion #3....Think I might have to use it for a boring paper due next week that I have to write for an unspeakably monotonous class that to my fathomless relief, ended yesterday... :))) Astitwa, I wish you luck! In peace. |
| Kale_Ko_Chartikala | Posted
on 24-Apr-03 08:58 AM
M.P. I wish I met you when I was in College. Damn, you are not just funny outright smart. P.S. Do you have any tips for working people such as how to quit surfing Internet and focus on work? :) |
| nuts | Posted
on 24-Apr-03 09:28 AM
It just feels so good to realize that there are many others who are going through the same exact experience as I am!! I love you all :-) |
| Poonte | Posted
on 24-Apr-03 10:49 AM
Sabai ko haalat testai ho, sathi ho! Choita khana aako budhi, jhol ma dubera mari! Poko punturo liyera jaam baru Dadheldhura ko greencard lai apply garna ;) |
| PremPujari | Posted
on 24-Apr-03 11:32 AM
Timile bhogeko America tyasto cha? Maile bhogya ta thyakkai timrai jasto cha. Badhnu parne GPA ghatya cha Ghatnu parne Bhudi bhadhya cha Afno ta America ma life asta-byasta cha Economy day by day jameen ma dhassya cha Jagir paaune aasha thiyo, tyo ni basyaa cha Insurance bhanda gaadi, paani bhanda soda sasto cha Mariiii jaa, afno ta bank balance nai dhwasta cha Timro kasto cha? Aafno ta yiii hera yestai cha!! Loneliness ko bahana ma sajha ma tassiya cha Din ko 25 ghanta chatroom ma dhhassiya cha Sathi haru bhanchan "America ma tero masti cha" Ti bajje haru lai ke thaa afulai kati sassti cha Tyasko khappar, aafno ta life ko surya-asta bhaa jasto cha!!! :( (FJPT#1) prempujari *fjpt=fresh je paayo tyahi!! |
| astitwa | Posted
on 24-Apr-03 11:43 AM
sabai ko byatha yesti chha, haina ta saathi haru. I had taken the night off to finish a project and when i came back to sajha, got MP's interesting valuable suggestions, Prem pujari's manai chune kabita and sabai ko afnai bichar. I wrote the piece as a general expereince for all of us who have come all the way to america to study, or pursue our dreams and it is applicable to all of us. I resent the fact that sometimes we get so caught up in the mechanical way of life, we forget who we are, what we are here for. Yes, damn msn is a 'necessary evil' tara ke garnu msn bahek sasto ma nepal ka saathi haru sanga kura garne arko medium chaina. So share your expereinces, we will all listen, haina ta saathi ho. ani isolated freak said, "plagarism at its best" ali bujhiyena, clear garnu milla? astitwa |
| Poonte | Posted
on 24-Apr-03 11:48 AM
maryo PP le maryo!!!! eheheh hallayoooooo sajha hallayoooooo!!!!! :))))) |
| jira | Posted
on 24-Apr-03 11:52 AM
Insurance bhanda gaadi, paani bhanda soda sasto cha Mariiii jaa, afno ta bank balance nai dhwasta cha hassayo yaar PP lay. Nepal ma hamro dakkchin desh ko sahuji lay soda hallayera guccha putusssa nikalya jasto hallayo yaar ..ekkchoti ma 9 rewuter scale ma |
| DHUMBASSE (DUMBASS) | Posted
on 24-Apr-03 12:14 PM
"Sathi haru bhanchan "America ma tero masti cha" Ti bajje haru lai ke thaa afulai kati sassti cha Tyasko khappar, aafno ta life ko surya-asta bhaa jasto cha!!! "" hallyo hallyo ..PPle naramro sanga..amrica aaune khojne jatti sabiako hyakat lai naramro sanga hallyo...thik cha la.. |
| astitwa | Posted
on 24-Apr-03 12:20 PM
I do not think that the expereince we are sharing here is to discourage the individuals especially the students who are aspring to come here but i just feel they should know the true pciture before they come here so that they know what they should be ready to face the realities of life when they reach the land of their dreams. Being abroad to seriously study is not a piece of cake and we are letting them know what it is like to be a student and PP is true in his assessment. Life IS full of ironies. astitwa |
| oys_chill | Posted
on 24-Apr-03 12:22 PM
aaaaaaaaaanch pp jyu, yo ta fresh nai cha hai.....dar lagyo jhanai........parsi ni yestai kabita sunaune ho ki....ehehe! la laterzzz.... |
| SimpleGal | Posted
on 24-Apr-03 12:35 PM
PPjyu, Baap re baap....khatara n realistic kavita lekhnu bhaye chha hajur le! Cheers hai....creativity chahi badhe chha!! In peace |
| najar | Posted
on 24-Apr-03 12:41 PM
Astitwa, you capture an experience that many of us have gone through--one way or the other, well-expressed!. PP jyu ko fjpt ta jhan superclassic!! aru pani jaawos freshners haru :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Tara euta kura vent gari haalam hai saathi haru--kahile kaahi yeso non-frustrating kura pani garam na, kati break up, tragedy, heartbreaks, hardtimes maatrai sunne! Chandrama ra surya duitai herna paaye ramailo hunthhyo ki bhanera ho, not by any means to undermine the potential of aforementioned postings... kripaya narisaunu hola :-) |
| oys_chill | Posted
on 24-Apr-03 12:48 PM
hass pbpd :) parsi dekhin aaucha.......samyogantak kahani haroo........potential HIT bhinaju haroo ko list samet ;) eheh! |
| SITARA | Posted
on 24-Apr-03 01:05 PM
And one for Najar ;) Yeah....MY LIfe Sucks big time! And yet I choose to be in it! Hurray!!! for the power of choice, a conscious, deliberate act of Will! :) Life is what we make it! Astitwa ji.... very penetrating insight! And I wish you less frustrating days ahead! PPji; kya ho?????? Life is beautiful hajur! :D |
| najar | Posted
on 24-Apr-03 01:25 PM
Ye mero pbpb chill brother, kyaa dinchha bhane (tesaai pbpb title paa ho ra, sajilo bhaye ta sabai le pauthhe ni!!)--parshi rey, does that mean saturday, the 26th, lau hai am eagerly waitin' :)) Hit list lai ali narrow banaam hai dear, tyo top 20 bhayo bhane ta saarai gaaro parchha malai Ani tyo samyogaanta kathha sunera jaamlaa ghaam herna dakshin tira, hunna? ;) lau lau aba cheetara lai pani chhoye chha chandra grahan le heheh ;) |
| SITARA | Posted
on 24-Apr-03 01:45 PM
Lau ke ko grahan ni! Jhaan positive side he re ko ta :) |
| Deep | Posted
on 24-Apr-03 01:51 PM
Dorm ma sareko pailai raat ma shiva buti lyayo Afnai manchhe bhe ra malai ni discount ma dinchha rey Aaja sanibar ko din samjhe gharma ahile ta bhyar bhyare stove ma masu pakyo Kyafteria ma ta jhan khallo bodi ra makaie po chha aja veggi day rey! Srinivas koma chhireko Angreji cinema TV ma aayo Sathile bhanyo yesko TV ma ta cable chha rey Cable ko cinema ma "ghachchi" dekhauchha bhanyo Homework garamla ni bhanera dhuke cinema ta "PG" rey! Nawami ni bityo tika ko din ni aayo Dashain ko tika ko din ta jhan tin tin wata quiz rey Samjhi samjhi tyar aayo, didilai phone garnai paryo Chalaudai nachalako phonecard ta expired rey! [pachhi dera sare dorm bata apartment ma] Freez kholya khai ke ho hwassa aayo Last week ko kukhoro purano bhe chha kyarey Sink ma jutho bhadako oorung le man nai jiring bho Kt lai angalo mardai sathi bedroom chhiryo, malai ta bahir sut rey! Apartment ko pani bhau badayo Allachhina le kata ke renovate garyo rey Yo sasto tole ma dera sareko tyahi pan-sat din bho "you goddamn amigo, go back to mexico rey"! |
| najar | Posted
on 24-Apr-03 01:55 PM
Sitaraaaa....hareyyyy, convert garna laa ko ke maile grahan lagaaera, tara did not seem to work!! ;) seen/heard your positive energy hajurrrr :) |
| SITARA | Posted
on 24-Apr-03 02:03 PM
Deep ji: So True! Journal mai bharisiyeko jasto cha ni! Hajur pani victim of America's experiences? :) |
| Nepe | Posted
on 24-Apr-03 03:15 PM
M.P. jyu ko suggestions made me feel like going back to college again and try all of them. Aafu padheko jamana ra thaun ma ta , ke students ke professors everybody used make excuses of all kinds. M.P. jyu, among all the faculties of the Humor Department of Sajha, yours stands out as a distinct genre (that 'Paramendra appointed PM' wala). Another genre which is the most dominant in Sajha is represented by Jira, Deep, Dhumbasse, Poonte, Oys, PremPujari and others. Sitara too represents a separate genre. Then there are Dilasha, Paschim, NK, Ashu, HahooGuru, the list is long, let me include Isolated Freak too, who have their own style of humor, satire and- let me be inclusive to be more precise where is due- mockery and sarcasm. My apology for being unable to include many new names, I am not yet familiar with them. For some reason, I think PremPujari is one of the most talented humorists. However, I find something missing in them. As a person of a deprived society I can not think of art without social responsibility. Art for art's sake or for artist's own sake is a selfish art to me (I am sorry, NK.). I believe art must have some kind of non-self consciousness, meaning it should care about the consumers of art. Often times that translates into social responsibility, not necessarily conventional one though. That said, I find PremPujari's gifted humor avoiding social responsibilty. He has limited it to entertain petty individualistic needs, if I may say so. PremPujariji maile hajur ko criticize gareko haina hai, criticism gareko, kya ? Aanch ! I think if PremPujari allows himself to own some social cause and his humor to serve it, ddyaam, he will shake us all up. Aanch ! Kuro kaha baata kaha pugechha. Damn yo alikati fursad and chilayeko mukh. Astoo |
| GurL_Interrupted | Posted
on 24-Apr-03 03:38 PM
"There is a trick about submitting a paper late (without having to beg the professor for an extension of deadline). Submit some other paper at the time paper is due. You will have time to work on the actual paper until the professor realises that you submitted the wrong paper and emails you." :-), That was funny! Know what u mean. Astitwa, I am in the same boat like u! But I have classmates who are involved in everything, yet are ahead of everything. They are in college's one of the most difficult and time consuming department, gosh! yet they are on top of everything. They are working, involved in tonns of school activities and some are even planning for their wedding, yet they hand in their assignments 2 weeks ahead of due date. I feel like a stupid, dumb-looser :-(! I used to think, I was the only careless and ignorant individual, good to know there are others who are in the same boat as me. Am not trying to say, it's good that u don't finish your work on time :-), get what I mean? jus saying, I ain't alone in this crime/confusion? |
| GurL_Interrupted | Posted
on 24-Apr-03 03:39 PM
U guys r funny! |
| M.P. | Posted
on 24-Apr-03 04:26 PM
This thread is getting interesting * 10^15 (as opposed to boring * 10^15, like my Astro paper). Thanks everyone for the comment on my post and liking my suggestions. I hope our sharing each other's Bethaa here sooths Astitwa's bethaa, too; when you see another prisoner next to you, you feel like you are a free man, they say. --------- Coming back to the topic at hand, two things happened recently to me/my friends recently, which I am going to share here (btw, knowing some of these might be useful to some of us here:)): 1) They appointed me as one of the Career Peer Advisors at my college. How I am going to advise my peers, I don't know. They have said they are going to train me. But one thing I know is that the stapler and the sticking papers that I carried in my bag that day did a very good job during the interview. As soon as I sat down for the interview, they gave me three separate sheet of papers that contained information on what was expected of a peer advisor. That's exactly what I had wanted. I took out my stapler and stapled those three sheets together. At the end of the interview, they asked me if I had any questions. I asked them when I was going to be notified of the decision. They told me a date. There you go! I had the opportunity to show them I had sticking papers, too (I took out the papers, wrote the date and stuck them on my diary). "Wow! You are so organized. You carry all those things everywhere you go?" One member in the panel asked me. "Yeah. You never know when you need them, right?" I said. Manmanai I was saying, "well, I brought them for the interview. But what is there to lose if I tell them I carry these stuff everywhere I go? It's a lie but it's a matter of a job." If you are curious, it was entirely for the interview that I put those things in my bag. And I had a calculator, a tape, 2 pencils, one color pen, and a couple of pilot pens in my bag that day. Just for the interview. Too bad I could not show them everything I had in my bag. 2) If you have been bunking too many classes and are worried your professor might not know you when you email him/her a question, you need not worry any longer. If you have not been attending most of the classes, your professor might actually get surprised to know that you were in his/her class. If you do not tell who you are, on the other hand, your professor might think you are an outsider or something (unless you talk about homework or paper). To avoid both--being found out that you have been bunking classes and being thought of as an outsider--this is how one can begin the email: "Hi Professor Jensen, I am a REGULAR VISITOR to your class. I had a question from chpt 3 of --------, which you have assigned for your class. How does....." Last year, this is what one of my professors said in the examination hall at the end of semester: "Wow, so many new faces!" Just because you have some of these tricks does not mean you should start bunking class. Bunking classes is bad, trust me. It is fun, though :) (except when your professor gives you a weird look on the day you attend the class and says--welcome back to the class or nice to see you again). -------------------------------------------------------------- This topic has already digressed from the main topic. I am off now; got to update the email template :) M.P. |
| Poonte | Posted
on 24-Apr-03 04:26 PM
I tired this just last week: Send an email on the day the paper is due...saying here is the paper... send another one after 2 days...saying looks like you forgot to attach the paper the last time... it worked for me ;) |
| forget-me-not | Posted
on 24-Apr-03 08:59 PM
Great ideas.. tara life ma kahile pani teso garna parya chaina ra pashupati nath ko kripa legarna naparos... M.P. jiu yetro ideas ka bata aaucha, hajur school ma ta sojho hunu hunthiyo, ki america aayera sojho redefine garnu bhayo, and that too your ideas are like continuous improvement.. tara America ma sabai ko aafani katha chha and dukha/sukhha chha... I finish my assignments mostly ahead of time...what I do is I work rewally hard on Saturday and as I work on sunday, i write my papers at work.easy job pako advantage leko ni.... aantya ma hami sabai lai pashupatinath le rachya garun... |
| oys_chill | Posted
on 24-Apr-03 09:23 PM
forget me not jyu, bhako saturday sunday ni hw garna thale...kaile sutne ni? arko week ko lagi refuel garna parena? ;) khoi afno ta sanibaar barta hunca.......4 baje samma ......yeso teen baje teera nidra khulcha usually :P eheh all in jest! |
| M.P. | Posted
on 24-Apr-03 09:56 PM
Are...is this a Conference of the Procrastinators' Society or something (Forget-me-not, you do not qualify for a membership of this prestigious society, so we will announce with our guest if that is ok with you :))? Common guys, go back to study! I mean, once you finish posting in Sajha (if that is to happen at all :)). ------------------------------ Forget-me-not, ma aile ni "sojho" chhu ni, k bhanyaa testo? :) Btw, nothing--ok, make that almost nothing (since I have started to eat *jhaarpaat*, which they call Salad, and beef, about which no information should leak from the boundaries of Sajha since I do not want to make my 75 year old grandmother angry by revealing to her all the *paap* I have committed)--has changed after I came to America. I still listen to Nepali songs most of the time, there are enough number of Nepalese in this small liberal arts college to unofficially make Nepali the second official language of the college :), and couple of posters from Nepal hang on my wall thus giving my room a Thamel-type environment. ------------------------------- Now for our procrastinator camrades, No matter which college or university we go to, they might be able to force us to do things that do not interest us, but noone will be able to stop us from things that interest us. All we need to do is cut our sleep. Sleep one hour less and compose a Kabita or post in Sajha. For some reason, I can not do things unless I have a very specific deadline and too many things to do. I was absent from Sajha for a while. Now that Astro paper--about which I talked almost 24 hours ago--is the only assignment due today and all I feel like doing is write "extended essays" in Sajha! Gadhaa laai bhaari pugena bhane hiddaina bhanyaa jasto :) [One good thing about this college is that they have these people called Writing Associates who can proof read your paper for you. Hence "there is neither the energy nor the will" (V.S. Naipaul's phrase) to proof read my own paper once it is written (but this does not mean you can email me your essay and have them proof read by my Writing Associates!). Last time I got my paper back from the Writing Associates, for a while I thought they were giving me a painting or something. No idiot (I mean, a sane idiot) can make so many mistakes!] ------------------------------ Read Hahoo Guru's postings in some other thread for Part B of this extended essay :) |
| M.P. | Posted
on 24-Apr-03 10:06 PM
Forgot to mention: Poonte's advise was timely and appropriate. M.P. was running out of tricks. Thanks a bunch. Those who are really really getting late with paper can divide Poonte's trick into two phases so they have more time to work on the paper. In phase 1, send an email saying 'here is the paper', but do not attach anything. In phase 2, send an email and say 'sorry that I forgot to attach the paper' and attach a wrong paper (finding some paper written in the past in not a hard job, is it?). Change the name of the file, so that even the professor thinks the attachment is the right paper. In phase 3, submit the actual paper. [Disclaimer: Some of the tricks are getting riskier now. M.P. will not be responsible for any consequences emerging from any of the aforementioned tricks. Use them at your own discretion] Looking forward to working harder next week (there is just one day left this week, so it is too late for this week), M.P. |
| najar | Posted
on 25-Apr-03 08:48 AM
A few other tricks in addition to M.P's that may/may not work: I. I don't know what happened to my computer, it was almost done, but suddenly i lost it, and now have to redo it again. I am panicking now! II. Was working in a lab computer, had it saved it on my floppy--can't find the floppy now III. Have been really really sick or i am having problems with bf/parents/best friend/ ..... IV. My family backhome is going through bad time, and i could not focus well. And if you want to improve grades ( disclaimer: may or may not work) share some of these with your professors: I. Work really hard (okay, nothing new here). II. Tell them you have been working really hard all semester, but since you are new to the education system here, it has not quite worked well. III. Have all these ambitions that you came with from saat samundra paari to fulfil IV. You have been homesick, missing friends from home and all that by which you were not able to focus. V. Run it by your professor that if you don't maintain good grades, you might loose scholarships/funding--will not be able to pursue further, all the dreams will go in vain VI. Frequent your visits to their office and talk about your plans, vision (to save the world), class and other topics that you deem appropriate (not sajha, ofcourse) hehhe hope they work :) |
| Deep | Posted
on 25-Apr-03 12:36 PM
Here is what a friend of mine tried for a partial credit (in calculus) in his first semester: Math teacher used to (probably still does) look like Einstein but act like plato-in the sense of a pholosophic symbol. Professor binabithha ma board ma lekhdai lekhdai ghorinthyo yattikai kahilekahi. My friend as sharp as he was might have observed the teacher well. In his first exam, he-my friend of course- didn't do too well. He was not the only one doing bad-there were many more in the class. So, a lot of his classmates started to point this and that to the professor and were milking some partial credits from the darshanik ganit adhyapak. Partial credit huh! my friend got the idea. He kept quiet in the class but followed the professor to his office and there he showed his paper. Requesting for partial credit what he said to the professor in his binamra aawaz was that this is how we used to do calculus in Nepal--this is my first semseter here--that's why I didn't know and did the math in nepali style but aainda I will do the way you want. Professorle ek chhin ghoriyera "C" lai "B" banaidyo rey! Teri ma lane ni! |
| forget-me-not | Posted
on 25-Apr-03 06:03 PM
M.P. Ji malai hajur le disqualify garnu bha hola, so will announce me your guest re.. As you wish hajur. Ke garne sanai dekhi lagya bani, jahile ni always ahed of time....tyo class ten ko first term ma whole math book sakera class ma daanga pardai basne bani..pachi aayera sathi harule bhanda po baala yaad aayo how bad I was for my friends..it really sucks to be an over achiever sathiharuko majha ma...( NowI rememer Babin Pradhan ko tyo song...) M.P.iu le dherai pragati gari saknu bhayechha...badhai chha...hajur yetai pragati gardai janu bhayo bhane ta chhitai mantri and pradhan mantari hunuhune kura ma mero kunai sanka chaina...aali aali chal kapat nagerne neta ni ke neta, ki kaso ?? i have finished my 2ta exams aaba last one is due for monday..aaja padna maan nai lageko chaina...khai kina ho...i am having hard time focusing on my course...unlai birsana khojya jan gayeni sakya haina...re kya last ma pashupatinath le hami sabai ko rachhya garun... |
| Bal Matlab | Posted
on 26-Apr-03 11:14 AM
Hey guys, The ideas are COOL re ke, amRIcan accent ma. Sachi some ideas do work, anin if the teacher's are liberal, they extend deadlines...Dherai ta haina ali ali chahi jhut boliya cha amRIca ayera. Asti class jana man lagena gayera TAX form bharnu parcha bhani diye - OK dude take it easy..I know it is a pain in the ass bhanyo. THikai cha bhanera tesko gyan liyera gaye. Tesko dui din pachi ballla tax bhare. Sabai ko afnai afnai katha cha, ke garnu kasto cha amRIca bhanthyo?? Yestai rai cha amRIca. |
| ashu | Posted
on 26-Apr-03 07:40 PM
If I can share my experience: Some people know me as someone who can write easily and fluently. Only I know how difficult and hard writing was for me. For some years, it was a personal battle I fought -- with support fom a few professors and friends. For a number of years, I suffered from -- NOT procrastination, NOT laziness, NOT boredom but -- what could only be be described as ASWB: "Acute Syndrome of Writer's Block". I mean, for a 20-page paper, I would usually do the research, read the books and journal articles, would have all these ideas and arguments very well mapped out in my mind, and I could talk about my ideas with anyone -- often impressing them intellectually. But I had had a hard time writing those ideas up. Writing to me was like trying to pedal a bicycle with hands firmly on the brakes. And I spent too much energy and wasted a lot of time TRYING to write. And for a long time, I was very puzzled, angry and devastated by this kind of very weird Writer's Block. You see, it's NOT a good thing when you sign up for too many (at one time, six) writing-intensive courses a semester and then suffer from Writer's Block!! But I was lucky. I had had very,very supportive professors who -- once they realized that my problem was genuine, and that I had done the necesssary rigorous thinking, and that I was making a serious (if, at times, comically heroic) effort to overcome the so-called Writer' Block -- started recommending various remedies to me . . . and I was ultimately saved. It was: a) recognition of the problem, (b) acceptance of the problem, and c) followed by an willingness to seek help that ultimately did me very good. These days, too, I sense pangs of Writer's Block now and then. But, wiser and more mature, I can cope with it a lot better now than I used to, and have spent the last few years without any fear of Writer's Block. I wonder whether others on Sajha too have suffered from Writer's Block in the past. oohi ashu ktm,nepal |
| isolated freak | Posted
on 26-Apr-03 09:20 PM
PP khatara poem.. america bhanne thau nai tyasto.. napugeko lai swarga jasto lagne.. pugeko lai chahi narkai jasto jagera wakkai lagne.. la sathi haroo, gajjab cha.. I wish i were a student, so that I can use all the *tips* |
| astitwa | Posted
on 26-Apr-03 09:43 PM
agree with you ashu.. writer's block plagues me sometimes. If the topic is close to heart and requires more personal input and articulating your own thoughts , its not a problem .. but in research papers, where you have to formulate an argument, tie down the facts and then reach a conclusion which is concurrent with the thesis, there comes the writer's block. I guess thats why i end up submitting my papers close to deadlne.. but i have realised over time.. just jotting down your random thoughts while collecting materials helps you a lot, you can just copy and paste them .. and you realise after a little polishing and moving around, they actually contribute to a vast chunk of your paper. writing comes with lots of practice.. i am realising it the hard way right now.. astitwa |
| rajunpl | Posted
on 27-Apr-03 03:35 AM
Amrika ma basna garo cha.k garnu nepali lai jaha gaye pani testai.baru nepal mai akash failiya cha. |
| PremPujari | Posted
on 27-Apr-03 07:54 AM
Oho, yo thread ta birshiii raa!! Thank you thank you everyone for RESPONSE on my JPT's.. eh!!! MP Bro, Shaitaaan, ehh.. Galat ideas haru sikaauchau?? Mero Mummy le "kucho liyera" lakhatla.. ehh.. Chora lai bigaayro bhanera!! But I loved those Ideas, Try garnu paryo jasto cha... Next week euta three page paper due cha!! Tyo submitting the worng paper chai PAKKAI works. Good to see MP byaak in bizznisss!!! |
| M.P. | Posted
on 27-Apr-03 12:05 PM
PremPujari, Yo Sajha ho, j garna ni paainchha Galat kuraa sikaayera danga parna paainchha Emotional topic laai ek chhin mai humor maa badalera guff chutna paainchha Yehaa darsak haru nisulka paainchha Tesaile, Aakash baata suru bhayeko topic paatal maa puryaauna paainchha Self-promote garna paainchha Self-praise garna paainchha Ani, ek aparichit stri le chat maa asti bhanejai "Smart banna laai matrai post garn[a]" pani paainchha! [case in hand, MP?] Yo Sajha ho, yeha "bizznisss" garna paainchha :) [By posting posters or otherwise] "Ahem, collective knowledge" badhaauna paainchha [One way to do so is to talk about some unknown individual--a senator may be] Exclamation marks ra periods ko sahaayetaa le sansaar haakna paainchha [remember, these are weapons] "Sex" laai censor garera "S*x" banaauna paainchha [Btw, Khimu Sir, this is NOT Terai spirit. Only posting your own picture is called Terai spirit :)] Porn herne haru ko database banaauna paainchha [On the list so far: Yeah--MP, Nay--Ashu, search the archieves for details] In a nut shell, yeha sabailaai recognition chhainchha! :) ------------------ I am going to go and get a shield as soon as I click "Submit", so that I am well prepared when I start getting fired :) Btw, your last poem was very nice. Nepe-jyu, Thank you for declaring that M.P. has a different genre! And you did that on time (Else, you would have been included in my 'poem' (?) :)) |
| GurL_Interrupted | Posted
on 27-Apr-03 12:46 PM
Hi Ashuji, I've been a severe victim of "Writer's Block." It was a problem before but not as much as it is now. And to make it worse, I am a world's greatest procastinator looser ever! Gosh, it's with all my papers. 2 page or 15 page paper. With all of them, I find it difficult to start. Not that I donot have ideas or don't know how am I suppose to do it. But everytime I sit down to write my research papers, my tummy goes funny and the next thing I know is I am not doing my h/w but everything else. Consequence : Unable to submit an assignment on time :-( :'-(. I used to think I am the only one dealing with this problem. My problem is I do not want to just write anything, whatever I plan to do, just want to do the best I can. And the consequence: never ever start it :-(. Couple of days ago, I wrote and rewrote an introduciton for my paper 7 times and still I wasn't satisfied and it was due the next day and I still had 5 more pages to type. In the end, I was stuck there with the introduction until tomorrow. I could not submit my paper next day than I spent my whole next day feeling GUILTY! God! I dunno what to do with it. I told my professor about it, he even told me like jus write a rough draft and submit it to me and I'll check it for you. Even with the rough draft it's the same thing, I spent 2 hours on a paragraph :-(. I just have a problem dealing with these research papers! Somebody suggest some helpful tips Plz. I'll appreciate it! I been a scapegoat of procastination and writers block for a while coz of that I have a guilt running thru my mind and ruling my Life 24/7! Save this helpless souL! Thanks! |
| jeep_wrangler | Posted
on 27-Apr-03 08:49 PM
hey hey sem problem..here...gurl.....procasting last minute......i ve two exams tomorrow n havent studied yet..........well i got all night......best wishes to me...lol......this is da fun part in college life.........u wait until last minute.....and throw some craps in exam or in papers and still pass........this is awesome.....i luv it............ best of luck guys.........have fun peace |
| astitwa | Posted
on 27-Apr-03 08:52 PM
Gurl-interrupted .. seems like your problem sounds very familiar. I used to do the same, rewrite and write my introduction and after staring at the computer for 4 hours, i would have 4 lines written. I would have a bunch of research materials and all my ideas stacked up but when it came to writing.. adkya adkyai.. few suggestions i have learnt from experience: 1. As you underline the research materials, instead of just highlighting them or jotting them down, type them down. They come handy because you can do the miracle copy and paste and actually formulate the body of paper from it, in addition you save time. 2. Dont worry abut making sense, grammar or spellings when writing the first draft. just write down your ideas although they might seem very ramdon and unrelated at that time. 3. Atleast have gap of 3 hours before re-reading your draft and make changes. Make atleast 1 other people read the paper, their suggestions would make sense because you have been staring at the paper for so long, you would never find mistakes. This has worked for me other than the times when i start writing for a paper due tomorrow but it takes a while to get writing ,dont let it get to you before that, hope it helps . astitwa |
| M.P. | Posted
on 27-Apr-03 10:15 PM
and 4) Do not format the paper into double-line space and see how long it looks unless you have completed at least 50% of the paper. It is tempting, but last time I checked, the content does not INCREASE no matter how many times one converts the material written on single-line space to double-line space! :) [I am assuming your papers are to be submitted in a 12 ppt Times Roman double-lines spaced fonts] |
| isolated freak | Posted
on 28-Apr-03 01:12 AM
try Palatino or courier new/courier fonts. these are approved by the APA. ani 1 page ko paper whatta 1 1/2 pge huncha.. arko use unnecessary words. for example , write "as a whole" a lot.. :-) nation. ko thau ma, nation as a whole. |
| hehe | Posted
on 28-Apr-03 05:31 AM
Some of my few tips based on my own experiences: If you are writing some paper/essays, try to find the research materials and other articles. Have a thorough look on each of them. Construct the parts of your essay on introduction, main parts- 2, 3 or 4 parts depending on the size of the essay on which you can develop some issues to discuss, and then conclusion. While reading, mark the sentences or the part of others essays with what can be kept under introduction, main parts and key issues to discuss and then conclusion. After figuring out what to include in what parts in the preliminary phase, type those marked parts and senteces in your computer. Then try to add some of the points which you can write in your own and develop further. Don't try to edit/format/ or see grammatical things in this stage. Write whatever comes in your mind. You can still write some major points or just key words if you can't go further, which you can write in more detail once you do enough research on the issue and get extra points to add. You can put some of the points from others introduction in your conclusion in some cases. When you work out in this way, sometimes you will know what would be the conclusion before you wrte your main body of the essay. Anyway, it would be helpful for writing as far as my experience suggests. After an initial framework for essay is done then you can work on the adding, deleting, editing, grammar, formatting and so on. You can put the short references when you write in the intial stage so that it would not be that much difficult to work on the references later. Otherwise, it would be sometimes a complete mess to work on the references on later phase and you would be easily spotted for the act of plagairism. I think this would help hehe |
| astitwa | Posted
on 28-Apr-03 09:31 AM
I would not necessarily recommend using unnecessary words.. no offense isolated freak but conservation of words is the key to better writing. Sometimes, even if the essay is supposed to be 7 pages and you try to make it 7 pages by adding and repeating the words or thoughts, the reader is bound to lose interest and you might end up getting less grades. As hehe said, jot down the main points, and try to support them, use examples , lots of them ..most of the writing professors look for evidence for your argument. If you cant think of an example now, better leave it. Something or other might come up later. back to paper writing .. astitwa |
| yOuNgBlOoDz | Posted
on 28-Apr-03 09:44 AM
oh wow.. i ain't the only piece who waits fo the last minute.. or often pass the due dates.. glad to know.. there r people on the other part of the world.. having same pblm ehheeh.. GO US... GO US GO US YB |
| forget-me-not | Posted
on 28-Apr-03 04:36 PM
yetro dherai tips rahechha..ma ni yo tips use garna lai late garnu paryo ki kya ho.... |
| Gurl_Interrupted | Posted
on 28-Apr-03 08:30 PM
Hey Guys!, Thank you much! Appreciate it. |
| M.P. | Posted
on 28-Apr-03 10:21 PM
Girl_Interrupted, You are welcome. Hehehe.. Gandhi hajurbaa once said that one should go for blame-taking and not credit-claiming, since there is no or little competition for the former. Surprisingly, it seems like there is no competition for credit-claiming here. So sojho M.P. will take it with pride. Interested parties who want to share Girl_Interrupted's credit shall contact me :) --------------------------------------- Now for my procrastinator 12.5-Courier-double-line-space-with-a-lot-of-redundant-words-using camrades: 1. "Why do things today that can be done tomorrow? " 2. There is an article at http://or.essortment.com/procrastination_rhfp.htm, which is a slap on our face. It says, "[people procrastinate because of] uncertainty or lack of confidence". I do not agree. We save everything for the last minute because we are confident that we can get it done in the last minute. It is those organized people who take a long time to do their assignment, so they need to start early. We, the procrastinators, are smart! :) 3. With no will nor energy to do things at the end of the semester, yours truely is joining the Procrastinator's Club. Visit http://www.procrastinators.org/news.shtml for more details. This is how procratinators look like: http://www.procrastinators.org/members/groupphoto2k.shtml M.P. |
| prabhats | Posted
on 29-Apr-03 03:26 AM
This thread is really an interesting one. I am posting one interesting story on lion, rabbit and fox which used to be the interesting charachters in our childhood stories. This story was forwarded to me by one of my classmates some weeks before. I hope that everybody whether doing postgraduate research and writing thesis or struggling in undergraduate assignments will enjoy the story. Here it goes then: A STORY One sunny day a rabbit came out of her hole in the ground to enjoy the fine weather. The day was so nice that she became careless and a fox sneaked up behind her and caught her. "I am going to eat you for lunch!", said the fox. "Wait!" replied the rabbit, "You should at least wait a few days." "Oh yeah? Why should I wait?" "Well, I am just finishing my thesis on 'The Superiority of Rabbits over Foxes and Wolves.'" "Are you crazy? I should eat you right now! Everybody knows that a fox will always win over a rabbit." "Not really, not according to my research. If you like, you can come into my hole and read it for yourself. If you are not convinced, you can go ahead and have me for lunch." "You really are crazy!" But since the fox was curious and had nothing to lose, it went with the rabbit. The fox never came out. A few days later the rabbit was again taking a break from writing and sure enough, a wolf came out of the bushes and was ready to set upon her. "Wait!" yelled the rabbit, "you can't eat me right now." "And why might that be, my furry appetizer?" "I am almost finished writing my thesis on 'The Superiority of Rabbits over Foxes and Wolves.'" The wolf laughed so hard that it almost lost its grip on the rabbit. "Maybe I shouldn't eat you; you really are sick--in the head. You might have something contagious." "Come and read it for yourself; you can eat me afterward if you disagree with my conclusions." So the wolf went down into the rabbit's hole and never came out. The rabbit finished her thesis and was out celebrating in the local lettuce patch. Another rabbit came along and asked, "What's up? You seem very happy." "Yup, I just finished my thesis." "Congratulations. What's it about?" The Superiority of Rabbits over Foxes and Wolves.'" "Are you sure? That doesn't sound right." "Oh yes. Come and read it for yourself." So together they went down into the rabbit's hole. As they entered, the friend saw the typical graduate abode, albeit a rather messy one after writing a thesis. The computer with the controversial work was in one corner. And to the right there was a pile of fox bones, on the left a pile of wolf bones. And in the middle was a large, well-fed lion. The moral of the story: The title of your thesis doesn't matter. The subject doesn't matter. The research doesn't matter. All that matters is who your advisor is. Keep smiling as it costs nothing! Make others smile more than one smiles oneself. |
| astitwa | Posted
on 29-Apr-03 09:44 AM
hey Prabhats, Nice story, i guess the thread is becoming diverse in topics. Ani M.P. don't worry you can be the sole reciever of credit , i have appointed you for that post.. the credit receiver.. ok guys keep on posting.. have fun with the last week of the semester. Tara before going, some last words that i picked up from a student's room. "Hard work often pays off after time, Laziness pays off now" the motto of procastinators. astitwa |