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   Why in nepal men have to hold hands?? i 24-Apr-03 saroj
     Duh!!!!!! It's culturally accepted way o 24-Apr-03 Poonte
       Junp to conclusions. The man on the left 24-Apr-03 rook
         " It's culturally accepted way of expres 24-Apr-03 el paso
           Hetterika, el paso jyu...astinai bhannu 24-Apr-03 Poonte
             The symbolicism of body language, holdin 24-Apr-03 SITARA
               I agree with Rook and Sitara. I mean, 24-Apr-03 ashu
                 Thank you Ashu ji for delivering the mes 25-Apr-03 Puru Subedi


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saroj Posted on 24-Apr-03 11:31 AM

Why in nepal men have to hold hands?? i never understand


Nepal's Magasasay award winners Mahesh Chandra Regmi (left) and Bharat Dutta Koirala talking after the inauguration of "The Agenda of Transformation: Inclusion of Nepal's democracy" on Thursday at Birendra International Convention Centre. The conference has attracted several Nepal experts from all over the world. The conference is organised Social Science Baha.
(Online Photo: Bikas Rauniar)


Poonte Posted on 24-Apr-03 11:58 AM

Duh!!!!!! It's culturally accepted way of expressing bondage!

Hami Nepal ma chhanda baato ma sathi sanga angalo marera ta hidthem...any problems? No, sir! we were not homosexuals--and so what even if we were?

I know some of us, after having spent some time in the West, tend to frown at gestures of holding hands and hugging people of the same sex, which is also okay--we are, after all, humans; and it's perfectly understandable that we change according to the places we live in. However, to shun some aspects of other cultures as stupid (as your sarcastic heading suggests), especially of the one that we all gleefully took part in some time in our lives, is simply arrogant!

Choose ethnorelativism over ethnocentrism!

Khai khai...angalo marum ta Saroj bhai lai! :P
rook Posted on 24-Apr-03 12:26 PM

Junp to conclusions. The man on the left is in a wheel chair. The man on the right is kneeling. As the man on the right does not have easy access to the other man's right hand, he used his left hand just as the photographer took the picture. Touching is one means of showing that the men are sharing their time in the limelight. You will have noted that the Arabs kiss, the Spanish embrace, the Italians stroke the cheek, the Japanese bow. I don't see anything wrong with Nepali's holding hands. Get over it.
el paso Posted on 24-Apr-03 03:15 PM

" It's culturally accepted way of expressing bondage"

Good to know. I am very interested in bondage, sadism, masochism, foot fetish, etc...you know, anything that keeps my boring life busy.
Poonte Posted on 24-Apr-03 03:21 PM

Hetterika, el paso jyu...astinai bhannu pardaina? Tapain lai TYO LEVEL ko bondage ma ichha chha bhane ma kahan aunush...hatkadi, korra, blind folder, mukh ma haalne gagger...sab chha...baandhera swam ki swam hanamla korra le! Naak kaan, sabai chhedera ghusaidimla kucho ko sinko! eheheh :P

Tyo maathi ko bondage ta arkai level ko hau!
SITARA Posted on 24-Apr-03 03:47 PM

The symbolicism of body language, holding hands in this case, is culturally specific and regionally expressive. Interpreting any such gesture through a window frame of a non-local custom or tradition translates into a faulty interpretation. Hence, social scientists are asked to observe another culture with cultural relativism.

The flipside of men holding hands is man-woman holding hands... apply it to our Nepalese culture and society (in Nepal) and see how culturally appropriate or inappropriate it seems.
ashu Posted on 24-Apr-03 05:51 PM

I agree with Rook and Sitara.

I mean, the photo is NOT exactly two pumped-up guys wearing tights holding
hands, if you know what I mean. So, let's put things in a cultural perspective.

*****

I was at the conference all day yesterday.

Dr. Harka Gurung gave the first-ever The Mahesh Chandra Regmi lecture titled "Trident and Thunderbolt: Culture dynamics in Nepali politics", with Mr. Regmi -- the one on the wheelchair -- in the audience.

Our Paramendra would have loved Dr. Gurung's thesis: That the madeshis are overwhelmingly discriminated. [I think they'll put all the papers on the Web later.]

This morning's session starts off with a plenary session titled "Inclusion and regional space". Panelists inlcude Ramawater Yadav on the Madesh, Lhakpa Norbu Sherpa on high himalaya, Major Gen (retd) Ganesh Mahara on Far West, and Kanak Mani Dixit on Kathmandu-centricism.

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One thing I find interesting is that this social science conference is beging paid for
NOT by TU and KU (even symbolically) and other such educational institutions but by the usual donor agencies such as UK's DFID, Swiss Development Agency and the Tony Hagen Foundation. Not that anything's wrong with that; but how can one criticize foreign aid in a seminar funded by foreign aid?

Puru-ji, I relayed your message to Anup Pahari.

oohi
ashu
ktm,nepal
Puru Subedi Posted on 25-Apr-03 08:33 AM

Thank you Ashu ji for delivering the message. I am in-touch with him now via e-mail.
-PS