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| ashu |
Posted
on 14-Jun-01 10:45 AM
Hi all,
The probe report is being read out live right now.
The probe reports that Dipendra shot everyone, before
shooting everyone.
Some points to consider.
The probe found that:
a) Dipendra was drunk, and was indeed carried to his room
by four people.
b) In his room, Dipendra smoked "shikar' cigarette, laced with
ganja and "some black substance". (probably cocaine).
c) Dipendra had spoken to Devyani Rana on his mobile
phone at least three times that night. Rana is out
of the country at the moment, and gave a statement
to the Committee via an audio tape. Apparently, she
refused to divulge the details of her relationship
to Dipendra.
(My guess: She probably had dumped Dipendra either
on June 1st or shortly before . . )
Stay tuned for more news.
oohi
ashu
snap
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| ashu |
Posted
on 14-Jun-01 11:01 AM
>The probe report is being read out live
>right now.
>
>The probe reports that Dipendra shot
>everyone, before
>shooting HIMSELF
apparently, there's an OFFICIAL Web site of the
report. nepalnews.com probably has it.
oohi
ashu
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| ashu |
Posted
on 14-Jun-01 11:27 AM
Since Devyani's FULL statement is not included in the
final report, we shall never know for sure just what
made Dipendra suffer from what can only be called a
greatly grievous instance of "emotional hijacking."
Such cases of emotional hijacking do occur, when
amygdala in one's brain is strongly "flooded" with a
particular emotion such as rage/anger etc.
By most accounts -- notwithstanding this alcohol-and-drugs --
background, Dipendra was a likable, sociable guy, not
given to killing people.
Apparently, he got his final cigarette, the one laced with "black subtance" and ganja thru his cousin Paras.
But Dipendra fired all the shots.
This is all really shocking, and not quite believable to most
people in Nepal. So, we expect riots/julus and all the
rest tomorrow.
oohi
ashu
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| sparsha |
Posted
on 14-Jun-01 11:35 AM
>>Apparently, he got his final cigarette, the one laced with "black subtance" and ganja thru his cousin Paras. <<
Man, I am thrilled to notice your daring words (from Nepal) against Paras.
I truely hope you won't get any "substance" black or otherwise from him, the only surviving heir(?).
sparsha
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| ashu |
Posted
on 14-Jun-01 11:43 AM
The probe committe members were CAREFUL to say that
their report is basically a "what-happened" account
of the killings on June 1st. This account is based
on their interviewing almost 100 people, including
ALL the surviving Royals. Apparently, they interviwed
all and started corroborating one report against anothert,
and so on and on.
They also displayed all guns and related paraphernalia
to the jounalalists at the press conference.
As such, the probe committe said, somewhat
cryptically, that they had reached no conclusion.
And that their report is basically a well-evidenced
sequence/documentation of what happened after what in a step by step manner.
oohi
ashu
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| nepali |
Posted
on 14-Jun-01 12:27 PM
Shame on govt. and your PM GIRIJA who blamed the international press for disseminating the news of Dipendra as the killer.
GIRIJA must resign now.
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| Prakash |
Posted
on 14-Jun-01 12:32 PM
Ashu dai:
Ever since the press conference was over, I have been troubled by a few things.
1. The guns on exhibit looked very, very heavy. Was it possible for a drunken and drugged Crown Prince Dipendra to have carried those guns all by himself. The report says that only minutes ago, he had to be helped even to get his shirt off.
2. Why did they stress so much on the gloves?
3. Why did they not mention the mobile no. when they reported the Crown Prince called his ADC (Bohra) for his Shikhar churot?
4. Why did Mr Ranabhat, on being asked by a journalist if the committee had read the post-mortem report, repeat like a parrot that everything can be found on the detailed 200 page report?
5. Why did they flee the conference at the end so abruptly?
To date, I firmly believed that Crown Prince did indeed shoot them all. But now, my belief is shaken. And I was appalled to see Mr Ranabhat joking, laughing and fooling around with the guns on exhibit when we are dealing with such a grave matter. What do you think?
And, yes, Ashu dai, now we can expect some days of unrest in the capital and elsewhere in the country.
Prakash
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| ego |
Posted
on 14-Jun-01 12:49 PM
We don't need a Nepali class. What we need is a class where Nepali guys can be taught to be less egotistical.
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| Biswo |
Posted
on 14-Jun-01 04:53 PM
Oh.
Isn't it time we stop lionizing a cocaine-puffing spoilt brat
(Dipendra) and accept he could be a killer?
What the heck . I can't think of a king with an irresistible urge
to puff cocaine wherever he goes.To Pokhara, to aggressive India
and to UN. Could we save our national prestige with such people
as king?
What worries every Nepali more is that the new prince is also a
drug addict. Black lace, huh?
I think we should convict these Gajendra/Paras/Ram Krishna for
providing drugs to royals and young people.
By the way, "Khaaeko bikh po lagchha, nakhaayeko bikh kahaa lagchha!" , so let's spare a few other royals from the suspicion
of regicide. They have some genuine other charges to face.
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| Tara |
Posted
on 14-Jun-01 05:03 PM
Paras is a partner in crime
Since Gajendra, Paras contributed to Dipendra's heinous act, they would also be partners in crime. They all need to be prosecuted. However, there is a clause that would stop the royal brat to be 'above constitution.' So we need...
1. change in constitution to prosecute the brats
2. prosecution of the brats
3. boston marathon to appoint the next heir to the throne
Jai desh, Jai chharesh
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| thank |
Posted
on 14-Jun-01 10:05 PM
I mean name me one Nepali guy who doesn't smoke or who hasn't smoked charesh? We are all nali ko kira so we will always be nali ko kira. It's about time women rule in Nepal. Guys couldn't do anything(we have seen enough of it for god's sake more than how many years? 200 300) so let women rule. They have wider vision than men. And who the hell cares if someone is educated in Iv League? We need someone who has some principals in life.
Thank you very much
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| Robin |
Posted
on 14-Jun-01 10:29 PM
That is a bold statement about smoking. I don't agree with that and I think many of us will not agree with that. I also don't agree that women will rule any better than men. What is agreeable is to give women more opportunities to come into politics and other careers, even within Royal family like in England. Any other views?
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| rule |
Posted
on 14-Jun-01 11:39 PM
Afterall it is just an argument. I think women will definately rule better than men.
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| Robin |
Posted
on 14-Jun-01 11:56 PM
Rule, which are you man or woman?
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| look at maobadi... |
Posted
on 15-Jun-01 12:07 AM
Woman should rule Nepal. Look at maobadi, they are converting all rural women into rebels. So it is evident that one day, women will rule Nepal.
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| Louis |
Posted
on 15-Jun-01 12:16 AM
From what I gather, Nepal is a place where brothers unknowingly send their sisters to the brothels of India, then run off to other countries with the money, then refuse to return home when their visas run out because they are afraid that the country will turn bad because their government is run by a bunch of liars and theives who kill their parents and who claim priviledge by the status of their birth and where wild men eat the brain of dead kings and who are never allowed to return to Nepal, and that women believe that by walking under the belly of a tusker they will bear a male child but are more likely to be killed by their husbands or mothers in law if they have a female child, who is only good for being sold again to the brothels in India and if they return to Nepal they are likely to be shuned by their parents and forced to eat excriment because they are believe to be witches, and whose brothers are forced to cut off one digit of a finger if his father abandons them and runs off to India to earn money so that he can go to an Arab country where he will develop a drug habit and then be exported back to Nepal where he will take a second or third wife who will bear him children and if any of them are girls, they will hang themselves from a tree or jump into Rani Pokhari with their boy friends instead of being forced to eat excriment or sold off to the brothels of india where they will develop aids and be forced to return to Nepal in disgrace and be forced to beg on the streets where no one will offer them money because they think they are indians who have no right to be in Nepal and their children will wind up sleeping on the streets of Kathmandu where they will be the target of foreign pedophiles who will give them aids and promise to take them to a foreign country where they can meet others like themselves who have no hope of being accepted in a foreign country and no hope of being able to return to Nepal unless they are able to earn enough money to pay a lawyer who will help them become legal and get a social security card from a man on the corner who will make a phone call to his friend who stole the pin number from an unsuspecting woman who felt sorry for him because he told her he was trying to improve himself and that all he needed was a chance so he waited near her until he could get the pin number and ran off to make the call and tell his other friends that this was a good way to call around the world to see if it was quiet and peaceful in Nepal because he wanted to return. Is this a fairly accurate description of the situation there?
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| Robin |
Posted
on 15-Jun-01 12:50 AM
Louis brother,
Inevitable -(Excuse my language, but Shit happens)
It happens in Nepal, happens all over the world, some we hear about others we don't. Right now we hear from cloud of truth so intensly because it happened to one of the most wealthiest family, who happened to rule Nepal. In the same country we hear news 14 people died of mushroom poison, no one gives a damn.
People sell people, people kill people all over the world not just in Nepal. In reality, Nepali people are alright. Lord Buddha was born in Nepal. We produced one of the most trained soldiers (Gurkha). There are a lot of well educated people in Nepal. One of the Nepal's BIGGEST CHALLENGE is that it is LANDLOCKED and have a lot of mountains.
Peace.
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| puzz |
Posted
on 15-Jun-01 07:42 AM
Let's look at the positive aspects of the Nepali society and build upon it.
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| Arjun |
Posted
on 15-Jun-01 09:51 AM
"Hope springs eternal", even when there is no hope. Until the people act on their own behalf, they cannot expect others to care for them. The must come a drastic change in the management of the country. Where are the young voices?
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| Namita kiran-Thuene |
Posted
on 15-Jun-01 10:04 AM
Louis,
Nepal is also a country where parents send their 'honhar' sons to the best missionary schools they could find and not know their children are being molested. The Fathers who were supposed to give their lives to Lord Jesus Christ and do sewa to poor manage to fondle, rape young boyes years after years. Some lose their mind and some life. Do you hear anthing about it? Pin drop silence.
Yes boys and girls let's look at the "bright side!" Buddha was born here. Mero bajele ghiu khatho, hat sungh sungh. I don't see any pride in having to send our brave sons to take 'lat' from British. They are the worst paid and despensable.
Sure, Peace. Right! Let's march ahead to Saudi Arab, Brothel in India, Hong Kong, USA. Peace brother peace. everything will be ok.
namita
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| sally |
Posted
on 15-Jun-01 11:11 AM
So.
What Louis wrote is true. (Except, of course, for the over-generalization, but that's his literary right.)
What Robin wrote is true enough, too, except that I really don't care (except as a matter of historical interest) that some great thinker was born somewhere 2,500 years ago. Or that in the much more recent past (but STILL the past) that a few men with few other opportunities have made terrific mercenaries.
However, it's all just one more twist on the Nepal-is-khattam conversation.
Fine. Americans are always having America-sucks conversations, too. Since some folks here may never have heard this particular conversation, it goes something like this: America is a place where people are just glued to TV sets and big corporations rule and no one else has a say and democracy is a crock because money rules and we're all forced to be isolated from our neighbors so we'll be glued to TV sets and buy more from big corporations that destroy our neighborhoods and then we're all isolated and miserable and kids go nuts and take drugs and shoot each other ... yadayadayada.
This conversation often concludes with Americans imagining that places like Nepal are full of joy and wisdom. Meanwhile in Nepal people are imagining that America is fully of joy and wisdom.
Actually I don't have a problem with EITHER of these conversations. I've taken part in both of them. They're part of a process. And I suppose someone could weigh the various problems of both countries and decide which is really the most khattam.
But the thing is ... what do we do about it?
So yes. Let's look at the positive aspects of Nepali society. (By that I mean CURRENT Nepali society, not Buddha and the Gurkhas.) The development of the free press has been amazing in the past 10 years. A lot of Nepalis are bright, educated, and yes, even honest.
And of course, let's also be frank about the negatives. Robin and Namita have certainly provided a partial laundry list of those.
No society advances by being willfully blind to its problems. And at the same time, no society advances by being full of despair about its problems. It seems as if the royal family was either willfully blind to the terrible, terrible problems of their own children, or felt too despairing or fatalistic or helpless to address those problems head on.
And we see what happened.
Just my thoughts.
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| Nepali Bro |
Posted
on 15-Jun-01 12:06 PM
Louis Bro/Sis or both, (sorry I can't tell by your name):-)
Looks like you are either dumped by Nepali or just kicked out of Nepal that is why you are only looking for negative side of Nepal and Nepali. Can you name one country which doesn't have similar problem? May not be the exactly the one Nepal has. Please don't waste your time looking for negativism on others. If I look what is wrong on your name LOUIS or where are you from, I can come up with many.
Cheers. Proud Nepali Bro.
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| Robin |
Posted
on 15-Jun-01 03:17 PM
Either, I am not taking my time to explain or somebody is mis-reading what I am writing. My message is POSITIVE. Think Positive. Inevitably, shit (uggh)bad things happen. Let's make it a better world. Let's take care of our shit and move on.
Namita, you are taking things seriously and personally. Lighten up! It's not good to sell your sister. We ought to educate these people. There is always a solution.
I was just trying to point our a couple of POSITIVE things about Nepal. Peace II. I am for PEACE and I was not being sacastic. Nepali brothers and sisters help me out since I have not been to Nepal for a long time. Could you write some more POSITIVE things about Nepal. One Great example of positive about Nepali people is, this site designer, a very dedicated young man San Pradhan.
Like Ashu said, there is CHALLENGE or PROBLEM there is opportunities. Yes, there are 22 Million opportunities in Nepal. Let's help one another.
PEACE.
Robin
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| the third eye |
Posted
on 15-Jun-01 03:32 PM
people like u make me sick. sick to my stomach. i wonder what you will say if u read articles by ck lal and Dixit? maybe you will brand them as desh ghati. it looks like u are one of those people who would like to sweep all the problems under your hand made carpet . Try to question not just accept things. chanting the mantra of peace won't make a place peaceful. wake up and smell the stench. That might be coming from around you!
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| Robin |
Posted
on 15-Jun-01 04:08 PM
the third eye or whoever you are,
1. Why do you disguise your name?
2. What is wrong with peace, do you want the third world war?
3. What is that you doing to help Nepal or Nepali?
Robin
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| Robin |
Posted
on 15-Jun-01 04:50 PM
the third eye,
I did not mean to be personal, it is your right to disguise, it is an internet. You did not make me sick, you made me laugh. I was offended a little, then I realized, I am spending too much time on writing here, it is my pleasure to write.
I just ate some ice-cream and decided to take some break no point in beating a dead horse. You will love it or hate it. I am going to take a vacation for a few days.
Robin
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