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| noname | Posted
on 01-May-03 07:10 PM
Missing Twin Pillars Pillars are missing not only in Nepal India border, but also in south block's vision of future Nepal. Interestengily but not surprisingly Times of India, believed to be close to the ruling party and honored to have played a leading role in shaping the Indian foreign policy from long past, published three editorials in a row on the KING within the span of 30 days. In their editorial ROYAL RED STAR (published Friday, April 04, 2003), they stress on Nepapl's twin pillars of monarcy and multiparty democracy. Although the very next editorial titled KING'S CROSS (April 15, 2003) discusses in length about abdicating the throne by the Dalai Lama, it mentions only about the Maoists proposal of a throne council to elect the King and reiterates that "the King must decide wisely on the best way to sustain the monarcy alongside multiparty democracy, these being the twin pillars of stability in Nepal". However, the editorial titled Republican Monarcy (May 01, 2003): http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/cms.dll/html/uncomp/articleshow?msid=44984881 has more 'radical' suggestions in offing. To quote few lines: 'One way of doing this (maintain the appeal of monarcy) could be for the king to abdicate and launch his own political party'. && 'Should he make bold to do so, he could well pave the way for a new republic where the monarcy too would abide as a stablising symbol of Nepal's multicultural identity'. Interestingly, there is no mention of those twill pillars ! ********** On a further note, although details of Prof. SD Muni's , one of the south block's think tank, visit in Kathamandu are still sketchy, it is clear that his tone towards Maoists is softening. If the we are to believe the reports, he has changed his stance towards the Monarch. Is this only coincidence? ************** On another note, this line from editorial of Kantipur (Baisakh 05) baffled me. Does this mean there was pressure from 'outside' to include him as chief negotiator? jftf{6f]nLsf gfOs]sf ¿kdf pkk|wfgdGqL tyf u[xdGqL ab|L d08nsf] 5gf]6 pgnfO{ lbOPsf] pQ/bfloTjdf pgsf] bIftf of lgk'0ftf eGbf d'n'ssf] /fhgLltnfO{ k|efljt ug]{ ljleGg sf/stRjx¿nfO{ Wofgdf /fv]/ ul/Psf] b]lvG5 . |
| noname | Posted
on 01-May-03 07:24 PM
BTW, here there is one interview of Dr. BR Bhattarai published in TOI on may day. http://www1.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/cms.dll/html/uncomp/articleshow?msid=44985376 .. |
| isolated freak | Posted
on 01-May-03 10:28 PM
SD Muni is a stupid, idiot and every adjective that's used to label someone with no brains. On the other hand, Varun Shahani seems a little balanced, but he too, being an IR prof. at JNU can't get over his biases. |
| isolated freak | Posted
on 01-May-03 10:32 PM
and why i call SD Muni all that: SD Muni, the self procliamed Nepal expert at one of the prestigious learning institute of India, JNU makes all these big statements on Nepal. His artciles are biased to the extent that the word bias isn't enough to describe his antyi-Nepal sentiments. One of his (in) famous suggestions was that we should be operating like Bhutan. |
| isolated freak | Posted
on 01-May-03 10:42 PM
no name: The afct that the US declared the maoists as a terrorist organization, and is yet to issue a statement regarding the ongoing peace talks.. what does it tell you? I am certain that the Indian govt and the US govt, along with many other governmnets in the world want to see a stable and peaceful Nepal, and they want a strong leader to emerge out of the ashes. Maharajadhiraj Sarkar now seems to enjoy the support of both India and the US, not to forget China and I am of the belief that something "interestinG" will be happening in the near future. |
| noname | Posted
on 02-May-03 04:35 AM
IF, I don't think that this shifting of gravity, if any, due to change in paper status of Maoists will have any consequences in the ongoing peace talks. Other internal factors are more determining, I think. By the way, what is Chand going to say in the address today? I am waiting for his address. Is he going to mention about the progress in first phase of talks? Or, is he going to resign from the post? Or is he there for another MAUSAM KO BHABISYA BANI? Have a nice weekend!! |
| isolated freak | Posted
on 02-May-03 06:30 AM
The PM's speech which ended jusrt 5 mins ago had a couple of interesting points: 1. He said that he wants PEACE and that's his only mission. 2. That, if anybody is not happy with his peace initiatives, he is willing to resign. He is not one of those "kursi ma tasine" PM 3. Once there is peace, he will focus on holding elections. 4. Major Political Parties should be blamed for this "crisis Situation" 5. The Political Parties shouldn't use students to fulfill their political ambitions. Will write more on this later. |
| isolated freak | Posted
on 02-May-03 06:36 AM
See in this age of globalization and all that, i think external factors are more "important" ins haping our history. The recent shift gives the governmnet more bargaining power and whoever has more bargaining power can channel the talks/negotiations to his benifits. |
| noname | Posted
on 07-May-03 05:59 AM
Is there need for another country to broker the peace in NEPAL? Neither parties dealing with it now say 'yes'...(so far I have not read otherwise!). But TOI does not think so. In the editorial dated May 06, they have given view and counterview for role of the US as broker in the ongoing peace process. Although the views are able to encompass aspect of the US as broker, it does not answer the basic question: why are they forwarding this hypothetical agenda? I am copying and pasting one paragraph of both editorials from TOI (May 06) here: "In Nepal, too, any headway towards ending insurgency appears unlikely without Washington pitching in. In fact, Colin Powells visit to Nepal last year, the first in 50 years by a US secretary of state, was welcomed within the country as a sign of American interest in bringing peace to the strife-torn kingdom. Even though there have been periods of relative calm in Sri Lanka and Nepal, both countries are in reality in a state of near civil war. The only pressure groups that can facilitate the much-needed efforts for peace in the region are India and the US. However, Indian involvement would be perceived as New Delhi trying to bully its smaller neighbours. In any case, after the IPKF fiasco and other controversial interventions in the region, there is not much New Delhi can do other than back an international broker. And who better than supercop Washington to do the job of monitoring?" (For full article see: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/cms.dll/html/uncomp/articleshow?msid=45506157) There is counterview against role of US: "As the sole superpower, the US has an obvious interest in insurgency situations, and it is reasonable to expect it to intervene in Nepal and Sri Lanka. Yet, we have to be realistic about the attention it will be able to devote to this region. There are no two ways about it. Sri Lanka and Nepal rank very low in the list of US priorities, which is topped by Iraq and followed by Afghanistan, Palestine, North Korea and, incredible as this might sound, Columbia and the Philippines. " (For full article see: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/cms.dll/html/uncomp/articleshow?msid=45505961) |
| tick | Posted
on 07-May-03 12:09 PM
There is no wonder India wants its puppets to rule Nepal. No matter what, King will not be a puppet of India; India knows that very well. Go figure& |
| noname | Posted
on 02-Jun-03 04:25 PM
Let me add two more editorials from The Times of India in this thread. Two editorials are published on the same day - One supporting democracy and other supporting active monarchy. I have not posted the whole article...those interested please follow the links.l ********* VIEW Democracy is Alive & Well in Nepal [ TUESDAY, JUNE 03, 2003 12:01:17 AM ] Every turn of the political wheel in Nepal is seized upon by the Cassandras to declare the end of democracy. Left to them, the Himalayan kingdom would be precisely that: a kingdom undeserving of representative politics. .... ...... However, the failure of elected representatives does not mean democracy itself has failed. Had it been so, there would have been no opposition to king Gyanendras council of ministers: Such have been the intensity and sweep of protests by the political parties in the last eight months that the king has had to bow to the popular mood. This despite the dismal record of governance of the mainstream parties in the last 12 years. That the people at large have supported the political agitation against the monarchy shows tremendous popular resolve to keep the democratic process going. All democracies are flawed and Nepals democratic experiment is no exception. As the nascent Nepalese democracy matures, the toxins in the polity generated by a self-serving class will be purged along with the anti-democratic forces that thrive on them. Here is the link: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/cms.dll/html/uncomp/articleshow?msid=1993 ******** COUNTERVIEW Monarchy is Answer to Kathmandu's Problems [ TUESDAY, JUNE 03, 2003 12:01:19 AM ] Nepal is a country blessed with breathtaking natural beauty and cursed with corrupt, short-sighted politicians. The arrival of multiparty democracy, far from empowering the common people, has only made their plight worse. ....... ........... Foreign NGOs may start scaling back operations if they feel it is dangerous for staffers to stay in Nepal. And donors too may finally lose patience with the country if they feel they are simply throwing money down the drain, with no positive results to show for it. If Nepal is to pull out of this mess, it urgently needs a period of stability and peace. As things stand, the only institution capable of ensuring that today seems to be the monarchy. So perhaps the only sensible course of action is to scrap the experiment with democracy, and return to a full-fledged monarchy, till Nepal gets back onto its feet. After all, desperate situations call for extreme measures. True, that may be against the international trend towards democracy. But in which other country are Maoists a significant political force? Nepal's plight is unique; its solution too must be indigenous. Here is the link: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/cms.dll/html/uncomp/articleshow?msid=1987 |
| noname | Posted
on 26-Jun-03 04:39 PM
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