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| zero gravity |
Posted
on 18-May-03 10:23 AM
From Nepalnews.com
King's birthday being celebrated
King Gyanendra's 57th birthday will be celebrated for one week beginning July 6, an official announcement said.
Former prime minister Kirtinidhi Bista heads a 557 member national committee to celebrate the birthday, the announcement said.
FIRST, WHY CELEBRATE FOR 1-WEEK? (is this any different from the panchayat days?SECOND, A 557 MEMBER NATIONAL COMMITTEE - OUTRAGIOUS, OUTRAGIOUS. Truly, scare resources are being wasted away in consolidating the royal image.
And other day, I was wondering about how the King was inaugurating the renovated Mayadevi temple with his "cool shades (kalo chasma) on." I find it rather objectionable for the monarch to be inaugurating holy sites with cool shades on - a level of arrogance and insensitiveness. By the same token, in the villages, the bridegroom usually has a cool shade on....was wondering whether the Nepali kings learnt it from the gaunles or vice versa?!!
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| Biswo |
Posted
on 18-May-03 10:30 AM
The photo surprised me because I thought Bhairahawa was pretty hot place, and there everyone was putting on a lot of clothes.May be a formal requirement.
As for king's birthday, and 557 members to celebrate it, it again and again reminds me that we are right where Ranas left us: in 2007. In Seto Bagh, Diamond Shamsher provides some real good moments of public 'chaakari' of Rana Kaal. Hell, nothing has changed.
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| lonely |
Posted
on 19-May-03 12:26 PM
557 rajha bhakta chakari baj haru ko jattha??
jai chakari baaz, BP ko doshi chasma le kaam paula ni, chakari ma kehi kaam po bhai halchha ki??
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| bhenda2 |
Posted
on 19-May-03 01:31 PM
It really pisses me off too...ani Nepal ka Nepali haru ko ghainto ma chai gham lagney ho? sabaiko mukha ma bojo rakhya jasto ...manchey lai bhat khaney paisa chaina Raja bhanaouda ko birthday chai ek hapta manaouney rey...kam na kaj ka...
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| sparsha |
Posted
on 19-May-03 01:53 PM
This is another wahiyat thing we have to read and witness. GBBS's birthday is being celebrated for a week and there is a committee too to coordinate that. Who pays for all this natak? why for a week? True, bhenda2, nagarikharulai bhat khane byabastha chhaina---jindagi euta shrap bhayera din dinai aailagchha---uniharuko janmadin kasle manauchha?
I am not against GBBS celebrating his birthday. I also understand he is the King right now. I don't know who forms these birthday committees but whoever does the king should have voiced against celebrating his birthday in public when the nation is going thru tough time.
The govt. could've given the amount it is going to spend on the king's bithday to that Nuwakot VDC to construct a jholunge pul over a river in its jurisdiction that just recently swept two little girls who were out in search for their parents. This way the king could receive more blessing from the gods and praise from the public. Otherwise, there will be left nothing except to regret--- for those who tend to freeze the time.
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| bhedo |
Posted
on 19-May-03 03:26 PM
Yeah, that is very wrong, but what about the Dasain festival that's like for weeks and weeks? And what about the Tihar? I once told a friend of mine that in Nepal, the Dasain Festival is for a fortnight, and guess what, he literally peed on his pants laughing. Why do we need so many days off? That doesn't make any sense. Long holidays are indeed harmful for a burgeoning country. Just to give you an example of a hard working nation, in Japan, from what I hear, until recently(till people started complaining) people generally worked 10 hrs/day. No wonder it's a highly developed nation. With our indolent mentality, we're always gonna remain poor and desolate.
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| Sadabichar |
Posted
on 19-May-03 04:20 PM
I heard that Japanese works that heard because they think that by working so they are displaying their patriotism.
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| Taxing_Under_Influence |
Posted
on 19-May-03 04:49 PM
---- Former prime minister Kirtinidhi Bista heads a 557 member national committee to celebrate the birthday, the announcement said---
GBBS is making sure that at least 557 of his subjects will celebrate his birthday. As for me I would rather be preparing 557 tax returns on those seven days than celebrating.
Happy Taxing!!
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| Intruder |
Posted
on 19-May-03 06:14 PM
Yes it seems silly, but its really not how it sounds. its not that people will be actually celebrating his birthday for a week, nor the schools or government will be closed to mark the occasion. And 557 members committee will definitely not be actively preparing to celebrate his birthday. Its all about following tradition.
As we all know, his majesty has made an attempt to reinvigorate centuries old forgotten tradition, as it might sound so bad, but it is all part of tradition. Our tradition is our indentity and it ought to be preserved. We are known to the world through our culture and tradition, and if we are to give that up, we might as well not call ourselves Nepali.
I suggest we all should practice little discretion in what we read.
Jai Desh
Jai Naresh
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| Rashmi |
Posted
on 19-May-03 07:01 PM
F**ked up bastards!!! All these people in the committee together with the king need to be buried in the same khalto!! This is totally insane!!!
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| Prem Charo |
Posted
on 19-May-03 08:49 PM
Shri Panch Maharaja Dhiraaj Sarkar Ko Jaya 3 !!!
Jaya Desh
Jaya Naresh.
Rajvakta charo = Prem Charo :)
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| isolated freak |
Posted
on 19-May-03 09:08 PM
Intruder is right in his assertion that this 557 member committee is nothing new. It was like this from before. 557 will be divided for various purposes: 100 for fund-raising and so on.
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| Biswo |
Posted
on 20-May-03 11:40 AM
>100 for fund-raising and so on
Fund raising? In the king's name? It's like Michael Douglus and Zeta Jones asking money for their unborn son's future with those who were invited to their marriage.
I wish these people were doing fund-raising when there was this inferno in one of the eastern districts [Khotang] a few months ago which engulfed a lot of the houses there.
In the name of tradition, what are 'allowables' that should be continued in Royal Palace?
Are they still continuing the tradition of keeping harems? the tradition of keeping stable of slaves from outskirts? The tradition of launching of Urdu-speaking drama in the evening? The tradition of making people eat Kaatto of the dead king?The tradition of marrying incestously which rarely any other Nepali practice? What about the tradition of sending all (dead and captured) rhino's horns to royal palace? How much of these traditions you know to be no longer practiced, my dear old raajbhakta friend, and how many of these tradition you consider to be royal?
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| Taxing_Under_Influence |
Posted
on 20-May-03 11:49 AM
Biswo Ji,
Good posting!!!! I am 100% with you.
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| bhenda2 |
Posted
on 20-May-03 11:52 AM
Biswo Ji you are very right.
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| isolated freak |
Posted
on 20-May-03 12:18 PM
Are they still continuing the tradition of keeping harems? the tradition of keeping stable of slaves from outskirts? The tradition of launching of Urdu-speaking drama in the evening? The tradition of making people eat Kaatto of the dead king?The tradition of marrying incestously which rarely any other Nepali practice? What about the tradition of sending all (dead and captured) rhino's horns to royal palace? How much of these traditions you know to be no longer practiced, my dear old raajbhakta friend, and how many of these tradition you consider to be royal?
Biswo,
Good questions. I don't have answers though.
1. There's no harems.
2. There are no slaves: they are called Rajdarbar sewa ka karmachari.
3. I don't know about what goes on inside the palacee. If youc an watch and proudly discuss about the English and other movies openly, then why can't they watch drama in whatever language they wish for their entertainment?
4. i don't know about the katto tradition.
5.I don't know.
6.some of those horms are at your congressi and communist neta ko ghar too. Khsetri ko shraddha ma gaida ko khur ra singh chahincha. just as you need fool-mala to do pooja. Also, isn't it better to have those sent to the rOyal palace than letting those on the hands of poachers and illicit traders?
7. I don't know how to answer this question, Biswo. But, let me tell you some thing: Every group has its sub-culture.
man, if you are so concerned about all these, why don't you come to nepal and start a movement like Sun Yat Sen did in 1911?
Let me ask you:
Have you ever been inside the Royal palace to see what goes on in there?
If yes, have you seen all those thngs that you raised?
If not,
How do you know that those happen in the palace?
Unless you have dhyan drishti and dibya dristi, how do you know?
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| Biswo |
Posted
on 20-May-03 12:55 PM
>man, if you are so concerned about all these,
> why don't you come to nepal and start a
>movement like Sun Yat Sen did in 1911?
IFji,
We all know that before launching 1911 movement, Sun Yat sen travelled to places like Hongkong(China), and USA.
In what seems to be an eeriely resemblance to his preantimonarchy movement,I too have travelled/am travelling to those places:-)
Now, actually, I am not a politician, nor do I have such ambition.But, I am increasingly convinced that monarchy is anachronistic regime, and that is the reason why the number of nations adopting monarchy is only dwindling.
And only in monarchy it happens that when we ask about their culture and tradition, we are lumped to enemy camps, and challenged to settle score in brute force method.
Democratic, systematic, theoretical challenge to monarchy and its tradition is not allowables, not in Nepal. With such rigid, binary system of decision making, no wonder monarchies all around the world are themselves faced with two choices: to exist or to be obliterated.
>Let me ask you:
>Have you ever been inside the Royal palace
> to see what goes on in there? If yes, have
>you seen all those thngs that you raised?
Here is a surprise answer: yes, I have been inside the royal palace.
Now, to go to next answer, yes, I have [surrogately by media] seen Bahuns eating Katto of kings. Yes, I have been told expressly by an officer with Chitwan National Park that the captured rhino horns go to Royal Palace.As for the rest, we know from the history books that there were abominable traditions that royal palace proudly upheld.
Now, as for your assertions that I have to be in royal palace to know what is going on there, it is naive, and misleading, laopengyou.
For example, We are celebrating 50th ascent of Mt Everest later this month. Do you buy thatNorgey-Hillary duo were atop the Mt Everest that day? You were not there, next to them a few meter down from them to watch them plant the flags, and celebrate the first ascent of humanity, were you?
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Again, finally, my question was not actually whether they still practice such customs in royal palace, but to point to some abhorrable traditions that the royal palace was observing in the past, which would be unsuitable now to continue with. I was pointing to the fact that not all traditions are worth keeping, and Maharaj's birthday bash and 'fund raising' for that are worthless extravaganza that the nation can do without.
Amen.
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| Biswo |
Posted
on 20-May-03 01:46 PM
In one more 'yes' to my questions:
About incestous marriage in royal family. I asked the question because what I have heard is Maharaj Gyanendra and Maharani Komal are both gradchildren of Sri 3 Maharaj Juddha Shamsher, and it made me curious about grand royal traditions.
Now, whether you know this or not, this is something rarely happens in the rest of Nepali communities, esp among Hindus, whose dharma his majesty is said to uphold with the highest authority invested in him by god.
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| boston_dude |
Posted
on 20-May-03 02:03 PM
The king celebrates his birthday in this manner for many reasons.... most of which are bad. First and foremost, I think it is a political/PR move. Such celebrations indirectly tell his friends and foes who the real boss is. It makes his opponents realize that they are miniscule compared to the king.
Secondly, the king is in need of some good PR. A good PR never hurts a king, and this one needs it pretty bad. To him, this is free advert. Repeat this sort of "celebration" enough number of times... for himself, for his son... blah blah blah... and pretty soon, most people will think that the king is great and the crownprince is an honorable man.
Third, this is probably a big boost for his ego. We all want a big party, and I guess he feels he is entitled to it.
Last but not least, it gives him a chance to see who his "chamches" are and it also gives his chamches a chance to demonstrate to the king who they are. The real power of the king (other than RNA) comes from the ever increasing number of such chames. The more "chakadi" these chames demonstrate, the more powerful king becomes. Remember, power is all about perception. Pretty soon, the king does not even have to say what he wants. His chakadis will figure it out, plan and execute it for him. This is how the palace works, and perhaps even this grand celebration is/was an idea put forth by such a chamche.
Regardless, it is an absolute shame that the king does this in a country where many don't even celebrate thier birthday, and where many sleep on empty stomachs many adays.
B_D.
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| boston_dude |
Posted
on 20-May-03 02:05 PM
ooooops... "chamches" not "chames".
B_D.
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| Nepe |
Posted
on 20-May-03 02:25 PM
B_D,
Wah ! What a candid analysis !
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| isolated freak |
Posted
on 20-May-03 07:45 PM
Now, as for your assertions that I have to be in royal palace to know what is going on there, it is naive, and misleading, laopengyou.
Biswo,
Good, ah! lucky yoiu.. I haven't been inside the Palace yet.
Anyway, just as you found my questions naive, I found your's no different. HISTORY is past. And book are full of biases. So, I wouldn't just rely on history books or novels, like seto bagh to say what goes on today inside the palace. Don't tell me you raed the Mughal history or the Arabian Nights stories, and based on those, you figured out all taht you wrote earlier.. or wait is it because of the Bhanda-For types that weee published by the Congressis and the Commies immediately following the 1990 event?
lao pengyou, wo bu XIN ni xie de, hao xianng ni ye bu XIN wo de.:-)
zai jian!
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