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| San |
Posted
on 21-May-03 08:06 AM
Student moves irks missionary schools
Hours after the All Nepal National Independent Students' Union (revolutionary) locked the account section of over two dozen schools in the valley, Principal of St. Xavier's School, one of the oldest educational institution in Nepal warned Tuesday that all the missionary schools in Nepal could opt for permanent closure if the Maoist students continued with their pressure tactics, published reports said.
"We would as well leave the country and close the school if the people here do not want us," Father Lawrence Maniyar said. He said before taking such a major decision he would wait and see how the government and the Maoist student body would react to his statement. There are a total of 19 schools being run under the Christian missionary in Nepal at the moment.
The ANNFISU has been claiming that the boarding schools including St. Xavier's and St. Mary's have not been heeding its demands. nepalnews.com am May 21
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| sparsha |
Posted
on 21-May-03 08:19 AM
Yeah! this is the democracy of Nepal. This what sovereign people want. Close down all the schools, pick some guns and shoot down all those who seem to differ, loot people's hard earned money and run the sysytem with terror and claim "people's movement"--for the people by the people and whatever nonsense.
We got gew other damn so-called leaders of democracy who are busy leading another "jana andolan"---punarshthapana garne rey..ke punarsthapana garne? paila bhako ta bachauna paryo ni---so wo don't have to reinstall it----sadhai hami chahi khali punarsthapani matrai gari rahane? sthapana chahi kalle gardinchha ni?
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| San |
Posted
on 21-May-03 09:27 AM
This is definitely sad state of affairs. It is very disheartening to hear that the people who have made it their mission to create manpower for Nepal to aid its development are considering closing down their schools and leaving for good.
If they were in Nepal to run their business or make money then the government or other organizations can make demands. But, they are there to help Nepal - to educate it's people - to help develop the country. They are doing their job well in educating thousands of students so far, it is totally unfair to impose political pressure on them.
If ANNFISU cares about Nepal and Nepalis, they need to reconsider their stance on pressurizing missionary schools. Nepal does not have a great educational system and we don't even have enough resource for this. In spite of that, we can't even make these missionaries feel wanted in our country, who make it their mission in life to help us out.
ANNFISU needs to give them a break.
"The ANNFISU has been claiming that the boarding schools including St. Xavier's and St. Mary's have not been heeding its demands"
I am curious to know what their demands are and if the demands are reasonable. If anyone knows please share.
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| Biswo |
Posted
on 21-May-03 10:45 AM
>We got gew other damn so-called leaders of
>democracy who are busy leading another
> "jana andolan"---
It surprises me , Sparshaji, that you are blaming the parliamentarian leaders for everything, I mean for everything, and this provides an excellent example of how deep your bitterness runs, without any evidential backup. For your information, this is being done by Maoist student, and I guess you were the one who was claiming things are peaceful and everything is fine and dandy once Gyanendra made peace with these Maoists.
Look, there is not peace, it is not peace. You read local news of Kantipur and that page is full of extortion, kidnapping, killing kinda news. Because both power , king and Maoist, are evil, they have no public support, that is why their interest converge, and that is why they are playing this drama of peace. Beneath, they are still terrorizing people. UML and NC and other constitutional parties can't be blamed for this.
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| czar |
Posted
on 21-May-03 11:17 AM
I'd say, Rev Maniyar sell the properties while you still can get some sort of value for it, pack your bags and walk out. There is no point in waiting to hit rock botton.
As consumers of the education system, students are well placed to evaluate issues that affect them directly and have every right to contribute towards building a better system. The operational word here is 'contribute.' Not dictate.
They are hardly qualified, as students themselves, to be arbitrers of the composition and quality of the educational system. In that they have taken the initiative and seem to be in the driver's seat at this time indicates both a failure of the system as well as politicization of education.
On reading the the interviews of the educational heavyweights in Nepalnews, in which it is argued that the state, not market forces, should dictate how things work. I was under the illusion that market forces were part and parcel of the forces unleashed by democracy. I don't know that parts of democracy can be cherry picked.
Every political party has used students in pursuits of their own ends, shamelessly so. The Indian experience is what these people draw on and it is an unmitigated disaster for Nepal. In the end, everyone will contribute to destroy the place. There's not a man among them that have what it takes to build a damn thing.
I say, might as well finish what they started. To that end, closing down schools is a great move. Ultimately, turn the country into a desolate wasteland. The maoists can then triumphantly rule over a nation of starving illiterates.
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| Koko |
Posted
on 21-May-03 11:27 AM
I am sick and tired of these Bastard of Politicians meddling with our Educational systems. How the hell are we supposed to progress if kids keep walking out of classes ? These stoooopid Idiotic morons(also so called politicians) do not seem to get this in their thick Skulled heads. There must be someone directing these kids(kids don't just walk out like that). This needs to be addressed promptly and seriously...How the fk are we supposed to progress if these fkers keep hindering our path of progress....I am sooo fking frustrated by this news...This is total bull
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| sparsha |
Posted
on 21-May-03 11:47 AM
" For your information, this is being done by Maoist student, and I guess you were the one who was claiming things are peaceful and everything is fine and dandy once Gyanendra made peace with these Maoists. "
Thanks for the informartion, Biswoji, but I am already aware that the threat is called by the Maoist students. Excellent uncorrupt and exemplery people such as GPK and MaKuNe has no other target than GBBS. Whatever Maoists do, they can't counter. They can't say "stop" to Maoist students. They don't have to. They have no responsibility to check Maoists student. I got your point. Bravo!
Comapring today with yesterday (before maoists came to the table), I would say there is peace in the nation.
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| Biswo |
Posted
on 21-May-03 12:02 PM
>Whatever Maoists do, they can't counter
For your information, most of the people killed by Maoists are NC and UML, and they were the one fighting against Maoist, when royal insiders were abetting the terrorists.
Again, my question is , why are you blaming NC and UML here? Hello? You need to target the culprits. Bringing their name everywhere is irrelavant. Please have guts to target the ANNFSU(revolutionary) and the government who is supposed to provide security. Now that you think there is peace now, what is stopping the government to provide security to the schools?
>Comapring today with yesterday (before maoists
>came to the table), I would say there is peace in
>the nation.
Please, let me know the parameters of comparison.
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| sparsha |
Posted
on 21-May-03 12:18 PM
Biswoji,
Again, my question is , why are you blaming NC and UML here? Hello? You need to target the culprits. Bringing their name everywhere is irrelavant. Please have guts to target the ANNFSU(revolutionary) and the government who is supposed to provide security.
I don't honor your claim that bringing thier name (NC & UML) is irrelevant. Your comment appears to be irrelevant to me. NC and UML also has responsibility, in my opinion, to counter ANNFSU(revolutionary), no matter what you claim. Have guts? I am regularly denouncing the stupid acts of maoists and their sister/brother/cousin organizations. Don't you read?
Ok, let me get back to work now. I will come back later to respond if you comment on my views.
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| DWI |
Posted
on 21-May-03 12:35 PM
Biswo
I was taken aback by your statement >> when royal insiders were abetting the terrorists.
Don't call me a 'Rajabadi' but I have hard time digesting this accusation. Regardless of the truth behind, it just seems like a perfect example of mudslinging.
Wasn't expecting that from you.
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| allare |
Posted
on 21-May-03 01:52 PM
[You read local news of Kantipur and that page is full of extortion, kidnapping, killing kinda news. Because both power , king and Maoist, are evil, they have no public support, that is why their interest converge, and that is why they are playing this drama of peace. ]
Biswo, which news paper do you read? please lets us know, so that we can be also aware of whats happening in Nepal without being biased. What do you mean by public support? Are the follower of UML and NC are only public? please clarify.
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| Biswo |
Posted
on 21-May-03 01:55 PM
>Regardless of the truth behind, it just
> seems like a perfect example of mudslinging.
DWI, how can regardless of the truth behind it, it sounds like perfect mudslinging? If there is truth behind it, it is not mudslinging.
Let me cite one example: Didn't comrade Bhattarai proclaimed that he had 'karyagat ekata' [executive unity] with the king Birendra? I am yet to hear the refutation of that statement from royal palace.
Prabhakar Shamsher Rana, the alter ego of present king, had once said in one interview [probably in Spotlight] that he had good acquaintance with Babu Ram Bhattarai thanks due to Rishikesh Shah, and Rishikesh Shah had claimed a lot of times that Babu Ram used to hang around in his house during the emergency. Dhirendra Shah and Ramesh Nath Pandey , if I remember correctly, didn't refute the charges that they met with the Maoists supremos. I am sure they didn't meet to slug it out in Rolpa, there was some thing of mutual interest.
Having said that, I don't believe that rank and file Maoists are dying because of palace encouragement. What I meant is this: palace was, at best, ambivalent about containing the insurgency for a long time. Project that ambivalence to a binary situation where you can either support or oppose the Maoist, you get the perfect conclusion.
Thanks for your comment.
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And Sparshaji,
Girija is supported by UML, Majdur Kishan Party, Sanyukta Janamorcha etc rightnow in their jana andolan, in fact, he is some kind of supreme leader of this movement, and UML supremo Madhav Nepal had termed CIAA action a revengeful action. Don't you read newspapers?
If you want to blame NC, UML for everything, fine and go ahead. If you can convince people from your argument, good luck.
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| Biswo |
Posted
on 21-May-03 01:57 PM
OK, allare.
I cited Kantipur.
And the public is more than NC and UML. It is also made of other parties. Please consult the election commission record of votes each parties got in last several election. That is the last recorded public opinion. If I remember correctly, NC, UML, Sadvabana, RPP, Majdur Kisan, Sayukta Janamorcha etc were the one who had won public confidence in the past.
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| allare |
Posted
on 21-May-03 02:19 PM
[I cited Kantipur.
And the public is more than NC and UML. It is also made of other parties. Please consult the election commission record of votes each parties got in last several election. That is the last recorded public opinion. If I remember correctly, NC, UML, Sadvabana, RPP, Majdur Kisan, Sayukta Janamorcha etc were the one who had won public confidence in the past. ]
If you also read kantipur then how come your awarness and our(atleast mine) is different in same issue. Thanks god that you do not read Nispakhachhya weekly magzine published in nepalnews.com. I recommend you to read that once.
Do you know that before 2046, these parties has no single vote in parliament.. so while giving example keep in the mind about the context. The time when these party secure that vote and in present has long gap.
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| Biswo |
Posted
on 21-May-03 02:33 PM
>Do you know that before 2046, these parties has no single vote in parliament..
That's not correct.
Before 2046 parties are not allowed to contest in their name during Panchayat rule. So look at the record of the last election in which parties contested in their own name. There you will get the requisite record.
The fair multiparty election that happened before was in 2015. And I urge you to consult at that if you wish to.
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| allare |
Posted
on 22-May-03 12:44 AM
[Before 2046 parties are not allowed to contest in their name during Panchayat rule. So look at the record of the last election in which parties contested in their own name. There you will get the requisite record. ]
Biswo, you got the point, but not totally. Even in panchayati area, NC and then ML used to contents the election, though not direclty in name of NC and ML, but people used to know that they were people of these party.
At that, do not people use to participate in voting? were not those fair election?
[The fair multiparty election that happened before was in 2015. And I urge you to consult at that if you wish to.]
Again, you are right, but why could not NC got same success as in 2015? and repeat the success of first election after 2046 to following election? Are you getting my point? If not let me tell you that I was also great supporter of NC and casted my vote to NC, but won't do any more. Things are changing so you can not take guarente of yesterdays success in present scenario. Wake up biswo and try to analyse the current scenario and get over from hang of 2015 sucess. If you can not get over from hang of dreaming then its useless to discuss.
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| Biswo |
Posted
on 22-May-03 01:11 AM
Allare, see you are contradicting yourself:
>Do you know that before 2046, these parties has no single vote in parliament..
Then you say:
>Even in panchayati area, NC and then ML
>used to contents the election, though not
> direclty in name of NC and ML, but people
> used to know that they were people of
>these party.
Now, even if I agree with your arguments, isn't it wrong to say 'these parties has no single vote in parliament..?'
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| allare |
Posted
on 22-May-03 01:19 AM
Yeap biswo, Its wrong to say that these parties has no single vote in parliament at that time. And i am happy that you found contradition in my statement. Sometime to get realise something true (while other guy is pretending), its good to start from wrong statement.
So, now you agree that things are changing and NC, UML have not same power as before and public like us who were supporter of these party yesterday are not any more behind them.
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| Biswo |
Posted
on 22-May-03 01:28 AM
>Sometime to get realise something true
>(while other guy is pretending), its good
>to start from wrong statement.
Huh.
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| DWI |
Posted
on 22-May-03 04:35 AM
Biswo
I knew you would catch on that statement and I appreciate the justfications you now provoided to support your claims. The statement, as it stood previously, was a bit harsh and hard to chew on. Without any supporting argument (you might have discussed it earlier in other posts which I didn't read), it appeared as just another bullet train coming out of the channel of grievances against the present king.
The fact that Prabhakar had a good aquaintance with Baburam is by no means an argument that Maoists were being abetted. As far as Rishi Kesh is concerned, you are familiar with his last controversial statement. He had a good rapport with the palace, but remember he is the one who once said that King Mahendra gave Kalapani to India just to have a good relationship with them. To blame the palace policy for late Rishikesh's acquaintences is nothing less than a nasty mudslinging.
Lastly, as far as the binary choices you presented are concern, if every decisions made and every actions taken in life were either true or false, pro or against, then it would be too easy to figure out, wouldn't it? But I might have to agree with you if you insist on narrowing down the conclusions.
Good discussion.
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| sparsha |
Posted
on 22-May-03 07:11 AM
"Girija is supported by UML, Majdur Kishan Party, Sanyukta Janamorcha etc rightnow in their jana andolan, in fact, he is some kind of supreme leader of this movement, and UML supremo Madhav Nepal had termed CIAA action a revengeful action. Don't you read newspapers?
If you want to blame NC, UML for everything, fine and go ahead. If you can convince people from your argument, good luck. "
Biswo ji, I did not know GPK is , in fact, some kind of supreme leader of this movement. So, he is indireclty or directly whatever you choose is the supreme leader-of UML, NMKP, SJM. Great news. We will see about this later who is supreme leader. I don't follow him and he is not my leader-personally this much I can say.
"UML supremo Madhav Nepal had termed CIAA action a revengeful action."
Did you read somewhere "UML supremo Madhav Nepal DID NOT term CIAA action a revengeful action" ? and you thought it was me who wrote that? We are talking about GPK not MAKUNE here. Chandra Man Sambhahamphe says CIAA action is rightfully justified and GPK should be hanged. Now what do you say? Don't deviate from the point.
"Don't you read newspapers?"
Which one? "kangresi mukhapatra?". I don't, if this is what you are referring to.
One other point I wanted to raise is already raised by DWI. So, I don't want to get into that.
GPK is the supreme leader! Ok this amused me a lot but I am not surprised. cuz I know, for krisna pranami -Krishna is the GOD, for Ram follower Ram is the God, for shaiva people Shiva is the GOD, for Christians Christ is the GOD.
I come to this site to express my views. "If you can convince people from your argument, good luck. " I am not here to convince people. Are you? if you are then in my case you have failed.
I have denounced acts (I consider against the interest of people and the nation) of GBBS, GPK, MAKUNE, MAOBADIS and others. I don't come here to sing a bhakti sangeet.
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| allare |
Posted
on 22-May-03 07:13 AM
Biswo, its not late to realise the true things. anyway, somewhere in this thread, you claimed that UML is giving great support to GPK. I think, you also know that Jandharana paper is runned by communist close to UML. Please read this what they have to say about GPK.
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| sparsha |
Posted
on 22-May-03 07:21 AM
Allare,
Looks like "GPK is our bos. He is our supreme leader" part somehow didn't make it in this piece. May be composer made an error.
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| allare |
Posted
on 22-May-03 07:28 AM
[Looks like "GPK is our bos. He is our supreme leader" part somehow didn't make it in this piece. May be composer made an error]
I did not get you sparsh ?
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| sparsha |
Posted
on 22-May-03 07:35 AM
Allare,
The whole world knows (except for some ignorant people like me) that GPK is the supreme leader of Nepal's on going "jana andolan" [for verification, please refer to Biswoji's comment above]. Then, how come the piece you posted had a different tone? the piece should have written "GPK is our boss, he is the supreme leader" tara I didn't see that. Perhaps tyo piece (the one you posted above) ko shrot pani ma jastai patrika napadhne paryo hola.
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| playa_from_himalaya |
Posted
on 22-May-03 08:06 AM
Could we keep some threads out of polictics pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
I am sick n tried of seeing GPK, MKN or GBBS in every thread. And you, NN, AKA sparsha, if youhave something to say to them then why don't you go back to Nepal and do something or raise you voice there. By our efforts, now you too have freedom of speech in Nepal.
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| sparsha |
Posted
on 22-May-03 08:18 AM
Playa_from_himalaya,
so far I was having a good impression of you and AL has a lot to do with it. I also understand and agree it's not fun to see GBBS, MKN, and GPK everywhere. Now I am really suprised to read *NN "AKA" sparsha from you*. What's the point of AKA here? Also, I am quite sad to read "By our efforts, now you too have freedom of speech in Nepal. " I was not expecting to read such words from you. I was about to send you a personal email regarding AL days but I guess that won't be necessary.
That's ok, though. At least you expressed your feeling toward me and made me aware. I, however, have no negative feelings against you.
Good day.
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| playa_from_himalaya |
Posted
on 22-May-03 08:54 AM
Sparsha,
NO hard feelings . I make my day every morning with sajha and for past few days it's been just the opposite. I expect to share some good thing here among Napalis in this site. Now every thread is politicalized. I am not saying that is not neccessery or by any means I am not concerned, but lets do that in a related topics. I am already upset that my school is being closed down so I am egear to check out updates every moment and all I get is GPK??GPK?? I hope you understand my frustration here. As far as good ole days from Alabama,I am ready to talk about it anytime. I don't know about you, but I have several ole friends here with me that we crack out memories about those good ole days every weekend.
As I mentioned earlier too, No hard feels and I just poured out my frustration. I also understand your frustration that You are now discloused to me but I am not.
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| SITARA |
Posted
on 22-May-03 09:32 AM
I am appalled and yet, amazed at the same time to see the systematic disintegration of the education system in Nepal. Consider the Maoist agenda....the "mis-education" of the illiterate and now the repression/control of the education system itself. This has nothing to do with uncooperative schools but rather a deliberate unfolding of a grand scheme. Education/systems have been exploited as a means of control over the current as well as future school-going population. Are we driven back to the dark ages of the "Ranarchy" ... where education was a privilege of the priviledged few!!!!
It would be a terrible loss if we lose St. Xavier's or St. Mary's (Lord forbid!). Infact, during my visit to KTM, I was pleasantly surprised to hear that SXS has a co-ed programme. And, with a academically strong college to boot, SXS would certainly pose a threat to any organization desiring to suppress the intellectual growth of the general public.
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| sparsha |
Posted
on 22-May-03 09:35 AM
Playa_from_himalaya,
I already shared your frustration. Statement such as this " By our efforts, now you too have freedom of speech in Nepal. " bothered me.
"I also understand your frustration that You are now discloused to me but I am not. "
Actually I am not too concerned on who you are. You are also from ALabama the beautiful -this is good enough for me. I was glad to share Guntersville, Boaz, jhari gau with you. I think if I try enough I may find out who you are. But I am not into that right now. Once we communicate, I will know. When you mentioned Gold Kist, I remembered many surgens (white over coat, gloves, knife, white hair cover...my god!).
It's been a while since I spoke with BS in LA (I used to). I also spoke with RMD in ATL few months back. Here I speak with RB once in a while and we always love to talk about AL.
I don't remember having rough time with anyone in AL. So, when I sensed negative sentiment in your post toward me-that sadly surprised me. However, like I said I have no negative sentiment toward you. I am glad that you have no hard feelings either.
Can you please give me some initials of those guys you are with in there? [if they know me, please convey my regards].
P.S. I am also worried about Maoist students causing trouble in education sector [ St. Xavier is an example]. I was really angry. That's why I reponded they way I did. I don't enjoy talking about GPK. Seriously.
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| DWI |
Posted
on 22-May-03 09:49 AM
Kulo ra Kuro jata tira lagyo tyatai tira laagchha.
I don't think it is wrong at all that the thread took a political turn. We can always revive the original conversation as Sitara just did. As for me I was just slighly appaled my Biswo's comment and thus reacted.
As far as the closing of these institution is concerned, no educated person would in his right mind would support the idea (I said right mind too, so count those dharma-netas out). I can understand Father Maniyar's frustation with ongoing student's pressure on these campuses. Students do commit wrong action, as evidenced by the TU Bsc (Phsyics) kanda just yesterday. But somewhere I feel Father Maniyar's decision to come out and publicly criticize might not be a good calculated movement. This drags the missionary institutions into the mainstream controversy. Now they are on a cross-hair of the oppositions and let's hope no religious outburst results from this. I hope a calm and collected solution will be reached. These institutions have established some benchmarks for academic excellency and descipline and to find a quick replacement is tough.
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| ashu |
Posted
on 22-May-03 10:10 AM
From what I have gathered from various sources:
The kranti-kari students have made it clear to St. Xavier's that they have NOTHING against the school per se.
But because STX is a school with influence, they figure that they can get the government pay attention to their demands ONLY by dramatically pushing for
a (temporary) closure of STX and its peer schools.
In others words, as far as these kranti-kari students are concerned, closing off STX and other peer schools is the their way of getting their message across to the governmet to reduce tuition fees in Kathmandu's private schools.
Why exactly on earth would leftist, radical students protest against rising tuition fees
in, of all places, private schools is beyond my understanding. I mean, I would have expected them to create halla-khalla about the deplorable state of education in state-supported schools, but never mind.
The GAA is about to put out a notice offering to mediate, if need be, between the Krantikari students and STX . . . and basically urging the Krantikari students to NOT make STX and others schools mere arrows with which to hit the government.
Finally, for the record, contrary to popular belief, STX remains -- as it was through the 60s, 70s, 80s and the 90s - one of the LEAST EXPENSIVE schools in Kathmandu, educating kids who came/have come to the Kathmandu Valley from all over Nepal.
Just because STX has NEVER self-consciously proclaimed itself as a national school of any kind does NOT mean that the school caters only to the Kathmandu ka raithanays.
oohi
ashu
ktm,nepal
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| mirador |
Posted
on 22-May-03 12:53 PM
>>I mean, I would have expected them to create halla-khalla about the deplorable state >>of education in state-supported schools, but never mind.
Ashu, I think the Maoists think that the rich beurocrats think that they can get away with admitting their kid to some rich-kids-only private school without giving a shingle to public schools. I thoght the private schools were just minding the gap between supply and demand. Even with thousands of private schools, public schools are still very crowded. Revolutionary economics would never accept that, of course.
>>Just because STX has NEVER self-consciously proclaimed itself as a national school of >>any kind does NOT mean that the school caters only to the Kathmandu ka raithanays.
Actually it does. The overwhelming majority of students to attend STX are from the valley. Lets keep the facts straight. Still, that's no reason for some students to terrorize other students.
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| Biswo |
Posted
on 22-May-03 01:10 PM
>you claimed that UML is giving great
>support to GPK. I think, you also know
>that Jandharana paper is runned by
>communist close to UML. Please read this
> what they have to say about GPK.
Allare, I "normally" don't read papers like Janadharana or even Dristi. I don't know who runs those papers. I listen to what Madhav Nepal says to understand UML's official policy, and I don't read what his chamchas are saying or writing, because that is not feasible given my limited time.
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Of course, playa_from_himalaya is right in saying that there are some places where politics is best not involved. It has been my question regularly that I don't see how NC and UML are culpable in this issue about St Xaviers? Why should they be dragged as culprits here?
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I surely hope that this issue will be resolved. I buy ashu's claim that that school is attacked for its potential in creating publicity.
Now, why would Maoists be interested in lowering fee in private schools? Well, all they need is pretext to run their assembly line of protest programs. What better target than timorous, confused, prepubescent school going children?
And even Mao knew this. His support was among students. They basically killed his bete noir Liu Shao Qi, almost all schools in China were closed during the so called great cultural revolution, and the students were the one who apotheosized him. Who can follow Mao best? His anachronistic followers in his neighboring country.
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| Poonte |
Posted
on 23-May-03 08:11 AM
Ashu is right on pointing out that that they [the "Krantkaaris"] should focus on making halla-khalla about the deplorable state of public schools rather than go after the exorbitant fees of the private schools.
I personally believe that the tuition fees in private schools are set by the market: they are as rediculously high as they are simply because there are consumers willing to pay as much. Consumers who have not even an inch of hope in public schools, may I add.
Now, I too agree that bringing down the tuition fees in private schools would be nice; however, trying to go about achieving that goal by attacking the private schools themselves is misguided. The proper and effective way would be to put pressure on the government to improve the state of public schools--have the government make public schools attractive enough for the consumers so the majority of them would stop sending their kids to private schools--and if then the fees in private schools do not go down dramatically because of lack of demand, then have the Krantikaaris come and put TAALCHAA on my bedroom door.
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| ruck |
Posted
on 23-May-03 08:15 AM
Poo Dai.. you said it....
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