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| isolated freak |
Posted
on 29-May-03 11:59 AM
parmendra,
Since that thread is more about mountainnering,m i decided to post my reply on your question here:
IF --- ever pondered upon the "Ram Janambhoomi" in Ayodhya?
To be honest, no. The Ramjanmabhumi and Krishnajanmabhumi etc. are created myths without any historic/archaeological evidence, and unless they find/unearth something like they did in Lumbini, I remain a skeptic. Come on, since there is no historic/archaeological evidence to prove that there even existed a person named Ram in Satyayug, why worry about his ghar and sasural? Someone in india wrote about it 1500-2000 years ago and gave it a religious/spiritual touch here and there and its ramayana.
Also, if they have some hard proof to prove that ayodhya was indeed the place where Ram was born, then, it would probably be the oldest historical/cultural finding of/in India, because if we go by the scriptures, the whole incident took place in satya-yug and that is ... what.. more than 500000+ years ago!
See, as a person who grew up with lots of books on Hindusim and discussing archaeology and religion over dinner, i say, there never existed someone called ram. And Ram's concept got added in Hindusim not even 2000 years ago. And was added to explain the evolution theory. The HIndu saints somehow understood the whole evolution 1500-2000 years before Darwin, but given the situation then, they decided to code it. Here's a verse:
matsya kurma barahascha nrisimho bamanastatha
Rama Ramayo Ramascha Buddha kalki tathai Bacha
now, here's decoding that:
matsya (aquatic animals)
Kurma (amphibians)
Barahascha (apes/primates)
Nrisimho (australopithecines/homo habilis: thev fact that narsimha uses his finger nails to kill hiranyakasyapu raxyas says that by then--the time of narsimha--cranial capacities of animals were getting bigger and as a result, there was a hand-brain co-ordination)
Baman (homo erectus/neanderthal)
Ram and Parshuram (Warfare etc. so, have to be archaic homo sapiens)
Then
Ramscha or Krishna (Homo Sapiens): Civilizations and domistication of animals and agriculture.
Buddha (Homo Spaiens-Sapiens)
Kalki ... George Bush!!
see, that's the HIndu wisdom.
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| oys_chill |
Posted
on 29-May-03 12:23 PM
To be honest, no. The Ramjanmabhumi and Krishnajanmabhumi etc. are created myths without any historic/archaeological evidence, and unless they find/unearth something like they did in Lumbini, I remain a skeptic
duhhh! you need archeological evidence for ram and krishna, yet you don't need any EVIDENCE for the spiritual dilemma !! :) so where's the evidence, are u just plainly ignoring me???
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| isolated freak |
Posted
on 29-May-03 12:29 PM
dude, i have the evidnce for that, real photographic, but after reading the acrobat file you sent me, i am thinking like yoiur prof and more and more getting convinced that it has to do something with the "evidence" production.
but, i'll definately email you the "evidence" or "something else" soon.
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| DWI |
Posted
on 29-May-03 12:31 PM
I second you, Isolated.
Most of these matters are either a result of misinterpretation (like praising Buddha as a God) or a hollow belief. Inadequate reasonings and a cunning inention of self superiority are also the culprits.
But I cannot outrightly reject the very existence of a person named Ram(a human) and Dasaratha. I won't completely believe until hard findings are unearthed; but can't reject the notion either. May be..may be not.
I was actually impressed by your interpretation of the verse. Again, it could be a coincidence or it could actually be what you are claiming. Not each of the interpretations you presented match in exact frame, but nevertheless, I am beginning to believe that we indeed were in the right track thousands of years ago.
Good reply, as expected.
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| isolated freak |
Posted
on 29-May-03 12:41 PM
yeah, the right/exact equivaklent is hard to find after matsya and kurma. but, i think, that's the closest they could get then. So, exact and accurate comparision is impossible between what was qritten 1500-200 years ago and the archaeological discoveries of the 20th century.. but we were pretty close, hoina?
Also, thanks for your kind remarks.
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