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| rook |
Posted
on 29-May-03 05:52 PM
Sir Edmund Hillary has been awarded Nepali citizenship for climbing Everest after 50 years. Recently there was an article about the Jesuits at St. Xavier and St. Mary's. Haven't they done as much. Don't they also merit Nepali Citizenship? There should be a reward for athletics as well as a reward for intellectual pursuits. Where is the equality?
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| Gurl_Interrupted |
Posted
on 29-May-03 06:34 PM
Be a voice rook! let the people who should be aware & need to be reminded 'bout this fact know 'bout ur thoughts! Best wishes!
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| ashu |
Posted
on 29-May-03 06:35 PM
The Nepali state is insanely touchy about citizenship issues.
That is why, its awarding an honorary citizenship to Hillary is a step in the right direction. If I am NOT mistaken, Hillary's Nepali citizenship is the first of its kind ever . . . at least, the door is open now, and could only get wider in coming years. Usually, on matter like this, small, small victories are easier to achieve and to build up on than to wish for a bold, sweeping change (in citizenship rules and regulations).
On another note, given how much demand there is for Nepali citizenship (among long-term Kathmandu expats and people near the Indo-Nepal borders), I suggest that the Nepali government carry out an annual Diversity Visa Lottery for those who wish to reside in Nepal as permanent residents or citizens.
Think about it: DV-Lottery for Nepali permanent residency!!
oohi
ashu
ktm,nepal
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| ruck |
Posted
on 29-May-03 06:38 PM
Ashu.. :-)
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| rook |
Posted
on 29-May-03 06:46 PM
Ashu, I like your idea. Reciprocity is fair play.
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| Bhunte |
Posted
on 29-May-03 06:48 PM
Ashu,
Do you think Nepal can afford/sustain nepali DV-Lottery?
bhunte
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| ashu |
Posted
on 29-May-03 07:10 PM
Bhunte,
I think it's up to the state to work out the logistics.
Obviously, the process needs to be clear and transparent.
Still, as things stand presently, we all know that there are always scandals and various crimes breaking out over citizenship issues all the time in Nepal --and the state by and large remains helpless to reduce these citizenship-related crimes and scandals.
And that's not good.
Going by the numbers reported in the press alone, it's clear that for many people, Nepali citizenship cards are highly prized (i.e. there's a big unmet demand for them), and these people are willing to resort to any means to get those citizenship cards or at least try to stay in Nepal illegally for a long time. Everyone loses in this scenario.
Against this light, conceptually, at least, a lottery will:
a) increase the legal SUPPLY of ' PermanR/citizenship cards' to those who want it, are qualified and are randomly lucky enough to win the cards.
b) reduce everyone's incentives to engage in citizenship-related criminal/illegal behaviour.
c) bring in additional revenue for the government from those who win and complete the application process.
d) help diversify Nepal's population all the more.
oohi
"proud of my Nepali citizenship which I think should stand for tolerance, acceptance and diversity in this changing times and NOT exclusivity based on outdated criteria "
ashu
ktm,nepal
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| Bhunte |
Posted
on 29-May-03 08:09 PM
Ashu,
Due to open border policy the problem of illegal immigrant primarily from India is still there. A lot of people from rural Nepal are also benefiting from this policy as well.
Your idea of nepali dv lottery may not be so pragmatic. The concept of DV lottery in the states is primarily for the blue-collared jobs. And, the United States has a shortatge of labors for it. In the case of Nepal where there is already high unemployment rate, we won't be able to offer PR/CZN for people from abroad. However, they can be offered SELECTIVELY to a highly qualified people, for example those who can substantially invest in the country (e.g., industriallists, hoteliers, etc.) and generate employment opportunities to Nepalis, or to scientiests/experts from overseas who can inject new ideas, etc. The investment amount should not be less than a couple of Korer rupiya... In the past I have read/heard from our past political leaders who have been asking during their overseas visit for a foreign investment in the country. But who will invest in the country where there is no sound legal, physical and institutional infrastructure sufficient enough to attract them? To avoid some of the legal and institutional shortcomings, offering PR/Citizenship may attract them and would perpetuate their investments. Just an example, a lot of European and Japanese investors bring the capital into USA and have propelled economic growth....
I like your idea of diversifying people in Nepal...
bhunte
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| qallu |
Posted
on 29-May-03 08:13 PM
It's a nice enough idea, but Diversity Visa does not work that well for America, so why would it for Nepal? Diversity is great if it occurs as a natural process of a society's evolution, otherwise this sort of social engineering that has been initiated in the US, without adequate support and safety net to ensure the new immigrant's acculturation and success in the new land and as well as without first taking care of its existing citizens, is not something I would recommend Nepal emulate.
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| rook |
Posted
on 30-May-03 06:05 AM
Without the talent that Nepali citizenship would attract, Nepal will continue to lose many talented and skilless people to foreign lands. The end result for Nepal is fewer talented people and a dumbing down of the populace. I fear that the DV Visa would only provide another avenue for corruption in Nepali government. Nepal is doomed.
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