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| Biruwa |
Posted
on 30-May-03 02:20 PM
I would appreciate some input to these questions :
What do you do to differentiate instruction to meet the needs of individual learners?
What type of relationship do you strive to have with the parents of your students?
Why have you chosen teaching as a profession?
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| OneGirl_123 |
Posted
on 30-May-03 04:22 PM
Why u askin? r u the principal? ;)
:)
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| samana1 |
Posted
on 30-May-03 04:50 PM
Biruwa
As the matter of fact..i have never thought about teaching profession...It gets into my nerves whenever i think about it.
When I was kid, once i got to teach my lil cousin. She drove me nuts. To be a teacher, i think its a daring job..since one got to have that power to make his/her student understand about the material.
Regarding having a good relationship about the teachers and the parents relationship, thats the most important part. Since to nourish a growing plant the roots must be strong enough to transfer nutrients. Like that, to make a healthier environment the parents should know how to take care of themselves before taking care of their children. In my opinion, the parents teachers relationship should be strong enough and plays a vital role in the development of the personality and their well-being...Hey! its just my opinions!!!!!1
samana
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| samana1 |
Posted
on 30-May-03 04:51 PM
Biruwa ji
As the matter of fact..i have never thought about teaching profession...It gets into my nerves whenever i think about it.
When I was kid, once i got to teach my lil cousin. She drove me nuts. To be a teacher, i think its a daring job..since one got to have that power to make his/her student understand about the material.
Regarding having a good relationship about the teachers and the parents relationship, thats the most important part. Since to nourish a growing plant the roots must be strong enough to transfer nutrients. Like that, to make a healthier environment the parents should know how to take care of themselves before taking care of their children. In my opinion, the parents teachers relationship should be strong enough and plays a vital role in the development of the personality and their well-being...Hey! its just my opinions!!!!!1
samana
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| samana1 |
Posted
on 30-May-03 05:06 PM
lau! sorry hai...jhuckkera 2 choti po post huna pugecha
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| SITARA |
Posted
on 30-May-03 05:57 PM
Biruwa ji:
Hajur ko question ta mero job interview ma sodheko questions format jasto cha. Will try to be brief.
In my classroom (It is a specially designed classroom with educational materials that inforce a meticulous, systematic process of learning in practical life, sensorial, math and language arts), I have 3 age groups whom I track for 3 years. I record each child's background, emotional, physical and academic needs in my "educator's" portfolio. Also, I observe the prior knowledge each child is equipped with when he/she comes into my classroom. This, to facilitate his/her learning at his/her level.
My philosophy: Question his/her limitations(academic, physical, emotional) and explore the potentials (the sky is the limit). Plant a seed of self-worth, independence and curiousity in every child.
Rearing and nurturing a "normalized" child is a partnership between the parents and the educators. Since, I have every student for 3 years, I make sure we develop a cordial relationship of trust where the parents feel secure enough to seek any kind of counseling regarding the child. The trust helps me to direct the parent to seek professional help for his/her child's special situations; for example, speech tests, ADD, ADHD, special education, psychological and/or emotional counseling, physical therapy (fine and/or gross motor skills).....etc....list is long!
It can be stressful when my day does not go the way I want it to; it can be heartbreaking when a child comes to school hungry, ill-dressed and/or emotionally disturbed; it can be emotionally draining to stay in at meetings all day long just so an individual psychological profile can be prepared for a child labelled "delinquent".... BUT Guess what, I would not change my none glamorous job for anything in the world...just because I know for a fact I can make my students' transition into the real world a smoother process.
A selfish reason: I get 25+ hugs and many many smiles a day just for being there every morning!
:)
Why the interest Biruwa ji?
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| Bhunte |
Posted
on 30-May-03 06:31 PM
Sitara ji,
What provisions are there when you find immense potintial in a kid? I am talking about a 7 yr old 3rd grade kid attending a public school but he scored 99 percentile in SAT and reads about a little over 100 juvenile books per month beside his regular school works. Those books are usually 5th or 6th grade level of math, science, fiction, biography, geography, chapter books, etc. Do you have any suggestion? Thanks.
Bhunte
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| ruck |
Posted
on 30-May-03 06:43 PM
Much Awaited thread at last.. thanks Biruwa for starting this thread and sitara dijju thanks so much..
Would love to see this thread go a long way...
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| SITARA |
Posted
on 30-May-03 07:09 PM
Whew! Bhunte ji:
That is a toughie! A 7 year old scoring 99 percentile in SAT?.....
I would put him up as a Potential candidate for presidency (Note, the sky is the limit!)... I am sure he would do better than Bush!
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| noname |
Posted
on 30-May-03 07:18 PM
>>
I record each child's background, emotional, physical and academic needs in my "educator's" portfolio. Also, I observe the prior knowledge each child is equipped with when he/she comes into my classroom. This, to facilitate his/her learning at his/her level.
SITARA, let me add a progressive agenda here.
First some background: Couple of months back, I was listening to a radio program in NPR about HOMEWORK. One of key point they raised was: the teacher must be aware of economic condition of the students. Let me put it this way: Suppose you give homework to two students of same class, and one of them has separate study room and the other has to share room with parents. In the latter case, he/she will be disturbed by TV and other activities of other members in the family. Further, there will be no one to support him in his homework, and he/she might have to support the household stuffs too (more so if we are talking about Nepal and Girls).
Do you feel it necessary to consider economic background? Or, this is not applicable in the place where you teach!
Sorry Biruwa for taking slightly different course. Just wanted to gain from others' experience!
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| GP |
Posted
on 30-May-03 07:28 PM
.......... Sorry for being long. Read if you have time.
Biruwa asked following questions:
What do you do to differentiate instruction to meet the needs of individual learners?
What type of relationship do you strive to have with the parents of your students?
Why have you chosen teaching as a profession?
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Part One:
I got appointments of "Teacher" for almost 7-8times ........ First appointment, I got when appeared SLC exam at an early age 15, not even completed 16th BDay.
Worked as a techer to Grade 1 to PH.D. students.
Lets see my perspective of being a teacher.
I got first job appointment, but, never taught. Resigned immediately, because the
shool I was assigned was very far from my home. .......... I regret now that I
would have walked 1.5hrs up and down and taught those poor students. That
was the time, my salary could be less than 200 rupees, i.e. 20dollars at that time.
It was the time when we did not have many SLC qualified teachers. Never mind, some
teachers who taught me during grade 10 also did not have SLC. So, my appointment
should not be that much disappointing.
So, answer to Biruwa's third question at that time: To make some money, serve
students and COUNTRY (that most teen ager dreams...), learn the thing by teaching
students.................. This was my feeling at that time.
With continued political chaos, my scheduled class were postponed in college. I got another appointment when I was 16. I did not strike students with stick (as I had witnessed the Lathi: 10choti ulto 10choti sulto and pishab garne ...), but, I used to buy chocolate to honor those who did homework the way I wanted ..... It was primary
school.
Great thing being in Teacher is that your students will be spreaded througout
the world. I remember one of the students out of those 100s, some years back wrote
a letter to me that he was my student. ......... That is a reason you want to be a teacher. Another time, I met a student when I was talking some friends to sight
seeing place during weekend, he came to me said "......" everyone out there was
surprised .............. see he was there with his girlfriend. His heart still could not neglect
his former teacher.
The biggest hurdle to me without any real training on how to teach students,
was to teach the number 0-9 to the Grade 1 students in that first job at the primary school. .......
Well, lets come back to your question:
Was there any parent-teacher counselling? No.
Was there any resource to separate / identify the need of individual students? No.
We did not have budget to buy anything except Chalk. 100rupees of Maslandha
for 1 year.......... That was public primary school. Imagine 10dollar to run a school
of more than 100 students. Well, those chocolates were purchased from my salary as a driving force to students to work hard ......... We had some students who even did not have underwear: turi hallaudai hallaudai ....covered with Bhoto.
After my Bachelor's degree. I applied for a teaching position in T. University, simultaneously for a government job. I chose a govt. job in "Pai Pareko Thau" compared to high salaried univ. teaching position. ..........
Note this point. "Pai Pareko thau and salary plus social status". Two kinds of teachers:
teachers came to teach, or teachers sent to teach.
Similarly, there are two kinds of students:
Students who go to school to study and another class of students are those whose parents sent them to school to study.
Second class of teachers are as vulnerable as second class of students in the above classification. Nepal's education was ruined by those 2nd category of students as well as teachers. They are the one who indulge in politics, more and study/teach less.
This phenomenon, I observed when I got a part time job. I went there to teach, but,..
I taught there for 12 days and left the college. I was supposed to teach a most difficult subject, the chapter I taught was most difficult to the peoples in my profession. By the 9th day, students (category two: sent by parents) who came there to enjoy chat were not happy with the chapter. They were hooting, whistling. I declared that I can not be your teacher. Suddenly, I found a group of serious students (about 1/3rd: came to learn somthing) who came to request me to continue teaching despite those hooting and whistling. I tried to teach them, and tried to counsel those serious students... The serious students (in learning) were complaining that these Hullyaharu do hooting all the teachers. When discussed with another teacher, he also said the same thing. Well, I left it on 12th day. A fellow teacher, whom I met later somewhere else told me: "Tyasta lanthu student bhayeko college ma garoh subject ko garoh topic padhaunu bhayechha... tyo chapter padhaune tapai 12th teacher in just one year. Sajilo sajilo kura padhaune talab khane ho ke. Ma ta tyastai garchu. Sab danga chhan.".
The record was on Physics, they changed 36teachers in one year. So, it should be answer Biruwa's question "what a teacher can do? to satisfy individual student's need?". Probably, individual student is counted only when number of students are less very less.
That is why the primary schools in developed country have only one teacher for one class for all the year. So, primary / elementary schools can afford one class one teacher for a full academic year. Its not possible to satisfy every adult students in a class of 100s.
So, Biruwa's question one is valid either for students in elements schools or students in higher education: research students: final year Bachelor or Masters or Ph.D. students.
All other level students can not be given individual attention, especially, in a public funded schools. Everything depends on the resources you have: how many students a teacher has to supervise.
Parent-Teacher Association could be one good concept to accomodate parents in school's teaching, especially, in compulsary education tier: i.e. primary, junior, and high schools. But, the law in Nepal does not let you have Parent-Teacher Assocation or operate it. I tried to initiate : legal registration of Parent Teacher Association, the CDO office ejected out the word "teacher" from that association's constitution and by-laws. ........... All clauses that were supposed to have joint work between Parent and Teachers, were deleted. Thus, legally teachers and parents can not sit and discuss things of their own interests... Thats why CDO office declined to register the PTA in Nepal... ... ...
.......... Sorry for being long. Read if you have time.
GP
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| Bhunte |
Posted
on 30-May-03 07:31 PM
Sitara ji,
Yeah, it is exceptional. Presidential candidate is impossible, as he was born in Nepal. We are looking for a private school for the kid, but the fee in the pvt school is exurberantly high. Here we could't find any organizations that support such talents for elementary education in a pvt school.
Heard that public schools are better than private in DC! Is that true?
bhunte
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| SITARA |
Posted
on 30-May-03 07:39 PM
Noname ji:
It is important that home environment is taken into consideration; that is where parent-teacher conferences come into play. Parents need to be cognizant of the block of homework time required to finish assignments; educators have to suggest that the child is alloted that time.
Where I teach the socio-economic gaps are big and the discrepency in school performance shows. Although my school is a public school, it has a different kind of academic setting which is very flexible in that children are allowed school time to do their home work at the end of the school day.
In Nepal ( I dare not make a sweeping statement...here.), just opening a school does not suffice especially in the remote areas. A sociological perspective has to be taken inorder to establish a self-sustaining school programme where the school is desired by the local people for its role in their children's life. But at the same time the school should not create an obstruction or be a hindrance to local domesticity. School opening time should take into consideration the household chores and/or the academic year should be cognizant of the harvesting and planting times when all hands are needed at home or at the fields.
But definitely, opening a school in a remote village area should support the local sociological structure in order to garner the enthusiasm of the local people.
But, giving a hypothesis and/or theory is a far cry from actually implementing it... I do recognize the fact that I may be just speaking out of my experiences in US and my theoretical book knowledge.
Hehe! kasto sochnu paryo hajur!
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| GP |
Posted
on 30-May-03 07:41 PM
"Heard that public schools are better than private in DC! Is that true?"
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This is true in most developed countries. Only the exceptionally expensive privates schools can teach better than public schools. Because the governments in developed
countries know that funding in school = exptected return from those students when they grow and become full blown up citizen.
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| SITARA |
Posted
on 30-May-03 07:47 PM
Bhunte ji:
If you have a candidate who is exceptionally gifted, and if he is here in US, he will have NO problems with scholarships. Let me know if you need links to financial institutions which provide scholarships for private schools, here in the East Coast.
Public schools have the TAG (Talented and Gifted) programmes that test the child through standardized testing. If he/she scores exceptionally high the child may be awarded state scholarships and national grants.
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| Bhunte |
Posted
on 30-May-03 07:49 PM
GP Sir,
I am not sure of your assertions. In my gaon private schools have been outperforming public schools.
bhunte
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| Bhunte |
Posted
on 30-May-03 07:54 PM
Sitara ji,
I highly appreciate for the links and any useful info. Thanks again for the free consultation.
bhunte
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| GP |
Posted
on 30-May-03 07:59 PM
Bhunte ji,
Nepal ma ta abasya pani private schools are better, otherwise who should send their kids to private schools. I was talking things developed countries, e.g. Japan, Singapore, Korea.... based on what peoples say.
Rest later.
GP
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| Biruwa |
Posted
on 30-May-03 09:47 PM
Thanks for replies.
I would say that we should let students discover and create knowledge themselves. This is the best method designed to address the needs of individual learners. (rarely done in Nepal) where ghokante bidhya- pathanti path system rules.
Sitara, has made some striking points on the parent-teacher relationship. However, you have focused more on small kid's parents. Which is understandable, since you deal with small kids. Hope you are not getting 25 hugs from grown up men! I would be jealous ;-) Would the same concept apply to the parents of grown ups- say those engaged in higher study?
While faculty members generally form a community within themselves. Does this extend to the staff of the place of education too? I am talking about the administrators of the schools and universities. What kind of relationship do you have (or would you like to have) with the administration of your school?
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| ruck |
Posted
on 30-May-03 09:49 PM
What is the fee structure in private schools here ? just curious...
:-))
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| Bhunte |
Posted
on 30-May-03 09:57 PM
Biruwa,
Your question is very vague. Are you talking about Nepal's university administration? If so, i suggest you better practice 'chakadi, natabad, kripabad', etc. If you are talking about academic-adminstration relationship in western universities, they are pretty well defined. No need to explictly ink here.
Write what your problems are with your school administration?
bhunte
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| Bhunte |
Posted
on 30-May-03 09:59 PM
ruck,
it costs about anywhere between $8,000 to $12,000 per year just for tuition fee in a reasonably good private school.
bhunte
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| ruck |
Posted
on 31-May-03 06:01 PM
Thanks bhunte..Fee ta katti expensive rahecha....
:-))
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| Longwood Ave |
Posted
on 31-May-03 06:55 PM
Great topic of discussion although I am preparing to be a teacher of sort but at an university level.
However, my question is specifically for Sitara. I was just wondering where the responsibilities of parents ends and that of the teacher begins. In this day and age it looks like even with elevated level of household incomes and education, there is more and more tendency to shy away from parental obligations and responsibilities and dump it on the schools. In Nepal the so called upper middle class and filthy rich equally pride on placing their children in prestigious (often translated to real expensive) boarding schools. Many "boarding schools" do injustice to the term boarding anyway or simply is a misnomer. Thus, often times, giving the parents in these extra "marriage" time for the weekend and evenings.
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Longwood Ave.
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| SITARA |
Posted
on 01-Jun-03 12:20 PM
Bhunte ji:
Pls email me... ( let me know the details of the boy) as I can't seem to email you. Thanks!
Longwood ji:
Will address your question...hai, later!
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| Bhunte |
Posted
on 01-Jun-03 05:26 PM
Sitara ji,
I have e-mailed you. Let me know if you haven't received it yet. thx.
bhunte
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