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| allare |
Posted
on 04-Jun-03 05:00 AM
Chokta khana gayeko budhi, Jhol ma duber mari...
I do not know, whehter Makune knows this proverb or not, but he seems quite fittable in this proverb.
Now, SBT is new PM of Nepal.
I am happy for some reason though Thapa's appointment as new PM is not justifialbe for many reasons.
I am waiting for Jan-Andolan (Kursi Andolan) garne party haru ko reaction. I am now just counting the days of this new govt.
Aba Maoist haru le ke garcha? barta ya back to jungle?
Jan - Andolan (Kursi Andolan) ko gati ke huncha?
Will UML, NC particiapte in this new govt? (I doubt, but who knows.. if they do then why did not they participate in Chanda govt ?)
How far this Thapa govt will be different than Chanda govt?
blah blah.. nepal ma politics ko arko chapter khuldai chha..
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| DWI |
Posted
on 04-Jun-03 05:28 AM
Thapa's appointment as a Prime Minister, although expected, is a disappointment from the Royal Palace. Nepali Congress has already denounced this fixture. When the leading political parties are pushing for a sole candidate (Madhave Kumar Nepal), why is the Palace continuing its blunt decisions. Is this a plot by the king to stir a chaos in the already disturbed political situation in Nepal?
"I saw three PMs during my tenure as a King and nobody was happy. That is why I am now claiming the executive power and now returning Nepal to the absolute Monarchy." Is that what our King wants to say? What is the reason behind the King's adherence to the Panchayat Prime Ministers? We are solely depending upon the online news and BBC, may be friends from Nepal could enlighten us more.
The ironic part is that, even if you oppose the move, the otherside is also equally disappointing. Jun goru ayeni Kanai chirya.
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| rbaral |
Posted
on 04-Jun-03 05:34 AM
Wait and see:
UML: nepal.ko rajniti.ma Amrika ko prabesh. Surya B. Thapa lai alachonatmak samarthan.
brb: yasma amriki ra bharatiya samrajyabad to gandha chha.
GPK, kangress: Grand Design.Grand Design.Grand Design.
Arjun Narsing KC: Jati garey pani India ko lagi ma bhanda Surya Bahadur nai thulo bhakta.
rpp: surya bahadur thapa -- deshbhakta nepali ko ek matra bikalpa, shanti ra bikas ko lagi.
mahra: yo waartaa bhandney shad.yantra ho -- burjuwa haruko.
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| jaya_nepal |
Posted
on 04-Jun-03 06:22 AM
The appointment of Surya Bahadur Thapa as the new Prime Minister of Nepal by HM King Gyanendra opened yet another front in the Nepali politics. The five political parties who launched a movement against the Lokendra Bahadur Chand are not satisfied by this new appointment. NC(Koirala) has already stated that they would not support this government.
It is clear that Nepali politics is governed by two dictators - King Gyanendra and five political parties. Five political parties want to rule as they want, they dont care about other minority parties. On the other hand, King Gyanendra leads his own path. At this point of time, it is not important whose path should be followed, but the main agenda should be to lead the nation out of the political chaos. The political parties should co-operate with the King. The picture would be clear if they turn around and see their past over the last decade. It is clear why King Gyanendra did not appoint MaKuNe as the PM.
Now that Thapa is the new PM, the five political parties should stop fighting for their pity interests and start working for national interests and development. The time they spent for mass movement and rallies should be utilized to build national infrastructure. I wish Thapa is able to maintain a balance between all the political parties. I wish him good luck for his duties and responsibilities towards the nation.
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| sparsha |
Posted
on 04-Jun-03 06:22 AM
The king is quite unpredictible and a big gambler in political sense. From my angle, I don't see what he did is good. SBT is from the same party as LBC. Now, NC and UML will not join the govt. (even if they want to they can't. how can they when they couldn't under LBC?). This new appointment will spring more unrest and nothing constructive will be achieved. Daily life of common people will continue to suffer. In my opinion, the King should have appointed MKN as the PM. By not appointing him at the top post, the king is giving what MKN (and GPK as well) was looking for, no accountable responsibility to record in the history but more power in the streets. MKN should have been given PMship so he could prove who he is.
SBT, in the past, had shown strong detest against then prince GBBS. Now, I feel that anger is dead.
This government will not run for long (unless NC/UML or atleast one joins the govt).
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| sparsha |
Posted
on 04-Jun-03 06:33 AM
"Now that Thapa is the new PM, the five political parties should stop fighting for their pity interests and start working for national interests and development. "
Ego stands as tall as dharahara or those relay towers. I can't believe the King appointed SBT for the job. Yes, India may be happy but was not a wise a decision of him (just my thought). Like I said above, by appointing SBT the PM, the king gave undue power to MKN and GPK.
Why did he appoint SBT (not MKN or others) as the PM? Shouldn't he be explaining to us- the people? The King is and must always be responsible to us. We at least deserve his explanation on why he did what he did.
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| forget-me-not |
Posted
on 04-Jun-03 06:40 AM
I personally never thought SBT was a good candidate in this political situation. I am not saying he is not good, but not suitable at this very time.
I think the king has made a yet another mistake, which the poor people will suffer. With these 5 political parties not supporting SBT (which I don't think, they will) will again start their so called janaandolan..... You know what will happen to nepal's economy.
Aakhir sati le sarapeko desh na paryo...nothing good is going to happen here...
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| allare |
Posted
on 04-Jun-03 06:57 AM
Every one in Nepal is trying to teach lesson to other. But no one is ready for lesson. I wish that MAKUNE and NC learn some basic lessons from the current move of GBBS. But I doubt because, they are so blind for KURSI that, they can only think of immediate step but can not think about consequece and furhter steps to be taken in different scenario.
I bet that, UML and NC had ever thought that SBT can be also PM after Chanda.. Makune was seeing only himself as PM from all angle and could not think further beside that. Now, they said that they wont join the govt. Good for them.
After chand going out, it was appeared that Maoist were bigger looser, but now, Maoist most be happy and UML,NC are greatest looser for now.
If UML and NC wont join govt, then who will be minister? Members of RPP, Samata Party, Badri group, Hariyaali group..
I see two different distinct roads for UML, NC.
one: Silently join the current govt and pave the way for election.. (which they wont do)
second: Join Maoist and lunch all kinds of protest agaist GBBS and current govt and go once and forever for republic without looking back. ( i doubt that they have guts for this)..
First one is easy, but they will not be able to argu any more against GBBS.. Second one is difficult and in which they might loose all, what they have now little bit..
so what they will do.. nothing.. GPK will continue crying Great Grand Design.. Makune.. will be singing song.. "Uddayo sapana sabai huri le..tyo SBT moro lee... " ... and nepal will be again in same position as when Chand was appionted PM...
Mero desh ko dukha ko katha..
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| computer |
Posted
on 04-Jun-03 07:03 AM
i don't understand why the same guys bcome pm several times.
I think Nepal is the only country where more than one person is becoming PM more than once.
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| forget-me-not |
Posted
on 04-Jun-03 07:09 AM
You said the present 5 parties have 2 option , how about the other option like so called jana (kurchhi) aandolan like the one they are doing now.
Makune and GP are not so simple as you and I think, they must have worked out different options, this was just one of them. SO they will work with other options now..
I am sure if these 5 parties cannot do something good, they won't also let anyone do better either, sadhai nepal bandha, chakka jam, etc etc etc..and the situation would be bad.....
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| boston_dude |
Posted
on 04-Jun-03 07:19 AM
computer,
I think this is an indictment on the 2nd generation leaders of all parties. The reason these old farts remain in power and keep passing the seat amongst themselves is because the up and coming leaders in thier respective parties are not strong enough to oppose them. Perhaps this is a cultural thing.... respect for the elderly. But, whatever the cause, it definitely has a cancerous effect on the country and its future.
That is why, I have said for a long time now, that in my opinion, Nepal does not just need a political change, but it needs an economic and cultural revolution. I am hoping that Maoists, despite all thier defficiency, are for real and will help bring about such a change.
B_D.
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| Poonte |
Posted
on 04-Jun-03 07:30 AM
I completely fail to understand what it actually might take for even the "Maharajdhiraj" to realize that bringing back the crooks from the old camp is not going to be healthy for the future of Nepal. We need new faces, with new sets of vision, to be given the opportunity--we cannot rely on the same people who have failed our country in the past.
The move to appoint SBT as the new PM also strengthens my conviction that the "Shree 5" is, after all, not at all comfortable with his own position either--he needs to surround himself with hardcore loyalists (who cares if SBT had on occasions denounced the King merely for his own personal benefits) who come from the Panchayat past. If he is a real leader, he would have dared to face new indivividuals with differences head on, struggle hard with the process, so that we might have a prosperous society vibrant with differing ideas in the future. If he chooses to rely on the old camp time and again, he only proves that he is a mere coward.
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| acharya |
Posted
on 04-Jun-03 07:40 AM
Why doesn't Paras shoot out everyone in the palace and declare himself the new King? This is a good oppurtunity for him! This will rid the King from us whom we hate so badly.
And then someone else can volunteer to shoot Paras, when he is the King..coz afterall, we don't want him as our king either!
Easy way out..eh?
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| Satya |
Posted
on 04-Jun-03 08:34 AM
Nepal is at the dead end now. The latest prime minister SBT is only mask of King GBBS who will have no more power than LBC. That is, no political change is forthcoming.
We dont have any visionary netas who can lead us in this difficult situation. Our kursi-bhakta neats are using their iron grip to cut the heads of aspiring potential capable netas.
GBBS is taking advantage of our kursi-bhakta netas love for kursi at the cost of Nepali citizen. He is not sincere to solve the problem constitutional crisis - he managed to hatch. He will continue to fish in troubled water. Divide and Rule is his mantra.
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| jaya_nepal |
Posted
on 04-Jun-03 09:35 AM
Can anyone explain me - Appointment of Surya Bahadur Thapa as a new PM is against the spirit of constitution while that of Madhav Kumar Nepal is not? How does that work? Just because the five political parties support MaKuNe, that is with compliance of constitution?
The constitution would be void if the sovereignity and integrity of the so called Himalayan/Hindu Kingdom of Nepal is lost. Why cant all the political leaders just unite and work for something good. I am not supporting King Gyanendra, or Surya Bdr Thapa, or Koirala or Nepal. I am just frustrated with all this shit going on. Everyone wants to become the god damn Prime Minister but no one is clear what would do they do after that. The simple fact is DO NOT FIGHT AMONGST EACH OTHER, BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE TO LOCATE NEPAL ON THE WORLD MAP. I DONT WANNA ARGUE ABOUT THE NEW PM, IM TIRED WITH THIS SHIT. CAN EVERYONE JUST STAY UNITED.
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| Bond-007 |
Posted
on 04-Jun-03 11:27 AM
After Surya Bahadur Thapa we will see Tulsi Giri then Kriti Nidhi Bista then Marich Man Singh then------------ . (I feel sorry for late Nagendra Prasad Rijal).
Panchyati Byabastha!!! Jindabaad..........!!!!
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| DWI |
Posted
on 04-Jun-03 11:37 AM
Always supported the palace, but things like these make us wonder if Girija is right on the dot when he was explaining the 'Grand Plan.' I have very less doubt now, that the present move is to depict the chaotic picture of the present political crisis (and justifiably gain the power).
Was the present king very close to Mahendra (I know Late King Birendra wasn't).
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| Bhunte |
Posted
on 04-Jun-03 01:21 PM
interview with sbt, and mkn and NC's reactions about recent development can be found in the following link:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/nepali/
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| GP |
Posted
on 04-Jun-03 04:28 PM
The biggest weakness in Makune at this time is that he did not outline what will he do as PM of Nepal. What Next? No vision in his filing to be PM of Nepal.
I heard and read that SBT gave a clear (clear to King) cut plan and vision. Well, lets not forget a vision without action is a daydream. I am wondering whether those plan and visions will be really materialized: action with vision makes the difference.
"Action" : jun jogi aye pani kanai chireka chai nahos.
Poor Makune: wrong agenda: to reinstate the constitutionally dissolved parliament.
Anway, lets read others input. The dire fan of Makune in this forum if my personal
observations are correct, is Biswo ji.
Please refrain that I am neither fan of any political leader nor of King G., but, lately I am great fan/ supporter of Shailaja Acharya. Just a Ramite.
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| SA |
Posted
on 04-Jun-03 07:06 PM
It's pity that MKN's darbar-jane-daura-suruwal has yet again been wasted!
Ke garne? dukha pais mangale aphnai dhanga le!
This is not anyway a desirable outcome. UML leaders and caders have invested a lot political capital but their CEO could not reap the opportunities that could not only deliver political fruits to his caders but also contributed socio-econmic transformation of the nation.
It now seems that Maoist are going for a hostile take over of UML. Few days back maoist leader mahara said "the old regime should be able either to supress us by force or fufill our demand". This implies that peace talk can be successful if only maoist is made (?) a dominant political force. And one possibility to work out such arragnement is transfer the political capital of UML to Maoist.
SA
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| allare |
Posted
on 05-Jun-03 12:50 AM
Forget me not,
Well, GPK and Makune are not simple and tranparent as we think, because non of them have clear vision and they depend more on foreign force than own internal peoples force.
Chakka jaam and strikes are now very cheap. Any one can call chakka jaam which lost its value. And GPK and Makune can not do better than chakka jaam and strikes.
Other option that you mentioned about jan (kursi) andolan already has diverted from its path and stuck in dead end.
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