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| najar | Posted
on 16-Jun-03 02:12 PM
Sajha.com dekhi Haiti samma (prescript: what follows is a simple musing and anecdotal series, a rather themeless piece so to speak. I do not claim to be a prolific writer, neither do i posess a mastery in angrezi, therefore readers are requested to read by correcting the typos, and subject matter(s). I invite you all to add/delete/correct/comment as you deem best fit, thank you!) _______________________________ Good to be back in this cyber territory after being away for a while. I am celebrating about nine months of my regular stay (on and off) on this forum as i scribble my ramblings today. If sajha was a human mother by this time it would be ready to deliver a child! Nontheless, it has produced not just one but hundreds of posters in this nine month period. However, last october was not when i first ran into the site. I think i got acquainted to the site somewhere during my senior year in college little more than 3 years ago while looking up some info regarding gbnc. A few names that i remember from that era are sunakhari, ashu, NK, JDV, anepalikt, trailokya aryal, sally, biswo, san-- most of them still actively contributing. However at the time my visit was limited to once in several weeks or so, and would not follow the kurakanis, threads too well nor chat (then, did not even know sajha chat existed). Upon finishing school, began reading the postings a little more starting last summer (2002). One more incentive to increase my visit to the site became the writings of the ppl that i had known in person before my entry into sajha (discovered only after following their postings closely). Would delightfully follow the postings of villagevoice, NK, ashu, sally, biswo, nepe, paschim, anepalikt, arnico, oys_chill, soleil, suna, jira, rusty, HG, and others. If my memory serves well, other current hastis of sajha such as sitara, czar, poonte, M.P., simplegal, trikal, gunaraj, deep, chipledhunga, prempujari, dhumbasee, were yet to mark their residency here. I could be very wrong in tracking the timing of the posters, and excuse my inaccuracy, if you may. The current listing of my fav posters is long, therefore i should not even start--but we all know them! I too had not begun my official debut writing here as yet. Was deliberate in trying not to create a strong profile, although did not quite work at times, and i don't posesses that good an expertise to contribute to begin with, and thus was happy reading others and offering few comments, pieces here and there. But little did i imagine at the time that i would have close ties (or/and dislikes ) with all people from different walks of life in this nepali cyberland with my active participation on this forum. Upon starting to work, and some free time on evenings and weekends in hand, i happily began devoting it to sajha, primarily for self-entertainment, and learning ofcourse was a bonus! This site, i have noticed goes through a cycle of its own, seemingly by default. Profound upproar, twists and turns, jori khojing and arguing for the sake of argument, heated debates, ko bhanda ko kaum, ego clashes add extra falvour to the site. Distasteful aspects have not failed to reach this site either as seen in malicious personal attacks to posters, disgusting kurakanis, unfolding ppl's anonymity, making false accusation that seem to emerge time and again. And like all, I TOO AM/HAVE BEEN disgusted with such postings. But in its course the site undoubtedly continues to harbor amazing talent of writers, poets, political discussions, informative pieces, news, announcements, and ofcourse fun interaction among nepali community. The site administrator is to be lauded for his effort in sustaining this small community of its own People come and go, some stay, some return, some quit, some change their avatars and thats life! kramasha: |
| najar | Posted
on 16-Jun-03 02:17 PM
One major disappointment (at least to me) of being away from home is missing the festive moods, and celebration of chaad parvas with family and friends. Sajha has in time brought those celebration right in this cyberspace via postings on gaijaatra, deusi, bhailo, dashain, tihar, new year, buddha jayanti and you name it. Funny, at one time --I felt like i knew more about sajhaposters, and how they were doing more so than my personal friends offline! A few how and whereabouts that i remember that are derived right from the threads i read are (some of them are distorted in jest, please do not take them seriously) --Ashu travelling to Australia taking a sajha break for a month --Dilasha graduating from college, also taking a break from sajha coinciding (was it? :))with ashu's schedule --HG hibernating in some Japani mountain --Paschim currently today Bhutan, next week in Laos, the week after in Cambodia. Travelling to 10 other countries and hopping on to Nepal enroute other countries within next 3 months . Also on a personal front, in quest of a chwank, intelligent and compatible woman. --Paramendra still on the road gudaaing his 16 wheeler. --Sitara juggling from sajha to her 25 kids at school to her own classes to adam's morgan, to chatting. --NK visiting Mexico for a vacation. Also, got tired of sajha lately--missing ashu's postings while he is away. Controls sajha rather than sajha controlling her --Surya on leave, have not seen her strong presence these days. where art thou surya? --Rusty in nepal looking for a prospective bride --Whether Kevin hired Soleil for a job or not still remains a mystery. These dayshe is into retting the guitar rather than completing the unfinished story-days of my life --Trikal just returned from the 7th vacation within last six months --Dhumbasse in Jamaica --Czech Martin reconnected to his nepali soul mate --JDV taking a business trip to Toronto --Poonte's paper due tomorrow at 10:00am, yet still (8:00pm today) reading sajha and chatting. Will pull up an all nighter, and if that does not give adequate time will ask professor for an extension --Isolated freak heading to china for a graduate studies soon. Recently had a leg injury. Providinga live report on nepali politics as they fold/unfold albeit right biased -- Arnico, currently in nepal--next week in boston, two weeks then after in switzerland yet actively organizing nepali new year's party to be held in boston. --Oys_chill's crush crushed as his guitar weeps gently --MP busy giving tips to all the procrastinator in sajha while putting aside his readings and work for the finals next day. --Birthdays of Sitara, Dhumbasse, Poonte, Joie --Gunaraj became father of the second lovely daughter --Crush of sneharika and lucifer on Prempujari --Sitara's popularity transcended from sajha to a truck bumper on naubise road --Suna to hold momo party on monthly basis at her place --Simplegal attending a confernce in Istanbul --Jira sees a need of 35 and above chatroom --DBB graduating from highschool. In an aftermath of its recent verbal uproar (s) and malcious war trends has decided to quit sajha. and the list goes on.... feel free to add more remaing part to be continued......................... |
| KaLaNkIsThAn | Posted
on 16-Jun-03 02:26 PM
LOL!! Interesting observation ni oho, la la cha cha, baru tyo dherai type garda pedicure, manicure, nail paaalish ke ke jaati ho bigrela ni. careful hoi, ki chaahincha help -- my kachuwa speed typing ko? ani ani? haiti ma ke bhaa re? |
| NK | Posted
on 16-Jun-03 02:30 PM
Najar, Welcome back. I just skimmed it. I just wanted to greet you before signing off for today. :) |
| isolated freak | Posted
on 16-Jun-03 11:35 PM
najar nani, Quite impressive. Its good to know that you remember everyone, even those who don't appear on this board/forum anymore. It was interesting and GOOD to see my name mentioned, now that tells me, I should change my nick to something else since I don't remain isolated anymore. Let me share my Sajha experience: I have been in Sajha for almost 3 years now, and its good to see this site evolve as a platform to share pictures/poems/stories/views pertaining to Nepal and Nepalis living everwhere. However, the quality of discussions have been not to expectations recently. But, I guess, its a cycle and although I hate to admit this, we all are getting a little adical these days. Again, I am one of those and at times right words, which are unoffensive are a little harder to find in/during political discussions. Some people love the extreme views of some of the posters (including me) and some don't. I think we should be addressing this issue of extremism and not try to impose ourselves on fellow posters/readers. Sajha or GBNC, this site still remains a platform to make friends and enemies. I have met quite a few people from this board who don'tb believe in what I belioeve but still, we can talk for hours without getting on each others' nerves! I met and became good friends with ashu, who by the way has a different view of the world than me. I also met Arnico, who too has different views on things/issues, but still we have come to accept our difefrences.. One thing that I have learned from Sajha is that that people are not bad nor their views/opinions are bad, its just how we express our feelings/views. I too enjoy reading Ashu, NK, Arnico and Village Voice for their clarity and forceful arguments. I also enjoy Sitara, Jira, Deep, Chiple and Oys's pieces/fictions/poems. I read Biswo's pieces with utmost interests because he brings that other perspective and at times challenges me to think. At times, its like having a verbal war, but again, in the ehat of the discussion, its all accepted or just gets ignored. I read Guna's pieces too because he is the one to start Nepali typing in Sajha. More than his stories, I respect his effort to type in Nepali. Also, GP, whom I have been discussing on and off on many issues for long time remains an interesting poster. Prempujari's aaaaaanch and dyaaaaaummmm are too hard to pass.. aaaaaanch brooooooo dyaummmmmmmmmmmm....There are quite a few new faces in Sajha--Pem Charo, Mirador, Bond 007, Khimu, Gurl _inturruped etc--who have the potentials to grow and become good critics and posters, and I would like to see that happen. Also, let me not forget one name that has challeneged me a lot and at times offended me, no not because of his views but the name calling and comparing to this and that. And yeah, you got it right. Its Nepe. I think Nepe, if he can free himself of all his getting-personal-attitudes, can be a forceful debator. His views are interesting nonetheless. Having written all this, I heard one prominent Sajha member Lao Peng Bu Shuo Xian heng is here in Nepal. If its true, why not meet over some coffee or pi jiu and take our cyber freindship a step further? aani najar nani, khoi ta tapaiko Haiti ko barnan? sunaune hoina bhanya? |
| isolated freak | Posted
on 16-Jun-03 11:37 PM
Hetterika, jhan dherai IR ko argument garne ko name chutecha.. so, narisaunus hai..Poonte and DWI..hamro dui jana IR experts who have their own versions of the international system that we belong to, and learning from them has always helped me in understanding the Middle East. |
| Arnico | Posted
on 17-Jun-03 01:01 AM
Najar, welcome back. Great to read your postings. Don't worry, I will return to making lengthy kurakani postings again soon. IF, yes, it's good to be able to get along even if we REALLY disagree on some major issues. Wish more people in Nepal could do that... to separate friendship from political views... |
| Master_Of_One_Liners | Posted
on 17-Jun-03 03:49 AM
However, the quality of discussions have been not to expectations recently. Get off your high horse - there are those who come here strictly to goof off, not to post "quality discussions" that meet the standards of some patronizing pricks. |
| Master_Of_One_Liners | Posted
on 17-Jun-03 03:54 AM
Don't waste your time reading it then Tansen - take some writing classes instead. |
| MARICH | Posted
on 17-Jun-03 06:33 AM
Hmmmmmmm!! i think i know you from somewhere , Najar, but my preoccupied faculty is not attendting me well and hence can't service me to my expectations. Truthful are your obeservations as well as nice. So how was your trip, and how about our chances of seeing some great scenes from the blue ocean of Haiti. |
| jira | Posted
on 17-Jun-03 07:00 AM
Najar jyu, Ramro barnan. Sannchhai Haiti ma ke paindo rahecha ho tyasto famous cheez chai? Purana hindi geet haruko cassette ( dhulo lageko kya ) haru ni Haiti pugey holan ni ta :-) |
| najar | Posted
on 17-Jun-03 07:29 AM
Thank you all for reading. Kalankisthan jyu--retorted back to old label ho? ki jhukkiera? Tyo pedicure and manicure effect ta long gone ni :(, baru kasari thha paako hola, trikal sanga lesson lina thhalyo ho ki kya ho? Thanks for the offer to type, tara that too would be mean i would have to type and send it to you ni hoina? ki already know what i'd be writing? in the case of latter go ahead :)) NK--Thank you dear. How are you? we'll have to catch up sometime, our unmaterialized plan. Freak jyu--thank you for reading and sharing your thoughts. Haiti ko barnan aaundai chha, pratikshya garnu hos. Arnico--thank you. Still in nepal ho ki, back to boston? I hope you had a good trip as well. and look forward to reading your postings and beautiful pictures. Marich-- thank you for your kind words and reading. Chances of seeing some pictures of blue ocean in Haiti do exist, but no promise as yet--pahila text narrative nai pura garam, ani if the pictures turn out nice, will upload them also. Did not take a digital camera, and the conventional camera i used ko film yet to finish :( and Hmmmmm, I too wonder who you could be--hints paainchha ki? Jira jyu--dherai dherai dhannebaad. Haiti maa famous haitian rum (rhum as they call it) thhiyo, ani woodcrafts, art work eetyadi. Tara aafu nai detain bhayi yela bhanera daraai raakhya bhaera chose not to bring them back! will provide the visa complications on my next seriesi...but now that i am back safe and sound,, am thinking i should have brought a bottle or two, no? |
| Rusty | Posted
on 17-Jun-03 07:33 AM
Najar Ji, Big Hmmmmm!! You are really Sajha's surveillance camera.. ehehe!! Wow, I was elated to read that my name mentioned amongst those Sajha veterans. Thanks.. Also, welcome back to you. Also, did I look for any bride in Nepal?? Hmm..I doubt:P Rather, I am searching at Sajhapur..Afno gau, afno culture...ko keti..LOL Anyways, for me, it's been almost a year at this site since I started to post/read on regular basis. It doesn't mean that I was not aware of this site before. Reminisce of my first visit to www.gbnc.org takes me back to dreadful moment when I read a story/discussion about a guy, who committed suicide in Boston [May his soul rest in peace]. That's how I happened to browse this site for the first time. Following that glance through, I started to visit this site sporadically as a silent reader. My memory doesn't clearly recall all those names, but I used to read quite a few alluring postings from Ashu, NK, and Arnico. I used to be amazed to see Ashu's intellectual discussion and his logical composure to defy any kind of personal attacks on him in the forums. Later, with unregistered screen name, I started to post, mostly together with Oys_Chill, Poonte, Prem Pujari, Sitara, and a couple of other guys/girls. Am I right? Indeed, I was the one-- who detoured Mr. Oys_Chill to this site after his eternal walk on the dark side of moon. Not to mention, this guy turns out to be a memory lane veteran. Also, I showed Sajha Astrologer Trikal the way to practice his ability at Sajha site. Malai puraskar dine hoki?? ehehe!! Slowly at first, then faster and faster, I got addicted to Sajha dot com; I started to follow NK's epic poetries and essays, Isolated_Freak's brilliant critics, Parmendra Bhagat's move to segregate Taraians, M.P.'s impressive journalism and many other fascinating threads by eloquent writers. Ashu's "Deepak Gyawali 's refusal to UC, berkely" and M.P.'s "Parmendra Bhagt's appointed for interim prime minister", and Sitara's "fate's bride" will always be engraved in my mind. Well, I never posted immensely in any threads, thus many of you may not have noticed me; nonetheless, I am contented with the fact that I achieved many good friends by means of Sajha, such as San, Arnico, Prem Pujari, Poonte, Sitara, NK, Robert Frost, and Chipledhunga. Not to mention, Najar, Oys, Trikal, and Jira bro were already my off-line friends. la ta..yo katha yahi anta.. |
| najar | Posted
on 17-Jun-03 07:40 AM
About a month ago happened to be in the dc area for work. Coinciding with that trip came along an opportunity to see a few sajhaites in the greater rajdhani area, which was absolutely a pleasure (the planning was quite a story in itself--we knew we were meeting, but noone knew where, when, how :)), but we somehow got it materialized at the very last minute amid cold rain. One of the sajhaites had said--"haami nepali lai ke ko plan garna paryo, plan aafai bani haalchha ni--just get in town", and turned out-worked exactly that way. The non-sajha friends accompanying me were amazed to see the bonding among us! One of my college friends almost broke her fingers getting them caught in the cab door as we were heading out to meet the sajhaites. To my great relief, her fingers remained intact...pheww--almost had to detour to the emergency instead. She later confirmed that the pain's gone as well. Our memory lane king and my dear pbpb oys_chill has given a word that dc memory lane is on its way, kaso oys? is developing mood rey :) His popular memory lane from our new york mini get together probably is in the archive as nyc ko jhajhalko if people are interested. Excellent humor account by all that met in the thhulyo syawu sahar. Return from the dc trip, and see that sajha's taken a new trajectory. This was the time when people had started posting their pictures, which i greatly admired, and was nice to put faces with the writings/cybernames. However, what surprised me was the kurakani topics ramified from the pictures posted. Is X hot? Is Y single? Z is beautiful so on and so forth were the tons of thread floating around. But one fact for sure, sajha posters/chatters are gifted with aesthetic appearance to complement their beautiful minds! And ofcourse, my ganthan will be incomplete without a mention of sajha chat. Following gunadai's popular story uu feri chat maa aayena and hearing much from other posters, i too had one day decided to actually see what all that was about. Oh boy, is that place addicting! Guna dai's story was not much off from reality :) I remember, this one time--i was telling our the sanminator if he could just hire me to chat i would happily transfer and start chatting full time: P However, to my pride have cut that habit down significantly (with p-value less than 0.05) :) although do visit occasionally or as NK would say--i now control sajha instead of sajha controlling me. Okay, okay enough digression..now moving on to haiti--hopefully by aaja belukaa............. |
| SimpleGal | Posted
on 17-Jun-03 08:01 AM
Najar, Good to see you back. Lovely thread here -- very much of Afantapan. That's what you are the epitome of! Thanks. In peace. |
| Poonte | Posted
on 17-Jun-03 10:06 AM
Haamri aafnai Najar boiniiiiiiiiiiiii!!!!!!!! Haiti baata kosheli lyaako khai? Yo anta na santa ko kura garna chhodera khurukka mero kosheli hulaak maarfat pathaam ta! Jhattai! natra!!!!!!!!!!! Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr....... ma pani yespali ta 4 din sajha auna nabhyako...jug jasto laagdo raichha...aja pani auna napaako bhaye ta khutrukkai hunthe ni gaanthe! kassam! Saanchi...Kalankisthan byaak? Chiiiiiiiiiiso paani ko baaltin liyera? |
| oys_chill | Posted
on 17-Jun-03 12:42 PM
hyallu pbpd :) very interesting read. Like I was hoping to read more on Haiti. I hear you can get live zombies in haiti and all the vooodoooooooooo culture was initiated in HAITI :S ho kya? anyways back to the writing. yah! lekhnai parne bhacha..not only of DC, but of all the wonderful sajhaites I have been privileged to meet offline in the least expected places :) Hope you keep on writing..esp about haiti..very curious to hear! Oys |
| SITARA | Posted
on 17-Jun-03 02:10 PM
Najarrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, So nice to see you back! Been missing your presence in Kurakani! Hey, I had a wonderful time meeting you and other Sajhaites, as well as your non Sajhaite friends. I hope *her* finger has healed. And talk about " lasta minit" (non)planning! :) Nice write up... down the memory lane of Sajha history. |
| SITARA | Posted
on 17-Jun-03 02:20 PM
Rusty ji: Hajur ko pani quite an add on... nice, nice! |
| Bal Matlab | Posted
on 17-Jun-03 04:09 PM
Najar ji, Khubai ramailo lagyo tanpai ko tyo posting dekhera. Khai asti kasti tira dekhya ho jasto lagthyo tanpai lai yehi sajha ma, ek chin ta kata kuun chahi kuna ma luknu bho khai kunni..?? tara pheri dekhda khusi lagyo. I was a silent reader then, sajha ko yaad haru padhera ramailo lagyo. parkhi ra chu aru posting ko lagi pani... |
| chipledhunga | Posted
on 17-Jun-03 07:21 PM
Najar, impressive job!! Ani yeso Haiti yatra ko pani bayan sunau na hami Thaiti ra Bhotahiti bhanda para napugyaa haru lai. Ani Sajha kai kura garda I used to visit here once in a bluemoon until late last year when I saw Paramendra's thread First Time in USA ki testai ke bhanne. Right then I could not resist replying to that thread but then found out that I had to register to be able to post, and furthermore it required an email address. After carefully thinking about a thet Nepali name and creating a matching email account, Chipledhunga officially entered Sajhapur. After posting on Paramendra's thread, I came up with the idea of starting my own thread sharing experiences when visiting Nepal and thus started the thread Nepal Farkinda ko Kura. Since then, gajadi lai ganja chiple (as most sajhaites call me) lai sajha bhanya jasto bhaeko cha. I have been thoroughly enjoying interacting with fellow Sajhites since then. I have not only managed to regain contact with some of my long lost friends but also made many new friends. It has been a great pleasure interacting with people such as Najar, Arnico, Jira, Isolated Freak, Trikal, Rusty, Oys, gal1, Deep, Dhumba,Sitara, Prempujari and many more. Lau yeti bhandai mero dui sabda yahi tungyauchu dhannebaad. |
| lonely | Posted
on 17-Jun-03 07:32 PM
Najar jiu, welcome back...this was great...hope to read more about your trip as also... |
| najar | Posted
on 17-Jun-03 08:26 PM
Saathi haru, saarai ramailo bhae chha yeta tira, 10q 10q. Sabbai maa kritagyata gyaapan garchhu padhidinu ra aafno aafno kathha baandi chudi garidinu bhae ko maa... Rusty jyuuuu....nice narrative of yours,too! Hoina, timi sanchi dulai khojna gaa hoina bhanya nepal? maile ta dui char wota lai yeso dating sating pani lagyaa rey bhanne sunyaa thhe--tyo miss nepal contestants ra kunni ko ko ho :P ehehh lau anyway, timro target someone from sajhapur rahechha, janti jaana paiyos chhitto, hai ta! Simplegal--thanks for such warm a comment! I hope you have a fun/productive summer. My stay in geneva was memorable on all accounts. There is this cute cafe in old town that we used to hang out--Demi Lune, check it out if you get a chance. I think you will like it too! Haamro aafnai Poonte daiiiiiiiiiiiiii Darshan! Tyo Haiti ko capital Port Au Prince ra hottal maa sajaeko RHUM dekhdaa daishree ko jhaljhali yaad aa thhyo, tara teti khera mero US entry visa bhayi sakyaa thhiena ra kinina, ani visa paae pachhi, hidna paryo tooo, kyarnu dai ko koseli uutai chhutyo :(( nevertheless dai ko laagi ma aafai sahi salaamat firtaa aayi puge one piece! If i make it to the nyc before taking off for Nepal dai ra bhauju lai darshan garna aamlaa ni, hai hajur? :) oys_chill, my pbpb hyalluu :)) thank you. Me lekhing, tara lekhchhu bhandaa bhandai get tied up with other stuff, reading other's postings, aru anya kehi kaam. Pakha ek chhin maa ali kati bhae pani haiti ko suruwat garchhu. Sitaraaaaaaaa, thank you. how you? Good to be back and interact yet again. Excited as ever. It was lovely meeting you, too. My friends share the same sentiments. And yes *her* fingers have healed, i talked to her recently. Lasta minet pilaan fun, no? ;) Bal Matlab jyu--dhannebaad, khushi laagyo mero lekhai maun parai dinu bhae ko maa. Ma lukeko hoina, bhraman maa bhaeko le dherai lekhna worna napaako maatrai ho. Chiple, thanks a lot. I agree with your views--an amazing circle of good friends within this community. Haiti ko aaundai chha, kehi berr parkha. Lonelyji, thank you. |
| najar | Posted
on 17-Jun-03 08:33 PM
Despite cautionary warnings in getting visa stamped back from Haiti both from immigration advisors at work and friends frequently travelling, i decided to take a risk with a mind that at best i could get stamped, at worst could take a detour to Nepal. And so, off I left for Haiti with butterfly in my stomach--both anxiety and excitement! Fortunately, did not have to get a visa to enter Haiti for a stay upto three months --first time in my travel history because all else besides our chhimeki mitra bhaarat i have had to. Even when i travelled to belize last year, i was required to get one. But, I believe only four countries require visa to enter Haiti--Dominican Republic, Panama, China and Colombia. Much of information I present here are facts gathered from different readings at different times--mostly from a dessertation read of a senior colleague in Haiti. I know some of you have taken classes, are involved in projects or have family ties. Please correct, corroborate me as you read. Haiti, the arawak Indian word for land of moutains is geographically located in the western third of the island Hispanola with the Dominican Republic. The island was first landed by Columbus in 1492. Its closest neighbors comprise Jamaica, 100 miles west and Cuba 60 miles northwest. Approx a size of MD, haiti has a population of about 7 million. Although the two official languages of Haiti are French and Creole, only 10% population speak French and rest Creole.The original inhabitants of the island, the Arawak and Carib Indians were used by early Euopean occupants. The Spanish Colonizers were searching for the gold that was never found. Beginning in 1524, African slaves were imported to replace the depleted Indian population ( died in lack of immunity toward spanish diseases). The entire island Hispanola was ruled by the Spanish until the late1600. Spain surrendered the western third of Hispanola to the French to prevent the french pirate problem, who called their new possession Saint Domingue. During the French rule, which extended from late 1600 to 1804, an estimated 789, 000 slaves were brought to Saint-Dominigue from sub-saharan Africa. The labor of these slaves on sugar, indigo, coffee, and sisal plantations made Saint Dominigue a highly productive colonial holding. In late 1700 the liberation movement of slave rebels succeeded in driving the French from the country and 1804, the worlds only successful slave rebellion resulted in establishing an independent nation that was then named Haiti. Today, Haitians are mostly black with a small percentage of mulatto. Two thirds of the country consists of rough mountainous terrain. Climate varies from hot to temperate with humidity, with two rainy seasons. Hurricanes are frequent and primarily affect the southern peninsula, destroying food crops, homes, and cash crops such as coffee and chocolates, while the northwest area experiences frequent droughts resulting into serious food shortage. to be continued....... |
| Trikal | Posted
on 17-Jun-03 09:31 PM
Najarji, Welcome back !! Seems like you had great time in Haiti. It is always great to travel different part of the world. I really enjoyed your detailed posting........Funny and informative. Thanks for sharing with us. Trikal........ |
| Master_Of_One_Liners | Posted
on 18-Jun-03 01:01 AM
I'm sorry but that sounds like a boring encyclopedia - more personal observations needed. |
| najar | Posted
on 18-Jun-03 05:34 AM
Trikal Maharaj, Thank you. Mero graha ra nakshyatra maa bhraman yog thiyo hola hagi recently? :) Masterji: I am sorry to have bored you also. Aba facts lai maile change garna milena hernus--personal observation shall come upon setting the background of the place and time. Thanks for reading though. |
| ashu | Posted
on 18-Jun-03 06:02 AM
Najar, great thread, indeed. And everyone, thank you for your compliments and observations. At times, I feel like I've been on Sajha since -- to use a metaphor -- since the times when dinosaurs were alive :-) But it's been a great journey so far; and I have enjoyed sharing news, views, thoughts, and doing all sorts of kura-kani with you all. That said, should you guys ever come to good old Kathmandu, let's meet up and do guff-suff over a beverage of your choice. I have met a number of you already . . . in person, on your visits home, and would not mind meeting more of you. We already have a pretty good Sajha crowd in Kathmandu to hang out socially (going to plays and going bar-hopping, etc) from time to time; and the more will always be merrier. oohi ashu ktm,nepal |
| vivid | Posted
on 18-Jun-03 06:11 AM
Najar ji, Banki kahile ho?, pura bhayesi matrai gungan gaunu parla bhanera parkhya. Pratikchya garnu ta garho po huncha ta....... :) |
| Longwood Ave | Posted
on 18-Jun-03 07:55 AM
Najar: I hope that while you are in Haiti you will visit the clinic that Professor Paul Farmer from the Department of Community Medicine at Harvard Medical School runs which is a very well documented clinic for the provision of HAART Therapy for Aids patients and also for minimizing vertical transmission of AIDS. The povision of HAART Therapy in a way opened up the scope for promoting ART or Triple Therapy in many African countires and also in neighbouring India and China. I had a six weeks stay there several quarters back for a quarter. Loved the country and the people. The soci-economic conditions are so different, for the worse, if I may add, from that of its immediate neighbor, the Dominican Republic. I hope to read more of your postings in the future. from Longwood Ave. |
| ??! | Posted
on 18-Jun-03 08:09 AM
Najar Bahini, It had been a while since reading your interesting posting. I put off reading this thread until it grew a little longer. May be I am unique in the sense that I read the thread I really want to read and reply after it grows to 10-15 postings.. ehehehe.... One liners replies ko kura chain arkai bhai halyo.... Thanks for giving some credit (or debit?) for your one of the reasons to come to the sajha chat to my story about Gunaraj and Uma. I got an inspiration from chatting in sajha from its inception. Those were the days, when we had to invite people toto chat through kurakani section. "Sathi ho.. ma chat ma chhu hai... gaf garna aao ... xyz". Ekjana, duijana bata suru bhayera ahile sajha ko three-section chat room hudna samma dherai pariwarta n bhayeka chhan. Afnai kura garne ho bhane, "Ke_Chha", "Gyanu"... hundai suru gareko chat identity ahile "Gunaraj", "Ressham" ma aai pugera adeko chha....NK, Mins, Glas, Suna, Def, Ne0, BP, JDV.. were the early friends of sajha chat. There were some more that I can't keep tract of changing nick names. Writing was the third expect that I did in sajha other than reading and chatting. I spend a little too much time in computers. Sometimes, my wife really don't like my habit of giving more time to computer, that she thinks she would get, if we didn't have a computer. ehehe, jealousy pani hunchha hola... Testai ma bichar aayo.. kina euta story nalekham ghar ghar ki kahani sametera.. Fortunately, my early stories were popular among readers and got good feedback. I mostly write in rural setting and use local tones picked as such. Nepali has been a gift to me.. although I used to skip Nepali classes at high school and never studied Nepali subject in my college. Perhaps I read nepali stories, novels and poems than any other books in Nepali. Those were the days when I used to finish Prakash Kobid's novel in a single sitting. Bhairab Aryal ra Ram Kumar Pande ka satires; Bhimnidhi Tiwari ka natak haru; Laxmi Prasad Devkota ko Muna Madan; without naming any specific books, I read Lain Singh Bangdel, Bhawani Bhikshu, Bijaya Malla, ... what else... I read everything that came in my way... from Tota Mainako Katha, Lal Hirako katha, Pinasko katha, Pallo gharko jhyal, and ... Asali Sachitra Kok-shastra just when I went to middle school. Dharmayug, Kadambini gave me good knowledge of Hindi.. Hmm... may be I am out of tract. The reason I wrote in Nepali is that I would not forget it. ehehe,... When I came to USA in January 2001, I brought 40 books for my daughter. Bagbajar ko pustak pasal haru sabai dulera balkosheli, barna mala...balkatha sabai khojera lyaiyo.. tara, I doubt if I can make her able to read all those interesting stories of Rajkumar Dikpal, Sattal Singh Raja, Sunkeshri maiya, Bandarni maiya, Nak Phalne Rook and so on... I am trying.. she is four and.. she can communicate well in two languages...Nepali at home and English outside.... I hope my daughters will also read their dad's stories one day. If my stories has influenced some sajha posters to install Nepali fonts in their computer and read Nepali stuff once in a while, I consider myself successful in my mission. Lekhda lekhdai dherai bhayechha... pheri aru bela lekhamla... Najar bahinile lekhi saknu bha'chha Gunaraj became father of two daughters bhanera.. lau ta.. mero chain aba.....Juwano ko jhol pakaune bela bhayo... Please bear with any inconsistency and typos. - Gunaraj |
| Poonte | Posted
on 18-Jun-03 08:11 AM
Je bhne ni manna paryo ni :( mero rum utai chhutyo re...thikai chha...feri Haiti baata voodoo-soodoo sikera aaki holi, maanena bhane siiiiiiiiii fooooooooo fooooooooooo gardai thar thar kaapdai tyo Poonte ko putali laai suiro le ropyo bhane ma ta yeta khutrukkai. Thikai chha...bhaarai tyo liquor store baata aek sisi rum lyayera bhauju lai Najar baini le lyaideki bhandimla ni. Nepal jane re? Bihe ko kuro chalyo ki ke ho? ;) Raamrai ho...Nepal pugesi bihe ma ni aafaile kosheli kinnu ani tyo dulaha laai dai le deko bhannu hai? |
| VillageVoice | Posted
on 18-Jun-03 08:30 AM
Najar, good to hear from you !! I hope you are having a great time in the Caribbean. Hi NK, Biswo, Paschim, Ashu, IF, Arnico, Sitara, Poonte, DBB and all the rest. Long time really. Starting out to address an issue on plagiarism some three years ago, (ashu, biswo, NK, Sally, pls help me with the dates??), Sajha soon became a passion which would then develop into an obsession in the aftermath of the Royal Massacre. Hundreds of Nepalis, mostly living outside Nepal, came here to make sense of an event that was beyond their comprehension. Indeed, the Massacre proved to be a blessing in disguise for the site. The rest as they say is history. Like you, Najar, I have come across amazing writers - and minds - in sajha. Yep, it's been a great learning (and humbling) experience. But it's its sheer DIVERSITY that makes the site so fascinating -- or should I say mindboggling. Some eight months ago, when I found myself visiting sajha six times (or more?) a day, I told myself, "Gotta slow down boy." That's all. The site looks as much fun as it ever was, occasional spats notwithstanding. |
| Hellbound | Posted
on 18-Jun-03 09:16 AM
Najar, Very interesting. But, did you complete your mission? or did you get what you needed? Do you mind sharing that, instead of giving the history of Haiti. Thanks. |
| najar | Posted
on 18-Jun-03 08:34 PM
Will return to the individual comments shortly..... Thanks for the feedback, a reason (besides time constraints) behind doing it in series is to shape it the way people want to read. I know the facts I present are plain and dry. However, due personal interest, bias and news in my own learning process, have decided to include little more. If this is not your cup of tea/coffee please skip this section----i will shortly return back to personal observation . Else, jharko namaanikana bear garidinu hola ek kai chhin.... The Haitian political history has been unstable all along. From 1804 to date, there have been over 35 regular and interim presidents--dictators, elected,and appointed. US occupied the country for about 18 years (1915-1934). THe country confronts escalating health crisis from a multitude of disease burden. An interesting event--In the 1940s many diseases in Haiti continued to proliferate within human host. Yaws remained endemic. Efforts were unsuccessful, and with the discovery of efficacy of penicillin against spirochete, the Haitian govt launched an eradication campaign in 1949--the first case in the world where house by house treatment was used in an mass campaign (Noel, 1967). In 1937, an estimated 20,000 Haitians living along the border between Haiti and the Dominican republic were brutally massacred by Dominican Republic President Truillo. This outrage was investigated by an American, Mexican, and Cuban committee only to compensate US $25 per deceased. In 1957, Francois Duvalier, a black physician credited by himself with the eradication of yaws was elected president. He rewrote the constitution granting him the title of President for life, creataed a force "Tonton Macoute" in order to counter balance the army--they wore the red sash of Ogun, the voodoo god of war, and straw hats similar to the cacos. Estimates of the total number of Haitians who died for opposing him range from 30,000 to 60,000. Haitian predominantly practice vodoo, created by the African slaves. Its basic concepts are : there is one God--Bondye -spirit of ancestors well exist, each person has a living body and two inner forces. The central aspect is healing ppl from illness --service is key concept--religious rites (drums are extensivly used for music and dancing is absolutely necessary. Priesthood of vodoo contains both men (houngan) and women(mambo) and bokor, practitioners of black magic with no particular heirirachal order. Nearly all vodoo services has animal sacrifices. By killing the animal, life is released. Black magic vodoo accounts for only a small portion (5%) and majority is rada type for peaceful, happy purpose. |
| Dilasha | Posted
on 18-Jun-03 08:57 PM
Wow Najar! an awesome thread! The mayor of Sajhapur (hamrai San dai) has indeed become successful in fulfilling the mission of the website by bringing together a diverse group of people from all around the globe and have opened the doors of friendship among many of us. So thanks to the creator and the many gifted individuals who contribute to the perpetual learning process. And thanks for the wonderful information about Haiti Najar. I might never step my foot there but it is fun to know about different places, the people and the history and culture associated with them. Hope you have a wonderful vacation and btw stay away from those black magic vodoos whatever that is :) |
| najar | Posted
on 18-Jun-03 09:05 PM
Okay in light of increased lean of readers toward personal observation here we go: Two hours of flight in American Airline carrier, we landed in Port Au Prince--entry through custom was no hassle, just a stamp in with a greeting to have a pleasant time in Haiti, although the custom officer did say, after glancing at the passport.....Nepal, hmmmmm----what will you be doing? Is this your first time in Haiti? How long will you stay? But it seemed more out of curiosity than of suspicious cross-questions. It never ceases to amaze me--wherever i go to the extent possible, my mind compares settings with Nepal. Out the airport--i started comparing it with our Terai cities. The temperature was over 100F on a bright sunny day as we walked out to meet our driver Nader. Everybody in a blue shirt unform was trying to pull the luggage in an attempt to get $$. For every luggage they carry from the airport to the car, they expect a dollar (US) ( literally through the door to the vehicle right outside) . Many drivers were competing in an attempt to get the passengers. Nader, who communicates well enough in english (can be hard to find one of such command) starts conversing with us. My colleague knows him from the previous trips and as i was introduced he wanted to know more about my background. He said he never had met any nepalis in his 30 year of chauffeur business--well that had not been new to me anyway--even in the US, so no awe on that. We continue to chit chat as we make our way toward a domestic airport to catch our connecting flight. Our driver weaves through the road crammed with bus, car, taptap (mini van, small bus decorated with bright colors seating upto 10-15 people), bicycle and people honking for multiple purposes. We pass through the run down buildings, vendors, garbage piled on the street, broken lights and buildings no more than 3-4 storeyed high. The hills arround appear bare with extreme deforestration.Perhaps my dismay at the sight of the scarred terrain was visibly expressed, my colleague says----"Najar, you will like Jeremie". An hour on a small commercial plane (there was no wall behind the pilots and was cool to observe them directly and watch their actions) over the beautiful deep blue ocean takes us to Jeremie, the southern part of the country right on the coast. A friendly Haitian returning from New York was talking to us enquiring our trip purpose. Turned out she was a cousin of a our colleague, michelle's (name changedd) husband in Jeremie, talk about small world here! The plane lands in a small dirt runway. As assured, Jeremie was indeed very beautiful. Located on the northwest tip of the southern peninsula about 160 miles from Jamaica, it is one of the the most mountainous regions of Haiti. Compared to other parts of Haiti, it has more vegetation and greater rainfall as well with pleasant greenery adorned with tropical trees of coconut, mango, guava. Michelle meets us at the airport and off we head along the water, up the hill through a small downtown about half an hour drive to where we'd be spending another ten days of our trip. There were no more than a handful vehicle carriers we saw on our way up. Mostly people walk, few motorcycle were seen in the downtown area. Downtown in Jeremie comprised of shops, tailors, churches, school children walking around in their uniforms--girls with their hair beautifully braided in different styles, and people wandering around ,chilling out. A pleasant scenary welcomed us as we ascended up the twistier, bumpier dirt/rocky road to reach our partner organization site. Edna (the woman from the plane) rode with us with as well, continues her coversation telling how she is now tired of the US and would be moving back to Jeremie for good. contd....... |
| Prem Charo | Posted
on 18-Jun-03 09:23 PM
Najar, Kya ho ?? Sabai padhera kahile siddhine ho ?? Jahile Pani "Contd..." huncha. Yo Never ending story ho ki kya ho?? Prem Charo :) |
| TANSEN.COM | Posted
on 19-Jun-03 02:57 AM
i thing miss nazar is writing kali yug ko mahabharat. who can read that whol mahakabaya , advice to miss nazar stop to write that mahakabya. if you don,t like my advice sorry for that... but stup to be contd.... |
| najar | Posted
on 19-Jun-03 07:33 AM
Going in reverse order of comments--- Tansen jyu--thanks for your tips, i was instead trying to write a maha-bhramangrantha, not mahakabya, and will continue to do so until I am done. You are most welcome to just ignore or skip it. Dhannebaad! I am under the impression that i can write on this forum as much as i want as long as its not foul/offensive to others without people telling me to stop , ki kaso? Premcharo ji, Bistaarai sakielaa ni, kyarnu 24/7 sajha maa basna nabyaine :( Dilasha--thank you, the trip was a work-related but had extended it further for personal reasons. hey, practicing vodoo might not be a bad idea here, would it? :) Hellbound ji--thank you. Will continue to give an observer's account. The trip mission and objectives haru chahi sajha baata aside raakham bhanne bichar chha Villagevoice dai--good to be back also. Yes, the Caribbean trip was great. Will keep you posted more soon, before you jet off! Thanks for sharing your experience, and i second your views--tell me about frequency of sajha visit--I too belong to the oohi dyang ko mula :)) Poonte dai--kaa bihe garne bhanya, ma ta hajur ko saala lai kuri raakhya chhu :p ;)) Ani mero aafnai dai le koseli ra rum ko kura maa carried away bhaera mero narrative koseli chahi padhnu bhaena ki kya ho? no comments on that? :( Guna dai, thank you. My debit/credit to you was just passing it to where it did belong! It has been a pleasure to read your kathas, kabitas, and now ghazals of top quality, that too in nepali font. And thanks for sharing your own experience on sajha. Its really interesting to read own sajha history unfold. I am sure your daughters will read your stories, and hopefully turn themselves to sajhaites (isn't one already a sajhaite--poontu, right? :) Longwood Avenueji, Thank you. I would love to visit the clinic you mention, but unfortunately have already returned to the US this time around. But where in Haiti is that project based? would be interested to hear more on it. We work with Haitian Health Foundation based in Jeremie. I agree with your views on haiti and its contrast with Dom Rep. Nonetheless, Haiti seems to have attracted a large number of initiaves on health and development. I also enjoyed my trip--my only wish was i knew Creole or a strong command of French because there were times when people did not understand my anglais at all :( Vividji, Garne ho pura bistaarai. Kyarnu diuso maa kaam, little bit of slacking time postings padhna laai allocate garyaa chhu--evenings maa lekhchhu bhanyo-kahile saathi haru sanga, kahile napping, kahile TV, kahile ke ke garda gardaa dhilo bhaa chha. Hopefully will complete soon. And ofcourse our sajha ko khambaa--ashu :), thank you. Yes, will be coming to nepal soon--i know few other sajhaites are, too. Would be glad to join the club! And btw--one of your classmates is a mentor of mine, and also the one who inspired me to choose my profession. lekhda lekhda yo nai khandakathha bhayo jasto chha, ko kasko nerve taattine ho! namaste! |
| Poonte | Posted
on 19-Jun-03 09:24 AM
Baini ko narration napadhi sukha paai? Padhi raa chhu...bhanna po ke nai chha ra ahile? Magna bhayera padhne belama mukh banda garekai ramro holani...ki kaso? Hic...hic...kasto kadaa rum parechha...laagi sakyo...hic! |
| noname | Posted
on 19-Jun-03 05:03 PM
Aba Hya nachhiram, SAJHA ko sabbhanda badhi chaleko thread. Chirna ta chhire, TARA SARDARJI KO DARI MA CHHIREKO JUMRA JASTO (quote:Bhairav Aryal), ma ta haraye. DUI BISA ra EK postings, sabai ek pagi bhanda kam chhainan.. After reading first two postings from Najar, I could not stop displaying my nick here too. Najar ko writing ma kasto MITHAS ho! Hope to read more from you (No, not in this thread!! :) ) |
| chipledhunga | Posted
on 19-Jun-03 06:55 PM
Najar, excellent narration!! Aru khoi ta bhanya? |
| lonely | Posted
on 19-Jun-03 07:18 PM
najar jiu, aakdam man paryo....aaru pani padna paiyosh....hai hajur.. |
| KaLaNkIsThAn | Posted
on 21-Jun-03 10:06 AM
aaaaaaaaanch!! Maile ni padhidiyaa aaja. Bihaanai uthera, nuhaye-dhuwai coffeee soffee banayera chatta paleti kashera padhna basdyaa ni. Tara kyaa bore bhayo, To be continued ma po adhkechu!! Ani Ani ke bhaa re? Najar jyu, Kyaaaaaaaaaaaa lekhdyaa ni aaanch!! Malai ni Haiti jaanu mann laaging.. ehh.. Hazur le lekhya padhera sunda ta khoob mastana thaam cha jasto cha ni. .ehh.. Aba ko bhaag ma tyo romance-somance ko kura chalcha ho? ehh.. Just a guess... Nice read ni hazurrrr, worth my morning.. eh!! Desperately waiting for the remaining part... Jaawosh!!! This time I'll read your posting as soon as possible ehh... |
| chipledhunga | Posted
on 21-Jun-03 01:54 PM
Najar aru khoi bhanya?: Hyaa kurda kurdai kapaal fulna lagisakyo!! |
| najar | Posted
on 26-Jun-03 07:45 PM
Sorry all, could not finish it sooner due to other priorities. Okay, now here it is a final version.... warning again--its loooong and is nothing more than a simple musing, therefore read at your own risk of getting bored..... --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I was so tempted not to take prophylactic measure for malaria thinking in the back of my mind--"aaah, nepal maa hurkeko maanchhe lai ke quarantine, swarantine chaiyo ra", although 80% or rural population is at risk for Maaria in Haiti, the malaria being caused by plasmodium facliparum parasite, the most dangerous among the four causing malaria. My supervisor (MD ) had called in to the pharmacy for a Malarone prescription. He had said this medication has the least side effects. I went to pick it up just for the sake of it. I did not bother taking mosquioto spray or the roll ons either. My first night in Jeremie--my arms, legs start itching from all the bug bites that are in the air, and upon scratching i developed red rashes all over--so much for my self-presumptions, started taking malarone from the same that evening. Had to ask my colleague for an extrra mosquito repellant roll on to protect myself buried in rashes. Having slept really late the previous night in miami (did not get there until 11:30sh pm, shutte, checks in at the hotel protracted it even further into the night, and let me just tell you--if you want to fly somewhere to the caribbean or central american countries, get to the airport WELL ahead of time. You think we nepalis travel heavy--no! Anyway, had to get there at 4:00am in the morning to be able to board a 6:45 am flight) and thus, was almost a log by the evening. After a wonderul dinner serving of beans, rice, chicken (tasted and looked like nepali chicken curry), spinach (with aduwa, lasun in it), raw mango ko ameelo achar (supposedly was prepared by a sister from India who works at the organization), i was more than ready to visit nindradevi on a date. Rain, did not fail to follow me all the way to Haiti either. It rained really hard with lightening, and thunderstorm! There was a power outage, but was shortly restored. In my later conversations, i found out that power outage is a very common phenomena in Haiti, goes out every few hours--and the reason it was restored so quickly at the place we were stayin at was due to generator and a solar power. However hard the rain and hurri bataas were, it was pleasant. The rains hitting hard on the floor, trees, roof, the view of the caribbean, trees seemingly making waves of graceful motion back and forth, and occasional lightening was just breathless! And sleeping into the noise of rain hitting on my tin roof was something, i have not had had a privilege in a long time. Kukhuriakaas of hens, chirping of birds ( the place we were staying at is isolated and is in the moutain amid a huge forest) and an early sun rise peeking in through my window, and ofcourse dogs fighting and barking conveniently substituted my alarm clock. By 5:00am i was wide awake, and so were most of other people. Our colleague Michelle (whose family own the hotel we were staying at) has two most adorable daughters, who were my unofficial translators during my stay as all the maids in the house would only speak Creole. I could hear Delia and Micky playing and arguing over something in Creaoli. At one time when i was with them they were arguing with each other as to whose Nanny, Melina was--ofcourse, a non-resolving dilemma. Melina supposedly had started working for them after Mickey (9) was born. Melina, would adorn these girls with the best hairstyles, different each day. She also had a mastery in pedicure, and manicure through a training that she took in port-au -prince. Local habitants, staffs, and people we encountered/had to work with were very warm, and cooperative--always enthusiastic, complemented by smile. Most looked younger than their real age, and were short in stature. One habitant, that we had to meet up for something kept on saying he would have brought us lemons, oranges and mangoes had he known we had come all the way from the US! Another woman whose daughter had died due to maternal complication in pregnancy had this to say regarding her daughter--" My daughter was beautiful, like this--pointing to teh bougenvillea flower in the yard"--such touching remarks!! |
| najar | Posted
on 26-Jun-03 07:48 PM
Other professional commitments and responsibilties aside, i also had a major concern, to get my US visa stamped (had recently changed it to H1 from OPT for the travel purpose). and i had taken a risk, as the US consulate seems to deny most of the visa application. However, i would console myself--they would have no reason to give me a hard timeas i had all the supporting documents/reasons for my legitimate approval. One evening was doing some work at the roofed large porch, designed like a sitting area--ran into a german (NK, he could be related to you by law :) ) guest who happened to visit the area to assess its potential for development funding projects. Very interesting person to talk to with an immense knowledge of international matters, widely travelled, and opiniated without offending people. Among other topics, i was complaining my visa stuff, my experience of all these years in the US, family, friends and all the hawa guff/suff, and all that. All along, I had been thinking he was some young professional working for one of the multilaterals. I later, found out from Michelle that the dude was a german ambassador to Haiti. I was almost embarassed for my chitchatiness. In my subsequent conversations, I felt like i had to be cautious in what i was saying. He later gave me precautionary advice for my fothcoming stay at Port Au Prince. Also a nice gesture from him was an offer to call him should there be a need of it at Port Au Prince. ------------------------ Another vivid memory is the evening time. It would get dark by 7, 7:30p but the sky would be decorated with bright stars and fireflies around. Backstroke lapses at the pool while gazing at the stars began my usual eveniong routine before going to bed. Sometime Lisa (another colleague from CT) and I would talk long on several matters sitting on the edge of the parkhaal by the pool looking at teh ocean through the moonlight. And in the morning i would get up around 4:30 am to enjoy breathtaking sunrise view that would last about 30 mins. The sun making its slow ascend up across the ocean, and the cloud from the hills gliding sideways simultaneously seemed like some coordinated graceful movement of nature--i lackthe words to describe them, and will instead attempt to post teh pictures upon finishing the text narrative. ----------------------- Returning back visa highlight (hassle!?)--Michelle had called a senior consulate at the US to see if she could speed up the process for me, as well as provide a first hand information regarding my visit to them. As the rest of the team were returning back to the US that weekend, and Michelle was travelling to Guyana for a conference, they were getting concerned. I think upon calling, initially michelle was told that i could be denied a visa--that agitated and worried my team. But later upon explaining, we were told that i should be okay yet how soon would it be, was still not sure! I however, l had a return ticket the following wednesday. But believe me or not, i was alright--slight anxiety for sure, but was not freaking out. I knew at worst, i would just fly to Nepal! So the weekend after the team left, i got a chance to explore a bit more of Jeremie, and ofcourse hanging out with my two little buddies--Mickey, Delia, and their maids. ( I even skimmed through the sajha postings and peeked in atchat for few minutes :)) ) I spent the weekend reading (finished charms for the easy life, a wonderful book). I was also to get manicure and pedicure from Melina ($3 each, can you imagine?) and she was so goood! She would carefully clean, cut the nails, rub it with an eucalyptus and sandalwood oil, and apply nail enamel. Ohhh, how i wish i could have it again here! Melina supposedly understood and spoke some English, but was shy to use as the girls told me. The only thing Melina said in English after my *merci beaucoup* was "No prubblaum najaa(r)" contd... |
| najar | Posted
on 26-Jun-03 07:53 PM
On a hot 105F Sunday morning a native Jeremian, 71 with an energy and jaangar of mid 30s, currently working at Michelle's properties was taking me to the tour of teh village. He had earlier told us evertime there is a political conflict he moves. He had moved to Congo and lived there for 15 years teaching mathematics to highschool students. Political uphealings made him retrun back to Haiti, but Haiti was no better either--so he went to live in New York with his children and working at a newspaper press. Frustrated by individualistics tedency, and other political issues prevalent, he returned back to Jeremie for good after spending some five years in the US. Reminding me to take water for our hike up he said--"we are living in a bad era, you see. people are corrupted. Stealing, killing is wrong, but that has been a driving force today. But they will suffer, they can't get away from it" he said. Regarding Nepal he had to say--"oh yeah, i know that country--a mystic country with beautiful mountains. But these days--politics has spoiled it, too". Regarding Jeremie, he said--"but this place is very safe, you can sleep at this road at midnight, and yet you would be okay" At almost the top of our trek he showed me a small tinned one storied hut and said--"This is a house of a powerful witch. She can heal and kill, both" . I asked how do you know she is a witch. Marial--" She has a flag on her roof, and has killed many people, i know". He knew literally every passerby that would walk by us, and would exchange a conversation or two with them. The hike up was beautiful through a rocky red mud trail, but i was exhausted due to intense bright heat and a steep terrain, so decided to not go too far. Marial pointed to different plants explaning their medicinal use. He said family passes this knowledge from generation and generation (herb knowledge) and thus they have preserved the legacy. Pointing to the Mahogony tree, whose bark cut at multiple places, he said--"Young girls use the bark to abort their pregnancy"--supposedly the belief was that mahongony bark boiled water if drank resulted into an abortion, not sure if that is true. Also women soon after delivery sit on a vapor of herbs to clean their blood, body--a method followed by many in Jeremie. Now back to Port Au Prince--I did not see much a Port Au Prince besides the hotel area and Petion Ville area. Downtown and other places were seen in drives. Fortunatlely at the bank, I was able to get an appoinment for a next day to the consulate. The visa application forms at the bank were either in Creole or French. Not knowing any Creole, i chose to pick the French. Extremely thankful of a short basic French I had taken in college, i filled out the application guestimating! "I am going to take French again, when I return" I murmered. In the evening was supposed to meet a diplomatic American lady for dinner. On her to way to her place saw the downtown of Port Au Prince--heavy traffic, street vendors, people walking around, taxis, taptaps, cars, bicycles weaving in and out. My driver Johnson (Nader's brother) said--"You see Naaajar, you have to be an aggressive driver here, or else you will never get your turn. The distance betn any two vehicles were to the point of almost touching each other, motorcycles would make their way in from the side, a car would show up from a side road----similar to other urban settings in developing countries. Johnson showed me this huge white house with a big compound-- a Haitian white house, he said. It was supposedly an office for the Haitian President. |
| najar | Posted
on 26-Jun-03 07:58 PM
Johnson further said--life here is tough, you undestand. I too, hold a technical degree on operation of machines, tailoring yet am having to grab whatever opportunity i get. But, I still like Haiti. This is my country. The politics is terrible, but what can we do" Once we got to the Petionville area--it was a radically different setting. It no longer, looked like Port Au Prince. Beautiful houses, ethnic restaurants, art galleries, smooth road. I enter to my hostess's grand bugalow after being scrutinized by her security guard--and see a mini India in her house. Starting from her chairs, to Kashmiri Carpet, to arts and crafts to wall hangings, were all Indian. She even had a wooden ganesh and durgaa. She herself was adorned in a beautiful Salwar Kameej! A warm and friendly to the core lady she was, after giving a casual cheek to cheek greeting--she said-- " I shipped all these from India" Before Haiti, I was in Bombay, but since i was so away from my daughter and grandkids, requested to move somewhere closer to the US. She said, she enjoyed being in India much more and would go again in the future, very well in her next term. We continued our conversation for a while and off we went to see more of Petionville area. We stopped at an art gallery of a famous Haitian artist, Jean-Claude Legagneur. The gallery managed by Mrs. Legagneur, was adorned with gorgeous figurative paintings. My hostess and legagneurs apparently belonged to the same circle of friends and spent time together on regular basis. We quickly made a stop to their grandiose mansion, a very artistic decoration inside mostly with his own paitings. Mr. Legagneur was also very humble, and gentleman to the core to further complement his artistic ability. He joking made a remark--"Didn't Najar get my painting picture as a souveniar..aw!! my wife is so cheap" He however, gave me his autograph. My diplomatic hostess was at the same time saying---since, i can never afford your paintings, i have to be satisfied with their pictures or brochures. His paitings (based on my hearing their conversation then) were ---$30,000, $50,000 $75000 US to cite a few etc, and ofcourse the sky was the limit. Now i knew what i had read about the 1% of the affluent Haitians capitalizing the wealth of the country. Right across from where we were seated there was a painting with three orchids in a vase. He said--"this story reflects a part of my life. One orchid is the woman that had left my life, second orchid--the woman i was seeing at the time but was iffy, and third orchid is my wife, who was about to enter my life at the time.He had something to tell regarding each painting, and stories from his exhibits and people he met. Humbled was i to know them, such wonderful people!! After a round of wine from 1988, we headed out for a dinner. I was supposed to get picked up at the diplomat's house at 9:00pm but the conversations was nowhere close coming to an end. Oh well...i thought, i would have to add extra fare to compensate the time.... The talks ranged from the gossips of a diplomat circle, to events to their friends, art exhibit (s), Haitian politicians,quite interesting i have to admit. Was a treat to be able to converse in my anglais, finally as well!! -------------- A much concerned day--went to the US consulate for my appt, a looooong waittt--too much waiting around. Had carried BP Koirala's--Aatmabritaanta in my bag, finished about half of it that day while waiting. There was no interview or questions of any kind. I had to present my supporting documents, tell them the purpose of the visit, and wait a good few hours to know the status. I heard some 90% (based on hallakhalla, no credible source) of the applicants get rejected at the embassy. Finally at 1:00pm or so, they said my visa DID get approved--phew, i would not have to spend the rest of my life in Haiti, and could pick it up in the evening. An interesting point to note--i guess, almost all applicants were Haitians that they wrote HAT (haitian) on my nationality on a visa that i saw when i went to go pick it up in the evening. I called in a diplomat acquaintance telling the issue--he said, it would not be a big deal since it was an error on their part. My flight was next morning, and I too was ready to return, and had no patience to go through the hassle to fix it, which would mean at least two more days. Following successfully authorized to return, wrote in a few e-mails--- to my boss, and work partners telling that i now didn't have to step on a rickety boat to return to the US :) In the evening drove around Petion Ville area little more, and after an early dinner started packing up for my firti sawari. With a take off from Port Au Prince Airpot on the huge American Airline carrier next morning, i was trying to comprehend all these bits and pieces together, pondering, contemplating, thinking........this trip certainly has been adventurous! Suddenly, my thought shifted its paradigm to the other side of life that i would have be engrossed--conference to present in Lansing next morning, putting together the report of the trip, taking the different tasks further, tons of work e-mails awaiting response, putting together primary care course , papers to draft, sajha thread(s)--what could be up there?, cell phone, voicemails, e-mails, maamu, daddy, dai,, friends, all this and that.....and lost i was again in my wonderlust................. ----------------------------------------SAMAAPTA----------------------------------------- Bhannellai phool ko maala, padhnelai sajha ko addiction, napdhne lai kei na kei :) Thank you all for taking time to read and comment. Any further comments, questions, disagreements as well as attacks are welcome. and to conclude on a sajha.com let me add one more statment--i very recently ran into my chhimeki from good ole nepal days of growing up on sajha chat -- you listening, my chhimeki dear? :)) Namaste, and as belli would say-- yo kathha padhne sabai ko jai hos. I will attempt to post some PHOTOS soon if my technolically challenges skills succeed. |
| najar | Posted
on 27-Jun-03 01:22 AM
Deep Blue Ocean heram la 
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| najar | Posted
on 27-Jun-03 01:23 AM
Right Before Sunrise |
| najar | Posted
on 27-Jun-03 01:24 AM
oops, here we go 
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| najar | Posted
on 27-Jun-03 01:25 AM
the sun coming up 
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| najar | Posted
on 27-Jun-03 01:29 AM
it goes up little higher 
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| desh_bhakta_bhattarai | Posted
on 27-Jun-03 06:35 AM
 Awesome-- REALLY AWESOME... GREAT JOB, Najar. However, I have one "itsy-bitsy" gunaso-- I never graduated from high school. I just finished ninth grade. I guess you meant Junior High School (Eighth Grade) graduation. Nevertheless-- I just have one word to describe this thread: GRRRRRRRRRRRRRR-ATE héhéhéhéhéhéhéhé DBB |
| Poonte | Posted
on 27-Jun-03 06:45 AM
Khai...tyo ghaam uddayeko/astaayeko agaadi hamri Najar baini ni ubhiyeki bhaye tyo photo ko sundarta hajaar prati badhne thiyo ki? Thapdimna thapdim soon ma ni sugandha! |
| kalanKisThan | Posted
on 27-Jun-03 07:00 AM
Pooonte dai, Grrrrrrr -- I was about to write that after I finish reading. aako ta dai le lekhi bhyaai sakecha!! Dadagiri dekhaa ki kyaa ho -- gang lyeera aauchu monday ani dekhcha!! ehh.. Najar jyu, baba baba baba baba baba!! Maileni hazur ko book II chapter 1-4 padhi diya ni!! Beautifully written! Although I know that you are already in USA, tyo visa ko story sunda kyaa suspense laagi ra.. ehh.. laa aba ke hune hola re kyaa!! Achel long distance phone call khoob aaucha re ni ho? ehh - tyahi poland nira ko desh bata ni!! ehh!! Kyaa moj garya ho manche le haiti ma -- malai nai daaro laagyo!! Sounds like adventure of Najar Croft!! eh swimming, hiking, flying baa baai!! |
| Poonte | Posted
on 27-Jun-03 07:14 AM
Tei bhanyaa...kaam ko paisa le ke ke garna bhyayeki...jalan bhayo man! Kaam pani banyo hola ni? Feri fire hola hai! Darjanoun damkal harule ni nibhyaunai namilne gari! Kalanki...dada giri dekhauna laai ta chahiyo ni yesso kucch kucch paakhura ra Bon Vita ko taagat! Ki mero bhundi ra talu dekherai tarsine bhaye ta bhindai kura...Monday gang liyera aune re? Ma ta micro wave bhitra lukchhu! Damn! Bhandi haalechhu feri kahan lukchhu bhanera! Feri khurukka aayera 'on' gardela micro wave...bhaigo...aba micro wave bhitra lukdina...baru computer desk ko drawer bhitra luknu parla! |
| najar | Posted
on 27-Jun-03 07:52 AM
DBB--Welcome back, and thank you...Good to see you come back. Kyarnu, regarding your education status guestimate garya, close nai raichha ni :) La timi firtaa aaeko khusiyaali maa arko euta tasbeer hai. The clouds moving toward the ocean from the mountains during the sunrise 
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| najar | Posted
on 27-Jun-03 07:58 AM
Poonte dai...kaam pani bhayo hajur, tara kaam ko kura ta ke lekhai bhayo ra yaha, uultai sajha baata fire gardelaan bhanne darr...uutya maathi ali kati non-observational facts gardaa ta dhum dhaam bahiskaar garey saathi haru le! Kalanki jyu, ANNNNNCHHHHHHH :) baanki kathha lekhdinu hola bhanera kurera basiraakhya ta (as per first response to my narrative), khai naak mukh dekhiya hoina :( Thanks for inflicting the pain of reading an extra long read on a friday morning. La as per special request of Poonte dai and Kalankisthan jyu, here is my picture--San lai pani pathhauna parlaa feature garna, sajha maa :)) 
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| Hellbound | Posted
on 27-Jun-03 08:09 AM
Jeezzzzz!! such a long narration. With this thread, you should probably publish a book nammed "Haiti Tira Baralinda" Thank God, your visa problem resolved and you are back to the US safely. Honest feedback, pictures were simply "sucks". You could have put little better pictures, maybe postcards. I don't see any magnetism in your pictures. However, you seem like a good writer. I enjoyed your narration throughly. Bravo for the completion of mission:-) |
| oys_chill | Posted
on 27-Jun-03 08:21 AM
najar dizzzzzzzzzzzzu, haven't read such riveting travalogue in ages...(chipledhunga hear hear). It was not only your description nor only the pictures that kept me captivated, (tirkha lagya manche le inaar khojcha bhanchan ni) ho aaja bihanai tirkha metera tripta bhako jasto lagyo :) . I wish I could travel to those exotic wonderlands, perhaps will settle there :)...but still in search of suntali first ;) I must confess, while reading your narration, I have revitalized my interest in the book which i have been postponing for almost a year now A serpent and the rainbow by Wade Davis. A thrilling account of his encounter with voodos and zombies of haiti mountains, except for the fact that he can't relate to me like YOU DO :). I have been slacking with the promise I had made. perhaps, tyo account ni hajur le nai lekhna parla jasto cha :). Hope to read moreeeeee! hellbound jyu, I don't know how you came up with the idea that the photos suck. I am not just trying to flatter her pictures just for the heck of it, but I found the pictures of ocean and sunset equally breathtaking. Perhaps you are a professional photographer, but nature embraces those who are on the run like me :) |
| najar | Posted
on 27-Jun-03 08:23 AM
Hellbound, :) Thanks for your honest feedback, and putting up with the looooong read. I know, my photographic skills are minimal--tehi pani bhaeko taasdi haalam bhanera ni. |
| Horizon | Posted
on 27-Jun-03 08:54 AM
Sorry all, could not finish it sooner due to other priorities - Yeah Najar, what is up with this sluggishness? :p :)) |
| Hellbound | Posted
on 27-Jun-03 09:01 AM
Oys Chill, Don't be voguish nature lover. You can see such pictures of sunset, sunrise, deep blue ocean sparkling.. everywhere! anywhere! Come now, face the reality. Is that a bona fide Haiti that you see in the picture? To see Najars real Haiti, follow this link and see genuine pictures from Haiti. http://precious.org/haiti/photos/Pictures%20of%20Haiti/ make sure you comment on these pictures if you have spare time. See the real culture and see what najar talking about |
| czar | Posted
on 27-Jun-03 09:14 AM
Super narration ! It included enough details to keep the reader captivated while avoiding the pitfall of inundating them with innanities. Long before you posted the pictures, but based on your description, I could envision the azure blue sky and ocean melding together at the horizon that you gazed at. Your writing brought back many memories for me of other sunsets I've experienced in times gone by, on oceans far away. Your travelogue quenced a thirst I had not noticed and, perhaps, fired up the imagination of many here to try an adventure or two of their own. Thank you for sharing. |
| oys_chill | Posted
on 27-Jun-03 09:14 AM
hellbound jyu, no hard feelings..u misconstrued me. I did not say Najar jyu's pictures represented the WHOLE OF HAITI did I? but on the other hand, I don't think her purpose was to go to Haiti and SOLELY take photographs and enlighten us all about Haiti's culture. see hellbound jyu, that's why we all are unique individuals, and have our own aesthetic taste. I am probably the least travelled guy i know around myself. So putting things into right perspective, all i meant was her photos (and she's not a professional photographer by any standards) did not deserve SUCKS! that's all to it. oh yes, i enjoyed the photos too on the link you gave...got too much spare time.....but sure don't wanna be starting a "jhagada"....... tyo kamila ko teel lai kina pahad banaune :P Iti! |
| oys_chill | Posted
on 27-Jun-03 09:15 AM
hellbound jyu, no hard feelings..u misconstrued me. I did not say Najar jyu's pictures represented the WHOLE OF HAITI did I? but on the other hand, I don't think her purpose was to go to Haiti and SOLELY take photographs and enlighten us all about Haiti's culture. see hellbound jyu, that's why we all are unique individuals, and have our own aesthetic taste. I am probably the least travelled guy i know around myself. So putting things into right perspective, all i meant was her photos (and she's not a professional photographer by any standards) did not deserve SUCKS! that's all to it. oh yes, i enjoyed the photos too on the link you gave...got too much spare time.....but sure don't wanna be starting a "jhagada"....... tyo kamila ko teel lai kina pahad banaune :P Iti! |
| Hellbound | Posted
on 27-Jun-03 10:49 AM
Oys_Chill, I never called her unprofessional photographer, and yes, she didn't go to Haiti to take pictures. ooh! first of all did you check that link and saw those pictures? See, those pictures in the link go along with her description of Haiti. That's why, I was not enchanted by those pictures. Some people like Czar already started to constrict her travelogue into azure sky and deep blue sea, with his fancy Littérateur... How do you explain this..now   
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| Hellbound | Posted
on 27-Jun-03 10:54 AM
   Adios!! |
| najar | Posted
on 27-Jun-03 11:04 AM
Hellboundji, With all due respect, i request you to please post the wonderful pictures you have researched in new threads. I understand that you are trying to best reflect the narration through those pictures. However, i would prefer to stick with my limited capacities, for it was not my intention to provide the best of the best available, but rather what i could share in my own way, and what i am capable of. If I wanted i could have searched those pictures myself and any other sajhaites can, for that matter. More so, i could have googled and extracted a high class narrative on haiti and posted it here, instead of giving my account. You are fully entitled to your opinion and feedback, which i have dutifully recognized. I have also acknowledged that my photography "sucks" as you point out. Now, please let others to do what they deem best. Thank you. |
| Hellbound | Posted
on 27-Jun-03 11:21 AM
Najar, You made me feel like I intervened your territory. I never intended to do so, rather I was trying just going with your flow. What is the meaning of posting irrelevant pictures in new thread? Also, how did I interrupt others, for you blammed me -let others to do what they deem best. Jeeezzzzzzz! |
| czar | Posted
on 27-Jun-03 11:46 AM
Hellhound, You may have added the link to the photos with the intent of adding to the narration. Fair enough. But trashing her photos and subsequent remarks thereon rapidly dispelled the ambience she so skillfully created. Its Najar's story, so perhaps we ought to respect her right to pick the kind of pictures she chooses to add, no ? Unfair as it may seem, remember that the road to hell is paved with good intentions. Let's dignify Najar's work by showing restraint and preventing this from degenerating into yet another brawl. |
| TANSEN.COM | Posted
on 27-Jun-03 12:07 PM
yo najar ko karan le garda kalankisthan ra poonte ko jhordar fight parlajastyo 6 hai do every thing but plz no fight in the sajha room. |
| Soleil | Posted
on 28-Jun-03 01:58 PM
Padhey padhey.. maile ni sappai padhey ekkaichoti, aaja uthne bittikai online....eso bijuli patra chyaayera, khasai kehi rainachha, yeso chat tira jaana khojeko, najar jyu ko thread ma najar pugyo, dherai bho kurakani ma rumalina chhodeko. Je hos! dheelai padhe pani pura britanta ekai choti padhey. Ramailo lagyo. Aafai nai pugeko jasto anubhav bhayo bela bela ma, saathai Nepal ko yaad pani garayo, dherai kura haru mildo juldo payen. Shayad Amrika bahek, sara sansaar ma ajhai pani dherai kura yesta chhan jasle ti kuraharu agawat garaunchhan. Najar jyu lai dhanyabaad. Najar jyu.. tyo saag ma aduwa lasun halya nikkai meetho hunchha. Tyo banaune khaas tarika chha. Recipe chahinchha bhane $10 ko tikas taansera self-addressed envelope pathaibaksela, bijuli patra marphat:) hehehhehe Hellbound jyu.. hajur ko naam anusaar yeso adkal kaateko.. hajur narka tarfa sawari prasthaan garibaksindai rahechha... hajur Narka pugepachhi tyo Narka ko photo khichera lyaera yehan sajha ma taansera narka ko bayan gari baksela.. hai hajuur? hajuur ko pani travelogue padhi halum. :) |
| chipledhunga | Posted
on 29-Jun-03 07:00 PM
Najar, I thoroughly enjoyed reading your narration. Ani Thaiti jaana aghi pani kata kata ghumathyau ray haina..Asan, Indrachowk tira..ani Sajhapuray pani thuprai bhetyau bhanne sunna maa aeko thiyo..yeso sunu na tesko pani britanta. Oys, stay tuned hai. A travelogue is in the pipeline. Baru timro samjhana ko goreto haru kata bilae ni? |
| najar | Posted
on 30-Jun-03 06:56 AM
Some kurakanis i have been meaning to touch base, but due to digression, had to sideline temporarily Noname says--"After reading first two postings from Najar, I could not stop displaying my nick here too. Najar ko writing ma kasto MITHAS ho! Hope to read more from you (No, not in this thread!! :) )" Thank you noname ji--you thread maa najar overdose bhayo ho? :) ---------------------- Oys dear, thank you...suffice to say that had it not been for your nostalgic memory lane series, i would not think of documenting one. You, among few other sajhaites are the inspiration, to say the least. Tyo bhraman ko samjhana gorato ta timrai bhaag maa chha hai? baru we'll divide the labor--how about you 75% and me 25%? :) ------------ Horizon says--" Yeah Najar, what is up with this sluggishness? :p" Horizon, ke garnu, timi alchhi ko ta chhimeki parey!!sangat guuna ko faul bhanchhan :) ---------------------------------- Czar ji, thank you. From your postings on diff threads, i have gathered that you are one of the most widely travelled, experienced and knowledgeable posters. It is indeed a pleasure for me to know that you enjoyed the narrative. I hope you share some of your own sometime ------------ Hellbound says--"What is the meaning of posting irrelevant pictures in new thread? Also, how did I interrupt others, for you blammed me -let others to do what they deem best. Jeeezzzzzzz!" Hellbound ji, ram ram ram---i did not say you posted the irrevalent pictures. Allow me to make myself clear, if I may. You gave me your honest feedback, which i openly accepted--see above. What i presented here was ONLY what i observed, not as a tourist ( i was there for some specific task). And what i described was teh details of what i saw, and did. I was also explict in saying that i did not see Port Au Prince except for the hotel i was staying at and Petionville area, and hence no pictures. And plus, i was not comfortable posting picture of the kids/ppl i took photograph in the village, and hence the lean toward posting the scenic picture that SUCKED. Then you go on to provide a link, which was fine. But importing a picture stating that it would go better with my narration, telling oys_chill what he should be saying (not exact, but quite to that direction), and interpreting czar's comment for others-- is what i was referring to by saying letting ppl do what they deem best. And with that explanation I rest my case on this matter. I hope to interact more with you on other topics in the future. And btw--if i publish my book, Haiti maa baraalinda (as per your suggestion), will you buy one? :) ------------------ Tansen ji, i have travelled around Tansen area quite a bit growing up--euta khandakaabya/kathha lekhdeem? :) ---------------------- Soleil jyu---Darshan!! Ammai surya dakshin baata udaaye chha ki kya ho hijo? Maile ta hajur le sajha thread baata awakaash liyibakyso bhathhanya :) Thank you hajur. And ofcourse, would love to get the spinach recipe. Bijuli DHL baata deliver gardibaksyos hai? :) And halla sunya, Days of my life-II to be released soon re, ho? ;) --------- Chiple, thank you. I hope you got to read teh story before all your hair turned grey, sabbai ta fuli sakyaa thhiena hola, hagi? :) ani timlai tyo news report chahi kasle garchha bhanya? Nikkai accurate news pugdo raichha :) Asan, Indrachok ko glimpse ta maile diyi haale uu maathi (remember a friend ko fingers jhandai bhaanchiya), details chahi oys_chill le liera aaundayi chha nikat bhawisya maa. Okay enough of rambling, thank god it was writing...bolna parya bhaye aapat parthhyo ---have lost my voice :( |
| Horizon | Posted
on 30-Jun-03 09:58 AM
Najar say - Horizon, ke garnu, timi alchhi ko ta chhimeki parey!!sangat guuna ko faul bhanchhan :) Wow, good to know that you can be influenced so easily. I am talking mental note :))))). |
| Prem Charo | Posted
on 30-Jun-03 10:15 AM
Najarji, Katha raamro laagyo. Saro ramaailo garnu vo jasto laagyo. Tara photoharu chai khoi ke ho ke ho. Haiti ko traveling homopage maa gayeko jasto. Tapahin ko photo navayera ho ki. Yasto raamro lekhne maancne ko photo haami pani herna paaye po :) Hellbound wrote :" Honest feedback, pictures were simply "sucks". You could have put little better pictures, maybe postcards. I don't see any magnetism in your pictures" Same impression here. Prem Charo :) |
| hyaterica | Posted
on 30-Jun-03 10:23 AM
The heights of 'formality'!!!!! |
| TANSEN.COM | Posted
on 30-Jun-03 10:35 AM
dear Najar jiu u can write not only one u can write two... thousend mahakabya khandakabya .. kathaa jeje lekhne lekhnu .. tar sathi bhai lai plz alchhi nabhannu na hai ? A huh thankyou very much for the travelled around tansen area .. baru tapai lai tansen ko kehi le man chhoyo ki nai ...? |
| Poonte | Posted
on 01-Jul-03 08:58 AM
aeeeeeeeeee...tyo fotu najar naani ko? harip chha la! kina munto chaai uta farkaayeki ni? laaj laagyo? kali kali raichheu...lungi-sungi berera kataa laageki? paani bharna? lu, ma budhaa chaai aba gunta-sunta poko paarera baato laagen...najar nani laai suhaundo dulaha khojna...baldengra paryaa aankha, dhyabre naak, haatti-kaane, muso daleko jastai kaalo, nichordaa dui pint ragat baglaa jasto thul-thulo onth...any other farmaais? :P |
| Nepe | Posted
on 01-Jul-03 09:44 PM
OK, triyasi wota posting pachhi mero paalo aba. Najar ko pahile ka postings baata aakkal jhukkal impressed nabhayeko hoina, But this thread has completely engraved Najar's personality in my mind. I do not know if it is good to reveal it, but I have started to read Najar's postings with a different level of closeness and respect. And in my objective judgement, this thread is going to go into the annals of Sajha as one of the highlights of how Sajha was. Yes because of Najar's well narrated travelogue, but more than that, because of the atmosphere of closeness, like a family, like a home- she evoked among Sajhaites right from the beginning to the end of the series. Najar shared everything with us. Najar cared for each of us. And everybody seem touched by Najar's warmth and care. And she made us suddenly discover how we all are connected by a bond of aafanta-pan above our differences. Najar and this thread of hers has made Sajha a warm home. This especially will be felt frequently when some cold, bitter, spiteful and kunthagrasta poster will run amok and try to turn Sajha into a cold street. |
| najar | Posted
on 07-Jul-03 07:50 AM
Sorry to bring this thread back--if you are tired of it, please skip it...after all, how could i not acknowledge some of my favorite posters, ahem ahem... Horizon--should i sign on the note that you have ventured to take, to make it a laahachhap? ;) Premcharoji--thanks for your kind words, and sorry to disappoint you...ke garnu yestai ho..kunai cheej raamro kunai naraamro..as per my photo yo haandighopte anuhar herera ke garnu hunchha ra?!! baru yehi lekhai padhnus na, hai? Hyaterika, is it the height of "formality" or the length of "kurakani" whatever it is, thanks for stopping by Tansen jyu, honestly i enjoy your short comments, keep em up hai. Malai tansen ko thhuprai kura le maun chhoeko chha jastai srinagar ko daanda, tudhikhel, tyaha ko ramaniya hawapaani, tyaha ko dhaaka, karuwa, aadi iityaadi, aru kunai deen bistaar garamlaa, hunchha ki nai? Poonte dai-- tyo muunto uuta farkaako kaaran chahi mero anuahar dekhera maachhe haru natarshun bhanera ho. Nepe ji--aaadap hoojoor for your kind entry and nice words. Aapne ye achhi acchi baat ki alaawa ek ghazal bhi pesh kiya hota ta iish thread ke raunak aur tej ho ti thhi, :) |
| SimpleGal | Posted
on 08-Jul-03 01:14 AM
Najar, Your anecdotes are highly informative! And the pictures add the icing on the cake! Impressive and illuminating! Thanks for sharing them......ahem, how come we don't see YOU in any of them pics?? that would add immensely ..... don't you think? ki lajaeko timi?? : ) In peace. |
| rajunpl | Posted
on 08-Jul-03 10:22 AM
This was an interesting thread.I couldn't stop myself to enter this thread when i see the number of posters increased dramatically like everyother int. thread.I have been long off in this site eventhen i don't hesitate to read some post leaving all my business behind. well, najar jyu is your yatra fiction or non-fiction..? |