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| SITARA | Posted
on 17-Jun-03 09:20 PM
Goddamn blasted fingers, itching to write...is there such thing as a writer's itch I wonder? Is it synonymous to Sajha addictions? These days, I have been putting my fingers on a straight jacket, a perpetually wet nail polish, every time I get the Sajha writer's itch. And I said "goddamn and blasted" in the same breath, in the same sentence... is that profane, mundane or simply sinful...I wonder. Talking about fingers, a four year old child in my class discovered the power of his middle finger...quite by accident. He was trying to show his age by standing up his fingers when, by accident, three of his other fingers slipped and left his third finger very visibly erect. OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH!!!!!!!!!! went the whole class! The little boy, in puzzlement asked what was wrong. OHHHHHHHH!... I'm telling, Miss Sitara& went a little 5 year old boy. The little boy was amazed at the sensation and hullaballoo his little middle finger was creating. He examined it very studiously while the whole class went.... OOOOOH! again. Then I intervened and called him aside to explain that the middle finger in that position IS RUDE! Trust me, he did not get it...he loved the effect he was having on people. Next day, his mother brought him to school; his little middle finger in a bandage. Guess what, at dismissal, the little four year old had cockily stuck his middle finger at a seven year old ... who, ( in a reactive state of rage) caught the middle finger and twisted it almost to a corkscrew! Although, I sympathized and explained to the mother, my final verdict was *natural consequences*! The four year old now relates a fine tale of experience. Talking about ascent and descent, San took on the Matrix persona and descended with his flaming sword and inscribed in red: ****Please DO NOT USE foul and/or disrespectful language in your postings. IF YOU USE FOUL Language you can and may be banned from this site. In addition, DO NOT use the forum for personal messages that should have been sent through emails***** So, now change "Is Sitara Hot?" into "IS SAN HOT?" You wanna know? just try messing with the Red, hot inscription and see how fast you will be hot fusion-ed out of Sajha! San is definitely hot and so is Sajha! A thought just occurred to me; I wonder if CZAR did ever buy another Thesaurus? Talking about HOT topics; just read up Najar's Haiti, Guna's Gazals, Nepe's gazal 101 threads, and some personas highly combustible one- liners! And who can top Ashu's Hot topics? I have been silent reading the "Tourist boycott" thread, very interesting views there. Someone, accused "Free Tibet", a begging bowl personified; along the same lines... is Sajha.com a begging bowl too? My musing is... how close can we bring home such analogies and not get offended...just a random thought there! Talking about begging bowls, Tibet and Buddhism... I wonder how many know Zen is Buddhism?... ya ya, Sitara has been touted a preacher, ... she has also been touted a teacher, loser, weeper, rich man, poor man, tinker woman as well as a boogy woman! Oh well, so much for being Hot hot hot! He he! The theory of Convection strikes, increase the heat and there is disarray in the water wheel ( Lorenz's theory). He he he! Talk about * Natural Progression!* when in Hot Water! So, here I am... the nail polish has finally been allowed to dry so I can stop the withdrawal symptoms of Silent Reading. San San, have you thought of a rehab center where you can enter the CHAT TO SAJHA REHAB! |
| noname | Posted
on 17-Jun-03 09:31 PM
What should I say? I smiled, laughed, and got silent finally. What a beautiful reading!! I wish anyone never ever have to apply that wet nail polish! Isn't Zen=chyan in chinese = Dhyan in sanskrit? |
| isolated freak | Posted
on 17-Jun-03 09:35 PM
interesting.. i don't thinkj i know much about zen buddhism except taht its simple and believes in simplicity.. i think their way out of this material world is by simplifying everything of complex nature (s), just like daoism. thaha chaina.. took a calss on it when i was a freshman way baaaack in 96... la namaste |
| Bond-007 | Posted
on 17-Jun-03 09:36 PM
Finally....... got the whole thing in second attempt. It's always been a pleasure to read you play with words, Sitara Ji!! |
| saroj | Posted
on 17-Jun-03 10:34 PM
Another masterpiece Sitaraji! |
| kalanKISTHAN | Posted
on 17-Jun-03 10:48 PM
Aaaaanch!! Sitara jyu, hmmmm!! (Why do I try to understand more than I understand? Or did I understand more than I should have understood? Nicely written. Should I try to find the fourth angle of a triangle? My dead brain sees everything as a jigsaw puzzle) |
| MunnaMobile | Posted
on 18-Jun-03 05:45 AM
Hi Sitara, Good to see you back Was this the little Kid with the not so little fingure?? 
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| vivid | Posted
on 18-Jun-03 05:51 AM
Sitara ji, Funny, I was imagining the picture of hilly-billy greetings posted by Munnamobile ji some months ago while reading the rise and fall of that middle finger, then here comes the perfect picture again from Munna ji to suit your version, poor boy, only if his curiosity had died earlier. Ah! did the polish peeled off?? :P |
| SimpleGal | Posted
on 18-Jun-03 05:57 AM
Nice musings there Sitara....keep them coming. We may have our own Nepali Virginia Woolf someday.....Nice work. In peace. |
| najar | Posted
on 18-Jun-03 05:58 AM
After reading this, one song has stuck in my head that i watched few year ago on TV featuring Neelam--wole wole wole wole, feeling hot hot hot :) Nice one Sitara! |
| san | Posted
on 18-Jun-03 06:47 AM
Sitara, Very nicely done. Do I sense a mutiny? :) San "smiling" |
| Rusty | Posted
on 18-Jun-03 07:00 AM
Sitara ji, Very very interesting :-) Is middle finger really losing its credibility in this culture? ehe! In spite of that the power of flipping middle finger can't be undervalued. It almost reminds me of Eminem's lyrics, where he says something like "my middle finger is UP, now I can't get it down...." Swayed on Eminem's lyrics, I should probably go out there and flip my middle finger and get it slashed, like that little kid.. ehehe!! Everytime I respond to your postings, my remarks are obsolete. This time, I am able to take an action before your nail polish wear out and before you get TOO HOT and run for shade:) Very interesting... Enjoyed throughly!! |
| Poonte | Posted
on 18-Jun-03 09:18 AM
Middle finger...hmmmmmmmm...jhanakka ris uthda rise hune...ris selaunda fall hune ho? Aafu ta tyausi diver parim...din ko sohra choti rise nabhaye ta mari jaam mero middle finger...kun din kosle bhaanchidine ho... |
| SITARA | Posted
on 18-Jun-03 09:42 AM
Talking about evolving writers and their digits, I am glad that Khimu has started learning to label the parts of his body... but Khimu, hajur watch when you cross over to hands on interaction with labelling the parts of the opposite sex. Writers do need all their digits intact you know! ;) San fears a mutiny ? from Moi?? Noooooooooooooo!!!!! The Chat Room for Sajha rehab was only a suggestion to keep an in-house counselor for those falling off the threads. With all the weaving, threading, and spinning going on, someone is bound to fall off or tie her/himself into a sailor's knot or even an endless knot (Buddhist symbolism for eternity). No San, for some reason, your picture in the picture upload reminded me of NEO of the Matrix, the law giver of Sajha chat and the master puppeteer of Sajha threads! :P |
| SITARA | Posted
on 18-Jun-03 04:45 PM
Noname and IF ji: Since you asked, here is a short intro to Zen: Zen or Chan, Buddhist school that developed in China and later in Japan as the result of a fusion between the Mahayana form of Buddhism originating in India and the Chinese philosophy of Daoism (Taoism). Zen and Chan are, respectively, the Japanese and Chinese ways of pronouncing the Sanskrit term dhyana, which designates a state of mind roughly equivalent to contemplation or meditation, although without the static and passive sense that these words sometimes convey. Dhyana denotes specifically the state of consciousness of a Buddha, one whose mind is free from the assumption that the distinct individuality of oneself and other things is real. All schools of Buddhism hold that separate things exist only in relation to one another; this relativity of individuals is called their voidness (Sanskrit sunyata), which means not that the world is truly nothing but that nature cannot be grasped by any system of fixed definition or classification. Reality is the suchness (Pali tathat) of nature, or the world just as it is apart from any specific thoughts about it. According to tradition, Zen was introduced into China in 520 by the Indian Buddhist monk Bodhidharma. The most important figures in Zen's early development, which is distinctively Chinese, were Hui-neng, Te-shan, and Lin-chi. Chinese black-ink painting during the Song dynasty (960-1279) became one of the finest artistic expressions of the Zen school. http://encarta.msn.com/encnet/refpages/RefArticle.aspx?refid=761574389 Bond ji, Saroj ji, Kalanki, Vivid and Poonte: Thank you for taking the time to read my tongue-in cheek musings... tyahi ho an idle mind.... :) Munnamobile ji: That kid seems to know what he is doing! Apt picture ni! My student's exploring mind/finger came to a screeching haltafter the fateful day. Najar and S. Gal: Silly as it may sound, hotness has taken many shapes, forms and temperatures these days, especially in Sajha. Kalanki ji: Did you see the whole pic in the jigzaw or just fragments floating/flapping around? :) |
| Dilasha | Posted
on 18-Jun-03 09:06 PM
Nice one Sitara! Needless to say you are a very prolific writer. |
| le chef du nuit | Posted
on 19-Jun-03 12:15 AM
extreme mysticism smacks of folly the spirt certainly is elevated than the physical but without the physical, the spirit cannot exist didnt buddha himself teach the way of the middle path? |
| Master_Of_One_Liners | Posted
on 19-Jun-03 01:39 AM
All the schmoozing may well be justified, but PROLIFIC? |
| SITARA | Posted
on 19-Jun-03 05:50 PM
Dilasha: So nice to see you again. I see that you are back in Sajha with book topics. Thank you for reading. Le chef ji: And how well versed you seem to be (while I struggle to comprehend)... but extreme mysticism? Master of onelinersji: Your oneliners are prolific in themselves! And, this ain't no schmoozing... use the truth table on this one! :) |
| ruck | Posted
on 19-Jun-03 06:55 PM
Dijju, maile ta thread ko subject herera ignore garira yo thread lai.. hehhehehe very nicely written.. :-)) aba ta summer vacation pani suru bhayo..hope we can have more and more stories/poetries/ ariticles coming from that end.. :-)) |
| Bhunte | Posted
on 19-Jun-03 07:26 PM
Dijju Bahini ju dai bhinaju juwai bhanja bhanji bhatija bhatiji jo jo hunu hunchha sabai jana summer vacation ma hamro gaun ma aunu ko lagi nimtho chha...plane bhada hajur haru ko, khane basne ghumne car ko free ma bebastha ma gari dinchhu. Happy Summer! |
| lonely | Posted
on 19-Jun-03 07:36 PM
bhunte dai, ka ko ho yo offer, aali cristal clear pardinu paryo.. hai hajur..... |
| ruck | Posted
on 19-Jun-03 07:43 PM
ani bhunte gaam chahi kata paryo kunni? esto nimto ma ta ali thekana pani chahincha ni :-)) |
| Bhunte | Posted
on 19-Jun-03 07:52 PM
Lonely bhai, Yo offer Paradise Land bata ho....You will enjoy middle of ocean...you can also join the party...yo mero graduation ko offer ho hai... Ruck: Maile hajur lai astinai bhetda mero gaun ko thegana bhanina ra? Dijju lai ta tha chhandai chha, hajur le birsanu bhayeko bhaye bhannus na. ma euta patra hulak sajha bata pathamla ni ta teso bhaye ...hajur ta kasto JT ra budhi ama jasto bhusukkai birsane rog lageko ta...ehehehe |
| le chef du nuit | Posted
on 19-Jun-03 09:12 PM
sitarajyu that was a posting in an intoxicated state, and it wasnt refering to what you said. truth be said, id been thinking about similar things, and the chain of thought just broke in a weird place and the words just tumbled out but, everything exists only in relationship to something else, that there is no individuality? hold on theres a lot of criticism for the scientific process because it fails to transcend physical barriers. gives no importance to the spiritual realm isnt 'nothing is real' the extreme opposite? it denys the importance of the physical. hence the importance of the middle path.. treat both equally, because both are equally real. if you and i had no physical reality, we would not have the capacity to think. we would have no conciousness. ani hajur, as for being well-versed, i simply am not i dont know anything about zen buddhism, except for what you have written :) but if you wish to give me a few pointers on where i could learn, i would love to be able to argue |
| Master_Of_One_Liners | Posted
on 20-Jun-03 04:14 AM
I just find it hilarious that Buddha died from eating too much pork. |
| Master_Of_One_Liners | Posted
on 20-Jun-03 04:55 AM
Consulted truth table - I am prolific indeed. |
| Hellbound | Posted
on 20-Jun-03 07:41 AM
Sitara, Very nice, Zen master! I didn't know that you are spiritualized by Zen modus operandi. In your writing, I can see lots of self-transcendence and many parallels, that are to be found between logotherapeutic techniques and those of Zen, including glimmerings of enlightenmental insight. Excellent! |
| Hellbound | Posted
on 20-Jun-03 07:51 AM
Logotherapeutic techniques in the sense that insignia of mid-fig. |
| Bal Matlab | Posted
on 20-Jun-03 10:27 AM
Sitara ji, Good one. I found it very interesting that, at one's such ealry age can he/she be such tempted towards being the point attention/attraction. |
| qallu | Posted
on 20-Jun-03 10:46 AM
........With all the weaving, threading, and spinning going on, someone is bound to fall off or tie her/himself into a sailor's knot or even an endless knot (Buddhist symbolism for eternity). how about a slipknot? |
| knt | Posted
on 20-Jun-03 10:50 AM
Hmm, how about a hangman's knot? |
| SITARA | Posted
on 20-Jun-03 11:31 AM
Slipknot and/or a Hangman's knot??? I Think NOT! I don't think Knot! Notting Doing! Quallu and Knt= Knotcrackers??? Knt=knot, not or nut? :p |
| qallu | Posted
on 20-Jun-03 12:18 PM
Me am not a knotcracker. Not a cracker either and surely not a knot (slip, especailly). But maybe a cracker of nuts** - peanuts, cashewnuts, brazilian nuts, and all the sundry nuts* that you meet in the bato. |
| SITARA | Posted
on 20-Jun-03 12:36 PM
Quallu ji You and Slipknot nutty buddies????? :0 |
| SITARA | Posted
on 20-Jun-03 12:40 PM
"Posted on 06-20-03 4:14 AM Reply | Notify Admin just find it hilarious that Buddha died from eating too much pork" --- Master of oneliners Hilarious....indeed, your humor, very porky! |
| qallu | Posted
on 20-Jun-03 12:51 PM
http://prosouthentertainment.com/artists/bands/NuttyBuddies.htm Which one is the nuttier buddy? Or is is it knottier buddy or is it naughtier body? |
| SITARA | Posted
on 20-Jun-03 03:22 PM
Hellbound ji: Nice observations there! I was "afraid" of touting Logotherapy for fear of being accused a Spiritual Psychotherapist Preacher! :P But you are correct, although not well-versed in either( logotherapy and/or Zen), I have explored enough to be impacted by the simplicity in Zen and Frankl's philosophy of "freedom with a responsibility". Also, he stresses on freedom of will and the ability of the will to rise above situations....mainly freedom through detachment. Logotherapy was put to severe test when he, himself was locked up in Auschwitz and Dachau for three years. While in the concentration camps, he recorded his experiences there; his personal triumph over unimaginable horrors stands as a persuasive testimony to the freedom of will and strength of detachment. Thank you, for taking me down this path... brought on a smile this Friday. :) |
| SITARA | Posted
on 20-Jun-03 07:12 PM
Quallu: Which one art thou? The Nut or the Nut-cracker? :) Ruck: Trust you to venture gingerly into this thread! :) Well, I'm glad you did. Bhunte ji: I will most probably come to your gaon coming Christmas break. Will let you know if/when I do. |
| KalAnkIsThaN | Posted
on 20-Jun-03 09:22 PM
>>Kalanki >>Did you see the whole pic in the jigzaw or just fragments floating/flapping around? Now that's an interesting question -- interesting enuff to engage my already confused head in confusion. How you niiii!! ;) |
| qallu | Posted
on 21-Jun-03 07:28 AM
Sitara: you got both markets cornered from what I hear. :P |
| SITARA | Posted
on 21-Jun-03 03:30 PM
Qallu ji: Do I look like a Parakeet? kyaaaaaaaaaaa! hehe! Kalanki ji: You often times zoom into the fragments to absorb the essence of any subject, but done with such deceptive nonchalance. |
| Nepe | Posted
on 22-Jun-03 09:11 AM
I was strongly touched Sitara's yet another balmy piece. It is a beautiful collage of normal things lying around between Sitara and us. The uniqeness of Sitara's writing is that she takes us to a point which is often separated from where ordinary crowd stands to watch ramita and thus give us a different viewing angle. And that is why it is always refreshing (may be alarming to some) to read Sitara. I did not have anything equipollent to add. So was a silent reader. I find le chef du nuit ji also trying to open an interesting discussion- about limitation of both physical science and spirituality and hence the importance of a middle path. Or did I misunderstand ? I consider myself as a traveler of a middle path. However, my middle path is not a separate path. Actually there is not a path at all. I put one foot on the path of science and the other on the path of spirituality. So it is only my gravity that is in the middle path or more accurately the position. Anyway, I would love to read more musings on this too. |
| NK | Posted
on 22-Jun-03 01:04 PM
Ah, the reverie.. amusing musing(s):) |
| Hellbound | Posted
on 25-Jun-03 08:58 AM
SITARA, Now, you're really speaking Zen-language; Of course behind Zen philosophy, there is a vivid theme to be discovered, and the theme is open to discourse in surprising ways because it has no solidified meaning -- the relativity and flux of life itself is being pointed to and it is usually the tool of language that is used in such pointing. Exploring freedom in Zen religion, I liked the the notion that freedom is a spiritual dimension independent from cultural constraint and definition. It was therefore easy for Westerners to interpret Zen enlightenment in terms of a liberation from social constraint into a transcendent spiritual dimension providing a sort of ego-free power. The individual is marked by his or her differentiation from others in society through the development of a unique identity relatively free from social coercion through self-possessed power and maturity. Liberation is conceived as the attainment of such distinction. However, there can be dualism.... |
| Nepe | Posted
on 25-Jun-03 01:01 PM
Hellbound wrote: "...there is a vivid theme to be discovered, and the theme is open to discourse in surprising ways because it has no solidified meaning -- the relativity and flux of life itself is being pointed to and it is usually the tool of language that is used in such pointing...........The individual is marked by his or her differentiation from others in society through the development of a unique identity relatively free from social coercion through self-possessed power and maturity. Liberation is conceived as the attainment of such distinction. However, there can be dualism.... " Jeeeeez, Can you not write simple and graspable ! (Mauka payeko belaa ma badalaa liyeko ni !!) |
| SITARA | Posted
on 25-Jun-03 01:33 PM
Nepe ji: The intricate lies in the mundane. Humor lies in the reader's funny bone not the writer's (my impromptu philosophy hai!) NK: I am glad we find similar things amusing. :) Hellbound ji: " Liberation is conceived as the attainment of such distinction. However, there can be dualism.... " Hellbound Please complete your thought on dualism. Thankyou. |
| Master_Of_One_Liners | Posted
on 26-Jun-03 02:20 AM
Now, you're really speaking Zen-language; Of course behind Zen philosophy, there is a vivid theme to be discovered, and the theme is open to discourse in surprising ways because it has no solidified meaning -- the relativity and flux of life itself is being pointed to and it is usually the tool of language that is used in such pointing. Exploring freedom in Zen religion, I liked the the notion that freedom is a spiritual dimension independent from cultural constraint and definition. It was therefore easy for Westerners to interpret Zen enlightenment in terms of a liberation from social constraint into a transcendent spiritual dimension providing a sort of ego-free power. The individual is marked by his or her differentiation from others in society through the development of a unique identity relatively free from social coercion through self-possessed power and maturity. Liberation is conceived as the attainment of such distinction. However, there can be dualism.... Summarizes Zen for me - explain life with double meanings and unanswerable questions. |
| Hellbound | Posted
on 26-Jun-03 01:29 PM
Nepe, that was funny. I wish I would have time to paraphrase my points. Sitara, I will certainly elaborate on dualism. Actually, if you follow what I said from the beginning, it's not that hard to grasp. I will do that tomorrow. One_liner, your witticism has already crossed the limit. You better watch out where your tail's ending! :p See you tomorrow!! |
| Hellbound | Posted
on 27-Jun-03 07:52 AM
Sitara, I don't know why you didn't see the totality. Yes, I have said, "The individual is marked by his or her differentiation from others in society through the development of a unique identity relatively free from social coercion through self-possessed power and maturity. Liberation is conceived as the attainment of such distinction. However, there can be dualism.... " Sorry for the confusion. "Dualism" in my sentence referrs to the perception of Philosophy in the Western and Eastern society. Regardless of Zen philosophy, the Western idea of freedom is closely tied to the achievement of individualism in Western culture, while Asian idea of freedom is to have mutuality and social conformity, without any barricade. In the West, you individualize yourself from others in your society in regard of your sole identity, which is relatively free from social ties -- through self-possessed power and maturity. Thus, your freedom is visualized as the attainment of such distinction. Your individualism can play a role in Western culture to an extreme level that differs markedly from "Asian values with their greater concern with mutuality and social conformity". That's why, in the West, they have *dualism* in their understanding of freedom that parallels the notion of a spiritual dimension independent from cultural constraint and definition. Therefore, Zen enlightenment could fit in Western mentality in terms of liberation from social constraint into an inspiring spiritual dimension providing a sort of ego-free power. |