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   One can imagine the chaos of Nepal just 28-Jun-01 Biswo
     > >But it is also sad that the posters 28-Jun-01 diwask
       Hi Diwas, I shall be very happy to sh 28-Jun-01 ashu
         Sometimes there are no secrets, only par 28-Jun-01 slinger


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Biswo Posted on 28-Jun-01 12:22 AM

One can imagine the chaos of Nepal just by reading the posting of
gbnc site these days.

Visitors expressed their opinion in their name and pseudonames.
Since the mantra of this site has been in allowing all people to
write whatever they want in whatever name they choose,a lot of
people have profitted from this facility. It has also formed two
groups of people: one who use their own name, and so become
restrained in their posting, and the rest, who don't use their
own name, and some of whom sometimes just become unrestrained
though most of such incognito writers are the one whose
contribution to this site has been very significant: their
observation keen, their poem enchanting and their argument
invincible.

But it is also sad that the posters who use their own name
sometimes point to others who don't use their own name as the
weakling and necessarily wrong just because they don't use their
own name. Such prejudices should be given up.Either we should
say that we don't want anonymous postings, or we should give them
due respect depending on what they write.They should be judged
by what they write.

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Readers should know that Time and Newsweek and other magazines
tend to publish info about 'arcane' science depedning upon the
situation. When Christopher Reeve was paralyzed, there was a
detailed info on scientific aspects of paralysis in Time. CNN
published info about Cancer after New York mayor Rudi was
diagnosed with the disease.In this case, if somebody writes about
Amygdala hijacking in the aftermath of the homicide, we should
take it positively.Specially,since the writer wasn't claiming any
expertise on that.

I am a student of computer science. But, like most of the readers
here, I have interest in other issues also. I have some knowledge
on community forestry, economics, environmental science,
literature, and ,of course, politics. I once had knee problem
and was hospitalized in Shanghai, and at the time, I learned a lot
about arthritis in hospital to kill time. Such casual study
sometimes make us familiar about those subjects,though not expert.
Experts don't have to publish their stuff here, they can go to
international journals on that field. gbnc site wants casual observation that casual readers can understand.

It is quite understandable that if we don't want to respect
others, we don't have to ridicule them also.Also, we don't have
to rush to judge other people without properly reading their
articles.

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Let's move on.
diwask Posted on 28-Jun-01 02:43 AM

>
>But it is also sad that the posters who use
>their own name
>sometimes point to others who don't use
>their own name as the
>weakling and necessarily wrong just because
>they don't use their
>own name. Such prejudices should be given up.
>Either we should
>say that we don't want anonymous postings,
>or we should give them
>due respect depending on what they write.
>They should be judged
>by what they write.
>

Before going any further, please see if GOOGLE has its DEJA archives back online. A similar discussion on names_pseudos took place over there a few years (?) back.

When it comes to unmoderated online (or even print) media, anonymous posts is one risk one assumes while participating in the debate/discourse. If someone posts as NEPALI_RAJA, it could be someone's legitimate handle, just like BAIRAGI_KAINLA. Even you could not tell if I am using my real name. So it is impossible to require people to use REAL names without first defining what might constitute a pseudo_name, and there is no way to verify this (real names) in an unmoderated forum.

I think the burden falls on the readers/responders(?) to identify which posts deserve a response, and thus acknowledge the previous posting. If you do think some poster does not have a real name, then you can choose not to follow up on it.

Also, for the umpteenth time, I am amazed at Ashu's ability to decipher the pseudonames. jun benaami aaye pani .... . He may have his reasons, but I am sure everyone would benefit if he shared his secrets.

_Diwask
ashu Posted on 28-Jun-01 03:09 AM

Hi Diwas,

I shall be very happy to share my so-called "secrets" with you when we shall doubtless meet face-to-face in the course of our lives someday somewhere.

Meantime, you will agree that "secrets", by definition, are
NOT there to be shared with the public at large. Else, secrets wouldn't be secrets, right? :-)

On another note, I've been thinking a lot about the issue
of plagiarism -- an issue on which you have taken, much
to our collective admiration and respect, public leadership
in this forum.

I share your outrage at finding out that there are Nepalis in this world who steal other people's ideas without attribution
for fame/money.

I also share your outrage that there are Nepalis in the world who, for the lack of a better word, 'prostitute' themselves as writers-for-hire for harassed Nepali college-students pressed
for both time and money.

I consider myself a committed foot-soldier in your war against plagiarists and, I suppose, 'reverse-plagiarists'.

Please continue to take public leadership on such issues
that help us maintain our intellectual integrity.
I am behind you 100 per cent.

oohi
ashu
slinger Posted on 28-Jun-01 09:00 PM

Sometimes there are no secrets, only paranoia! :)