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| xserver |
Posted
on 11-Jul-03 02:30 PM
Thanks for responding me&bhunte thanks for understanding me
Let talks about serious issues here
As you know due to bad economic conditions in USA most of state raise more than 30% tuition fee but minimum wage remain same& let talk newly arrived students situation &with 5,000-8,000 dollar they will come USA without scholarship. there will no financial support from parents in near future so most of universitys minimum tuition fee 3,000 also u cant survive without cars so good car cost alteast 3500.. Cheaper than 3500 never know when will break down. If they share with roommate then rent (200), food (200), gas+car insurance (100) if there are under 25 need to pay more
total Around 600 monthly expenses.. about jobs as u know not easy nowdays lots of people came back from ocean city with empty handed lots place nowdays they will start to ask u original social security no and drive license numbers paper.. most of students already have stamp on social security saying not valid for employment.. even they will get job cant work more than 35 hours so 35 *4.78(5.25 minus tax) ==600 dollar per month ..now days it will take atealst couples of months to get social security , jobs, car by the time 75 % money will gone those he/she brought from Nepal . how will take financial situation for next 5 years???? .also if works more hours than it will affect study so if u get F in course then u have to reinstate BCIS so never know might get deportation letter..if they start to use social security no for illegal jobs latter on might get problems when apply green card through employer& those people already here 10 out of 2 already thinking about quitting school due heavy debt on credit card plus no money to pay tuition fees&.
Also hard to get real jobs even u get there likely to get reject labor certification so many people are starting to get labor reject nowdays. Then forget about green card &cant go home because so many people are coming with dv lottery people will compare with u in back home and laugh at you it will very humiliating situation..
Cant go Canada because with new laws u need to have master degree and atleast 4 years of experience and your spouse need to have a bachelor degree plus sponsor in Canada.. if u are not married no way u will get points..
Why u guys are taking about girls??? Think about get through all these problems.. if u dont have jobs,no money no stability how u gonna take care girl????? No parents and girls want to marry with u&. girls. u guys are taking about in ANA convention those girls either got married or got boyfriends or under age.. what a wasting time in this forums&.I have start to seen nepali guys even 30 age still unmarried same things in back home too.. even people married long time still dont want baby yet and start to hear breakup with boyfriends and girls friend and divorces in nepali community ..all because of economic condition &guys u need to grows up&
There is solutions easy married with American citizen second withdraw money from credit card then apply college in AUSTRALIA then go get degree make false experience letters from nepal apply permanent residency I heard if u have Australian degree u have more chance PR& I think still better than staying USA maintain status even u got job not sure whether u will get green card or not still have to wait 5 years to get green card through jobs & get out from USA guys before Australian govt chance new laws&&.
All this my judgement so I want to inside from you guys&
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| ranga6913 |
Posted
on 11-Jul-03 02:41 PM
you have brought up a very serious issue. You are right. Most Nepali students in the usa are living thier lives like in Hell. It's horrible. there is no way you can manage so much money working here , legally or illegally. And there is no way your parents can support you to pay your tution form Nepal. this is getting harder and harder. yOu are right... so what should we do? go to Aus as you've suggested???/
I think if you can get scholorpships that it's nice.. but not everyone is smart to pull out scholorships... goddd.help us out...
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| ugly duckling |
Posted
on 11-Jul-03 03:24 PM
I read a similar thread regarding expense calculation in a different thread. Most of your calculation is valid. However, I would not consider having a car is a necessity. I, personally, didn't have a car all through out my undergraduate career, and I went to a college in a small town. If you take out a car, gas, and the insurance for the car, your cost of living will lower tremendously. I am sure there several sajhaites who have survived or surviving without car in their undergraduate career.
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| KaleKrishna |
Posted
on 11-Jul-03 10:02 PM
Guys welcome to Taiwan, no big fuss. If you have some English command and can enroll in some univ, you can teach English. Get paid around 10-20 US$ per hour. Living cost is around 300US$ per month (minimum).
Tution fee is about 1500US$ per semester, chances of scholarship are there. Good universities, diverse topics.
I am bored being alone want some Nepali students to seek out opportunity.
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| Bhunte |
Posted
on 11-Jul-03 10:37 PM
What is the medium of instruction? Chinese or English??
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| KaleKrishna |
Posted
on 11-Jul-03 11:08 PM
Have to have some command in Chinese (classes mostly in Chinese), but at higher level like Ms or Phd the Prof can arrange to select classes that can be taken by students with inability to understand Chinese.
It is better to have some working knowledge of Chinese. Things are changing fast and in couple of years from now English will be more widely used for accademic purpose.
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| supergeek |
Posted
on 11-Jul-03 11:13 PM
Why are u in the USA? The whole world is wide open to u. Yah, why not join the guy in Taiwan...USA is a saaaaad case!
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| KaLaNkIsThAn |
Posted
on 11-Jul-03 11:15 PM
Xserver dude!
Don't mind, but I'd suggest all the guys out there, Talk about GIRL'S or talk about something that would distract your mind from all the frustrations and miseries. Gharai pindalu banai pindalu, sasurali jaanda barha haatye pindalu.
If that's the reason to worry about for you, I'd say I have bigger reasons than that. The more you worry about it, the more it kills you. I'd rather shoot myself than die every moment of my life worrying about something.
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| boke |
Posted
on 11-Jul-03 11:40 PM
I second Kalankisthan. And take heed of Ugly Duckling's advice. They seem to have good heads screwed on their shoulders.
Xserver, don't stress it too much, man. By hook or crook, you will get through. Take this as a challenge and figure out a way. When there is a problem, there will always be a solution attached to it. You are not the only one who is struggling. Remember, the sapling that weathers storms will grow to be a strong tree, the one that experiences no hard winds will turn out to be a weak plant and bear no fruit.
Hang in there, bro, you can make it!
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| san_deep |
Posted
on 12-Jul-03 10:33 PM
well, actually this is a pretty interesting topic to talk about.. well as said by ugly duckling bro, one doesnt need to have a car.. but actually its really hard to live without car, coz ppl wouldnt be lucky like you.. they wouldnt get all the things so close that they would just be able to go there... lets talk about getting a job.. what if you get a job thats far away from where you live and you have to be there within certain time right after dealing with your studies or whatnot.. i mean, i am a senior in high school and even i need a car.. have to go to my job, and then do some stuffs.. well, i shouldnt really be comparing my stuffs with ppl who have been having problem, coz i really havent been facing those kinda problems.. but still, i would consider having a car a better idea than not having and killing yourself.. and i dont really understand on what basis did xserver bro did the calculation, i mean, dont you guys think that 4.78 hourly wage is way too low.. i mean, if i am not wrong, then thats below the minumum wage.. anyway, i might be wrong, i apologise if i am.. actually i dont really have any idea about that, coz i dont have to deal with that..
anyway, as said by boke, you guys have to struggle.. i mean, you might wanna bust your tail, like try not to chill and save every penny possible and after you guys are done with your studies, then you guys can chill, but you might wanna focus on what you are here for.. dont just back off because there is some problem.. if there wouldnt be any problem, then humans would have never have to be unhappy.. just try to keep everything together, coz even if you guys back out, then you will regret about that in the future, and you dont wanna do that..
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| isolated freak |
Posted
on 12-Jul-03 11:01 PM
KaleKrishna,
Ni zai shen me da xue du shu?
ye,
ni xue xi shen me?
Lu
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| isolated freak |
Posted
on 12-Jul-03 11:02 PM
I wholeheartedly agree with KK bro.
"Don't mind, but I'd suggest all the guys out there, Talk about GIRL'S or talk about something that would distract your mind from all the frustrations and miseries. Gharai pindalu banai pindalu, sasurali jaanda barha haatye pindalu. "
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| Bhunte |
Posted
on 13-Jul-03 12:05 AM
oh now i understand why IF was opposing Tibet issue so much....any way ' ni hao'...
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| isolated freak |
Posted
on 13-Jul-03 12:42 AM
Bhunte,
I don't know what you understood from my above post, but as an undergrad student , I majored in Chinese Studies, and to fulfill my major requirement, I spent a semester in China. And at my home college, I took classes on Chinese History, Society, Arts, Films, Economy, Politics and the language. So, there's no hidden objective or agenda when I raised a few questions on Tibet.
Also, I did not oppose the Tibet issue, however, I did raise some VALID questions, and sad to say, that none of the answers, including your PERSONAL ones were helpful in making me udnerstand the issue. If I remember correctly, I had asked, what law/regulation/convention etc. of the International law we violated. That was it.
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| Bhunte |
Posted
on 13-Jul-03 12:59 AM
IF jyu,
Well, at that time the whole world was in one side of your stance on that issue. Sometime you should be complacent with the Nepali proverb that "Eklo Brihaspati Jhuto Hunchha".
About the PERSONAL stuff, you might have took that very seriously. Sorry if that hurt you (honesty, that was not my purpose...SORRY). But the context i mentioned there was as if kind of situation. Probably you didn't comprehend the gravity of issue.
I heard from my Chinese friends that Peking Univ is a very good univ. Glad to hear that you are attending that school. Best wishes for you!
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| Bhunte |
Posted
on 13-Jul-03 01:01 AM
please read the above post as "....the whold world was on the other side of your stance ...."
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| wizard of oz |
Posted
on 13-Jul-03 02:10 AM
American SATHIHARU, I did not know about the hardship of students in USA. Student life is almost same here in Down Under but the chances of getting permanent residency (PR) is high if you finish university DEGREE. PhDs are almost certain to get the PR. There is now significant number of Nepali living Australia, particularly in Sydney (about 12,000). Money is not that bad with a minimum pay about 15 Aussie dollar/h (@10 US$). The job scenerio for graduate is not bad too. Graduates can easily earn annual salary of about A$ 35,000-40,000. Its much more peaceful than US. Anybody interested to migrate in Australia can have a look at Australian Immigration home page. homepage:www.immi.gov.au.
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| Boke |
Posted
on 13-Jul-03 09:22 AM
Hello Wizard of Oz :-)
To what level do you experience discrimination in Australia? I have heard of few anecdotes that suggest there is quite a thick glass ceiling in downunder, but maybe that is a wrong impression led by isolated incidences. Btw, whatever happened to that fish and chips lady who became political force against the immigrants few years ago?
How do you find living in Sydney? What about Melbourne? What is it like?
Questions, questions :-)
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| KaleKrishna |
Posted
on 13-Jul-03 10:49 PM
IF ji
wo shi Taida nian shu, kasa wo da chongwen buhow, wo bu nong shie, wo kaeye thing da dong idian idian.
wo shue boshipan, hai yo lian nian. Ne shi wan lai ma?
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| isolated freak |
Posted
on 14-Jul-03 09:20 AM
KK,
IF ji
wo shi Taida nian shu, kasa wo da chongwen buhow, wo bu nong shie, wo kaeye thing da dong idian idian.
wo shue boshipan, hai yo lian nian. Ne shi wan lai ma?
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Wo Shi Tai Da Nian Shu, Ke Shi Wo De Zhong Wen Bu Hao. Wo Bu Neng Xie, Wo Ke Yi Ting De Dong Idan(r) Idian(r). Wo Xue Boshipan (?), Hai You Liang Nian. Ni Xi Huan Lai Ma? :-)
________
ni shi tai da de xue sheng. zui hao.
wo xiang ni de zhongwen hai keyi, emi you wenti. wo ye bu neng xie zhongwen. ke shi hui shuo yi dianr dianr.
wo dang ran yao lai Tai wan, ke shi wo bu xiang wo yao lai nali du shu, yinwei liang ge yue yi hou wo qu bei da du shu.
Lu.
Translation:
So, you go to Taiwan [National] University. Wonderful.
I think your Chinese is alright. I too, don't know how to write the characters, but I manage to speak a little.
Of course, I would like to visit Taiwan, but I don't think I'll be attending a college there, because I am leaving for Beijing after 2 months.
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| xserver |
Posted
on 14-Jul-03 01:00 PM
some guys serious on my issue but others are not...u are just knowing avoiding things that way wont solve problems, switching topics wont solve problem either... be serious guys...
I know bunch of guys here on this forum talks about anthropology, politics, arts,litterature,music etc
I know you guys are doing master,phd or going best unviersities ...overall seems like it u guys are theoritical perfect but not practically nothing... only styding not enough u have to practical knowlege too... I can go ahead type any topics u guys discuss on forum I can type topics on google get any article copy and paste here shouldnt have problem to showup u guys.. but I dont want to do... now days u can get any topics on internet even best love letter so it is easy to impress people..
this not issue here
forget about all those topics, discussion let talk again serious issue here... how to survive USA as student...???? u know we gonna problem money, going college, finding jobs etc let find out how to deal with...
forget about girls.. think first how to pay tuition fee and bills first...
I know nepali guys others past 2 years havent found jobs yet.. they are thinking going back home and again humaltion there...
with no experience there is noway for canada samethings with australia too.. It is not to find citizen girls here once u growth up or mature your ethic goes stronger so by that time u dont marry white or black chicks.....
our region lots of place start to asking students original 2 form of ID they are not taking photo copie of social security NO.. how will get jobs no way... find place where they pay u in cash not easy except big cities.....
if we are gonna back people will say u are looser return home with no money no green card at laugh at you.. if u are student cant save any money .....very much humilation...
I told that bunch of nepali students are verge of going out of status with no money for pay tuition fee plus credit card debt problems...
guys let think how to get throught this problems... guys from china, other countries plus ABCD might not understand all these things....one of friend change major even he got letter from BCIS ... BCIS will not let live easily here in USA.. those guys working h1 VISa already got denies lobour certificate only their option finish h1 --six years either go NZ young guys who just came in USA no regret big time why we came here???? if these continiue U guys probably will here nepali students sucide ......
forget about discussing aobut art, music, girl, sikkim,tibet issue let discuss how to survive PET MA KHANA CHHAINA chale calcutta.....
let TALK serious guys??
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| Bilbo Baggins |
Posted
on 14-Jul-03 01:34 PM
I don't know about you xserver but a lot of the students waste a lot of the money they make on boos and parties and complain that they don't have enough for school. For genuine students, though, keep trying be assertive and keep your heads up. Never compromise your principle. It took me 5 years to find a job after I graduated but, I persevered and now have a cool job! so don't get discouraged!!
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| Bhunte |
Posted
on 14-Jul-03 01:38 PM
bilbo, how did u survive in those 5 years.....
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| Bilbo Baggins |
Posted
on 14-Jul-03 02:19 PM
Odd jobs. Were used and abused by restaurants, both Nepali and Indians, ... Stayed with four other guys. We were paying $700 a month rent between the four of us. It was a dump, but it was ours. Bhaat... alu pyaj ko jhol khayera din bityo! Once a week we would have a special day, kahile masu, kahile beer, kahile bahira kahne ... but we made do!!!
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| Bhunte |
Posted
on 14-Jul-03 02:24 PM
Biblo ji,
Ankhir ma mehanat ko fal mithai hunchha ni sathi....but, still wondering what proportion of people represents your experience (in your opinion)...thx
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| Bilbo Baggins |
Posted
on 14-Jul-03 02:36 PM
This was hapenning during the early nineties so the internet boom took place and we all saw wisdom in taking a few computer courses and the rest is tech boom history. By 1996/97 we were all making 50,000+ ... not a big amount but for for a limited amount of teck skills that we possessed ... that was a lot.
Unfortunately to answer your question, in my opinion, the percentage of succes isn't that encouraging. All four of us happened to be in the right place at the right time ... we know a lot of friends that went to Australia, Arab countries and South America and even back to Nepal because they couldn't find jobs in US.
You know what though, except for the dumb political situation in Nepal, among all my friends, the happiest bunch are the ones that went back to Nepal.
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