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| lola |
Posted
on 30-Jun-01 02:41 AM
Dear Mr San,(and this one's for ashu too but not directed to him)
You really can't handle criticisms, can ya? I coudn't help but laugh at the way you responded as if a whole big wall was falling down upon you, as if someone was gonna rip you apart. Jesus christ!! one thing Nepali people really need to learn is to accept criticisms with open heart and instead of being so defensive and having a I-don't-need-your-criticism attitude, then what's the purpose of doing what one's doing? Even though you see sharp remarks in my previous posting, you could've handled in a matured and tactful way instead of wasting your time shouting back.
By the way, I'm sure there are very few people who like to use and see frames, hello!!! If you don't believe then you can even check out the daily blabberer section in sukulgunda.com. And as far as sticking to the old ways and traditions, that's upto you where as in terms of doing business or services the old way, you'll be a total loser because people like to see change and that too for the better. If removing the frame makes it faster, easier, more effective and interesting then why not create it that way? And that Mr San, was my suggestion. Thank you very much for your nice response.
And Mr Ashu, there goes the example of a Nepali who really can't deal with criticisms that too constructive ones!!!
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| Biswo |
Posted
on 30-Jun-01 03:19 AM
Dear lolaji:
I am the one who likes the frame. Don't you think the newest
look and feel is very quaint, and nice to look at [actually I
was about to tell this to san]?
It is also may be since I am from the old era. Afterall, we all
know there are still old smalltalk fans, there are still old
mac fans, and there are still those who programs in Pascal.Old
habit dies hard, I have a pdp-11 in my room..
Just because we like to wear suit, we shouldn't jeer at our
father's dauraa-suruwaal. When we grow up, we slowly start
looking better in daura suruwaal, believe me.
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| San |
Posted
on 30-Jun-01 03:34 AM
Dear Lola,
I did take your criticism seriously and I gave you the reason why this site still has frames. There's no being defensive here, you asked a question, and I answered your question. Didn't I?
Till now, I have taken quite a few suggestions and criticisms from viewers to make this site better. You can check the old threads for this. Anyways, if you'd like to believe that I can't handle criticisms, you are free to believe whatever makes you happy.
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| Lola ko Father |
Posted
on 30-Jun-01 11:01 AM
LOLA,
What's wrong with you my daugher/ son or both?? I hate people like you who only know how to critisize people who are doing somethig better for community. Didn't I teach you it is bad habit. Don't you know this website is non-prifit and SAN is spending his valuable time to design and maintain this site with no profit but for community. What have you done for your community??
Go get a life my ??? and meke me proud
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| Robin Pandey |
Posted
on 30-Jun-01 12:01 PM
Well said Lola ko father! San is doing a GREAT job! Some of you need to grow up or respect the elders who are wokring for FREE for the community.
There is a section called comments. Leave your concern there.
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| atrocity |
Posted
on 30-Jun-01 12:28 PM
Dear Mr./Miss/Mrs Lola
Whoever you are... What do you think of yourself? A Super Star, A Computer whiz or geek or Big Author or Lecturer or Copy-Paste Master/Mistress.....
Next time when you criticise people Don't hide behind the bush that also in a disguise. Try to be a Man and use your own name not Lola (girl name) or whatever!!!
This is a homepage for all local people so that person like me(who can't even type) can access easily not only for computer geeks. Atleast this website is not crazy and cofusing like Sukulgunda and other websites. By the way if you don't like this Web-site or it's Design, Why don't you use Sukulgunda or whatever pleases you. Or, if you think you know everything high tech, why don't you show something you've designed maybe you can take over this site design. Maybe San needs a break. So: RUN LOLA RUN.
It seems like you are not really very bright are you? Do you even know the meaning of the word ATROCITY???? Hullo??
You are such a great example of Nepalese who make mountains out of a mole. I don't think I will see any DEFENSIVE response since you must be pretty good at handling the critisism. Aren't Ya??
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| Gandhi |
Posted
on 30-Jun-01 03:48 PM
Hello friends,
It is easy to comment on each point but hard to implement it by ownself. San has done a great deal of work, taking his productive time, in design and maintaining of this site. We must praise him for his hard work.
I entered this site last February and I have noticed many changes San has made to make this site look better, be more informative and organize things. He has taken feedback from the readers like us about any changes in the past. In many occasions he has acted on our feedback immediately, like moving some stuff from one section to another, removing some offensive/abusive languages.
It won't be possible to satisfy each and every persons, as there could be two extreme views ant the designer has to move in between them. As Robin has already said above, we can use the comments section to give our feedback. We cann't expect a person to answer each of our comments personally.
Lets help San make this site better by giving our ideas.
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| prem |
Posted
on 01-Jul-01 08:57 AM
San,
This web site is perfect.
Thanks for your time and effort.
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| Another programmer |
Posted
on 01-Jul-01 11:11 AM
I don't think Lola knows what he/she is talking about. Changing frames to no frames takes about an hour, and it's not big deal. Lola must be some loser who's jealous of this site's success.
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| well wisher |
Posted
on 01-Jul-01 12:26 PM
San Pradhan was not defensive even to something as offensive as Lola said. I think he dealt with it in a very mature fashion.
But then maybe Lola had a point and that she is a little too young to understand how to go about asking for a change in the frames.
How about this Lola " San Pradhan, we are very appreciative of your hard work here, but I was wondering if you could consider changing the frames to a more technologically competent design? Could you please get back to me on that?"
How is that? That way Lola does not unnecessarily come out too brusque and she also gets her point across. But again if she wants to sensationalise the thread, then she can weave it the way she wants to.....This is only a well wisher's wishes...:)
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| Sunakhari |
Posted
on 02-Jul-01 10:37 AM
First of all, I thought this was something that San did on a voluntary basis - maybe someone could clear that out! Because it sure sounds worse than my boss at work when this "lola" person is reprimanding (huh??) San. And, my boss sure WOULD NOT be talking to me in that manner.
Lola, did you NOT know that the creative director's decision is final when it comes to design?? PLUS, San seems to be doing EVERYTHING, therefore it only seems fair that he use what he deems easy for him to upkeep this site. Now, on the technical side, I personally, don't like frames but San wants to keep them for whatever reason, so be it. TIME being a factor, I guess, ...if you were doing something on the side APART from your everyday stuff for FREE!!!! Would you spend hour(s) stuff?
BIG TALKERS LITTLE THINKERS!!!
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| JOKER |
Posted
on 02-Jul-01 10:52 AM
Just be glad that you actually have an outlet for your chatterbox. Its easy bitch & moan but hard to put into action. If it hadn't been for him your bitch-a-thon would have been impossible.
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| San |
Posted
on 02-Jul-01 01:05 PM
> First of all, I thought this was something that
> San did on a voluntary basis - maybe someone
> could clear that out!
Thanks to everyone who have supported this site. In clarification to my position as the webmaster of this site, here's my 'dui paise worth'.
I have been involved in this on a purely voluntary basis. All the time that I have spent developing this site is my 'dui paise' contribution to the Greater Boston Nepali Community and anyone else who feels it worthy of their visits.
The company that I work with has been generous enough to provide me with server space to host the GBNC site, that includes a high end system with raid 5 harddrives as well as daily backup and an internet backbone to Sprint, in addition to database connectivity and full access to the server. The estimated cost for this kind of server setup/space would be about 400 dollars a year if hosted elsewhere.
I feel fortunate that I am able to contribute to the community somehow and feel rewarded with the inflow of new visitors and more and more lively discussions, and the personal support I have received from many. However, I am also aware that it's very difficult to please everyone inspite of doing my best for this site, and trying to keep up with comments and suggestions from viewers to enhance the site experience.
One suggestion that I have not taken/implemented is the 'frame' issue. Most of the visitors seems to be fine the way it is. So why fix something that's working fine? Another reason, is that; while using frames, we have a constant menu frame on the left that needs to get loaded only once, if we get rid of frames, browsers would need to load that portion each time they click on any links in the site. I don't see how that would make it any faster and efficient having to download the same infomation multiple times than having to download it once. It's not like I don't know how to do it but it's more like it doesn't need to be done right now. It's just that majority of visitors don't really care for this change. I have been working the web for 5 years now, currently as web application developer, but that does not mean my decisions regarding the site has to be right. If anyone has any suggestions please don't just come out and say 'change this and that', please let me know why it needs to be changed and what it needs to be changed to. So, if there's anyone who thinks that the frames in this site is not efficient, please explain why you think frames are not efficient. If you think the technology I'm using is not functioning properly, let me know what would be a better idea?.. maybe a WAP enabled site? or perhaps an XML solution?..
Sorry that this mesage got too long but I think the long thread on my atrocities called for a longer reply. I personally don't like having to discuss my issues on the Kurakani message board because I think it's better left for other more important and entertaining issues. Would appreciate if the "COMMENTS" section was used for suggestions & criticisms.
May Lord Buddha guide everyone to find inner peace.
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| ashu |
Posted
on 03-Jul-01 12:36 AM
Hi San
Very well said!!
Having worked with many old and new Nepali friends on a variety of issues, I have learnt that the easiest way to confirm whether you are doing a good job is to find anonymous critics attacking you.
Anonymous criticisms signal that you are actually doing a good job, and that people are ACTUALLY reading and reacting to your postings or looking at your work. That's great.
Often, these critics have no faith and no belief in the
weight of their own criticisms so they either slink off to
private email lists and/or post their barbs anonymously.
When these critics themselves have no faith in themselves,
why should you, me or anyone flatter them by taking them
seriously?
One reason I like the Web so much is that, if you want, it can
be a powerful tool to keep yourself honest and consistent,
while opening your mind for new knowledge and new ideas and friendships.
Keep up the good work; you and I both know that occasional
unfair beatings we get on this site constitute a small price we have to pay to keep this site going.
After all, we've come a long way, from, say, the time when I was the only one posting stuff for a long time in 2000 . . .now,
with so many people here, we have an active cyber-community,
and you deserve a great credit for being a quiet influence
to make this all happen.
oohi
ashu
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