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| Bhunte | Posted
on 03-Aug-03 12:38 PM
Those interested in orphans' welfare in Nepal is suggested to visit the following website - http://www.ama-foundation.org/ |
| Bhunte | Posted
on 03-Aug-03 01:36 PM
Let me briefly introduce Ama Ghar.....Shrawan Nepali dai is the founder of Ama Ghar. He was a very talent boy, lost his parents when small, and was brought up in Paropakar School in Ktm. He did his MBA from North Carolina State University sometime ago, and was working in a very good company in San Francisco. Few years ago he founded Ama Ghar to help the orphans of Nepal. Now Ama Ghar has been doing great and the institution is being expanded outside of ktm. Truely inspiring.... |
| Rastafariya | Posted
on 03-Aug-03 01:50 PM
Yes Birader I is hear about him Birader Shrawan Nepali. I is hear him comes here and do good fund rising to help underpriviledged kids in Nepal. I is not unnerstand why them peopal in Sajha never talk about peopal like him Shravan Nepali who gave up everything to do good work. I is see here peopal only talk about them who is them making lots of money or power. Why biraders here never talks about how him making things possibal or how peopal can help out more for peopal like him. Here them only talks about them politics and them how much them one peopal making money or who is them hansome , who is them hanless, who is them hot, who is them cold etc. You see what I is talking about birader Bhunte? |
| Bhunte | Posted
on 03-Aug-03 02:03 PM
Yes RF biradar , I is agree with you. He even sold his house for the organization...so one can clearly see how novel Birdar Shrawan dai is...If I have to check in top 10 Nepali in USA, I will give a high rating for him.... |
| Rastafariya | Posted
on 03-Aug-03 02:15 PM
Wow! Birader Bhunte, Him Birader Shravan must be a great peopal. You is know him personalli? I is never hear any Nepali peopal give so much for them good cause. Only peopal who them is give is gives like 1 when them have 100. But him birader Shravan souns like him give 150 when him only have 100. You is needs to put his picchur in Sajha. I is love to see him Shravan Birader. We is needs to bring peopal like him Shravan birader in fore front and tell them peopal this is what them real peopal is. |
| gunda | Posted
on 03-Aug-03 11:21 PM
very interesting to see how flattery wins converts easily... |
| Rastafariya | Posted
on 04-Aug-03 07:42 AM
Birader Gunda! I is never unnerstanding you. You is saying that I is flat and them peopal like flat peopal? I is not get you birader Gunda. Yes I is have flat face but them my moda still love I. If you look I from da side you is see no shadow of my head on da wall. It just them flat. But please dont be calling that I is have flat face. |
| Bhunte | Posted
on 04-Aug-03 08:52 AM
Gunda ji, I dont know how u come up with such idea. But just feel yourself if you were in those orphans position. |
| gunda | Posted
on 04-Aug-03 11:38 AM
Rasta, I think you have a flat mind not flat face..... |
| gunda | Posted
on 04-Aug-03 11:45 AM
Bhunte bhai, its an idea that should be examined before jumping into conclusion, is he really an orphan?? Did he really sold his house to give for an orphanage, do you believe in hearsay? Does the facts means anything to you. No, I have not been an orphan, but I know lots of orphans of many kind... thanks. |
| Bhunte | Posted
on 04-Aug-03 12:12 PM
Gunda dai, You may verify if u have someone in SF area. I heard from couple of people there. Thanks. |
| Bhunte | Posted
on 04-Aug-03 01:37 PM
Rastafaria Birday, Sounds like you are sleepless. You earlier said "....You is needs to put his picchur in Sajha. I is love to see him Shravan Birader..." Actually Shrawan dai's pic and Ama Tika's pic in the homepage I have given above. When you are there, click on the ABOUT US tab. You will see their pictures and other details. |
| Rastafariya | Posted
on 04-Aug-03 02:14 PM
Thanks Birader! Bhuntey and I is click and saw him picture and read everything about Ama Ghar. What a wonderful work him Shravan Birader doing. Peopal should know that Being in America and learning all them English and them educasion is nothing compared to something lik This Birader done. I is just can not imagine how he is give up so much that all of us is trying to get. Truely an amazing person him is. |
| gunda | Posted
on 04-Aug-03 09:59 PM
While not to undermine the novel endeavor that Sarwan has said to be taken, we would caution people of exaggeration and self glorification. Its just another orphanage and I seriously doubt if he is the main financier of Ama Ghar!!! There are many dedicated individuals who love Nepal and are committed to helping NEpal so its not only Sarwan. In fact without their support there would not be Sarwan. I am interested on the issues of an orphanage rather than individual and what is our nation's priority, how should resources be used to solved the impeding problems. Idea of an orphanage appeals to Westerns and Nepalese alike "oh beechara ko kahi pani rahay nacha.. Bichara, bichara" but I wonder if it is the best way to tackle our nation's growing problems. It takes so long to get any return on investment from orphanage..... Would it be better to help SLC graduate or even collage graduate so that he can create jobs and help his/her fellow countrymen?? Just a thought.. |
| Rastafariya | Posted
on 04-Aug-03 10:19 PM
Birade Gunda! I is totally agree on your points. I is not know him Shravan. Maybe you is know he more than I . Them just self glory and them exxajarasions and all. Them you is know all about them invesment and returns and them orphanage and american and everything that you is know. With all them knowledge and them educasion I is just ask you one quesion. What them you is have done? Maybe you is have done a lot like them your leaders. Them leaders know everything, Them leaders talk about them hunger and working in da field, them leaders say them know pain and suffering. Of course them know. I is just wants to know what them you is have done to uplift . Probably much more than this self glorifying Shravan. It is just that you is do it in secret and without self glorificasion and exxajarasion |
| Bhunte | Posted
on 04-Aug-03 10:25 PM
Gunda dai, When you say "..It takes so long to get any return on investment from orphanage..... ", u weigh everything in money? Where is humanity factor? I am not glorifying anything but just wonder why u have so much negative attitude when someone is helping the most depressed people in the earth? Gunda dai, man ma ali Hari hunu paryo.... |
| gunda | Posted
on 05-Aug-03 12:50 AM
Hello Rasta and Bhunte, what it is that I have not done in my capacity to help myself and help the fellow being. Even to be able to share these thoughts on this forum equal scaling the Mount Everest for me considering from where I have to begin. Its a luck or karma or whatever it maybe but there is so much I want to do and would like to do but you know we all have different callings in life, one does not have to run an orphanage to show your humanity or manage an orphanage to contribute to the society. If nothing else I hope I have at least been good person and who have proven to nay sayers that resilience of human sprit knows no boundaries and that we all human being have innate power to excel and achieve impossible dreams and of course to be compassionate as well. You are right Bhunte, I put economic value above moral value, but in a long run I think greater good will be achieved if we can let go of uncertain fixes. I have nothing against Serwan or Ama Ghar, I find its premature to have celebratory pluses without knowing the results. I have seen enough deceptions, lies and shattered lives originating from an orphanage. The question we should ask is why there are orphans in the first. Is our society so mortally wounded that we can not take care of our own children, is our spiritual value is so bankrupt that community and society no longer care that outsiders come to take care of our poor and destitutes? What ever Sarwan and friends or any who tries to uplift the less fortunate ones should be encouraged and commendable. more later... For me even if you change one life be it be your family, your neighbor or a stranger you have changed a little part of your world. more later. getting late.... |
| Bhunte | Posted
on 05-Aug-03 10:32 AM
Gunda dai, you said "I have seen enough deceptions, lies and shattered lives originating from an orphanage." You probably write where you might have observations in mushroomed NGOs in Nepal or elsewhere. You might have every reason to be skeptics. Ama Ghar is contrary to what you are thinking. Shrawan is a great social worker without any selfish motives. Yes, he sold his house in Berkley to initiate the foundation and to materialize his dream. And, donations, fund rising, volunteering are essential to sustain such novel deeds. |
| Rastafariya | Posted
on 05-Aug-03 01:16 PM
Birader Bhunte! That what I is never unnerstan with our biraders. If someone does anything or even try anithing for good cause them biraders already comes to them conclusion. I is ask them what is you have done that is any good at all? Now when I is hear that him birader sold him house to start something even if it helps only half then I is not heard anypeopal do anything like that. I is just wants to know how much them this birader have done. |
| gunda | Posted
on 05-Aug-03 03:37 PM
Bhunte, ok... I have stated that I have nothing against this chap, I have heard romours that he is not even an orphan, he has father, in fact his father is in the states now... more later.. |
| Bhunte | Posted
on 05-Aug-03 03:51 PM
hahaha....gunda ji who told u? |
| Bhunte | Posted
on 05-Aug-03 04:01 PM
Gunda dai, Kag le kan lagyo bhandai ma kag ko pachhadi nadaudisyos, afno kan pahila chamnus. I know him since when i was small kid...got it? |
| Rastafariya | Posted
on 05-Aug-03 04:02 PM
Birader Gunda! So you is think only peopal without fada and moda is orphan? I is seen in my life lots of peopal with them parents still alive and not have means to support them chilluns? Besides what you knows about this Biraders Fada? Maybe this Shravans Fada is some CEO or some Doctor? Or Maybe him was always here in USA workin and never take care of his son? You is needs to find them facts birader Gunda. I and I not know but when you is say that him not Orphan and him fada is here does not make him birader Shrawan to be good peopal. So find out them facts and only comment then birader Gunda |
| gunda | Posted
on 05-Aug-03 09:26 PM
That's what I am talking about FACTS.. Since Bhunte bhai has been persistent on his views let me demystify some of the stories.. This maybe more than what you want to hear but here it is. They sold the house due to divorce not for the sole reason to open an orphanage. It might be true that he allocated some share of the money from the sale of their house towards the orphanage but to claim that he gave all away for an orphanage is streatching the truth bit far don't you think?? As for his father, I am happy that he has a father and that he is no longer an orphan. Since you know him you should ask him if its true?? Thank you for reminding me to examine myself, my ears... my ears are open and it can filter out news from views and romours and truth. ... |
| gunda | Posted
on 05-Aug-03 09:30 PM
Rasta, what is Birdar that you keep refering to ?? I no have interest on diging fact on somebody, me only share what I know... |
| Rastafariya | Posted
on 05-Aug-03 09:36 PM
Birader Gunda! You is knows a lot. I is thank you. I is not know nothing and I is always quesion when I is not know nothing. Now, lets see, You is know what them caused them divorce? Maybe it was his fada? or Maybe he wanted to do this thing? I is just seeing them possibilities. Maybe him wife not like his fada? Maybe him wife asked him to put all them money in Orphanage? Or maybe him wife asked him to move to Nepal to run them Orphanage which Birader Shravan did not want to do. I is think if I is accuse someone I is look at all them facts and them possibilites birader Gunda. Lets see what him Birader Bhunte know. I is also do some resarch but I is not know anybody. So you is needs to help I birader Gunda to make your points stronger. |
| Bhunte | Posted
on 05-Aug-03 10:28 PM
Gunda dai, All is based on my childhood memories (when i was 5-6 yrs). I never said he was orphan. All I said earlier that he lost his parents when small. What a child thinks when he didnt see his parents with him but him living with other relatives? It is good that you informed that his father is with him. Honestly I didnt know that. I dont know anything about his family life. But, I heard that he sold house in Berkley area. Part of proceeds goes to the AF, and it is very irrational for one to expect to contribute all to the organization. Ani Gunda dai market street tira ko ho? ek dui puff marna hajur kaha aunu parla jasto chha...ehehe |
| Rastafariya | Posted
on 05-Aug-03 10:46 PM
Birader Bhunte what them you is saying? You is not know nothing? Then I is not have nothing to write about . I is thought you is know him birader. So where do I go now? I is lisen to him birader Gunda? Him know more? Now I is totally lost |
| gunda | Posted
on 05-Aug-03 11:55 PM
My dear Bhunte, I am not furtunate to live in the epicente of freedom and inovation like you, sorry himalayan herb never did liked me so I have grown my affinity with homemade chang and aila which I would be happy to share with you if you ever make it across the pacific, until them be good, keep your mind open but not wide open for people to throw garbages... do what you can and god will do what you can not.. With blessing.. |
| gunda | Posted
on 06-Aug-03 12:00 AM
oh, by the way sarwan might be right candidate to light the fire sometime... I am too far away.. beside I am with the spirit of the grain and water not of leaves and air.. |
| gunda | Posted
on 06-Aug-03 12:03 AM
Rasta Jee " all truths are equally true but not equally important" best of luck to you. I am sure I will see you around... |
| rendra wasito | Posted
on 06-Aug-03 12:08 AM
Wood Ear of Ja Birdar is wood is ears grown on the wood ears of wood what sounds have they heard when they are torn off alive does the wood utter a secret cry we cook them and instant they are put in our mouth there is a crisp sound we feel as if we ate our own ears in that instant we become Ja wooden |
| Bhunte | Posted
on 06-Aug-03 02:31 AM
Gunda dai, thanks...I will definitly come for Aila which i m missing for years if i visit SF again...hajur ta teso bhaye raksi ga.bi.sa. wa tesko cheu chhau ma hola teso bhaye... Rastafariya: I is know little little about Sarvan dai. But what I is know is very true. I is not lie. You is not lie. However, the main message is dai has been doing good for orphans and poor children in Nepal. |
| Rastafariya | Posted
on 06-Aug-03 10:46 AM
Birader Bhunte! that is what I and I is sayin. what them is birader Gundas problem? Besides him never answa my quesions. Birader Gunda you is never answa my quesion. Remember that all them truth is important even a tiniest one is very important. Never say that one bit truth is mo important than other little truth. Truth is truth and all of them equally important. Seems like you is not know anythin about truth. |
| Rastafariya | Posted
on 07-Aug-03 03:39 PM
Birader Wasito. You is never talk to I in them Poet. I is not unnerstan them things > I is simpal peopal. |
| smr | Posted
on 14-Aug-03 02:18 PM
Hi: I just wanted to give you some facts about Shrawan that I got from a very close friend of mine. Shrawan was found by an American volunteer and was put in Paropakar. He was lost in a Jatra crowd some wehere in the Western Nepal. (This friend went to Paropakar too.) His father did not know about the wherabout until much later, when he did, Shrawan was grown up and on his way to study in the States, again, counrtsy to his foster father (American volunteer). As far as my friend knows his father is still in Nepal, actually helping him out at that Ama Ghar. He got his studies done and settled in San Franscisco. Got a good job but left that too to start this project. From all accounts, he is a very honest fellow and many American friends go to his Ghar to volunteer. He is also very popular among the Nepali community. I sent some money to his Ghar, and I hope I could do more. Her is a 100% pure Nepali with a very kind heart. SMR |
| bhunte | Posted
on 14-Aug-03 09:04 PM
SMR ji, thanks for your info...there is partial truth of what you have been telling...but, lets not dig into who he is, but focus on what he is doing...he never cared of who he is....his work is not for his own recognization... by the way, AMA GHAR is formally being inaugurated by the American Ambassador on September 20, 2003. There will be a grand ceremony there.... |
| Rastafariya | Posted
on 14-Aug-03 09:40 PM
Wehre is him Gunda Birader? Him must be hiding from them truth and shy! |
| gunda | Posted
on 16-Aug-03 12:39 AM
Rasta what is your contributions to the discussion??? the points I have made on this issue is to bring the full truth, not half truth. I hope I have successfully elucidated the truth that Sarwan is not an orphan as believed, he didnt sold his house to open as orphanage as people are made to believe. Bhunte lives in the states and he should be able to check the facts and make educated guess on how much money one can make from the sale of the house. I have heard, if you have good credit, one you can buy a house for 10-20% down. So even if you one sells the house does not mean he or she has chunk of money. People are gullible especially in the absence of knowledge and truth; I just wanted to bring the fact here that Sarwan is not what he claims and what people are made out to be. My other point was to expand the discussion on the idea of orphanage, not so much on the personal history of this guy whom people seem to worship without knowing all the facts. To those who think that I am chicken, refute this quote if you can, "It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker, that we expect our dinner, but from their regard to their own interest. We address ourselves, not to their humanity but to their self-love, and never talk to them of our necessities but of their advantages." |
| smr | Posted
on 16-Aug-03 08:52 AM
Hi, His website says he was raised in an orphanage (i.e., Paropakar) It does not say he was an orphan. According to this friend, he never clamied to be an orphan and he always said to people he went to Paropakar Second, from this friend, he did sell his house to open this Ama Ghar. The house he bought was in the Berkeley area (near the university) and had appreciated quite a lot. It was a very nice old house, according to his friend. That is, he made a good amount by selling it. From what I know of him from other friends around SF, Shrawan is a very nice person with good heart. I do receive his Ama Ghar report and I am convinced he is a genuine person. That's why I decided to donate money... after talking to friends in around SF area---both american and nepalis. SMR |
| smr | Posted
on 16-Aug-03 09:20 AM
Further: I just got off the phone with a Bayarea friend, and says the info is quite correct: 1. He sold his Berkeley house for a nice profit. 2. He left his nice job to start Ama Ghar 3. He was raised in paropakar 4. He is 100% genuine Neplai who is actually doing something in nepal, as opposed to many others who provide lip service and always dreaming about doing things. And, by the way, most (in the US) are also critical of others who are actually in Nepal. He also said that a birthday party host donated (Nepali friend of his) about $750 from the gift to Shrawan for the orphanage. It sounds pretty good to me. |
| Rastafariya | Posted
on 16-Aug-03 09:52 AM
Birader Gunda! You is look at them start of them thread. I is just gettin to know him Shrawan as a great peopal . Just like birader smr says that you is start bein critical of them birader Shrawan. You is read carefully what you is said. I is never said I is contribute to them this discussion. I is just appreciating how him Shravan birader is great soul. I is think you is contribusion in this discussion saying that all them Shrawan do is not good and only peopal praising him. I is not unnerstand you birader Gunda . Why them you is not wants to praise someone even if them person only got da job half done. Instead you is just sit and criticize and trying to find them faults and accuse da person of doing da job only half. There is them plenty of Gundas around who them do that. Them peopal not only do job half but even dont talk about work and instead them just preach peopal that da person who did da job half is not good person because him no finish. Birader Gunda! You is just sit there and lisen to da River YOU IS NEEDS TO GO DOWN TO DA RIVER AND FEEL DA WATER. |
| bipin | Posted
on 16-Aug-03 10:20 AM
I just stumble upon this thread. Being critical of Shrawan not knowing much about him and his work that he does in Nepal --giving schooling opportunity to those small (street) girls and boys while busting his ass to raise money in Nepal and US among his friends ---what a shame. If you have any question, why don't you ask directly to Shrawan, and if you are happy about him and his work (verify aorund first), then give money to his charoty. I have done exactly that. Now, get off the negative bandbagon and stop doing character assasination. |
| gunda | Posted
on 16-Aug-03 12:59 PM
good point you... if you think he is a great person, good for you and good for him... I am entitled to my own openion..ok.. |
| Rastafariya | Posted
on 16-Aug-03 04:19 PM
Birader Gunda! It is not them about thinking him a great person or not. Why them you is have to find flaws and not can stand someone getting praises? It not about good for us or for him. It good for them children. Looka birader Gunda. Accept it someone is at least sending some kids to school and giving them food and shelter. Now we is just think that is them noble acsion. We is know that you is have opinion and them opening or whatevar. Why them you is get burned when we is doing simply praising that birader Shravans work. Why is you can not say oh it is a good work. Maybe you is have bigger foundasion and supporting more children. Yeah! youre right. Have you ever even fed one child for one day? Have you ever given some poor child shelter for one night? Birader Gunda them Nepal is where it is because them leaders is like you. |
| bipin | Posted
on 16-Aug-03 09:01 PM
GundaJi: "Good point you... if you think he is a great person, good for you and good for him... I am entitled to my own openion..ok. " Having an opinion is perfectly fine, but one has to be careful about crossing a line. How many Nepalis in the US are serving Nepai? Compare that to what Shrawan is doing. Please, do not start a rumor in the name of my-right-to-have-an-opinion business. Please, spare Shrawan and his Ama Ghar and pick on someone else. You have plenty of NetaJis in Nepal. |
| global_education | Posted
on 16-Aug-03 10:17 PM
Global Guru Please raise your standards by being educated people. I will recommend gifts for you all soon. |
| Rastafariya | Posted
on 17-Aug-03 09:32 AM
What is you sayin birader Educasion? |
| gunda | Posted
on 17-Aug-03 08:43 PM
I commended you for taking higher ground, but looks like you dont get it. What rumors are you talking about? What line have I crossed? Please substantiate if you can, if not refrain from making such allegations. If you think this orphan chap is only person who is doing good deed for Nepal then you have lot of exploring to do and I might add some growing up to as well. I have repeatedly stated that I have nothing against this chap; on the contrary, I have stated that such deeds should be commend and encouraged. What nonsense you are talking about compare Sarwan to others Nepalsese. There are lots of Nepalese who are serving their country through their own ways, ok. One does not have to open an orphanage to serve the country that we all love, ok. Just because he has opened an orphanage he becomes the benchmark for the servitude? If you are not familiar with other institutions then next time you come to Nepal, visit some institutions and get involved rather than pontificating and giving out hallow praises from America. Orphanage in is nothing new, there are numerous orphanages in Nepal and Ama Ghar happens to be one. |
| bipin | Posted
on 17-Aug-03 09:21 PM
GundaJi: Read your own postings where you incuniated that Shrawan may have lied about his orphan status, about his selling of house, his father in the States, that people get on the bandwagon of orphan bichara bichara and symthathy grabber and so on... typical negative reactions...a bunch of ignorant comments without any evidence. This is what I called crossing a line. While you are at it, give me five Nepali names who have given up good US jobs and the US life style to start something like this, volunteering job with blood and sweat without any personal gain ...Not someone who is working in some NGO-run orphanages in Kathmandu. Finally, I am not saying he is the only one doing a good deed in Nepal, but he is much better than you yourself and myself included who know nothing better than waste time on the chat line and criticise others and pretend to have critical minds by being just critical. Speaking about the growing up, what can I say! Read you own postings BG |
| gunda | Posted
on 18-Aug-03 04:42 AM
Pundit Bipin, I may not be able to write well but I can read all right. All the things I have said of Sarwan are true, its not rumors. Its your prerogative if you dont want to believe it. It is the fact that he is not an orphan under the definition of an orphan, he does have a father, as for his house, I am not disputing sell of house, but to say he sold the house to open an orphanage is stretching the truth. Check their web site and get financial statement if you really care to find out and see how much he contributed towards an orphanage. Orphanage in Nepal have been exploited for selfish gain in the past, now I am not saying he is doing for self gain, but I dont give blanket praise without seeing results or knowing all the details like you do. I dont have to prove with names to you since facts does not mean anything to you. Since you are a Nepali and you have asked for it, there are lots of people who have given up jobs in US of A. Kanak Dixit, Manju Shree Thapa, founder of Helping Hand, field director of SEED non-profit organization, Dr. Ashok Baskota and there are lots more. In case you dont know who Kanak Dixit is, he is a founder of Himal magazine he gave up the USA and the UN job and started a magazine Nepal. I guess this kind of endeavors does not fall in your category of contributions, ManjuShree Thapa who could have settled in the US like her brother choose to go back, if you want to read of works, read Nepali Times, Field director and founder of SEED, a non-profit outfit that help Nepal in so many ways, he could have stayed in the States, but choose to live in Nepal and lives in Nepal; believe me, there are lots more people who have given up comfortable lives in the USA for Nepal and when are you doing to give up USA for your mother country? There are lot more but I not going to baby feed you, you have to come to Nepal and find out what yourself. If you think posting on the forum is a waste of time, why did you bother to engage in discussion? Go and do some productive and leave the netiquette for to those who like sharing their views online. Its a sign of insecurity and immaturity for you to say the he is much better than you yourself and myself he maybe to you, but you dont even know me and you have already made conclusion of who I am? Well, then yes, am saying grow up a bit.. |
| bipin | Posted
on 18-Aug-03 04:04 PM
Mr Truth (GundaJi): "All the things I have said of Sarwan are true, its not rumors." You still don't get it, do you? What you are saying about Shrawan is rumor not truth. That's all I am trying to say, and you are not listening. Befor you try to taint a person here on an anonymous medium, you need to pause and think about it. About Kanak Mani Dixit, I know him (not negatively), and don't even try with these kinds of examples to prove whatever you are trying to prove. Getting more names from Nepali Times's list of writers will not make your point any stronger. It is so futile attempt. I can give twenty more names who have gone to Nepal and done well. You are missing the boat here GundaJi. People come and go in and out of the country. The world is smaller these days. Let's get back to the original discussion: Shrawan is a nice person who is trying to do a good deed in Nepal; He is not a lier and he has not lied about his status. That is, he has never said that he was an orphan. He was raised in Paropakar. He has a foster father in the US. His father is not here in the US. Plus, he did sell his house and left his job. He busts his ass off to raise money for his orphanage. He has a very long list of friends and well wishers around the US and in Nepal who think very highly of him. The list is so long you can not even imagine Gunda. People celebrate their children birthday and donate money from it his cause (I know of one case.). If you have any friends in the SF area give a call and find out. You are the first person who has come on a chatline (where he cannot defend himself) to lob a rumor about him. That is not fair, GundaJi. Please call around, verify his reputation, and lobby for some charity contribution for a chagne. BG |
| smr | Posted
on 18-Aug-03 04:11 PM
All I have to say is that Shrawan does not deserve an accusation that he cannot defend in a public forum like this. As I said earlier, he is a fine gentleman with a kind heart, and is putting his great effort. I have checked around and have not heard any negative things about him. Like many other things, if you look hard enough you may find something. But, I am quite satisfied with his reputation, and I have contributed to his Ama Ghar. I urge others to do the same and not take rumors seriously. At least verify it first before making up your mind. |
| Rastafariya | Posted
on 18-Aug-03 04:21 PM
All Biraders! lisen. First thing is when this thread start and I is just askin quesion about him birader Shravan and I is praised him. Now this Birader Gunda comes and start telling that I is needs to look deeper? I is not unnerstand why him wants to go deeper. I is write because birader Bhunte knows him Shravan and start this thread. Now him is taking this topic to all them peopal who went to Nepal Dixit or Fixit. Them there was no quesion of that. Him Birader Gunda gets angry that I is praised this Shravan Birader. I is just dont get it. I is sure him Shravan have some flaws somewhere that is what makes him human. But I is certainly think that him Deserve greater praise than what I have done. I is not know maybe Birader Gunda knows Shravan more than any peopal here that why him keep saying all this things. Anyways I is still think that him Shravan birader is great soul if him is doing even a little bit for them childrens of Nepal. |
| psychodreamer | Posted
on 18-Aug-03 04:30 PM
Mooji Jabbare jatha haru, I think Gunda has given very good points. You can contribute in many ways. Laxmi Prashad Devkota, Bhanu Bhaktta, your Kindergraden Teacher all are great contributors. Some have leadership capabilities and some do not. Some people like to drink raxi, some do not. |
| Rastafariya | Posted
on 18-Aug-03 04:34 PM
Now birader Dreamer! We is not talkin about them literature peopal. I is not unnerstan what them you is trying to say? You is needs to wake up from your dreams birader Dreamer. Them Dreamin not good for you. Specially if you is dream of them Bhanubhakta and Devkota. Them there is other thread for them Bhanubhakta and Devkota. You is go there birader. |
| psychodreamer | Posted
on 18-Aug-03 04:43 PM
Now Birader Rastafaria Jem(I mean them) is a guy who wears faria Jem is the guy who acts who doesnt unnerstan anything Jem should not try to wake me up from my dream |
| Rastafariya | Posted
on 18-Aug-03 05:16 PM
Birader Dreamer! I is not tryin to wake you from them your dream. I is only saying why them come here and them you is tell I and I about your dream. You is go somewhere and them Dream your Dream of them Bhanubhakta and birader Devkota. Them here we is talkin about him Birader Shravan. We is just saying how good sould this birader is. |
| gunda | Posted
on 18-Aug-03 11:21 PM
Padit Bipin, Please dont distort my comments. Where have I said that Sarwan is a liar and he is not doing a good job? I would like you to cite exact comments where I have sid this? Looks like you left Nepal but old mindet havent left you. Maybe he does not claim to me an orphan but someone did said that he was an orphan and he gave all his money for an orphanage, and I who have met him and know few people who have been involved with an orphanage have different views, thats all. Those are facts as far as I am concern, and if you dont want to believe it, thats fine. You asked me to provide name of 5 people like Sarwan, this question itself was absurd, but I obliged to your curiosity, but I was wrong to assume your sincerity. You claim to know Kanak but his contribution to Nepal eludes you. I told you of ManjuShree Thapa and you seem to think I just picked up off the net. I suggest you research and read up on Kanak and Manju Shree Thapas work. They are not just individual who have done well for themselves but their contribution has made difference in Nepal. Of course, they are not like your Sarwan, there would never be person like Sarwan or you in this matter until the cloning technology is perfected and approved. If this subject is of interests you then you should make a point to visit, CWIN, (Child worker in Nepal) and explore the works of the Missionary of Charity, Maiti Nepal, and Dr. Ashok Baskotas hospital. . Thats another individual who is larger than life at least for me. You can say he has done well for himself, but he has done for more for others. I dont have to prove nothing to you my fellow compatriot I dont know you and it appears you dont deserve proof. Anyway, no one is forcing you accept what I have to say. I am interested to discuss an idea, origin and solutions, and advantages and disadvantages of orphanages than some one whom you have not met or know much about. Peace.. |
| Rastafariya | Posted
on 23-Aug-03 10:25 PM
I is not unnerstand your saying birader Gunda? Why them you is can not say or them agree that Shravan birader is them good good great peopal? Even if you is not agree why them you is have to comment or put doubt if you is not know him personlally? That is only thing I is wants to ask you. |
| Bhunte | Posted
on 03-Sep-03 09:46 PM
Hey Birdars, Where are you all? I had the opportunity to visit Ama Ghar last month while I was in Ktm and met both Shrawan (after 2 decades) and Ama Tika Basnet along with other kids from various walks of life. I am so amazed with Shrawan's accomplishments for Ama Ghar in so short period. The Ama Ghar is in an expansion phase. It is planning to buy about 20-25 ropani land in Godawari area and build its own building, and planning to open a branch of the Ama Ghar in a district in the Western Nepal. Currently Ama Ghar houses 33 kids (about two thirds are girls) from different parts of the country. In the day time the kids go to nearby public school, and off the school the kids get involved in extra curricular activities in the Ama Ghar. The performance of these kids in the school has been outstanding. There are several nepali and foreign volunteers in Ama Ghar. I didn't dig out his personal life (not of my business), but Shrawan dai himself told me that he divorced to his wife as she wanted a life in States. But, they are in good relationship and visits him in Nepal quite often. Yes, Shrawan invested the his share of proceeds from selling the hosuse which had been quite appreciated eversince he bought the house. Not so bad, since it is a good move because the housing bubble in the States may burst any time in future. However, the major source of funding for Ama Ghar is from the donations. He has about 1,000 people in his network and helping his endeavor one way or other. His Excellency The US Ambassador is formally inaugurating the Ama Ghar on Sept 20, 2003. I wished to attend the ceremony but I had to return for work. Deep Shrestha and his team will perform on the second day to raise fund for Ama Ghar at the Royal Nepal Academy. The day I was there, a group of TV documentary producing crew came there and videoed Ama Ghar, intereviewd Shrawan, Ama, volunteers, and staffs. You may see me there when the documentary is aired in NTV pretty soon. |
| kalekrishna | Posted
on 04-Sep-03 01:30 AM
It seems rumor and mud slinging fashion has crept into Sajha.com. It is a dangerous trend we supposed to be elites (at least in some context) have to avoid. I haven,t gone through all the postings about Pushkarji and Sarwan, but quick glance in few of them was not encouraging. Let us support the cause of any individual be it within and with out the country aimed at promoting the cause of Nepal. Let us not make hasty conclusion with nasty remarks that may discourage the efforts of those struggling for the cause and interests of future aspirants. If there are points that needs to be rectified and clarified, no one will be better person to answer and correct it then the individual concerned. So, suggestions and feedback to the individuals in boosting their efforts and seeking clarification for misunderstood or misguided facts should be the right approach (in my view, not necessarily applies to all). |
| Bhunte | Posted
on 04-Sep-03 12:44 PM
Kalekrishna, Thanks for candid opinion..... Further to mention that I perceived at Ama Ghar that it is also inspired by the ideology of 'simple living high thinking'. You will mostly find Shrawan dai in bicycle or in bus but not in luxurious car or motorbikes...... Per Shrawan, about 80-90% of the donation is spent in real activities for the children and their activities-- e.g., for their foods, clothings, fees/supplies, rental, etc. Someone earlier also mentioned about how donors are reported of how their donations are spent.... |
| Bhunte | Posted
on 27-Oct-03 03:04 PM
hurrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeeyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy Shrawan's Interview by Nepal Television's Bijaya Kumar can be found in the web. It is in Disha Nirdesh (October 27, 2003 )....It is in part I, II, and III. Special thanks Najar ji for mentioning his interview in the other thread. btw, Shrawan dai did his MBA from North Carolina State Univ at Reliegh... The first part is about his own personal history...gunda, rastafariya, bipin, etc., are you there??? Those who want to be a philanthroper or social worker, etc., this interview is a must to be viewed. Healthy comments are welcome here... |
| Bhunte | Posted
on 27-Oct-03 03:07 PM
the link for the recorded interview - http://www.nepalnews.com.np/dishanirdesh/ |
| Rastafariya | Posted
on 27-Oct-03 03:13 PM
Birader Bhunte. Thanks to you Where is him Gunda? |
| Bhunte | Posted
on 27-Oct-03 03:26 PM
Hey RF birdar, you can verify what i had written earlier in this thread. you may want to email gunda dai...eheheh |
| Rastafariya | Posted
on 27-Oct-03 07:08 PM
Birader Bhunte I is never needs to verify. I is believes you. I is just wants to see them Gunda biraders Face. I is just wants to see him smile. maybe him is smile somewhere feeling shy with hisself. |
| nepalki_chori | Posted
on 27-Oct-03 07:56 PM
I could't resist to pour down some about Shrawan Nepali dai after reading this thread. I know Shrawan dai personally. Yes, of course he is a real Nepal ama ko choro, raised in all sorts of difficulties. Despite he had to go "anathalaye", he is not actually an orphan (he doesn't know where abouts his father as he left family and his mother is still alive). He had his schooling in Paropakar High School where he got to share "sukha dukha" with other orphans. He was a very simple, honest, sincere and hard working student of paropakar. He was famous among the teachers and students. Woha ko bare ma jattinai bhaneni thorai huncha. He put the pains he own and the difficulties he passed aside and went US for better opportunities. His foster father provided him all ways inturn of his life saved by Shrawan dai's grandfather (was a missionary hospital volunteer in palpa or puthan) After getting into US, he started analyzing his life himself. After completing his studies he came to Nepal for sometime. That time he came to our home.......the night I still remember. It was a dark night (no electricity due to load shading). We all family were together with him in candle lights. On the way of talking, he started telling us his story. It was full of fear, sentiments, struggle and beside.... ... ama bau bata bicaodnu ko pida......ama jiudai huda ni choro lai swikarna nasaknu.......... we all were speechless ...........and suddenly I burst into tears. Uha ko tyo dukha ko agadi aru sabai dukha haluka huncha.............. Thenafter we met him for just like two. He never missed to visit "paropakar anathalaye on his every visit to Nepal. And he always expressed that he wants to do something for orphans. His dream is taking shape now. I salute for his noble contribution. Whatever he is doing and will do for orphans, will be from deep inside his heart..........full of love, care and holiness. I am sure this "Ama Ghar" won't be a "dekhawoti" or "magi khane bhado" I wish all the best for "Ama Ghar" |
| nepalki_chori | Posted
on 27-Oct-03 08:03 PM
Bhunte ji................. Thanks for letting know about the interview of Shrawan dai's interview.............I am watching right now.........will post comments soon ..... |
| bhunte | Posted
on 27-Oct-03 08:11 PM
Nepalki_chori, my heart and eyes were filled while i was watcthing his interview......appreciate your comments... |
| nepalki_chori | Posted
on 27-Oct-03 08:55 PM
Shrawan dai ...cool calm as ever. but missed to watch his smile in the interview........he has very nice teeth though :P.............ali ali budho hunubhayecha.......... a real nepali.............pure nepali heart. sansarko kunai saktile tyo man lai jitna sakena !!!!! timile pani ma jastai maya diyera hera...............yo anath haru bhitra afulai birsi hera ........... 'Ama Ghar" lai kosaiko (maobadi) ko ankha nalagos !!!!! |
| Bhunte | Posted
on 28-Oct-03 01:56 AM
maoist won't dare to eye ama ghar... |
| Rastafariya | Posted
on 28-Oct-03 07:12 AM
Where is him Gunda Birader? I is waiting for some commens from Birader Gunda! |