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| nepalisite | Posted
on 04-Aug-03 08:58 AM
Dear All, World Cyclist Pushkar Shah was recently robbed and Kidnapped somewhere around 40 KM north of Victoria, Mexico...Please visit http://www.nepalisite.com/pushkar to read more and how you can help. Thank you. |
| Deep | Posted
on 04-Aug-03 09:37 AM
I forwarded the news with a request for assistance to Mexican Embassy in DC. I am not sure what, if any, the Embassy would be able to do regarding this sad incident. If I hear anything from them (the embassy), I will post here. |
| Qallu | Posted
on 04-Aug-03 10:23 AM
That is so sad!! The question I had is how did Puskhar contact the folks in Nepalisite.com? Did he lose his money and his identifcation as well? Is there a Nepali consulate in Mexico? Can the Nepali embassy in DC do something about this? Where was he headed? Are the folks where he was headed to been informed? If somewhere in Mexico, can they do anything to influence the officials in Victoria? Is there something we can do as a collective? |
| Shikhar | Posted
on 04-Aug-03 10:47 AM
Note to Puskar: Stop this BS about cycling around the world for WORLD PEACE and go home and take care of your family, get a real job, save some money and than go on a world tour however you want. I am sure even you don't believe that your cycling around the world will bring any peace even in NEPAL, forget THE WORLD. Asking for donations, begging for money to fulfill your hobby is not only ridiculous but pathetic in my opinion. Ofcourse when you go out on an adventure you are going to face many obstacles but asking for more money from others every single time you get in trouble is ridiculous. Rather than making a name for yourself and NEPAL, I think you are doing a disservice for nepal and nepalese around the world. |
| bhenda2 | Posted
on 04-Aug-03 11:04 AM
1. Dont tell other people what to do. 2. Its his life and he can do whatever he wants. 3. Keep your disgusting opinion to youself. 4. No need to speak out everything you think. |
| nepalisite | Posted
on 04-Aug-03 11:54 AM
Source of the message is from his website pushkarshah.com. I am trying to get some more information. I have been on the phone with a friend who was contacted by Pushkar this morning at around 8(Aug 4th) telling that he reached Mexico, safe and sound. Apparently the incident occured later this morning (after 8 AM. Please keep posted as I try to gather some information. You can view BOTH of the websites for updates(CHECK BOTH SITES AS UPDATES MIGHT BE DIFFERENT) http://www.pushkarshah.com http://www.nepalisite.com/pushkar |
| jyapuu | Posted
on 04-Aug-03 12:04 PM
bhenda2, your opinion is right but try to implement on your own first. Shikar's view is totally genuine. I personally, think Mr. Shah should take care of his family first before doing all these meaningless cycling around the world. And he should learn how to take care of himself yaar. May be he should stop going to places like mexico, cuba and others.. I am sure it will help him on long run. |
| Shikhar | Posted
on 04-Aug-03 12:32 PM
bhenda2: Thanks in advance for following your own advices. |
| Nepalisite | Posted
on 04-Aug-03 01:05 PM
Update--- Incident took place on August 3rd---not 4th. At around 6 p.m.. He had to fought with the guys and escaped at around 9p.m. We just heard of him that he is safe. Fortunately his passport and wallet was not taken. He is SAFE.... You can check the updates at nepalisite.com/pushkar |
| hangu lama | Posted
on 04-Aug-03 02:55 PM
Apparently, the mexican, one who got run over by pushkar's bike while trying to flee from the fight, died. The authorities have gotten hold of him and have decided to execute him. Hey the mexican law is tough. They don't phuck around with appeals and all the craps. You die, you die today, you don't get to hang around for years. ;) reminds of Nazareth's 'my white bicycle' 
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| Bhunte | Posted
on 04-Aug-03 03:04 PM
Although it is easy to blend for any Nepali with Mexicans, still Pushkar is kidnapped...Pretty Sad... I guess there is a Mexican Counsolate in Nepal through which it would be effective to findout the kidnappers... |
| hangu lama | Posted
on 04-Aug-03 03:08 PM
bhunte, there is no mexican consulate in nepal, you'll have to go to india. |
| bijay934 | Posted
on 04-Aug-03 04:41 PM
Hi! My name is Bijay Bokhim and I'm based at Houston, TX. Pushkar Shah stayed with us during his trip here and before he left for Kingsville, TX and finally to Mexico. I received a call from Mr. Bardan Gurung (Bhai) from Kingsville, TX about this sad incident. So I called Mr. Jack Assael, Honorary Consulate General, Royal Nepalese Consulate in Mexico City. First of all, he was surprised as to why Mr. Shah didn't choose to call the Consulate in Mexico city or the Nepalese Embassy in Washington D.C. However, I told him about the incident and he said that he won't be able to do anything unless he has a phone no. where Mr. Shah can be reached. Since, u guys have all the info, u must have the phone no. where Mr. Shah can be reached. If u do, then please give the number to Mr. Jack Assael, Hon. Consulate General, so that he can take the proper steps. If not you can also send me the no. and I'll call the consulate general myself. His no. is (525) 560-5568. Thank you and let's unite in helping Mr. Pushkar Shah continue his "tapashya". Bijay Bokhim 6000 Hollister, Apt # 615 Houston, TX 77040-6858 Phone: 713-460-0121 Home, 361-455-9686 Cell |
| Sadabichar | Posted
on 04-Aug-03 04:57 PM
How many years has Puskar been circling around the globe? I think it's good way of living while leaving wife and kids in Nepal. |
| (*)Y(*) | Posted
on 04-Aug-03 05:05 PM
saikal le thakkar laagera maryo re?..damn those sinke mexicans..! Nepalese rock!! |
| Sadabichar | Posted
on 04-Aug-03 05:23 PM
On November 28, 1998 a man started 11 yrs. journey to capture his dream, the dream of riding 390,000-kilometre around the world on his bicycle to spread the message of peace and hopes for his country and the world. The Nepalese missionary of peace hopes to spread his message through media, his meetings with public officials, and through public speaking engagements. This mission is not about material gain or international fame. It's simply about spreading the message of peace! Isn't it too long this 11-year journey???????? |
| dogz | Posted
on 04-Aug-03 05:48 PM
I wanna go on a world tour too, can you guys help me out here just collect some donations.... I swear I'll do a good job. I want peace too, a piece of everything. I won't be a fool to ride on a bicycle, I'll take my motor-bike so that I won't have to bother you all later on. Those Mexicans can't run that fast (coz all of their fastest runners are already here in America). C'mon guys, if not world then I'll be glad to spread peace around Europe, plezz. |
| Sadabichar | Posted
on 04-Aug-03 06:00 PM
This is exactly what happened in the City where I am living. When Pushkar Shah reached here, he was met by locals and news about him was aired by the local TV station.. then the nepalese came to know. So one neplai brough him to his house, where most of the Nepalese living in the city paid visit to him. Then as trend goes on, nepalese wanted to invite him for a dinner. But this guy would accept the ride, he said that he cannot break the vow by travelling on car, and so he reached the first nepali's house by bike following the map. People thought, well this guy seems genuine. And then goes the invitation pouring on ihm from many many other Nepalese. Believe it or not, he started riding cars to go to those invitations. Well, the people gave so much interest in him, he prolonged his stay in this City for more than 15 days. What a way of earning the living!!!! Almost all poeple here gave him donations... he got almost $2500 or more. Well in every gathering here, he used to boast how a chic fell in love with him in HOngkong, and how he almost abandoned his Yatra and settled in HK. Well, there are so many other stuff he talked about which are unfit to quote here. |
| Sadabichar | Posted
on 04-Aug-03 06:01 PM
Well, I still remember he had a plan to go to US after, and he was saying that he was planning to stay in NY for 1 year or more to earn money to continue his journey. So how many months he spent in US? |
| hangu lama | Posted
on 04-Aug-03 07:07 PM
dude (*)Y(*) Ofcourse we nepalese always rock....saanei dekhi laageko baani nepaliko. BTW, they said the bike weighed 900 lbs. that's like at least 3 defensive tackles on top of you. football season.....damn i just can't wait 
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| maximum20 | Posted
on 05-Aug-03 08:23 AM
I don't understand all this bashing. i won't ask you to shut up or keep your opinions to yourself but I think it's shameful to say stuff like that. you think Pushkar Shah is "earning a living" doing this? well maybe his idea of living his life and his idea of spreading the word for peace is different than yours. You can't criticize someone's lifestyle simply because it differs from yours. i don't know what has become of his family (or even if he has a fmaily at all) but I'm pretty sure he didn't leave them to starve and die. someone was talking about how he first rejected an offer for a car ride and later complied. i know you'd be the same person who'd come to this site and talk shit about Pushkar if he'd said he didn't have time to attend all those dinner invitations. So what if he's getting the popularity and appraisal you wish you had for yourself? you might not want to support him and not believe in his cause but you have no right to ridicule him and make him seem like a loser desperate for attention and whatever little bucks he gets as "favors". about the money issue, A. duh! if you're travelling around the world of course you need money and B. he is ready to risk his own life by travelling through regions he's not familiar with. Instead of marvelling at his bravery you think he's doing it for money?? and this other kid who thinks he can do the same, go ahead. no one's stopping you from cycling around the world. people should learn not to show their jealousy. |
| tanas | Posted
on 05-Aug-03 08:57 AM
Why can't we for a moment forget who Pushkar Shah is and just think about A Nepali Being Kidnapped and the measures we all as Nepali citizens can take to rescue him.... Why get personal all the time..lets grow up for heaven's sake... Pushkar Shah is a Human Being Pushkar Shah is a Nepali Aren't those 2 reasons good enough to find way rather than start bashing him left right and center????? |
| bhenda2 | Posted
on 05-Aug-03 09:46 AM
Oopph Nepali haru ko yehi bani naramro.....guys stop bitching...kati kam napako aimai jasto aruko kura kati ra....Get a life. |
| Shikhar | Posted
on 05-Aug-03 09:57 AM
I remember those days in Nepal when - College students - mostly associated with some political party would come knocking door to door asking for "chanda" for their semi-annual tour (vacation). I disliked that tradition because they were trying to sustain a lifestyle and enjoy a vacation, obviously not within their means, on other people's hardearned money. I just see - "the cyclist" taking it a step further and going on a world tour (vacation), obviously not within his means to afford such a vacation, calling it - Cycling for World peace just to generate attention to an otherwise meaningless vacation. No, I am not jealous of the cyclist because I will never ever go on a cycling tour even if I was able to affordit, it just doesnot fall on my "TO DO LIST" for this lifetime. I would rather climb Mt. Everst or go on some other adventure when I can afford to do so. When, the cyclist was in our town, people hosted a BBQ party in his honor, even I donated whatever I could because at that time I though his cause was nobel and his ambition strong, he managed to raise $5000 altogethere from our small community. But looking back at it now, I regret donating the money and encouraging other to do so, that donation could have gone for a better cuase. If he was accepting the donation on behalf of a worthy cuase I would be fine with it, but he was raising the money to sustain a lifestyle that is not within his means and I will not encourage such behaviour again. |
| bhenda2 | Posted
on 05-Aug-03 11:09 AM
Its a free world....if Pushkar wants to live his life cycling around the world with somebody else's money....its his life. Dont like what he is doing...then dont donate any money....I am sure Pushkar is not forcing any of us to donate. Who are we to judge what is right and what is wrong......?? Puskar Shah dont get discouraged by what some big mouths say..do what you like to do. |
| sankaa | Posted
on 05-Aug-03 11:38 AM
I support Puskhar. It's his life style to go around the world on his bicke, but his life style brings pride and gives good name to our country. WE should be happy that pushkar is doing this for our country, for us.Thousands of immigrants can come to usa or go to any countries but it's not a pride if they don't represent thier origin. Unlike most ppl who think they've done a lot by putting few dollars in the donation box Pushkar is risking his life and putting lots of time and energy to represent his country to the world.Pushkar is an asset to us. We should all support him. And Please, don't give donations if you're gonna be unhappy thinking about it. I don't know why this friend thinks that pushkar robbed him or something. Why did he give money in the first palce if he wasn't sure. Pushkar, wasn't begging , i suppose and that person could always not give donations. Donations mean to happily give money, to support, isn't it? why then bragging about it? ps: if you still feel like you've been robbed, then please let us know, how much did you put in the donation box, may be some of us who values this hero's contribution and sacrifice can generate that money and reimbursh you.can't take these silly comments any more... shame to you all who bash on this brave guy who's representing his country to the world.. sati lay sarayapay ko desh ray Nepal. .. ramro garnay lay kahilay pani jush paudai na.. bichara Pushkar.. sankaa |
| Arnico | Posted
on 05-Aug-03 11:50 AM
A few thoughts... Glad Pushkar is safe. I lost a friend during a robbery in Mexico. A guy from my department... had just finished his dissertation and went to Mexico for a vacation. Two teenagers wanted to steal his camera when he walked in an isolated alley. He fought, they drew a knife... and we had a memorial service... If only he'd let them take the camera... May be this is a wake-up call that someone doing a trip like Pushkar's should have (1) a GPS, and (2) an Iridium (or similar) satellite phone tucked away somewhere along with the passport. And may be he should not be traveling alone like that. Wouldn't it be possible to organize local cyclists to join him for parts of the trip? |
| john doe | Posted
on 05-Aug-03 12:49 PM
shikhar, you sound like an intelligent person, but I'm baffled by your arrogance and your utter lack of respect for a fellow human being, and a nepali at that, for doing what he believes in. How many people you know have the guts to give up a normal life and pursue their dream, specially one as absurd, and thus exotic, as Puskar's? What is your dream? Do you even have one? Or have you, like many of us, already sold your soul to the so-called American Dream of a house in the 'burbs, a family with 2.4 children, and lets not forget the ever-important dog? I know, a lanky dude from a little-known country on a rickety bicycle is not going to bring us World Peace. What is World Peace anyway? If anyone has figured it out, let me know, will ya? Or did I just miss the memo? How can such a diverse group of people with such varied and (more often than not) antagonistic idealogies live together peacefully? If God wanted a peaceful world, he would've made everyone the same color with identical softwares running in our minds. What Puskar can do is go around the world, talk to anyone who will lend him even half an ear, and tell them about this enchanted land sandwiched between two behemoths, and how its people have survived centuries of bad luck, but managed to save their identity and salvage their self-respect. If Puskar puts Nepal on the map for every individual he meets in his journey, his mission is accomplished. And believe me when I say the $5000 that you helped raise could not have been put to a better use. You cant buy that kind of publicity with 5 meagre grands. Puskar has been featured on local TV at many places around the world. I'm sure you've seen those slick 30-second PR campaigns launched by Saudi Arabia and, more recently, Jordan. I'm sure they didnt raise the money for that at a community BBQ. Puskar might not be a saint, and he might not be the brightest of people, but he has done something most of us cant even contemplate doing. Maybe his original mission was a bit too melodramatic for your taste, but that doesnt mean we cant celebrate his accidental accomplishments. Even Hollywood considered it safe to bet on Forrest Gump. Our own Puskar deserves at least a little respect. |
| Sadabichar | Posted
on 05-Aug-03 01:15 PM
Forrest Gump |
| Sadabichar | Posted
on 05-Aug-03 01:19 PM
Pushkar got the bullet during Jana Andolan, right? And then he totally got pissed of after the success of the movement... Coz Haat Pa paryo Sunne for him.. Then he set out for the journey for the world peace!@!! |
| Sadabichar | Posted
on 05-Aug-03 01:33 PM
Game ta yasari suru bhayeko ni ta!! |
| Sadabichar | Posted
on 05-Aug-03 01:34 PM
Survival of the fittest, kuro paryo afno desh ma ki pardesh ma? |
| bhenda2 | Posted
on 05-Aug-03 01:38 PM
SADABICHAR IS SUCH A FAG ITS NOT EVEN FUNNY! |
| Sadabichar | Posted
on 05-Aug-03 01:41 PM
Take your time to assimilate the facts. |
| crazyeyez | Posted
on 05-Aug-03 02:12 PM
this is terrible, but I guess its part of travelling off the beaten path. i hope he's journey is sage here forth. |
| Nepe | Posted
on 05-Aug-03 02:40 PM
I am with John Doe. Well said, John Doe ! |
| Sadabichar | Posted
on 05-Aug-03 02:56 PM
Most of us can't even contemplate what he is doing......... And most of us can't go begging on the roads with filthy look and dirty, torn clothes while being so much vulnerable to diseases and surviving on arms while sleeping on the streets. The root cause of his journey is quite obvious that his expectation was shattered by both left and right wing political parties. These political parties enjoyed the powers while sending the entire country to doomsday. Sadly, political parties didn't give a damn about almost all the laymen who died of bullets and who survived the bullets in the course of Jana-Andolan. He could not gain anything after the bullet, and he could not go for any lucrative business afterwards. Well, then comes the idea of going on a tour with the motto of World peace. You got to listen to his talkings fromhis mouth when he arrived in various cities... you can almost sense that something is wrong!!! |
| jyapuu | Posted
on 05-Aug-03 04:03 PM
Honestly, that puskharee is not cyclying out there for "wOrLd PeAcE". May be he started it out this with a noble heart but like ever since he came to USA for his tour he has changed tremendously. I think we should respect his cause but also suspect his motive now because, it seems to me like a pattern for him to get robbed and ask for help. I even doubt that he got robbed. Well, fellas don't get mad..it's a crazy world we live in and we really don't know who to trust. Just because puskhar shah says he got robbed we shouldn't belive me instantly. Like I have said before, personally I think these kind of "Cycling" for peace is waste of time but it's his choice to do it, so "Good Luck" to him. And I would rather give money to some peace core agency who acutally go to Nepal and build schools for needy children. Since he is a celebrity, we can criticize his actions. Some may think it (cycling for peace) is a good idea and some may disagree. I happen to disagree with this move. It's his life and let him to what ever he wants but If I were him, I would have stayed with my family..(remember he has two kids) and help raise him under my wings. But like I have said..it's his life...he can do what ever he wants with it. so we all better f**kin' keep quiet... jay nepal |
| Shikhar | Posted
on 05-Aug-03 04:46 PM
Haha, John Doe, First of all thanks for calling me intelligent before shredding me to pieces. I am not being arrogant, being a straight shooter, I am just stating my opinion on this public forum. Love it or leave it, I don't like to kiss anyone's behind or suck up to anyone against my belief and I belive in everything I state. "but I'm baffled by your arrogance and your utter lack of respect for a fellow human being, and a nepali at that" - I am sorry but there are a lot of human being who doesnot deserve any respect and a lot of nepalese at that too.. and I am by no mean saying that I do not respect Puskar the person. I just don't respect his method of expensing his vacation. How many people you know have the guts to give up a normal life and pursue their dream, specially one as absurd, and thus exotic, as Puskar's? - Absurd yes, exotic no.. and no I do not know anyone who would want to go on an extended vacation on OTHER PEOPLE's MONEY either. What is your dream? Do you even have one? Or have you, like many of us, already sold your soul to the so-called American Dream of a house in the 'burbs, a family with 2.4 children, and lets not forget the ever-important dog? Of course, everyone has a dream. Now, you trying to give an opinion about my dream, is that arrogance too? I know, a lanky dude from a little-known country on a rickety bicycle is not going to bring us World Peace. What is World Peace anyway? If anyone has figured it out, let me know, will ya? Or did I just miss the memo? How can such a diverse group of people with such varied and (more often than not) antagonistic idealogies live together peacefully? If God wanted a peaceful world, he would've made everyone the same color with identical softwares running in our minds. - Exactly my point!! If you think an extended vacation is not about world peace that lets not call it one either. What Puskar can do is go around the world, talk to anyone who will lend him even half an ear, and tell them about this enchanted land sandwiched between two behemoths, and how its people have survived centuries of bad luck, but managed to save their identity and salvage their self-respect. If Puskar puts Nepal on the map for every individual he meets in his journey, his mission is accomplished. - First of all I question why it is necessary to identify nepal to everyone in the world. How many country do you know about intimately? How many country is it necessary for you to know intimately? Is Puskar really meaning to put Nepal on the map? Is that really his intention? If having the tallest mountain in the world and being the birth place of lord Buddha is not enough to identify nepal, that I don't think it is necessary for some dude on a cycle to go from city to city around the world to do it. And believe me when I say the $5000 that you helped raise could not have been put to a better use. - I respectfully disagree with you on that point. You cant buy that kind of publicity with 5 meagre grands. Puskar has been featured on local TV at many places around the world. - Publicity for what? For himself? I don't think it is a publicity for nepal. I'm sure you've seen those slick 30-second PR campaigns launched by Saudi Arabia and, more recently, Jordan. I'm sure they didnt raise the money for that at a community BBQ. - No, I have not seen those PR campaings. There are using their own money to do it, so more power to them. Puskar might not be a saint, and he might not be the brightest of people, but he has done something most of us cant even contemplate doing. Maybe his original mission was a bit too melodramatic for your taste, but that doesnt mean we cant celebrate his accidental accomplishments. - Dennis Tito was the first space tourist and I really admire him because he went on an exotic and extravagant vacation, but he did it with his OWN MONEY. He earned it and spent it as he wanted to. My only point to this whole topic is that the cyclist is going on an extended vacation on OTHER PEOPLE's MONEY. But I have to praise the cyclist for putting such a big marketing campaign in the name of World Peace and Nepal Peace or whatever. Even Hollywood considered it safe to bet on Forrest Gump. - Forrest Gump was a hardworking, naive village bloke, just the opposite of what the cyclist is, in my opinion. Our own Puskar deserves at least a little respect. - Yes he does, as long as he would take his vacation at his own expense and no go from city to city asking everyone else to support his lifestyle and encourage him to go on a vacation which is obviously beyond his means. |
| Qallu | Posted
on 05-Aug-03 06:14 PM
Naysayers!! Vacation re? You must be kidding me! Going around the world "begging on the roads with filthy look and dirty, torn clothes while being so much vulnerable to diseases and surviving on arms while sleeping on the streets" (as sadabichar said it)... thats called vacation, re? haha thats funny! Have you heard about ascetics, monks and pilgrims who endure hardship and the ridicule of naysayers, who depend on the kindness of strangers to meet their basic needs? And even if he is some sort of a chor disguising himself as a sadhu, remember that Dev Anand movie, Guide, I think it is based on a RK Narayan Book? Maybe the journey will redeem him. Who knows? And really, who cares! What is it to anyone except him and those who voluntarily open their arms to welcome him and give him their support, financial, emotional or whatever. The least people can do is be sypathetic to his plight, but I guess some folks have no room in their hearts even to spare a little compassion. Oh well. Arnico, by the way, very good idea about local cyclists. Does anyone know if Pushkar has been featured in any cyclist/adventure magazines? Does he have any corporate sponsorsip for his gear? |
| Sadabichar | Posted
on 05-Aug-03 07:55 PM
Jyapuu and Shikhar.... yoiu guys are talking sense. The motive of Pushkar is highly questionable... it was so when he reached in Canada.. and Jypauu confirmed his motive being questionable as Pushkar reached USA. When he came to Canada... he told eerybody that he was going to USA.. and he will vanish there for 1 or 2 years so that he could work illegally and earn some bucks the continue his Yatra... It appears as he reached there in USA... he saw overwhelming money pouring from NRN's pockets... and thus he abandoned his plan of working illegally. I had predicted that as soon as he reached in USA.. and starts working there illegally, he will totally abandon the journey... But Sadly 9/11 happened.. and he didn't see any prospect of going underground in USA... thus he moved on riding Bike. But remember, if you guys have talked with him personally, you would have found that he is nuts.. doesn't know what to talk and what not to talk. At least around Canada, he used to boast how a Hongkong lady fell for him and requested him so hard to marry her and live in HK. You have to listen to him while he was telling that story.. and you would immediately realize the sinister mind. Hopefully he might have realized and have much controlled whhile talking without letting out what truely he feels about the trip. |
| Sadabichar | Posted
on 05-Aug-03 08:02 PM
It's was so sad when he used to boast about Hongkong chic.. and he was telling he almost settled there in HK abandoning the journey. Remember, he has wife and kids back in Nepal then as well. Well, guys, when one is drunk he speaks from his heart!!!!!!! Moving your lips and saying things in front of people doesn't mean that you are saying what you really mean. So next time, when you meet Pushkar... buy booze and have fun with him... if he sleeps after booze.. then you won;t get anything sinister. But if he talks then you would be shocked!!!!!! |
| rendra wasito | Posted
on 05-Aug-03 11:36 PM
Progress of a Traveller The news states: twenty years have elapsed since our victory over small pox. And we know this too, that in the meantime, terrorism and fanaticism have each year delivered thousands from the bodage of living. We are making progress: humanity no longer dies at hands of insects and vermin. It has achieved the distinction of death at the hands of human beings. The Story of Kaw, Khaw, Gaw and Ghaw In some reckless Raja's reign, for some reason during a destructive phase Kaw, Khaw, Gaw, and Ghaw were about to lose their lives. Such things happen so often. Whenever a careless Raja pleases he can shower down his disapproval in diverse forms of destruction, if he so chooses. After this a common human occurence, an evitable display, is the defiance of a cluster of youths. In a herd those innocent rebels lose their lives in a passionate and tumultuous war. When the entire world is waiting, various hands are raised in invitation, calling them. What happens next ? Everyone knows. And what news of those defiant youths ? Deep flow the cloudy waters of the bagmati, Vishnumati, and Tukucha. What can stop me speaking on this 21st August ? My birth was inthat innocent land or ardent devotion to some lost impulse. People are called to assemble in this city on this one occassion every year. The discussion is of the same insoluble Nepali matters. Here too Kaw, Khaw, Gaw and Ghaw cry and die. In memory of Maha Gana Kabi Bhim Nidhi Tiwari by Ranjit Shamsher Jung Bahadur Rana |
| maximum20 | Posted
on 06-Aug-03 08:06 AM
i, for one, am utterly ashamed by what's been written in this thread. someone's retelling a drunk conversation and others are calling a cycle ride a vacation. |
| Deep | Posted
on 06-Aug-03 08:23 AM
nikalm niklam afno man ko bhadas---our words represent us here. Arnico, your point is worth considering. |
| k-re | Posted
on 06-Aug-03 08:36 AM
I care less about him being drunk and talk crap but like some others, i question his motive for Cycling in name of the world peace. It's a good cause that Puskhar has started but I think he is doing it in a wrong way. By no means, cycling around the world make his cause to come true but instead if he really care about peace, he should stay in Kavre (Pushkar is from Kavre) and start this peace mission by taking care of his family (his has 2 kids I read, kids need to grow up with their parents).. first and then his surrounding..gau, tole.. May be work at school...health office...or any other social work. I think these social activities, not cycling, will bring peace. Here, I, by no means criticizing what he is doing..it's his choice. Like i have said before, I just think the method he chose is wrong while message he is trying to convey is superb. |
| Sadabichar | Posted
on 06-Aug-03 08:45 AM
Instead of going to World tour biking.. How abot biking within Nepal's every inch of land again and again and again... That might open up the eyes of the political parties who deceived him. Had he done that since instead of going out to the world... that would be more beneficial to Nepal's Peace, robably that would have brought the much needed peace in Nepal, perhaps the then political leaders would have acted differently and the current crisis would have been averted.. C'mon Nepal's Peace is more important than World peace at this moment. World peace will be taken care of by USA and its allies. Tell me when was there a peace in this world? Therefore think about Peace of Nepal first. And if each nation thinks about its peace.. then hopefully there will be world peace. |
| k-re | Posted
on 06-Aug-03 08:59 AM
Sadabichar, well said. Everything starts with the family...i.e our country... |
| john doe | Posted
on 06-Aug-03 09:01 AM
Shikhar, Your bones of contention with Puskar seem to be this notion that he is on a vacation, and that he is financing it with other people's money. Vacation??? I am not even going to argue with you on this point because it is so ludicrous that I have no choice but to question the rationality of someone who would use that argument in this context. And I'm sure you're going to defend yourself here with yet another round of unadulterated hogwash, but I'd rather you spared us. And how dare someone as poor as Puskar have a dream! A dream he cant possibly pay for out of his own pocket! How dare he defy the Shikhars of this world by attempting to do what he believes in, and do it with (choke! gasp!) other people's money!!! In disgust, J. D. |
| k-re | Posted
on 06-Aug-03 09:08 AM
Oh come on John doe..no one is stopping Pushkar to have a dream. His dream is as great as Martin Luther King Jr.'s But, like I have said before..and sadabichar has uttered..the method he chose is that what we disagree with. |
| Nepalisite | Posted
on 06-Aug-03 09:15 AM
Hi ALL, New Updates are in. See how you can help him. http://www.nepalisite.com/pushkar There is some list of items that he needs. Thank you all. |
| john doe | Posted
on 06-Aug-03 10:58 AM
K-re, Glad to know that we at least agree on something. As for the method he chose, dont you think its a little too late at this point to be coming up with alternate suggestions? If Puskar II ever materializes, I urge you to initiate another discussion and lets just make sure that the guy's not riding the sand dunes of Burkina Faso by the time he gets your messages. |
| Sadabichar | Posted
on 06-Aug-03 11:12 AM
Why only the link to website? why not the whole details? August 6th--Pushkar is in Victoria, Mexico. He will be in Victoria for few days, trying to get some help from Mexican authority in getting the culprits. He will then be returning to Miami/Hollywood, Florida till he plans his trip ahead. He lost all his belongings excpet his passport and wallet. His most valuable item that was lost was his entire portfolio. Any Help is Appreciated. Following is list of things that are in need :-Items Bicycle Cycling Shirts Bicycle Helmet Cycling Shorts Cycling Gloves Bicycle Head Lights Cycling Socks Bicycle mileage meter Bicycle Front Panniers Cargo Shorts Bicycle Rear Panniers T-Shirts Light Weight Dome Tent Hat Light Weight Sleeping Pad Jacket, etc His Waist Size is 30 inches. You can send a check at the following address :- Pushkar Shah 5613 Jefferson Street Hollywood, FL 33023 or funds may be deposited directly into Pushkar's account Bank of America Acct. #0054 8588 7704 August 4th--Pushkar's Own Words--"last evening 6.00p.m.i was resting 60 kilometer north from san Fernando.one truck came and stop front of my bicycle.two man off from the truck and came to near me .they watched my bicycle. we talk little bit English and Spanish.one man went to the inside the truck.he call me to come and drink water. i went inside the truck. he gave me water . after finish drink he just pull big knife and put on my neck.he told me sit under his leg.( nadekhine gari tala basnu bhnyo)maybe driver put my bicycle on the truck. i just heard sound.after long ride they stop the truck.the man call me get up.it was almost dark.i didn,t know where was it . it was dessert jungle.i show the watch. it was 9.15p,m.it was already confirm they were going to kill me.i though if have to die anyhow why i have to die like animal.i decided to fight with them.but it was very hard to fight with them. they both are was heavy weight.the man who had knife he off down out side.before the turn he i had quickly jump on his body.he fall down on the ground. i runaway inside the jungle.the driver was following me with flash light little wild.i didn,t know where i been.about half hour i stop. there was lot of cactus pin on my skin.hole body was scratch by different kind of pins tree(kande butta haru).after three hour walk i reached paddilo city 12.15(midnight)i complain police.the truck was blue colors and 357BM7 was number of truck.my hole body is hurting and my left ankle is paining(markiyako).i don,t have anything except my belt bag.i saved my money and passport.every thing has gone .maybe i will go to the Victoria today. Mexico city is 774 kilometer far from padila city.after long time break i was in the track again.in 52nd country i survived by another one death. Krishna what you can do by yourself and from foundation just do it. ekloyatri. |
| Sadabichar | Posted
on 06-Aug-03 11:30 AM
I don't understand why we should be paying for his stupidity. Next time he should be asking for tips on how he can complete his tour safely in various countries rather than losing his bikes and other belongings again and again. Different countries have different setups, tradition and culture. It's so easy to be robbed in the daylight right in the middle of the crowded city in most of the South American countries. He should know better about this fact before he steps on their soils. Mudhe Bal may not necessarily give you all successes. |
| john doe | Posted
on 06-Aug-03 11:48 AM
A vacation indeed!!! |
| Sadabichar | Posted
on 06-Aug-03 12:53 PM
Is he really looking forward to getting his name written into the Guinness Record by biking 390,000 Kms in 11 years? Will that record be for covering 390,000 kms or Circling the world in 11 years on bike? If it would be for 390,000 kms... then why not ride up and down along the Mahendra Highway from east to west within Nepal, it only takes 325 trips (assuming one way on that highway is 1200 Kms). Logistically it would be much easier for the well-wishers/supporters to furnish all the supplies he needs to complete the distance. In this way the feat can be accomplished within 9 years instead of 11 years, assuming that it will take 10 days for each trip (riding bike 150 kms a day in 8 days and 2 days for rest). Do you still believe that the 390,000 kms can be achieved in 11 years when you are trying to ride your bike all over the world in more than 150 countries? So far he has covered 75,000 Kms in 4.5 years. So total time needed at this rate to complete his journey = 4.5*(390,000/75,000) = 23.4 years Had he started his journey within Nepal, by now imagine how many nepalese would have been enlightened by his courage. Not only general public, even the political leaders/cadres. And think about the impact he would have made among the nepalese to take the country in the positive direction. |
| Sadabichar | Posted
on 06-Aug-03 01:01 PM
That would be almost Around the World in Quarter Century" . Now compare that with the story Around the world in 40 days. |
| babaal | Posted
on 06-Aug-03 01:56 PM
While not many of us give a rat's ass to Pushkar's bike journey, Sadabichar, you seem to be utterly bothered by his tour. Just forget about him and get yourself some sleep, will ya? Just a thought! |
| Sadabichar | Posted
on 06-Aug-03 02:59 PM
Yeah better to go for a sleep. However, the remaining numbers are here: Assuming he will travel 150 countries, to cover 390,000 kms he will have to cover on average 2600Kms per country. As per the numbers avaible to date, Distance covered so far = 75,000 Kms Number of covered countries = 50, while, Distance that should have been covered = 2600*50 = 130,000 Kms So there is adlreay a deficit of 55,000 Kms. Also, we should keep in mind that he has covered most of the large countries, such as China, USA, Canada, India, Australia, Mexico. Out of 150 countries, ther are so many countries which are so small that he cannot make 2600 Kms per country in those countries. Even Nepal is only 1200 kms east west. So how will he make up for the deficit Kms? Is there any rule that you go back to say USA again and again, and complete the total required distance? |
| jyapuu | Posted
on 06-Aug-03 04:08 PM
After all been said and done here ...Puskhar is good and alive. I think that matters the most. We may agree or disagree on what his mission is and the way he has choose to fulfull it, we should be happy that he is alive and kicking'... |
| Sadabichar | Posted
on 06-Aug-03 05:01 PM
I am happy too that he is still alive and became successful in not losing at least the passport while he lost everything else. Well, it is he who puts himself in danger again and again... it's almost like committing suicide.... We nepalese should feel a sense of concern about the way he is wandering around!!!! |
| Yatree | Posted
on 06-Aug-03 08:34 PM
I'm glad to hear that Pushkar is well. I too donated a small amount for his ambition, but regreted after he indicated in one interview that Nepal's old Panchayati system was better that the new Democractic system. I believe this was said before the King dismissed the Parliament. From time to time, Pushkar goes to Nepal. I thought he was supposed to continue his journey until the goal is reached. Best wishes, nevertheless. |
| Devil's advocate | Posted
on 06-Aug-03 08:35 PM
Sadabichar waz wrong with you kiddo?Why is Pushkar's trip a pain in the ass for you...see if u can't help him than stop naggig.That kid is livin his dreams...vacation nai bhaye pani k bho....hez on a vacation than...help garchas bhane gar natra stop yellin.And to all u f#$ks here stop botherin where and how should he have started and ended the trip...itz his wish,itz his decison so plz and plz stop showin this pandit attitude...kasaile garcha bhane garcha...u wanna help...help ...u don't wanna do that shut the f@#k up whiners.As if they are sponsorin the cyclist to complete his tour...now u may say tyo yaha aunda maile bhat khana diye,basna diye,$100 diye...f@#k that..la la khatra bhais ta...dharma nai garichas..swarga jalas.F@#kin Pandits. |
| chup | Posted
on 07-Aug-03 05:53 AM
Pushkar by any chance your chillin in a cyber cafe and reading this , get your monkey ass back to Nepal, Your peace so call bicycle tour is not gonna get your ass a Nobel Prize, if this bullshit "is" really about Nepal, then Push your ass back to Nepal and kuch Kar. |
| ashu | Posted
on 07-Aug-03 06:56 AM
I do not know Pushkar personally. I have never met him. Have only read about him. From what I read in various media: Leaving one's wife and two kids behind in Nepal to presumably fend for themselves time and again while one goes to cycle around the world does NOT strike me as a particularly heroic stance but as a an eccentric pursuit. I, for one, can fully tolerate such eccentricity if Pushkar had been responsible ONLY for himself and himself alone and NOT for wife and kids in Nepal too. I am guessing here, of course: But what good is this pursuit of world peace when you cannot bring peace to your own home? World peace, like charity, begins at home. oohi ashu ktm,nepal |
| babaal | Posted
on 07-Aug-03 07:07 AM
aba ashu le tyasto bhandepachhi ta Pushkar Nepal farkine bhai halyo ni!! Ashu rules..! :) |
| by | Posted
on 07-Aug-03 07:26 AM
Way I see it, every wo/man has right to persue her/his happiness. Pushkar finds happiness in going around the world on a bicycle, so be it. I hope he is a good husband and has made sufficient arrangements for his family's welfare, if he has not, that is his own personal affair. No need for us to speculate on how his family operates. Having said that, I too believe that his adventure is more of his own rather than that of the country's as is portrayed by the media. So, I did not go see him when he was in Toronto couple of years ago, nor did I donate any money. If he falls into hardship, he himself will have to find his way out because that is part and parcel to the task he has undertaken. My dui rupiya. |
| jyapuu | Posted
on 07-Aug-03 08:58 AM
By - Well said buddy. and to Devil's advocate, dude calm down. This is a forum and we all are just expressing our opinion, so are you. It wouldn't be fun if all of us obey your command of "Chup Lag" and say nothing. Believe me, something good comes out of this and other discussions that are being posted here. Stop acting "Macho" ... we don't need that... if you don't agree then simply disagree and support your argument. As far as sponsering Puskhar's cycling goes...that's what we have been talking about. I donated some money..that makes me part of his sponser..and so are others who have contibuted to Puskhar's effort. I donated money only because he is a nepali and needed support. Having said that, by no means I agree with his "Cycling For World peace" Motto. I don't think it servers any purpose..at all. Everyone knows this. But Like I have stated before..it's his life and he can do what ever f*k he wants to do with it. |
| Sadabichar | Posted
on 07-Aug-03 03:15 PM
Let me have a look at the numbers from this angle as well: Total distance covered so far = 75,000 Kms Duration = 4.5yrs Average distance covered per day = 75,000Kms/(4.5*365 days) = 45 km Do you guys expect an adventurer circling the world should be biking merely 50 km a day? This is what bothering me. At that rate, he will spend 25 years to cover 390,000 Kms at the cost of your donations. What a way of earning a living !!!! |
| Sadabichar | Posted
on 07-Aug-03 03:28 PM
So guys, do you still want him to wander around the unknown streets for another 18.7 years while risking his own life (bujhera ho ki Nabujhera ho?) camping on the road sides and making himself vulnerable to unceraintities/life-threatening exposure? He is our country-fellow.. we all should show our concern and compassion for him. I don't understand why we all should be financing such an idiotic mission. Rather we should try to have him return to the country. When he arrived in Canada, he didn't get much atention in Vancouver.. and when he reached next Canadian city after that he got very nice treatment and generous donations... he was almost abandoning his mission.. but after seeing the opportunitiy to extract money from the Nepalese living in Canada and USA.. he rather got encouraged.. in a way he got spoilt. |
| baljoshi | Posted
on 07-Aug-03 04:40 PM
I was looking at CNN today and something strange popped up. Now there are Video tapes for dog owners that can do yoga with their Dogs. Now to me that was fascinating. The thing is boy this world is really diverse and may be why its so interesting with so many dynamics at play. On Puskar's case. I don't think he has forced anyone to pay for his trip or to take care of this wife and sibling in Nepal. He felt this is how he wanted to live and that is how he should live. Nobody made him famous but the media did and people who bought his story supported him. What he does with his personal life is his own business and no one elses. Everybody needs a story to sell. His story was peace! If people buy it and help him get to the next level then I don't see a problem with it. If people feel he is just coming up with some excuse and do not feel the need to support then that's fine too. One thing we must not do as a human being is not generalize and make one single standard for gaining peace and prosperity. To him what he does during his life time is his world. What he feels in his head is his peace. If this is the way he wants to feel peace then I see no problem. we idolize Hillary and Tenzing. don't you think their stories are similar to his. Trying to live an extraordinarily unique life? Why do we idolize them? |
| tanas | Posted
on 07-Aug-03 04:55 PM
What Pushkar decides to do with his life and his family is non of our concern or is it?? looks like some of our dear friends here have been assigned to take care of his business back home while he is away cyling.... if thats the case, I pity you guys... Live and let live for heaven's sake.... |
| Sadabichar | Posted
on 07-Aug-03 09:49 PM
Compare "Live and let live" with "Live and don't let him die" |
| Sadabichar | Posted
on 07-Aug-03 10:04 PM
The story itself doesn't sound convincing too..... Think about this, they snatched the bike/helmet/ all accessories related to the biking... But they didn't snatch the pouch which contains passport and most importantly the Money!!!!!! That even after he travelled in that truck with knife on his neck from 6.00 - 9:15 pm. Hard to swallow this story. And hard to verify the story as well. At the last part of the story he writes "after long time break i was in the track again.in 52nd country i survived by another one death." |
| nepalisite | Posted
on 08-Aug-03 10:11 AM
Dear All, Fortunately police in Padilla City, Mexico have recovered most of his belongings and his bicycle. Therefore, at this point it is no longer necessary to collect additional gear for Pushkar. You can also visit for recent updates at http://www.nepalisite.com/pushkar for updates. Thank you again. |
| Bilbo Baggins | Posted
on 08-Aug-03 10:15 AM
Pushkar Shah has made a big fool of the innocent and sojo Nepalis. I met him in New York a while back and though I was impressed with his speech making capabilities and charism... I wasn't impressed with him AT ALL. I think he is a phony and Nepalsite should stop being a propoganda mouth piece for him, unless of course they are getting paid for it!! |
| Sadabichar | Posted
on 08-Aug-03 10:31 AM
The pledge for donations reads like this: You can send a check at the following address :- Pushkar Shah 5613 Jefferson Street Hollywood, FL 33023 or funds may be deposited directly into Pushkar's account Bank of America Acct. #0054 8588 7704 Are we comfortable to deposit money directly to his account? Is there any way to know how much fund being deposited into his personal account, and how it's being spent? In my opinion, there should not be the account opened in the personal name for such mission. When we deposit the money directly into the given account number, there is no way that Pushkar comes to know who are the people who donated. Something fishy, eh? |
| nepalisite | Posted
on 08-Aug-03 11:26 AM
Dear Bilbo-- Thanks for your concern. I value your opinion, and you have every right. No, we are not paid for that. I have met him several times and I have no negative feelings or attitude towards him. I have repsect for him in what he is doing. If I do not want to help/donate/support him then I don't do it. He is entitled to do whatever he wants. Its his choice, and we are not forced to do anything towards him. Its our(you and I/everybody) choice as well . We cover and try to help our fellow Nepali whether in Nepal or abroad. Whether its Pushkar or anyone. We believe in giving information to people. ----------- For Sadabichar-- I have no records on his accounts..If you are interested in getting details then please call the number that was listed on the website. Thanks again. |
| Qallu | Posted
on 08-Aug-03 01:50 PM
for some reason it got posted in someother thread. so here it is. "World peace, like charity, begins at home." So that means Gautam Buddha was a delinquent dad! :) It might be a good thing for people to stop measuring others by the same critiera you do for yourself. People like Pushkar... who go around the world and run (like Forrest Gump) or bike or beg ... have their own reasons for doing so. It is not for anyone to judge. Unless and until he is hurting someone, its is his business. And sadabichar seems to be determined to prove that Pushkar is a crook! Why I wonder. So what he has an account and he accepts donations and the donations become annonymous? So what as long as the donors have no problem wiht it! "Are we comfortable to deposit money directly to his account?" Maybe you need to get over the fact that just cause "you" are not comfortabel might not mean others are not. I am not pulling out my wallet to send a check to Pushkar, but if I were, so what, it would be my business now, wouldn't it? Nepalis are not stupid (or are they?). If people want to donate $$ to this guy, it's their business and what is it to anyone of us how much he has in donations and how he spends it. As long as he is biking around the world as he said he is doing, his individual donors are probably happy to support him. Now about his accident, if it was a hoax, it will catch up and he will pay for it somehoe. But otherwise... he is not a nonprofit to answer to donors or a business having to report to shareholders! |
| Sadabichar | Posted
on 08-Aug-03 03:19 PM
Think about 45 kms per day biking!!!! |
| rendra wasito | Posted
on 09-Aug-03 08:01 PM
Push Cycle Carji, Beg, borrow and steal and travel the world. Good on ya mate.... Don't listen to the great wanker Ashutosh Tiwari. His idea of travel is doing bungy jumping with a upside down thado tupi. He can't even walk as he has a in grown rotting toe nails in each of his foot like the great black Bhairab of Pashupati Nath. He is still searching for his NANGINI in Chabhahil. May be he will find one toe nail cutter femal pro after you have been around the world. Thumbs up mate and I will have a bear for you hear in OZ. |
| Sadabichar | Posted
on 10-Aug-03 10:44 AM
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| madmax | Posted
on 10-Aug-03 10:49 AM
That nigga needs to take care of his family back home instead of wandering around the world lusting for big-boobed sluts. I hope he gets screwed again, and perhaps he will begin to rethink his stupidity. |
| madmax | Posted
on 10-Aug-03 10:50 AM
Last time I met him, Puskar mentioned how he met this girl in China and that he wanted to live off her wealth. Unfortunately for his ass it didn't work it. So his lame ass is back on the bike. He is a mobile playa aka mobile pimp |
| Sadabichar | Posted
on 10-Aug-03 11:19 AM
IS he really going around the world or stcking to USA... Coz, he stepped into USA somewhere in May 23 2001 from Canada.... and since then he is been wandering around within USA tima and again until today. It's been more than 2 years, his life is hanging around USA, and time and often he does visit South American countries... The countries he visited are Cambodia, Barbados, Dominica, Dominican Republic, Nicaragua, Jamaica, Peurto Rico, Mexico.. Well only about ten counties in the period of more than 2 years (between May 2001 and to date). He goes to one or two of the countries in Southamerica and then comes back to USA.. coz there are enough Nepalis in USA who give him refuge... In a way he has been spoilt by the generosity of Nepalese in USA. His world tour has more like a travel by air than by bike these days.. coz he has his loads of cash now a days. from 1998 to 2001 he covered almost 40 countries.. but last 2 years,, he covered only 10 countries... why? coz he got stuck in USA!!!! In two years 10 countries.. does that sound like a world tour? How on earth can he get his name into Guinness Book of records... It will be a shameful even to claim for such record. I dont; mind people giving donations to him if they have loads of cash, but think well while you make such donations.. see how your donation is afecting the life/mind of the receiver. Don;t let him spoil anymore.. |
| Sadabichar | Posted
on 10-Aug-03 11:29 AM
Why can't people understand that "Around the world in 11 years" itself is a huge joke... and by the way he is doing this travel, requires him another 18.9 years ( so far he covered 75000 kms in 4.5 years, with targetting 390,000 kms) or at least he will need another 10 years to cover remaining 100 countries (target is 150 countries, but inlast 5 years he convered 52 countries). |
| dautari | Posted
on 10-Aug-03 07:28 PM
I heard something disturbing from a person who claims to be very close to Pushkar Shah's family. He says Pushkar was neither robbed nor kidnapped. He just needed more money and staged the drama in Mexico. ???? He also claims Pushkar has already made a fortune. The money he shows the world is only the sum that was officially donated to him. All the money from the unaccounted donations is safe in a separate bank account somewhere. I do not know what to make of those allegations. Somehow I don't want to beleive it. Now I have shared what I heard. It's up to you to believe it or not. |
| Sadabichar | Posted
on 10-Aug-03 10:17 PM
That's the exact question I raised earlier.. why on earth he has Bank account in his own name in USA? Remember, in Nepal theyhave foundation established to help raise the money for his journey.. it has a name called "Vishwo Cycle Yatri Pratisthan Nepal" and the donations was requested to be deposited into the account as given below. You can also make your contribution to Pushkar's journey. Account information of Vishwo Cycle Yatri Pratisthan Nepal Current Account No. 012364 Agriculture Development Bank New Baneshwor, Kathmandu So Dautari jee, what you've heard is exactly what I suspect as well. In this thread, I raised the validity of the story of him being robbed in Mexico.. and dramatically it was said that he managed to protet his wallet with passport and Monet!! and the next posting inthis thread was from nepalisite.com which declares that all his belongings were found.. like a drama eh? He is not even close to Forrest Gump.. at least it was shown in the nmovie that wherever Gump ran, later he had so many folowers to join him running. But for our Pushkar Shah, he says he bikes.. he says he visited so many countries.. but where are the locals in each country joining his journey? Who is there to validate whatever distances he bikes in each country? He says he biked.. but there is ample of instances where he travelled in buses.. and then reaches specific City and meets nepalese poeple and tellthem that "Oh, I am so tired now,, I biked all the way from City A to this City B" |
| Sadabichar | Posted
on 10-Aug-03 10:23 PM
To claim for the title "Around the World in 11 years" sounds a Huge Joke to everybody in this world.. But by the time he finishes his journey, if he ever completes, then it will be nothing for world peace or peace for Nepal.. but certainly he can claim the tile "Around the World in 11 years ( I know he cannot finish in 11 years the way he is doing now) with 100 Rs." |
| Sadabichar | Posted
on 10-Aug-03 10:25 PM
I know there is some sort of scam going on.. and I know he cannot do it alone.. there is some group/people helping him out as well as that group is digging gold !!! |
| Sadabichar | Posted
on 11-Aug-03 10:23 AM
One day Gautam Buddha was at Jitwan Bihar. A Brahman gambler came to see him and asked many nonsense questions. Buddha kindly responded telling him that if you waste your time sleeping most of time and live without work being lazy, drink wines and other drugs, unnecessary talks, elongated travel abroad alone and involve in infidelity to other's women, then your life will be spoilt (sarvanash). By the mean time he asked him, " Dear Brahman, how much do you win/lose from the game?" The Brahman answered: "Sometime I win a lot and sometime lose." Then Bhagawan Buddha told him with a Pali slok: Look at Brahman, the person who can win sufferings or pains and indiscretion of stupidity, he is called the super winner. If you win a lot in a game, you cannot be the super winner. You cannot save it forever and sometimes you will lose it. If you win sufferings/pains and indiscretion or stupidity, you will win forever, there is no chance to lose it again. If you can suppress your uncontrolled desires, it is worth than to defeat the thousands and thousands of enemies in war and you cannot be defeated even by any Gods, Gandharvas and the Bramha (Creator). |
| Sadabichar | Posted
on 11-Aug-03 07:26 PM
Ok lot of bashing.. now some suggestions: In last 5 years, our Pushkar has biked total of about 80,000 Kms.... (on average, 45 kms per day). Since his target is 390,000 Kms in 11 years covering 150 countries, remaining distance to be biked = 310,000 Kms in 6 years ending in 2009 Nov. To complete this, he will have to still bike 310,000/(6*365) = 140 kms each day from now onwards till he finishes. Now compare what he has biked so far (45 kms/day on average) with what is required (140 kms/day). It's a big big challenge ahead for him that he should take it very seriousely. Otherewise, he will be a subject of mockery. Moneys being poured by Nepalese in USA and other countries for his journey... but how much will be really required still? My concern is, there is no way that he will finish 310,000 kms in next 6 years unless a deep thinking and awakening happens in his mind. And then reduce his target. Most importantly, in his own travel diary, he hasn't fail to bash anyone who rejected to meet him or support him or help him. Therefore, Later I don't want Pushkar to come up with nefarious excuses for his failure to complete the world tour in 11 years after having completed far less than his target 390,000 kms, and then bashing/complaining against the very Nepalese around the world so many of whom have helped him so much. If he fails, it would be a great cheating by a Nepali to the whole world. He must change his game plan now... he is in a dire straits already !!!! World tour with Rs. 100 on bike is not Khyal Thatta.. however, we commend him for taking up such a undaunting challenge.. And it is evident that he can drag himself in this journey by hook or by crook.. but reaching his goals is not in the horizon. For sure he can complete 390,000 kms... perhaps visit 150 countries as well as, but for sure NOT in 11 YEARS. |
| Sadabichar | Posted
on 13-Aug-03 09:11 AM
Below is the letter from Guinness World Record which explain what is eligible to be called a record for Guinness Records. Therefore, Pushkar Shah's yatra cannot be recognized as world record because if completed the wolrd tour on bike in 11 years covering 390,000 km, there seems to be not many people who might be trying to break his record (OK, I know he cannot complete 390,000 kms in 11 years as explained in other posting above) in near future. In order to get your record entered in Guinness Records, it has to be (i) breakable and (ii) likely to be broken . I don't think there will be another person in this world who will go out for the world tour on bike with only Rs. 100. ------------------- 17 January 2003 Dear Mr Krapf: Thank you for sending us the details of your recent record proposal for 'fastest mountainbike-sidecar-racers'. I am afraid to say that we are unable to accept this as a Guinness World Record. Although your activity is certainly unique, we only publish world records for feats that are breakable and also likely to be broken (that is, to attract a great deal of interest from other potential record-breakers). Your activities may well be unique, but this is regrettably not the same thing as a record, and we would only consider recognising a record for mountain biking with sidecar if this sport became more widespread and popular. I appreciate that this may be disappointing to you, but I hope that this does not deter you from trying again. We are always keen to hear from people who wish to set a Guinness World Record. If you should need any advice regarding breaking an existing record or setting a new Guinness World Record please contact us again through our website or directly quoting the above membership number. Once again thank you for contacting Guinness World Records. We wish you every success with any future record-breaking endeavors. Yours sincerely, Amanda Sprague Records Research Services |
| Sadabichar | Posted
on 14-Aug-03 07:08 PM
So where has Pushkar reached (by air/ land/ sea)? |
| jyapuu | Posted
on 15-Aug-03 09:52 AM
Sadabichar: I think it's about time to give this thread a rest. |
| Sadabichar | Posted
on 15-Aug-03 09:54 AM
I agree |
| Sadabichar | Posted
on 16-Aug-03 01:00 PM
Can you trust Nepalisite when making donations to Pushkar's Journey... ? Do you think 100 % donated through this Paypal will be channelled to Pushkar? I heard that nowadays Pushkar shah travelling visitng countries with Credit Card in his pocket. 
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| bhojpuree | Posted
on 18-Aug-03 01:00 PM
I used to appreciate his effort and collected some donation for him. But, now it seems to me that he knows the value of US$$$$$$ and he forgot his aim and goals totally and trying to collect donation making movie style story. How many people think that was the true story? That is just bullsit. Come one, if I see him again I am going to ask to return donation he got from us. If not I might take his bicycle. He is full of li.............. |
| Sadabichar | Posted
on 18-Aug-03 06:57 PM
Next time when you meet him, he will be riding pajero not the bike. At max, you can drive a nail in hi sone of the tires!!! |
| sparsha | Posted
on 18-Aug-03 07:26 PM
Sadabichar, you have established a position for yourself through this thread. I hope you will maintain the status of your position by defending it-if challanged. |
| Sadabichar | Posted
on 18-Aug-03 09:45 PM
Yeah, I have worked out with some numbers here and posted about it. I would be delighted to hear from ppl who do not believe in those numbers. |
| nepzkilla | Posted
on 19-Aug-03 06:19 AM
who in the blue hell is p. shah.. man...... |
| dogz | Posted
on 19-Aug-03 04:23 PM
Some great man!! Really cunning, brave, you name it. He is my idol. Greatest actor. |
| sadabichar | Posted
on 20-Aug-03 09:11 AM
Yeah.. Pushkar Shah managed to collect almost US$5000 from a single US city he visited as someone wrote in another thread. Imagine how much he might have amassed from all the cities he visited in US. He covered 21 states in USA ( don't know how many cities) spending almost 2 years in total. The reason why he stressed so much travelling USA and devoted such a long time is quite obvious now. It's all about $$$$$... not about peace. He shoudl be rather spending more time in those countries where peace is not on the horizon such as Middle-East, Liberia, Afganistan, India, Chechnya and many more and most importantly NEPAL. |
| sadabichar | Posted
on 20-Aug-03 09:15 AM
Oh yeah, IRAQ. |