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| ramite | Posted
on 11-Aug-03 04:03 PM
Dear All, Madhuban Paudel Honolulu, Hawaii and D Adhikari, Michigan, USA. Thank you for writing for all of us. I always wanted to write something about it...but never got a chance..I hope few other will rise to defend. CK Lal is my favourite columnist. His is the first thing I turn to on your internet editions. I admire his analysis and understanding. But it is when CK Lal writes on Hinduism or on his pet subject of Bahunbad that it gets disgusting. I dont understand why he is going out of his way to champion himself as one of the crusaders against Bahuns. Does it help to make Nepal a secular country in the near future? What does he gain by making a mockery of Hinduism? Are Bahuns ahead of other so-called down-trodden ones to espouse communalism in Nepal? Certainly not, and I challenge Lal on this issue. My Muslim friends and American colleagues are so dedicated to propound the cause of their faiths, and it hurts when Hinduism cant be similarly defended. Lal should use his wit and wisdom in more constructive writings than running down his own faith. If he has one. Madhuban Paudel Honolulu, Hawaii " I am a Bahun, although I call myself Brahmin. Pardon my sophistication for sticking to the original Sanskrit here, CK Lal. My whole family was Brahmin and I am a pure Brahmin. My mamaghar is Brahmin, Sanima and Phupu are Brahmin. One phupu did marry a Newar and that was more than 28 years ago. But that probably wont tell you the degree of our conservatism clearly. I, myself, recently got married to an American (a whitey, Swiss-German Mennonite guy from the Midwest). And guess what? My family is fine with it. So you might be asking me, hey wait a minute, where is your bahun naak (pride), right? Well yeah, thats what I am wondering. I am not sure what exactly you were you trying to say in your article (Kingdom of the bahuns, #153). We Brahmins, even though revered highly by Vedas etc, never really tried to rule this poor country of our. We were not the ones to suck the blood of poor Nepalis for 105 years. On the contrary, we tried to earn a decent livelihood by studying hard, getting a job and going places. So why are you envious of that? I would rather have you write about the class of people who rely on their might and money to get places. Not us. Not one person in my family has the pride you are referring to. In fact, all I have learnt while growing up is: work hard, be honest and god will be good to you. In fact, I have personally seen some insane injustices happen to my family that made us feel pretty helpless and powerless because we were Brahmins. Or maybe because we were just ordinary Nepalis. If you were a Bahun, Lal, you would know that it is no big deal. Most of us dont have the feeling of supremacy that you are hallucinating about. And about secular faith, let me give you an example: I lived in a Buddhist town most of my life and even though raised Hindu, I consider myself Hindu-Buddhist, just out of respect to my surrounding roots. We are not as orthodox as you make us out to be. D Adhikari, Michigan, USA |
| sankaa | Posted
on 11-Aug-03 05:43 PM
ramite, how are you ? i have a question for ya.. do you think your parents who are cool with you marrying an American , to be precise as you decribed, "a whitey, Swiss-German Mennonite guy from the Midwest" , would be cool too, if you had married a low low caste person from Nepal? i hate to menton the slurs but i have to in order to make my points; So, if you had fallen in love with a 'poday' , or a 'chamay' or a ' damai' , would your family be still cool? please be honest. most ppl hate bahun politicians, not necessarly talking about your family.Yes, it is not good to generalize but look at the very very obvious scenerio in Nepali politics; can't you see bahun/brahmin ministers and politicians looting the poor jantas money? you have to be lie to yourself you say no... Now don't blame ranas for 104 yrs. They were not elected and they didn't make any committent to people. However most bahun politicans are elected and they say this and that to win an election and when they come to minister quarter in Ktm, they forget everything.They were the hope after yrs of struggle of Nepali janta.. and they betrayed them.. so let the janta speak up.. Also, Blaming ranas or panchayat system should not be excuse to loot the property of poor Nepal, some bahun biraders gotta learn that. Let the Janta speak up. I would love to see that day, when a brahmin girl in my tole back home would marry a 'pode' guy. I would love to see that day, when a brahmin guy would marry a ' chamay' in my tole. I would love to see that day when a damai would become the president of Nepal. This is making me sick.. bye bye.. no offense intended.. just spoke up what is obvious.. |
| Rastafariya | Posted
on 11-Aug-03 06:01 PM
Yo biraders! You wants I to answer? I is likes to ask first if you wants I to write or not. |
| nepali_angel | Posted
on 11-Aug-03 07:42 PM
Sankaa, of course your people hate bahuns due to the fact that we are controlling Nepal. Being jealous is just being human. Thank god you're not showing your bestial side. That's due to the fact that you people feel insecure, feel like you can't compete with bahuns' intelligence. But please remember that some people are inherently superior in some aspects to other people and vice versa. Bahuns just know how to use their grey matter. I am of course not going to deny that the so-called Janajatis also have their own untapped skills. I guess your people are superior in sports, although not necessarily physically, because bahuns happen to be the tallest ethnic group in Nepal, since we're the descendents of the Aryans who invaded South Asia. And listen you asshole, show some proof that bahuns have looted properties of other people. That's just pure propaganda. There is no proof for that. Just admit it. I know my grandparents came down from some place in the pahad with no money. We just moved up by using our brains. You're not as intelligent as we are. That's why you all are paleys and chowkidars in India, or soldiers in the UK, basically serving as cannon fodder or vanguards for the British. If you wanna marry a podey, do so yourself. Since it seem like you're cognizant of this disparity in our society, so my supposition would be that you too have the bias. I know some Janajati groups that enquire about bahuns' lifestyle, a way of admitting our mental superiority. It just shows that you know the truth. |
| Rastafariya | Posted
on 11-Aug-03 08:01 PM
Birader Angel! You is call them superiority? Them deceieving peopal is Superiority? Them taking ghoosh is superiority? Them eating all them Lauda is Superiority? Them Making big big houses from them government money while them Nasion is going deeper and deeper in debt is superiority? Birader Angel them Bahuns never looted no peopals money. Them only started them systam of Ghoosh. Them takin Ghoosh is no looting. It only taking money for them services them is suppose to provide as them government servants. I is unnerstand your point birader Angel. Why them you is getting angry? I is unnerstand them never do nothing wrong with taking some extra ghoosh at Bhansar, at them Suchana mantralaya, at them Krishi Mantralaya, at Them Dursanchar mantralaya. Them nothing wrong with taking them Ghoosh. That is just honest Superiority of them brain. You is ask him Haribansha Acharya how them use them superior intelligence to take Honest Ghoosh. You is very right birader Angel. |
| ramite | Posted
on 11-Aug-03 08:23 PM
Dear Rastafariya, Man I dont hav time to read ur funtoos way of writting so I'm not going to reply you. TO Mr SANKKA, * Who ruled the country for 104 yrs..?? Rana did...Are Rana Bahuns ? * Shah Dynast is rulling Nepal from 200 yrs..Are they Bahuns ? * Let me remind you few names of our PM...from first PM Thapa to GIRI, BISTA, CHAND, TAHPA, SHRESTHA, KOIRALA , BHATTARI, ADHIKARI.....Count the Bahuns and others... * What about Royal Army ? How many hing ranking officials are bahun ? * What about Police ? One of the Corrupt organisation of Nepal...From top to bottom Bahun rt ? * Travel agency, tourism...dominated by bahuns?? *INGOS and business...dominated by bahuns? Hey wat abt RNAC chief..HONKOG RANA.....hes bahun too.. Dear friend, point is everyone is responsible for this situation of this country...dont just plainly point to Bahun. |
| Rastafariya | Posted
on 11-Aug-03 08:42 PM
Birader Ramite so you is saying them if you is marry them Nepali kami or Tamang or Limbu them your parents will be happy? \ You is never answer straight quesion. You is just like them peopal them ministers. |
| sankaa | Posted
on 11-Aug-03 09:09 PM
Thanks Ramite for holding your temper and being polite. Let me write something for our dear, Nepali angel and i will write to you on another message ok. Nepali Angel: you said : " of course your people hate bahuns due to the fact that we are controlling Nepal. Being jealous is just being human" --> Did i say what catagory i belong too? how did you generalize me , as you ppl? WEll , since you have started let me tell you , I belong to Chhetri, the pure ones , not the ones who were dropped from Bahuns ( another tech of bahuns to pollute chhetries). The ones who prithivi Narayan shah said , he used them as SCOWRD, and he went to ask help to my ansistors to unite Nepal. Bahuns have never controlled Nepal. You guys are too weak , if you guys were not backed by brave chhetries ha ha you guys were wearing bangles and doing mujura for other races in some parts of India. you said: "Thank god you're not showing your bestial side. That's due to the fact that you people feel insecure, feel like you can't compete with bahuns' intelligence. But please remember that some people are inherently superior in some aspects to other people and vice versa" --> Yeah thank god for that, cuz if we do show our bestial side then .....it would be bad for your chicken heart. Some ppl are born that way , you know. Listen, You guys never fought in the history. You guys always used we chhetries. If someone died, you guys would be there fot daans, if someone borned- you guys would be there for daans. So basically you guys were raised by chhetries' daans. WE are not insecure you little coward. You feel like, to be secure you have to loot and make money illegally. You were always insecure, thats why you guys twisted good VEdas and Puranas so you guys can benifit and manupulated we chheties for ages and other races as well. Vedas , purans and other hindu books say that ppl belong to one caste according to duty they do in a society not by birth. So , i wouldn't call you and other looters brahmins. They do not meet the requirement of being a brahmin. They are looters. And , a Pode, who is educated and has wisdom is a brahmin , according to HIndusm.. You guys gave hinduism a bad name. Now , the whole HInduism is in process to extint, cuz of your croocked tricks of scoring Dachinas. you said: "Bahuns just know how to use their grey matter." Sure, they know how to work in Vanshar, or become a chamcha of a minister or how to make commision by building a fake bridge. How can anyone deny , you guys are the best of the best looters.. you call that smartness? pathetic... you said:" I guess your people are superior in sports, although not necessarily physically, because bahuns happen to be the tallest ethnic group in Nepal, since we're the descendents of the Aryans who invaded South Asia." ---> ha ha yea yea, tall but stoop like a hashiya. ha ha don't even make me start on physical and courage capability of bahuns. ha ha.. what's the matter with you? you talk , like you've never been in Nepal. Also, may i ask where did you get that data; i mean bahuns being tallest ethnic group in Nepal. If you happen to find one, whould you also look for bahuns being the cowardest ethinic group in Nepal - data also ;) And, puta, Bahuns never fought , like i already said. It was chhetries , but yeah, bahuns were always there to collect dachina when a brave chhetri was born or he was dead on a war. you said: "That's why you all are paleys and chowkidars in India, or soldiers in the UK, basically serving as cannon fodder or vanguards for the British" ---> yo puta, listen, Chowkidars in India, or soldiers in the UK, have good reputations. they are there cuz of their hard work and honesty. But, i've heard that in some parts of India , some bahuns are actively washing dishes and being palays these days and they are doing the same thing as they are doing in Nepal , so .. ppl are being skeptical lately.. Anyways, these guys bring dollars and IC to Nepal. They are hard workers and they are assets to Nepal, unlike you looters... you said: " And listen you asshole, show some proof that bahuns have looted properties of other people. That's just pure propaganda" asshole hmm , well listen you piece of ghuu that comes from that asshole, just go look around in Kathmandu, and look at new houses build by bahuns and ask the ppl in the nieghborhood where do they work. ha ha .. yeah.. you bahuns must have a soon ko khukura to get some golden eggs.., cuz some bhanu netas that i've personally know , and who were dirt poor in village must have won powerball lottery otherwise. Open you eyes silly, yo don't need proof for what is obvious, or are you tryin' to play that bahun game with me again. hehehe, time has changed latti , we have become smarter than earlier, no more bahun games on us ;) ps: I am not generalizing these statements to all the bahuns/brahmins in Nepal.I respect good Bahuns as i respect a good podey or a good chhetry or a good Newar. This is only and Only meant for Corrupted bahuns and this stupid girl, Nepal boxi.. opps Nepal angel. |
| sankaa | Posted
on 11-Aug-03 09:23 PM
SCOWRD = Sword, should be pounds not dollars hehe |
| sankaa | Posted
on 11-Aug-03 09:26 PM
ramite: 1st of all, you didn't answer my question about what would have happened if you had married a pode. hmm , however, it's ok.. lets move on.. yes chhetries didn't do very good job on making the country better :( it's sad..BUT now we have democracy , now these political leaders are elected, they have made committment, they have promised to Nepali jantas. Are they gonna make excuses and blame Chhetries and keep looting? is that a good excuse according to you? Brahmins always blame chhetries. I feel bad for we chhetries. Other races dont' like us cuz we are close to brahmins and brahmins don't like us cuz we're not like them, although we protected them through the Aryan civilazation. it's time to forget this bahun, chhetri , pode, newar, Mongolian, kirati, shyttt.. really.. it's time for us to move on.. and unite for real.. That what i was trying to say in my early posting to you. WITH THIS, I WILL NOT BE POSTING ANYMORE ON THIS TOPIC. SOMEONE PLZZ HANDLE NEPAL ANGEL, CUS SHE WILL SURELY COME BACK TO CHEW BY BALLZ. I DON'T WANT TO DEVELOPE HATERED TOWARD THE ENTIRE GROUP OF PPL CUZ OF THIS PATHETIC GIRL. peace and love to everyone.... |
| yogi | Posted
on 11-Aug-03 09:39 PM
Why bitch about Bahun Man............Get a life. sankaaji and rastafaria bro.............. Let me tell you this. Bahuns are not only in politics they are doctors, engineers, professors in so many other profession you can think of both home and abroad. During the Vedic period, Hinduism developed caste system to introduce the division of labor. At that time one who can receive charity and give charity, one who can perform karma kanda and practice karma kanda, one who teach and learn was considered Brahmin. Chetri cannot perform karma kanda as a priest but have other five qualities. Vaisya and Sudra are categorized accordingly. The practice continued generations after generations till this date. What is Brahmin anyways? As Vedas and Upanishad describes Brahmin as who he is beyond sorrow and pleasure, he who has no earthly desires, free of kam Krodha, Lova and moha and the one who has reached the stage of self-actualization from meditation and knowledge. If any one of us can reach this stage then we are Brahmins. So instead of stigmatize bahun, why not try to do something and realize the ultimate truth in life. I don't have any problem touching his feet even if he/she was born pode or chyame. You cannot blame bahuns for rampant corruption in Nepal. Politics is considered as one of the many professions in the third world. Politicians do not get paid any remuneration like anybody else. How do you expect them to raise their family without any source of income? To avoid corruption, there should be some mechanism so that politicians can also maintain life with two squares of meals. I have seen so many people who lost everything by joining politics. Corruption was blatantly instilled in the political system in the tenure of The Late King Birendra. He did not rule the country effectively as a Statesman. He spent most of his initial years criticizing his own dad, sacking good and experienced people who were groomed by the late King Mahendra. I don't think King Gyanendra can control corruption either. Big business tycoons are the ones who like to corrupt the system for their own benefits. So, wait a minute, I don't think so many Brahmins control business in Nepal. People who receives ghus and who gives ghus are equally responsible. So guys please don't blame Brahmins for everything that goes wrong in Nepal and try to reach the stage of Brahmana yourself. The stage of ultimate truth, full of knowledge, compassion, love, and givings. thank You yogi |
| Sadabichar | Posted
on 11-Aug-03 10:05 PM
This is the sayings of Buddha: The Brahmin Cut the stream and go across, abandon sensuality, brahmin. When you have achieved the stilling of the activities of the mind, you will know the unconditioned, brahmin. When a brahmin has crossed beyond duality, then all the fetters of such a seer come to an end. When a man knows no this shore, other shore, or both - such a one, free from anxiety, liberated, that is what I call a brahmin. Meditating, free from stain, settled in mind, with job accomplished, without inflowing thoughts, and having achieved the supreme purpose - that is what I call a brahmin. By day it is the sun which shines, at night the moon shines forth. A warrior shines in his armour, and a brahmin shines in meditation. But at all times, by day and by night, the Buddha shines in his glory. A brahmin is called so by breaking with evil deeds. It is by pious behaviour that a man is called a man of religion, and by casting out blemishes one is called one gone forth. One should not strike a brahmin, and nor should a brahmin lose his temper. Shame on him who strikes a brahmin, and shame on him who loses his temper because of it. Nothing is better in a brahmin than this - that he restrains his mind from pleasurable things. Suffering disappears for him to the same extent that he gets rid of thoughts of harming anyone. He who does no wrong with body, speech or mind, but is restrained in all three spheres - that is what I call a brahmin. One should reverently pay homage to the man from whom one has learned the Truth, taught by the True Buddha, like a brahmin does to the sacrificial fire. One is not a brahmin by virtue of matted hair, lineage or caste. When a man possesses both Truth and truthfulness, then he is pure, then he is a brahmin. What use is your matted hair, you fool? What use is your antelope skin? You are tangled inside, and you are just making the outside pretty. The man who wears robes made from rags off the dust heap, who is gaunt, with his sinews standing out all over his body, alone meditating in the forest - that is what I call a brahmin. I do not call him a brahmin who is so by natural birth from his mother. He is just a supercilious person if he still has possessions of his own. He who owns nothing of his own, and is without attachment - that is what I call a brahmin. He who, having cut off all fetters, does not get himself upset, but is beyond bonds - that liberated man is what I call a brahmin. He who has cut off both bond and strap, halter as well as bridle, who has removed the barrier, himself a Buddha - that is what I call a brahmin. He who endures undisturbed criticism, ill-treatment and bonds, strong in patience, and that strength his power - that is what I call a brahmin. Without anger, devout, upright, free from craving, disciplined and in his last body - that is what I call a brahmin. Like water on a lotus leaf, like a mustard seed on the point of an pin, he who is not stuck to the senses - that is what I call a brahmin. He who has experienced the end of his suffering here in this life, who has set down the burden, freed! - that is what I call a brahmin. The sage of profound wisdom, the expert in the right and wrong road, he who has achieved the supreme purpose - that is what I call a brahmin. Not intimate with laity or monks, wandering about with no abode, and few needs - that is what I call a brahmin. Abandoning violence to all living creatures moving or still, he who neither kills or causes killing - that is what I call a brahmin. Unagitated amongst the agitated, at peace among the violent, without clinging among those who cling - that is what I call a brahmin. He from whom desire and aversion, conceit and hypocrisy have fallen away, like a mustard seed on the point of a pin - that is what I call a brahmin. He who utters only gentle, instructive and truthful speech, criticising no-one - that is what I call a brahmin. He who takes nothing in the world that has not been given him, long or short, big or small, attractive or that is what I call a brahmin. He who has no desires in this world or the next, without longings, freed! - that is what I call a brahmin. He who has no attachments and has been freed from uncertainty by realisation, who has plunged into the deathless - that is what I call a brahmin. He who has even here and now transcended the fetter of both good and evil, who is sorrowless, faultless and pure - that is what I call a brahmin. The man who is stainless, pure, clear and free from impurities like the moon, the search for pleasure extinguished - that is what I call a brahmin. He who has transcended the treacherous mire of samsara and ignorance, who has crossed over, reached the other shore, meditating, motionless of mind, free from uncertainty, and who is at peace by not clinging to anything - that is what I call a brahmin. He who by here and now abandoning sensuality, has gone forth a homeless wanderer, the search for pleasure extinguished - that is what I call a brahmin. He who by here and now abandoning craving, has gone forth a homeless wanderer, the search for pleasure extinguished - that is what I call a brahmin. He who has abandoned human bonds, and transcended those of heaven, liberated from all bonds - that is what I call a brahmin. He who has abandoned pleasure and displeasure, is cooled off and without further fuel, the hero who has conquered all worlds - that is what I call a brahmin. He who has seen the passing away and rebirth of all beings, free of clinging, blessed, awakened - that is what I call a brahmin. He whose path devas, spirits and men cannot know, whose inflowing thoughts are ended, a saint - that is what I call a brahmin. He who has nothing of his own, before, after or in between, possessionless and without attachment - that is what I call a brahmin. Bull-like, noble, a hero, a great sage, and a conqueror, he who is motionless of mind, washed clean and awakened - that is what I call a brahmin. He who has known his former lives and can see heaven and hell themselves, while he has attained the extinction of rebirth, a seer, master of transcendent knowledge, and master of all masteries - that is what I call a brahmin. |
| Sadabichar | Posted
on 11-Aug-03 10:10 PM
Janmera pani Brahmin banchha.... aacharan le po ta Brahmin hunchha!!!!! Mathi ullekhit tavarle chalnu paryo... sabaile... Ke ko jhagada ni bahun/non-bahun bhanera? Janmiyera thar Bahun bhayo bhanera naak phulaunu pardaina.... |
| Sadabichar | Posted
on 11-Aug-03 10:12 PM
Ani naak thepcho bho bhanera pani inferior complexity lyaunu hunna. Datera mehenat garnu parchha... aatma swatchha garnu parchha.. sabai ko bhalo chitaunu parchha. |
| Sadabichar | Posted
on 11-Aug-03 10:12 PM
La aba fight sight haina ni... sab milera basnu... |
| Rastafariya | Posted
on 11-Aug-03 11:25 PM
Birader Yogi! That what I is sayin. Dont blame Bahun biraders. Blame Bahun biraders fada, granfada and granfadas fada. Dont blame them Bahun biraders! |
| jhilke kyailan | Posted
on 12-Aug-03 01:40 AM
Isn't it time that bahun bashing stopped and we start looking to the future instead, united in our Nepalihood and togehter in our struggles. Being an ex-bahun myself, I understand where ramite is coming from but there is also another side to the story. It is the bahun culture which propogated the caste system so that they could remain on top of the religious and social heiarchy, and it is that caste system which is the single most destructive and devisive factor in our society today. Ofcourse there were people from other ethnic groups who were willing participants in this process of institutionalising the caste system as it was beneficial to them, in the same way as it was some africans who would capture and sell other africans to white slave traders. All ethnic groups have to take responsibility for the state of Nepal today, not only bahuns. I used to think that a lot of the blame could be attributed to the Ranas, but some soul searching has lead me to believe that the blame should be clearly also placed on us too, the people, as we allowed it to happen.. So stop with all this people...stop blaming one group and start think collectively for the future. The wrongs of the past have to righted but they must also be forgiven. Wisdom and compassion go hand in hand. |
| RBaral | Posted
on 12-Aug-03 05:23 AM
Ok. Talking about Jat Bhat is good, but bashing might not be a good thing to do. I think, there are several similarities between Bahun and Chhetri. They do pretty much the same thing, except that Chhetris are not allowed to perform religious activities, whereas Bahuns are restricted to religious acts. Maybe this is the reason why anthropologist Dor Bahadur Bista, in his book Sabai Jaat-ko Phool Baari, has termed Bahun-Chhetri as one caste. Bahun has been observed to be the most vulnerable caste of Nepal. If you talk about Bahun in public, you'll find out hundreds of people speaking the same lines, outrightly Bahun-bashing. Chhetris, do have neither mythological explanation nor heriditary, as far as JatBhat background goes. According to mythology, a brave Bahun named Parashuram rooted out all Chhetris, being a nontrustworthy caste. One was alive for a little longer, hidden under his wife's lingerie, in hopes not to be killed from a Bahun's furious anger. If we talk of today's Chhetri, they were titled Chhetri from Bahun only 10 to 15 generations ago (at most). Please take time and read the lineage of any Chhetri carefuly only to find out they were Bahuns a couple of generations ago. This trend is continuing. I, being a Bahun, do have several Chhetri relatives. Some of my grandparents' brothers (sometimes sisters) married an outcast and those derivatives became Chhetris. A surprising note I have observed, a Chhetri that has close lineage to Bahun is the most outspoken Bahun-basher. There are several Chhetris and Damais and Magars in the villages of Nepal who have "Baral" as their last name. All of them share the same great-great-- grandparents with me, who happens to be the most vulnerable caste Bahun. But, Magar and Damai Barals are not as strong Bahun-bashers as Chhetri Barals are. Bahun-bashing is very deep-rooted among Chhetris. By doing this, Chhetris have taken the advantage of hiding under a shadow when it comes to Janjati Andolan. My two cents. I have nothing against Jan Jaatis. I stand with their suppression. I understand that Janjati and so called Pani NaChanle Jaat have been miserably exploited by superior castes. But my point is, the superior caste is Bahun*and*Chhetri. Not only Bahun. If someone has question as to where Magar, Damai, and Chhetris who come from the same lineage (in my case, Baral) as to where Bahuns come from, let me write. Go to the villages of Dang and Nawalparasi, you will find several Baral Magars and Chhetris. Go to Panchthar, Kaski and Lamjung, you will see Bahun Barals and a few Chhetri Barals. Go to Kathmundu Valley outskirts, you will find several Damai Barals. Namaste, Rishi Baral |
| sadabichar | Posted
on 12-Aug-03 07:24 AM
Budhha said: I do not call him a brahmin who is so by natural birth from his mother. He is just a supercilious person if he still has possessions of his own. He who owns nothing of his own, and is without attachment - that is what I call a brahmin. One is not a brahmin by virtue of matted hair, lineage or caste. When a man possesses both Truth and truthfulness, then he is pure, then he is a brahmin. What use is your matted hair, you fool? What use is your antelope skin? You are tangled inside, and you are just making the outside pretty. The man who is stainless, pure, clear and free from impurities like the moon, the search for pleasure extinguished - that is what I call a brahmin. |
| llcoola | Posted
on 12-Aug-03 09:03 AM
Din bhari bahun ,sajha pare pachi down, din ko char choti ranga ko momo khaun. Bhane ko kya hun= Bahun... Here is another song dedicated to all bahun biradars.... Ma momo~~cha ma, al~~~jhi rahe~~ko, auta ba~~hun.............. |
| isolated freak | Posted
on 12-Aug-03 09:40 AM
hmm one more in the series!! absolutely worthless and inconclusive discussion. |
| momocha | Posted
on 12-Aug-03 10:28 AM
RBaral Ji, There are several similarities between bahuns, chhetries, newar , Rai , Limbu, Gurung , even whites from western world and blacks from Africa; we all have red blood, we all have eyes to see , head to think and so on&If you are talking about caste similarities according to Nepal then, bahuns and chhetries are different. Bahus and Chhetries have never done the same job. It has always been different. Bahuns were supposed to do religious stuff and chhetries were supposed to warfare. That is why Bahuns were never seen in Army and Chhetries are never seen in temples reading mantras. However, In modern context, we all do everything for living, which is nice, in that case bahuns , chheties , damies, podes we all are the same happyy happy ppl ;) So don't try to attach Chhetries only with Bahuns if you want to get attached, then attach podes , magars, kamis and tharus too. Bahuns have always used chhetreis to defend themselves from other cases to hide their mess. Chheties are being scapegoats for bahuns and I would like to point that out to all the chhetries brothers out there. Mr Baral, I believe that Bahuns have manipulated the old purans and old books. I believe that Parshuram is a fictional- mythological character that ancient bahuns had created to make chhetris look inferior than them. If Parshuram had killed all the chheties besides one, then howcom in his life time there were thousands (may be millions, I dont know) of chhetries fighting in the Mahabharat Yudha. So, Parashuram is another twist that crooked bahuns had created in order to manipulate the religion and make bahuns look like they can dominate chhetries. Actually, bahuns had never let other castes including chhetries to learn Shanskrik to understand Hinduism. They had/have make Hinduism as a religion that would directly benefit them. They are experts to twist and turn the Hindu holy books. How often have you head in religious pujas that a bahun would say, aahh hajur , ma bahun lay bhanay pachi huncha kaya, dhukka bhayara garay huncha. I have heard that a lot. You mentoned, Please take time and read the lineage of any Chhetri carefuly only to find out they were Bahuns a couple of generations ago. This trend is continuing. I, being a Bahun, do have several Chhetri relatives. Some of my grandparents' brothers (sometimes sisters) married an outcast and those derivatives became Chhetris Sir, I know my 17 ancestors. They were all Chheties. Sir, in my family no one is married to a Bahun. We, however, were mixed with Magars when we were in back villages; my great- great granda was married with a magar. Sir, according to Hinduism, Bahuns and Chhetries were created at the same time. So chhetries are not made by bahuns. Chhetries were always there. Personally, I believe that Bahuns in history must have included we great fighting people to their race for their protection. True chhetires are not the ones who are dropped from bahuns. Just look at the Physque of a true chhetri and a bahun , you will see the differences. We don't have long sharp nose and skiny chin, like you guys do. Bahuns dropped -chhetries process, is the trick of bahuns to corrupt the purity of chhetries and to make them feel like they are inferior to bahuns. Chhetri bashing is the favorite thing for bahuns to do. They are sure that chhetires who are used and brainwashed by their race for generations would not just go against the belief of their ancestors and harm bahuns. So they feel safe to bash on chhetries than other castes. Rather than feeling gratitude for the brave cheetries for saving their lives for ages, these bahuns are always using them and mistreating them; one of the reasons why Chhetries are joining the group of bahun bashers. |
| yogi | Posted
on 12-Aug-03 12:07 PM
Momochaji: In modern Nepal after prithivi Naraya Shah, we can enumerate chetri cast in finger. They are karki, Thapa not magar Thapa (eventhough Prithivi Naayan Shah declared them Chetri and recruited them in his army), Basnet, and Pade not Pande. Other Chetri castes are just derivatives of brahmins. Brahmin + Brahmin = Brahmin Brahmin+ other caste(Chetri, Vaishya, sudra) = chetri Brahmin + Rana or Shaha, Shahi (Thakuri in general) = Hamal This is the way it is whether you like it or not my friend. yogi |
| RBaral | Posted
on 12-Aug-03 01:04 PM
Momocha ji: I never said that Chettri is dropped from a Bahun. Don't take that way. I said, Chhetris, if considered their ancestors, were all in essence Bahuns. Please verify it with another Chhetri, namely Dor B. Bista, who himself is a Chhetri. I don't have generations count though. NO cast is superior. Regarding phycal fitness, go to the villages. A hali (usually Chhetri) is no more that an Baause (any cast, Bahun, damai etc.) Thoroughly enjoyed your input. I will try to catch with you tomorrow. Time to leave. Namaste, A fellow Bahun Rishi |
| llcoola | Posted
on 12-Aug-03 01:10 PM
I believe most Bahun/Chettrei/Newar or whatsoever casts are hinduz and according to our Ramayan Parashuram distroyed all Cheteries from this world ..so howcome there are still some Chetteriz around? So either our holy epic is not true or these chetteriz are counterfeit Just a thought |
| Sadabichar | Posted
on 12-Aug-03 01:56 PM
In the last 5 years, our Pushkar Shah has biked total of about 80,000 Kms.... (on average, 45 kms per day). Since his target is 390,000 Kms in 11 years covering 150 countries, remaining distance to be biked = 310,000 Kms in 6 years ending in 2009 Nov. To complete this, he will have to still bike 310,000/(6*365) = 140 kms each day uninterrupted from now onwards till he finishes. Now compare what he has biked so far (45 kms/day on average) with what is required (140 kms/day). It's a big big challenge ahead for him that he should take it very seriousely. Otherewise, he will be a subject of mockery. Moneys being poured by Nepalese in USA and other countries for his journey... but how much will be really required still? My concern is, there is no way that he will finish 310,000 kms in next 6 years unless a deep thinking and awakening happens in his mind. And then reduce his target. Most importantly, in his own travel diary, he hasn't fail to bash anyone who rejected to meet him or support him or help him. Therefore, Later I don't want Pushkar to come up with nefarious excuses for his failure to complete the world tour in 11 years after having completed far less than his target 390,000 kms, and then bashing/complaining against the very Nepalese around the world so many of whom have helped him so much. If he fails, it would be a great cheating by a Nepali to the whole world. He must change his game plan now... he is in a dire straits already !!!! World tour with Rs. 100 on bike is not Khyal Thatta.. however, we commend him for taking up such a undaunting challenge.. And it is evident that he can drag himself in this journey by hook or by crook.. but reaching his goals is not in the horizon. For sure he can complete 390,000 kms... perhaps visit 150 countries as well as, but for sure NOT in 11 YEARS. |
| nepali_angel | Posted
on 12-Aug-03 02:33 PM
Sankaa, "I belong to Chhetri, the pure ones , not the ones who were dropped from Bahuns " That's baloney because in Nepal there are no pure Chettris remaining. Every Chettri is mixed to some extent. If you belong to the Thakuri caste, you would still look mixed, because back in the days, Ranas owning prostitutes who belonged to one of the Janajati ethnic groups was common. Hence, there are no "pure" Chettris remaining in Nepal, although there are some that might resemble bahuns to some degree. I see you have an inferiority complex because of your mixed heritage. "You guys never fought in the history. You guys always used we chhetries. If someone died, you guys would be there fot daans, if someone borned- you guys would be there for daans. So basically you guys were raised by chhetries' daans" No, we never fought, but this is true for recent times only, because our ancestors who came to the subcontinent from Central Asia placed themselves on the top of the hierarchy by subjugation and conquest. We just found ways to circumvent our people from getting killed by opting to abuse other ethnic groups and use them through hook and crook. You could say we were the first in the subcontinent to use the divide and conquer policy so effectively. Also please remember that only 60 years ago your people would kneel and touch the feet of the venerable bahun pundit making rounds in your neck of the woods with your forehead. So where's this feeling of superiority coming from, I know not. We are on the top, chettris come second. You are mixed, and you know it. Your inferiority complex is showing since you refuse to acknowledge your mixed heritage. Show me a pure unmixed Chettri family that look like bahuns, if you are up for the game. But I doubt you ever will be able to. Chettris are mongol-compromised. This is true to some degree among certain bahuns also, but these people would be the minority. Nepalis are not pure people. We are all a melange of sorts of various people coming together. However, most bahuns are pure. "Sure, they know how to work in Vanshar, or become a chamcha of a minister or how to make commision by building a fake bridge" Yeah, and most likely the minister is himself a bahun. We have carved a little niche to forward our own political and religious agendas. Anywho, truth of the matter is I don't care much about Nepali politics. For all I care, everybody there could choke on a hairball. "mean bahuns being tallest ethnic group in Nepal" Yes, it is a fact because we are of North South Asian stock. Search for the statistics yourself over the net. You will come across many sites that concede to this. Even in my class the tallest were bahuns. Gurungs, Magars, Rais are pretty short, although stocky and robust. Bahuns are lanky. However, until bahuns hit puberty, they are shorter than their Mongol counterparts, the reason for which many of us have been bullied at least once during our pre-pubescence stage by one of the Janajati groups. Fact of the matter is, it seems like most "Mongols" don't seem to grow after grade 8 or so. "yo puta, listen, Chowkidars in India, or soldiers in the UK, have good reputations" Sure, you would know, since historically speaking Chettris, Magars, Rais and Gurungs have made good Chowkidars since they're all "belligerent", unlike us bahuns who are mostly tame and mellow, another example of biodiversity. "asshole hmm , well listen you piece of ghuu that comes from that asshole, just go look around in Kathmandu, and look at new houses build by bahuns and ask the ppl in the nieghborhood where do they work" I was asking for concrete proof, not circumstantial evidence that would have corroborated your supposition. Just because bahuns have built new houses doesn't mean they have been looting people. Of course you need proof. If it is so obvious, it wouldn't be much of a big deal to come up with proof. |
| Biswo | Posted
on 12-Aug-03 03:04 PM
I know it is such an unending topic, yet I think it is important to chip in something that I know to be true. 1.Re Whether Bahuns are culpable for today's poor state of Nepal In my opinion, yes to some extent. The different strata of castes was first created by Manu, a Brahmin. If Marx is faulted for the failure of communism, why not Manu for this inhumane caste system? Again, since Jayasthiti Malla, a Newar king, was the one to implement caste system in KTM valley, the responsibility needs to be shared. 2.Re whether Bahuns are the looters of the wealth of today's Nepal The answer is not very straight. The peek at history shows that Bahuns were at odd with different kings, and so were out of favour. It starts with Rana Bahadur Shah's decision to marry a brahmin widow Kantiwati. The only two group of people who had courage to oppose this were Brahmins and his relatives, as Brahma-Hatyaa and Gotra-Hatyaa were forbidden in those days.After the death of Kantiwati, the vindictive king had taken a lot of measures to humiliate the Brahmins, including the taking back of their properties. The immunity from state-enforced death that Brahmins enjoyed would be terminated later by king Mahendra, when supreme court sentenced Durga Nanda Jha to death in 2020. And after 2020, there is no proof that Bahuns enjoyed some privilege just because they were Bahuns. During the dark Rana regime and aftewards, the richest people were either from Rana families, or from Lhasa-businessmen. Among Lhasa businessmen, only one Bahun Divya Dev Bhatta was considered among the richest guys. In the western Nepal, however, the story is different. Hari Har Sharma owned more than 5,00,000 bighaa of land and was a famous oppressor. 3.Re Brahmins taking away opportunities Not clear about this. However, it is natural that the educated ones will be getting more opportunities. Among the major education centers in Nepal during Rana days were Bhojpur(Dinglaa)'s school founded by Balaguru Shadanan, Darbaar Highschool, and Bindhyabasini school in Pokhara. Evidently, most of them had Brahmin students. They would take lucrative posts in the post-democracy days. So will people educated in Benaras. 4. Truth in these days Currently, the truth is people not belonging to Brahmin/Chhetri/Newar(upper) are eggregiously underrepresented and the statecraft and the private sector too should be provided incentives to hire them. Otherwise, even if we don't discuss about bahunbaad here, this suspicion that Bahuns are taking away opportunities will only grow and vitiate our environment of communal harmony. Also it is very important to remember the name of some of sister organizations of Maoists that I ran into in Nepal: Sherpa Mukti Morcha, Medhesi Mukti Morcha, Tharuwan Mukti Morcha,... |
| Sadabichar | Posted
on 12-Aug-03 03:07 PM
The man who is stainless, pure, clear and free from impurities like the moon, the search for pleasure extinguished - that is what I call a brahmin |
| yOuNgBlOoDz | Posted
on 12-Aug-03 05:52 PM
i agree with ya isolated broda.. yb |
| Suna | Posted
on 13-Aug-03 06:40 AM
Friends and foes This very topic makes me cringe. Comment gardina bhanda bhandai pani...afu bhanda dherai nai intelligent, put-together maanish haru ley comment garda alik chyaa chyaaaa bhayo ra tesailey...... Proud to be bahun??? I am 50% bahun....Do I have no self-confidence, no self-worth that I have to jump on the bandwagon of a JAAT?? Regardless of whether I am bahun - 50 or non, should that glorify me?? HECK NO I am a person regardless of whether I am a bahun or a kami or a damai. I am proud of who I have become not because I was born of a bahun parent! |
| MunnaMobile | Posted
on 13-Aug-03 09:22 AM
Suna...good one.. Bravo! 50% Baun n 100% human dat makes 150% human baun. Khoi cha? How iz you? long time not atal C. A friend ofcourse |
| porcelina | Posted
on 13-Aug-03 09:56 AM
WHAT IS THIS?? A NEW FORM OF GODDAMN RACISM?? DO YOU PEOPLE HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO TALK ABOUT? TO THINK ABOUT? SO WHAT WHATEVER CASTE YOU'RE BORN INTO. CANT YOU SEE THE INTELLIGENCE OF IT ALL?? CANT YOU SIT DOWN FOR ONE MINUTE AND THINK OF THE BRAINS THAT WERE PUT INTO COMING UP WITH THE CASTE SYSTEM?? THOUSANDS OF YEARS AGO, A FEW PEOPLE SAT TOGETHER AND FORMED AN ANCIENT SYSTEM OF DIVISION OF LABOUR. BE PROUD OF THAT, INSTEAD OF SITTING AROUND AND DISCUSSING WHAT A BAD THING IT IS TO BE A BAHUN. we're all way past the stage when we need to worry about what caste we're born into. so our parents and grandparents might be picky about what castes we're married into, but do all of you people want to carry that on?? i'm sure if in 20- 30 years (when i have kids that are old enough to get married) i'm going to be way past worrying what caste they'll get married into. its time to move on, not blame everyone for everything. GET A LIFE YOU PEOPLE. |
| BMW | Posted
on 13-Aug-03 09:59 AM
my sentiments exactly porcelina and what amazes me even more are these people are so called educated and living in the USA. |
| porcelina | Posted
on 13-Aug-03 10:04 AM
thanks BMW. do these people have nothing better to do?? if this country is going to be filled with these shitty ideas of these people, then i guess we can forget slowly wiping out the caste system, which i dont think we dont have a need for anymore, since anyone can work in any field they please, instead of being limited to being business people, or priests, or whatever it is. |
| phateko_kattu | Posted
on 13-Aug-03 11:47 AM
Order Order yeh PK ki Adaalat hai !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Dear Kattus and pantys haru, All the publicpoor's a stage .And all the men and women are mere kattus .some are brand new kattus ,..others are chyaatiyeko kattus .Similarly All the worlds a stage and all the countries are mere kattus .And Our country Nepal happens to be thus-thus ganaune dhuja dhuja pareko phateko kattu .The reason we are fighting amongst ourself is solely because we are the most dirtiest ,torn ,and stinking kattus in the world .The olive branch ending is ___________No matter how much we try to updrage ourself or degrade others amongst our self ,we will still be seen as phateko ganaune kattus from outside world .So its about time we lived in peace and harmony ,work hard together and change the kattu Nepal is wearing right now .Solely changing your kattu wont change the stinking ,torn and dirty kattu Nepal is wearing .Learn to see it as a whole . I really enjoyed reading posts posted by some kattus like Biswo kattuji ,jhilke kailan kattuji .Thanks for your posts dear kattus . And I am bothered by the fight between Sankaa Kattuji and Nepali Angel Panty ji .Angel panty ji seems two-tongued . In her first posting she says she indicates she is brahmin and in her second posting she claims that she is pure chettri .whatever the cause I see no difference between Brahmin and chettri . because : 1 Both are sikute sikute ..lamboo lamboo 2 Both have hairs all over the body 3both are elite jaats 4both take ghoosh (One uses bal another uses buddhi ....apna apna style hota hai na ) This case is wasting Courtrooms valuable time as some kattus called IF kattu ji have previously mentioned .So The court is Dismissed !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| chituwa | Posted
on 13-Aug-03 01:07 PM
Bahuni Nepali Angel: I thought I'd stay out of this topic since it was on the mode of mostly Bahuns VS Chettris althought I've always thought that they are the same. But I see some you fags dragging in Matwalis in here so I'm steppin' in. How the f*ck do you call yourself the top of the foodchain? Darwin's "survival of the fittest" seems to prove otherwise. Bahuns are the weakest of all the jaats in Nepal, PHYSICALLY and that's a fact. Bahuns have twisted and manipulated the religion so they could use it to their advantage much like the other Clergies did in the Midevil-18th Century Europe and that is also a fact. People say Hinduism brought out racism, but I believe that the Bahuns brought out racism so they could benifit themselves. Because I don't think the religion is supposed to teach you that you can't touch another person from a lower caste. Bahuns introduced caste system. Nepali Angel or whatever the f*ck you like to call yourself, you must think you are pretty intelligent huh? Tell me, how did you come to the United States? Was it the Government money? Because I know tons of Bahuns living here/Canada/Australia now.. who were initially sent by the Government of Nepal to acquire some education and return back to Nepal and help our Nation.. seems like that's just another thing a bahun would do. The reason why you do not see many educated matawalis is because education was prohibited for other ethnic groups other than a Bahun, chettri and thakuri. And guess who enforced this system? King's advisors who were priests a.k.a bahuns. Bahuns feared that other ethnic groups would revolt if they were educated. Now you all up here acting like bahuns are the saints of Nepal man. You one funny girl. Even in the villages, you see bahun thaags stealing money/properties from other "sojo" people. See what I find funny is that Nepal and India are the only two places in the world where being simple minded, selfless, helpful, honest and brave is a sin and automatically branded "lata" "sidha" "sojo" if you have any of those attributesetc. The Europeans and the Americans would kill to have those attributes. Nepal is f*cked up now because of the bahun leaders we have. I have come to conclusion that 90% of the bahuns=curruption. Matawalis know how working with each other can benifit the greater community. Bahuns=selfish. Compare Dharan and Pokhara Vs two cities which are largely populated by the bahuns. Another issue raised on this board was the "lahurays". It seems like you f*cks are just jealous of all the money these people have. But the fact is, Lahurays bring in more money to the economy than tourism, import/export etc combined which is supposed to be a "good thing". However, you envious long noses make it seem that being a "lahuray" is a crime. Its honest living. At least these lahurays aint gettin' rich off of curruption money or any illegal activities. And don't bring up that "Oh I'd rather wash dishes than goto war and be on the front line cannon folder" sh*t here. Since the War began, watch how many Gurkhas (matawalis) have died compared to that of American and other British soldiers. We're made for war. PHYSICALLY, you woodies could NEVER f*ck with us and that's a given. So let's not even bring up that we being shorter and inferior sh*t. Height wont mean sh*t if you get knocked the f*ck in one punch. Man CHAUDHARIS are stronger than you f*cks. Like this dude wrote (I forgot his name) "Gurkhas (he meant rais,limbus, magars, gurungs) are the only natural born killers" or something similar on his book. Call us "latas" "murkhas" whatever, but you know you can't f*ck with us. We're the Original Warriors of this planet since Atilla to Gengis Khan to Now to for "f*ckin" ever. I'm out |
| Paani | Posted
on 13-Aug-03 01:56 PM
Read the Nepali history books my fren. Which caste benefits the most by Nepal Being a Hindu Country ? Did anyone ask THE PEOPLE if they wanted country to be a Hindu nation ? Are you sure you read them history books ? Are you sure they do not benefit from Nepal being Hindu Nation? Who runs all the religious institutions of Nepal(being a Hindu Nation) ? Not Gurungs, or Tamangs, Or Tharus, Or Newars, or Sherpas or any other Nepali Ethnic groups. I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT BURGER EATING PROBLEM. I am talking about how they systamatically tried to eradicate other religions and cultures since the Shah Family conquered Nepal. Why is it that all of these ethnic groups are on UN's endangered list of of being extinct ? Get up stand up Rasta... Stand up for your right !! I am not accusing anyone of anything. I am just asking questions..looking for answers. TALK IS CHEAP..answer to your question why didn't they do this n' that ? Well if you had lived during that time you would have found the answers right there in front of your nose. Yeah the Shah's ruled but who was making all the laws, customs, holidays..behind the curtain ? Who were the only ones educated in the Kingdom and was taking full advantage of it ? Who forbade them(other ethnic groups) to open their own language schools in the fear that they might just surpass themselves(Bahuns) ? Ma fren look across wha's out there before you jump the fence... |
| yOuNgBlOoDz | Posted
on 13-Aug-03 02:12 PM
-----PLEASE STOP THIS CRAP BOUT CASTE>>STOP ACTING LIKE KIDS.. IF U THINK BAHUNs R TO BE BLAMED.. THEN WHY DON'T U GO AND DO SUMTHING GOOD FOR NEPAL..RATHER THEN RUNNING UR MOUTH HERE.. BLAMING SUMONE ELSE.. FIRST DO SUMTHING N TELL THEY DIDN'T DO THIS.. N THEY DIDN'T DO THAT.. THATS PERHAPS IS ONE REASON WHY NEPAL IS POOR N UNDEVELOPED.. COZ PEOPLE LIKE U NEVER LET ANYONE DO NETHING GOOD FOR NEPAL.. IF BAHUN IS IN POWER.. OTHER CASTE PULLS THEIR LEG.. IF ANY OF THE OTHER CASTE IS IN POWER.. BAHUN N OTHER CASTE PEOPLE PULLS THEIR LEG.. FORGET BOUT HISTORY .. TALK BOUT THE PRESENT.. IF BAHUNS R TO BE BLAMED FOR PAST.. THEN REST OF THE CASTE R RUINING THE PRESENT AND FUTURE OF NEPAL... YOU PEOPLE R EDUCATED.. STOP THIS NONSENSE.. ---- YB |
| yOuNgBlOoDz | Posted
on 13-Aug-03 02:14 PM
PLEASE STOP THIS CRAP BOUT CASTE>>STOP ACTING LIKE KIDS.. IF U THINK BAHUNs R TO BE BLAMED.. THEN WHY DON'T U GO AND DO SUMTHING GOOD FOR NEPAL..RATHER THEN RUNNING UR MOUTH HERE.. BLAMING SUMONE ELSE.. FIRST DO SUMTHING N TELL THEY DIDN'T DO THIS.. N THEY DIDN'T DO THAT.. THATS PERHAPS IS ONE REASON WHY NEPAL IS POOR N UNDEVELOPED.. COZ PEOPLE LIKE U NEVER LET ANYONE DO NETHING GOOD FOR NEPAL.. IF BAHUN IS IN POWER.. OTHER CASTE PULLS THEIR LEG.. IF ANY OF THE OTHER CASTE IS IN POWER.. BAHUN N OTHER CASTE PEOPLE PULLS THEIR LEG.. FORGET BOUT HISTORY .. TALK BOUT THE PRESENT.. IF BAHUNS R TO BE BLAMED FOR PAST.. THEN REST OF THE CASTE R RUINING THE PRESENT AND FUTURE OF NEPAL... YOU PEOPLE R EDUCATED.. STOP THIS NONSENSE.. |
| RBaral | Posted
on 13-Aug-03 02:22 PM
Rai Limbu Gurung Magar Tamang Tharus are considered to be the aborigines of Nepal. That is true. Bahuns came to Nepal from India, to protect their tupi and janai from Moslems. They originally resided by the Karnali River, around Jumla. They grew all over Nepal over a period of time. No Chhetri came to Nepal. All Chhetris (who we come across in Nepal) are the subsequent product of Bahun who could not keep their Bahunhood and somehow protected their social status in the Name of Chhetri. Some Chhetri claiming to have a pure pedigree of 17 generations is a joke. In Nepal, it is difficult to track back to more that 13 generations of Shaha Dynasty (the King of Nepal). Nepali Bhasa (language) because spoken by Bahuns and Khas (today's Nepali Chhetris) used to be called Khas Bhasa. Truth is truth. Gurkha army recruits Rai Limbu Gurung Magar Tamang etc because of their agility, but Chhetris are not recruited, Bahuns are not recruited. When I was a little boy, it was difficult for me to admit Bahuns came from India; I preferred to belong to a lineage who originally setteled in Nepal. But, as I grew up, I learned to accept facts. Living in denial is not a very nice thing -- whoever it may be. Namaste, Rishi Baral |
| Sadabichar | Posted
on 13-Aug-03 02:36 PM
Among the Newars.. you can see people having features/complexions of many other types. You can see newars who look like indians, south-indians, mongolian, brahmin/bahun, chhetris, tharus, you name it. Long or short noses. Ever wondered why it is so? |
| nepali_angel | Posted
on 13-Aug-03 02:51 PM
This is to the ugly chinkboy with flat chest, who goes by the name of Chituwa "How the f*ck do you call yourself the top of the foodchain? Darwin's "survival of the fittest" seems to prove otherwise" To be on the top of the foodchain, various things have to occur. Intelligence and Darwin's theories of evolution might not always go hand in hand because to be successful evolutionarily. 1. You should be successful in reproducing. The more the progeny, the better. In other words, here in the states, Hispanics reproduce like crazy, and in the longrun, might replace Whites as the majority. European reproductive rate is also very low, another factor as to why immigrants are pushing the envelope. Also, it seems that the lower the population, the more intelligent the ethnic group is, because they have to fight for their survival with whatever that can be taken from the environment. Therefore, Jews are one of the most intelligent ethnic groups out there. Now in Nepal, Magars, Rais, Tharus, Gurungs, and all these short, flat-chested ugly mo fos, who look like they came straight out of horror movies are, let's just say, mentally-challenged, because they are mixed with australoids, hence not able to outcompete bahuns mentally, whose origin, although nebulous, is mostly indo-european, or, to use the not so PC word, Aryan. Their only way to "outcompete" bahuns is by reproducing like crazy. "Bahuns have twisted and manipulated the religion so they could use it to their advantage much like the other Clergies did in the Midevil-18th Century Europe and that is also a fact" Yes, we did, and I am damn proud that we are able to misuse and abuse you fuks till you guys were nothing but bags of bones. Now, you asshole, although we might be "weak" physically, which of course isn't true as I explained above, it is also true that we are the tallest of the ethnic groups in Nepal. I have met tons of handsome 6 footer bahuns, but have never met a tall Gurung or Magar or Rai. So shut the fuk up you puny diked bhoote with penchant for playing with your lil pee-pee in front of your mom! "Bahuns introduced caste system" Now there's a contradiction as regard to this. As some idiot claimed previously, if, according to the Vedas, the caste system was meant to be dynamic, and was dynamic in the past, how could there have existed bahuns, since after all, bahuns would be a direct product of unchangeability. Explain this, you puny-brained fuk. "Angel or whatever the f*ck you like to call yourself, you must think you are pretty intelligent huh? Tell me, how did you come to the United States" Yes, I am intelligent, and I am a citizen of the United States, and nepotism isn't a route one takes to get the much coveted green-card. Simply does not work if you wanna come to America. Unlike some spear chucking fag(that would be you) who wouldn't mind washing dishes, I am proud to be in a very good position financially. 'The reason why you do not see many educated matawalis is because education was prohibited for other ethnic groups other than a Bahun, chettri and thakur" How about some sources, you cannon-fodder for the Indian and British army? There is no proof of that. Stop reading Bista the jaishi bahun's inane rants if you wanna maintain your sanity, which you don't seem to have, to tell you the truth. Also, you pathetic excuse for a human being, Thakuris aren't bahuns. "Even in the villages, you see bahun thaags stealing money/properties from other "sojo" people. " Another conspiracy theory, you ass romping cok sucker. Provide proof, you asshole, because it seems like you've been pulling everything out of your scrawny anus. Bahuns usually have their own villages, and prefer not to intermingle with other ethnic groups. So, where these conspiracy theories are coming from, I know not. "Since the War began, watch how many Gurkhas (matawalis) have died compared to that of American and other British soldiers. We're made for war" Haha, and you are proud to die for Khaires, aren't you? Keep your subservience to yourself. And oh yeah, I just dropped a big load in the toilet, mind flushing it for me? Here, a golden-colored medal for you, to boost your low self-esteem. "PHYSICALLY, you woodies could NEVER f*ck with us and that's a given. So let's not even bring up that we being shorter and inferior sh*t. Height wont mean sh*t if you get knocked the f*ck in one punch" Still, you gusy are short and ugly, which aren't traits that would favor you in finding women. So shut the fuk up, you ugly bitch. |
| ptdynsty | Posted
on 13-Aug-03 03:51 PM
F_ long nosed B_ es used and still use the hospitality of original Nepalese to oppress them. We should have aaaaanold (terminated) these M_F when Muslims drove them from India. Admit or not the horizon is indicating that&&&& And about the theory that Bahuns are more intelligent, that is full of shit. The only reason where they are today is because they had 100 years head start compared to other groups. For example, if you have 100-meter race and one person is blindfolded and the other one is not, guess who will win that race! Also, the term Gorkhali is famous around the world cause of lauhres. A quick fact, that in the history of U.K. 9 Victoria Crosses have been awarded and out of 9; 7 or 8 were to Lauhres. So, please all u bahuns stop misusing the word Gorkhali ko choro. U guys are freakin ghoos khane is choro. I already see many replies so bring it on... Chituwa bro, I agree with you 100 percent. |
| ptdynsty | Posted
on 13-Aug-03 03:57 PM
This bitch hells angel has no say cause she is a traitor. she is not even a freaking nepali. So, Banish away to Hell 4eva. |
| Rastafariya | Posted
on 13-Aug-03 03:57 PM
Birader American Angel! Why them you is so angry? You is American Birader and you is speak like them American too. Why is you so so Angry? You is become like them American peopal Just short tempar and them wants instant karma. Like him Bush Peopal You is become so American and you is show only your side. That not good Birader Angel! You is only keep talkin about them WMD all them time. You is not call them poor peopal ugly birader Angel. Them Ugly peopal takin the world inch by inch. Just looka how them America and them World used to Call them China Ugly stupida peopal just 20 years ago. Now I is think you is youself can not live without them Ugly China. How them tall intelligence Peopal after them 2nd world war use to call them Japanese Barbarians Uncultured peopal? Now them took da world. So I would be little careful birader Angel. Them You is would not want him Chyangba kickin your kids butt in 20 years when them you is gets old. |
| ptdynsty | Posted
on 13-Aug-03 04:24 PM
Reading carefullly, I realized that this hells angel is actually a fag bahun. I wish I could meet you in person say what u got to say and I will say my part and we will get to the truth regarding survival of the fittest. Also, U know why so called nepali leaders don't have vision for the country? A. Their nose gets in their way. |
| BMW | Posted
on 13-Aug-03 07:27 PM
Nepali angel, my my my such hateful thoughts coming from someone who calls herself an angel, that's great that your'e a baun who's successful and is an american citizen but must you have said this "Yes, we did, and I am damn proud that we are able to misuse and abuse you fuks till you guys were nothing but bags of bones. " It's hard for me to beleive you're a girl and you call yourself an angel, damn. why so much hate, and did you say you're educated? hmm could've fooled me miss american. |
| Rastafariya | Posted
on 13-Aug-03 07:50 PM
Birader BMW why them you is complainin? Them Angel is them very educasion cultured peopal like them Pundits and them Ministers. Them know everythin. Them peopal is proud peopal that them have all them educasion and them know tiriks and complicasion political things to misuse and abuse peopal. Birader BMW as a Nepali you is needs to be Proud peopal. Because we is can proudly say that them intelligence peopal like Angels is we have lots in Nepal. No other country have them type of peopal. I is very proud of Peopal like Angel and her biraders and Sisters. I is tell my friends from other country and ask they you have them this types of educasion peopal in your country? No them not have it. Them not have smart educasion caste peopal in their country. |
| BMW | Posted
on 13-Aug-03 08:00 PM
And it looks like someone has succeeded in exploding nepali angel's head b/c i thought earlier she was doing all she can to defend her beloved bahuns and now she's say she's proud of what they did , bravo! Rasta, you is very funny man, i is very proud of you. I am only immitating cuz i like your style. |
| phateko_kattu | Posted
on 13-Aug-03 10:30 PM
Although this case was closed .Its getting interesting . So i give permission to re-open this case .Nepali Angel can say whatever in her defense .I give you full permission to use bad words too . Your temperamental bad words are exciting :o) ptdynsty ji . You are fact about Gurkhas winning 7,or 8 Victoria crosses is factualy incorrect .Just for your information the followings are the names of Nepalese gurkhas who won Victoria crosses . 01. Kulbir Thapa Magar 02. Karan Bahadur Rana Magar 03. Lal Bahadur Thapa Magar 04. Gaje Ghale 05. Ganju Lama 06. Tul Bahadur Pun Magar 07. Netra Bahadur Thapa Magar 08. Agan Singh Rai 09. Sher Bahadur Thapa Magar 10. Thaman Gurung 11. Bhanu Bhakta Gurung 12. Lachhiman Gurung 13. Ram Bahadur Limbu Continue your discussions .Its good to know what Aryans think about Mongolians and vice -versa |
| momocha1 | Posted
on 13-Aug-03 10:57 PM
aashhhkuss me aassshkuuss me mongolians brosss... let me talk to our bahun bro for a while... thanks R BAral, you said: They grew all over Nepal over a period of time. No Chhetri came to Nepal. All Chhetris (who we come across in Nepal) are the subsequent product of Bahun who could not keep their Bahunhood and somehow protected their social status in the Name of Chhetri. Some Chhetri claiming to have a pure pedigree of 17 generations is a joke ----> And who told you all this. Your bahun ansistors from heaven came to your dream and you got enlightened? or, did you and other tuppi bahuns in a momo pasal just make up a new puran to insult chhetries? What gives you enough rights to bash on chhetries, you pompus-fool. You not only sound filthy racist but you also sound a stupid and you're just trying to play that bahun bahun game in here. Yes, you smell like a bahun in here, and we all don't like it. Listen, Do you have proof to all those bullshit you said up there. Do you have doccuments to back that up or is it proven by historians? If not, shut the hell up bajeee.You prick is basing everything on that piece of sytt that you written by some bista jaisee. have you done enough research bahun to tell that we all dropped from you cowards? if you have, then post the evidences, doccuments, here or refer the book where it says so. Cite them punk. See, how nice chhetries are. This is just another example, one of the many differences between bahuns and chhetries. While bahuns talk all kinds of sytt and talk and talk , chhetries just stay there and listen them pricks. However, there are lots of chhetries who can't be fooled by your old bahun-bahun game. So R Baral, quit insulting chhetries. As far as tracing back 17 generations go. Good for that bro who could do that. If you can't do that then it's your prob. Don't bring that insecurity and bash more on our chhetries bros. peace out bahun bye.... |
| Shriman_Atlantan | Posted
on 13-Aug-03 10:58 PM
Angel is an intresting character, I kinda like her attitude. BTW Jaisi bahuns are hot and intelligent bahuns, ask for my pic if you want the proof .... ;-) |
| rendra wasito | Posted
on 13-Aug-03 11:25 PM
Have you all seen and been with dick a lick Nanga Bahun named Ass Toss Diwari. His VISHMA PITAMA was the NAGA BAJE BABA and he was born from a VIRGIN MATA. That is the message from TAHA...................................................... and that is the basic story of a MAHA Baje. |
| Shriman_Atlantan | Posted
on 13-Aug-03 11:49 PM
Brahmand(brahmin, bahun) are mixed aryans, aryans rule the entire world, brahmand own 30% of silicon valley today, and y'all are wondering why we rule nepal and india ??? common now, gimme a freakin break !! |
| chituwa | Posted
on 14-Aug-03 02:34 AM
Nepali Angel, looks like you just fell for my bait. I EXPOSED you of your true RACIST self. Nothin' else to add to it though I have to make a few things clearer to you. Seems like you do not like to read Facts.. I've decided to give you what you dont like.. FACTS. So Peep it: You said: "Now in Nepal, Magars, Rais, Tharus, Gurungs, and all these short, flat-chested ugly mo fos" ^^ It's true that we are "flat chested", however I did not know that Bahun Males grew breasts.. Guess its Hairy too huh? "Hairy-Manly- Breasts".. got a nice ring to it, dont you think? And what is with your repeated usage of the term "UGLY" in here? I don't recall you seeing me in my physical form. You gotta cut down on your regular download of "monkey porn" girl. That sh*t got you f*cked up in the head. You said: "Now, you asshole, although we might be "weak" physically" ^^ Calm down girl. I agree with you 100 % here. You said: "....if, according to the Vedas" ^^ Now stop here! I ain't Hindu so I wouldnt know sh*t 'bout no Vedas. However I do know that Bahuns manipulated the religion so they could work for their benefit. Proof--> Historical Evidence. If you don't know what happened in the past. I suggest you go pick up that flabby ass of yours and do some research. C'mon now girl. You spend so much time sitting on the net watching "monkey porn" you starting to grow facial hairs (another Bahun trademark) You said: "Yes, I am intelligent, and I am a citizen of the United States, and nepotism isn't a route one takes to get the much coveted green-card. Simply does not work if you wanna come to America. Unlike some spear chucking fag(that would be you) who wouldn't mind washing dishes, I am proud to be in a very good position financially. " ^^ WOW! You want a cookie for it? What's up with the self-flattery? HAHA yes I do wash dishes for dough.. since you are in "very good position financially" care to spare me some change? You silly hoe, my pops spent Nepali Rs. 40 lakh to send me here. And yes he is a Lahuray. You said: "Thakuris aren't bahuns" ^^ Show me where I stated that Thakuris are bahuns and then I may let you have my used-Razor blade to shave off that facial hair of yours. And YES Bahuns DO steal money off innocent villagers. I know this because I've seen that happen with my own two eyes. You said: "And oh yeah, I just dropped a big load in the toilet" ^^ I'll pretend like I didn't read that. But seriously... You should go easy on the Beans girl.. I'm having to have to wear a mask while responding to this. NOT GOOD. And please.. Next time.. Do flush. You said: "Still, you gusy are short and ugly, which aren't traits that would favor you in finding women. So shut the fuk up, you ugly bitch. " ^^ Ahh yes.. and you would know. That must be the reason why your ass is in Sajha.com disrespecting others to mask that REJECTED girl inside of you. To make yourself fell better about yourself. HAHA And yes I am short and ugly.. VERY. But I still manage to bag more chicks than an Egg Farmer. I wonder why. Enlighten me here Ms. Pujari. Aint you supposed to be in some temple washing your Janais and plucking "JUMRAS" out your TUPPI?? You got a lot of explaning to do here young lady. Initially, I thought I would lay down some seriousness onto this topic here.. but I thought I'd just clown a Clown (you). You claim to be very Educated.. but your behaviour seems to conflit your statement. But, I will take your word for it. You and your Bahun Pride is just inshane.. so Inshane that it blinds you to see the truth. Do some research little girl, you might find something about yourself. I may not be very educated (High School Drop-out) but I do know what's going on in Nepal. So I am just sharing my opinions.. nuthin wrong with that. You write sh*t about matawalis as if you know them all personally. Have you seen what they do when they are serving the British or even Indian Army? Case closed. If you don't know sh*t, why do you have to open that mustache ring'ed mouth of yours? Gurkhas=Elite fighting force for both British and Indian Army. They do not guard gates like your father or grand father does. And they are major asset to Nepal's economy. Lastly, your fetish for the term "UGLY" for someone who you dislike is funny to me. Usually it is the "not-so-attractive" ones who where teased all the way through their infant-hood to adolecence years that use the word "UGLY" to others. They do that to hide their inferiority complexion. Does that theory apply to you also? Were you tormented all the way through your college years? If you want to prove me wrong, post up your picture in here. That's a challenge to the " Brave Bahuni" who goes by the name of Nepali Angel. Out |
| chituwa | Posted
on 14-Aug-03 02:37 AM
Nepali Angel: PS: After you drop a "big load in the toilet", I suggest you use toilet papers.. because I can see brown crusts around your ass-cheeks girl. That's Nasty! Late |
| rbaral | Posted
on 14-Aug-03 05:43 AM
Momocha1: Don't sway the topic. I have not corroburated facts in what I have written. Everything what I have written is a documented fact. Ask yourself or ask someone who knows. Or go to nearest public library. Regarding Chhetris are strong and brave physically. Bahuns are not recruited in the Gurkha because they don't try to. Chhetris are not recruited in the Brithis Gurkha, despite their desperate attempt, because they are rejected. Chhetris' presence in the military is limited to Nepal's army, where nepotism is in its full swing. Consider this fact -- a Chhetri dominated Nepali Military and Bahun dominated Nepali Government Administration. Where do you find more of a nepotism? How many Janjatis represent Nepal Army? Compared to how many in Nepali Government job? I am not a Chhetri basher. Please bring in some solid proof or documentation, I am more than willing to accept. Please allow me to repeat what I have written. **Don't live in denial**. To make another note, I have not used any vulgar word or socially unacceptable expression to describe what I am describing. Please maintain your composure to make your point across. You have believed that you are stronger of a breed rignt? And pure too. If you have so much against Bahuns, what do you have about other Janjatis? I would like to request you to go to Kathmandu Nagarpalika Ko Karyalaya (now Kathmandu Metropolitan Office) and dig over Registrar's file (Panjikadhikari ko Karyalaya). You will find SEVERAL bahuns marrying a Newar or Gurung or Tamang girls. How many Chhetris have done that? Only a handful. This is one proof of how insecure Chhetris are. Chhetri braves are limited to Nepali territory, where Ranas ruled (Ranas-the pseudo Thakuris - remember how much of an unaccepted caste a Chhetri was to a Thakuri? -- Janga Bahadur Kunwar had to endorse his caste with a Lalmohar to marry a Thakuri girl). Once you cross the border of Nepal, Chhetris have trouble being recruited in the Brithsh or Indian Gurkha. Was it Bahun who did not allow Chhetris in the British army? Come on. Please don't be insecure because of your lineage. A human being ultimately belongs to the same race. Chhetri brothers are just the not-too-distant descendants of Bahuns. Expressing a scorn to a caste belonging to your ancestors does not make you superior. Bahun is a caste your forefathers have longed dearly to keep and failed to maintain. But, this does not make a Chhetri inferior racially. This is only to counteract a Chettri claim - from lineage point of view. And, do not think a Chhetri is a *Pure* cast as you have mentioned originally and you have been intentionally and persistently trying to sideline. There is no Bahun attitude and Chhetri attitude -- especially when it comes between Bahun and Chhetri. Yes, when it comes to other janajati groups, Chhetris are too narrow to accept and welcome others because of their insecure lineage. Have you been to Nepali villages? Have you attended a marriage ceremony in Eastern or Mid-Western Nepal? Have you read Dor Bahadur Bista's Sabai Jaat.ko PhoolBaari? Do you know Chhetris are not accepted in the British Gurkha? Do you know Chhetris are not accepted in the Indian Gurkha? Do you know Chhetris are limited to Nepali Army (physically demanding position)? Do you know Nepali Army is an organization where Nepotism is in its max? And, last but not the least, how many nick-names has Bahun got as opposed to Chhetris? Is this because Chhetri was so nice noone cared to give a bad name? How many good (Nepali) football players are Chhetris? When it comes to British Gurkha, Chhetri brothers will chaim that they have buddhi (brain) and not recurited. When it comes to PSC (highly competitive public service administration of Nepal), Chhetris are underrepresented because they belong to that Stronger class? Where do you belong? Namaste and Regards. Rishi Baral |
| ptdynsty | Posted
on 14-Aug-03 08:14 AM
People, bros and sis, I got nothing against bahuns except when they call themselves Aryans instead of fellow Nepali cause I hate all the white supremacist groups. I got this whole theory of why bahuns call themselves Aryans but thats for next chapter. But, if Bahuns keeps on acting arrogant with being so called Aryan then the next logical and practical thing to do is throw them in front of KKK and skin-heads and we will find out who the real Aryans are. The kooyerais can claim they are true Aryans cause they have long history of documented facts than Bahuns whose facts are mostly recent and that was even passed on orally. As a proud Nepali, it is useless to argue among our selves. We got to worry about more important things than this. We need to unite and fight of the dhoti oppression and influence. But, first we need to clean up our own backyard. Nepal need to have its own vision of what it wants to be in the world and the people running the country should implement it with Nepali pride. The leaders should display true leadership by standing up to other countries; and if it comes to blood then they should be ready spill it and the rest will follow. The only reason there has been this bahun bashing is cause most (majority) of the good and intelligent bahuns are watching from the sideline while few corrupt bahuns are selling our country inside out. In Nepal, everyone know that Bahuns to do the pooja. Well the same goes with running the government. Since they are the majority in the government nobody would have problem with them if they did a good job of running the country and making the fellow Nepalese proud of their country. Nobody would care how much ghoosh they take as long as they are serving the citizens of the country. So, my point is do a good job and they will come to you with open arms and will even sacrifice their lives for you. If not, then we got the f_moaist, but more serious organizations are in the horizon. Thats my word |
| BMW | Posted
on 14-Aug-03 08:47 AM
" Another conspiracy theory, you ass romping cok sucker. Provide proof, you asshole, because it seems like you've been pulling everything out of your scrawny anus. Bahuns usually have their own villages, and prefer not to intermingle with other ethnic groups. So, where these conspiracy theories are coming from, I know not." nepali angel, you do not know b/c you are an american citizen living in the US of A, why not give respect to someone who's seen it and experienced it unlike you my dear friend. Maybe in your village the bahuns decided to stay away from others , another example of discriminating and thinking they're on top, but trust me there are plenty of villages where bahuns are mingling with non bahun nepelese. Actually it's funny, times have changed in Nepal, there are less racism. the people who are all racist are people like nepali angel from 1940s or whenever she was born now residing in the USA |
| marich | Posted
on 14-Aug-03 08:48 AM
By going through this thread I did not gain anything that i could be proud to know and show off at times when needed. However, it would be a lie if i denied the noticeable increment of words and their meanings added to my vocabulary, like rivulets merging into a river hither and thither. But it is so so so sad that now we have found nothing but something nonsensical, absurd and offending topic to discuss that is so disagreeable, and to see all these well educated people bashing and crashing and lashing and thrashing at each other. why can't we "get together and feel alright". may be we need some pot-heads and more rastafarians here to show us what it is meant by " One love , One heart, One and all Nepali". wakka byakka pyakka thaykka ghaccyakka thacchyakka |
| BMW | Posted
on 14-Aug-03 08:59 AM
Marich you're right!, chituwa bro save your energy, maybe nepali angel is going through PMS or a heartbreak or anything so she had to come here and release some of her tensions and display her true colors. let's all go for lunch now shall we? have a good day. |
| BMW | Posted
on 14-Aug-03 09:10 AM
"Haha, and you are proud to die for Khaires, aren't you? Keep your subservience to yourself" nepali angel, you're laughing @ them b/c they died for khaires but yet you're all proud you're an american citizen, seems to me you want to be a khaire. |
| Master_Of_One_Liners | Posted
on 14-Aug-03 11:57 AM
People who use "we" to refer to their caste instead of their nationality are pathetic. |
| phateko_kattu | Posted
on 14-Aug-03 12:09 PM
01. Kulbir Thapa Magar 02. Karan Bahadur Rana Magar 03. Lal Bahadur Thapa Magar 04. Gaje Ghale 05. Ganju Lama 06. Tul Bahadur Pun Magar 07. Netra Bahadur Thapa Magar 08. Agan Singh Rai 09. Sher Bahadur Thapa (chettri) 10. Thaman Gurung 11. Bhanu Bhakta Gurung 12. Lachhiman Gurung 13. Ram Bahadur Limbu Source => http://www.himal.hotlinks.co.uk/vc.htm I mistyped before so I am correcting the VC winners .No 9 is corrected here .Sher Bahadur Thapa (chettri) won Vc for his bravery in Italy . SO Rishi Baral ji , you are indeed factually incorrect when you say Chettris are not allowed in British Gurkhas .If not then how did Sher Bahadur Chettri Thapa won Victoria cross for his bravery ?hoinata ? Although majority of British Gurkhas are Gurung ,Magar ,rai ,limbu and Tamangs ,I have seen few Newar gurkhas too .Best example to support my claim is Dhiren Shakya .One of the hottest Nepali Actor Dhiren shakya was a former British Gurkha army .Did you all know that ? Again eyebrows will be raised if I say I have met Brahmins in British gurkha Army earning dollars and pounds .How ? some Brahmins are officially hired by British Gurkha Army for Puja Paath for hindu gurkhas .they get to take whole family and everything is paid by British .Now who is benefitting from this flat chested, short chink gurkhas who work as a cannon fodder ?againt its brahmin . Again as a Judge my verdict should be Balanced .This thread is ongoing bashing bahuns solely because they are accused of taking ghoosssh.But can someone vouch that gurkhas dont take ghoossh at all ?Now New Recruitment of british gurkhas will be held within 2 months and thousands will be competing for mere few hundred places .This is dashian for gallawallas and ARO's(Area Recruiting Officers )and there will be lots of ghooshkhoris going on in Pokhara british camp.Now chituwa pydynasty,BMW etc dont try to get on my back .Reality is the kick in the face ...have patience to face it .I am just telling what is true . please dont use bad words to me .I have a heart problem and may get heart attack :o) Fairest Judge in the whole god damn world uhi Phateko Kattu |
| momocha1 | Posted
on 14-Aug-03 01:33 PM
R Baral, Your recent post is biased, very offending towards chhetries and a racist-personal opinion. Anyone who has little brain of his own, can tell that you are very racist towards chhetries and you would like to dominate them with your coorked bahun tricks, although you calm not to be a Chhetri basher. First of all, your calim that Chhetries did not make it to British Gorkha Army, goes down the toilet when there is Sher Bahadur Thapa(chhetri) in the list of VC holders. Listen R Baral, the chances of your little bhaun soul on barking on chhetries would be very very slim if Chhetri kings and Chherties warriors had not saved you pricks from other races. However, I do not blame on you for basing on us; to be selfish and croocked are the one of the very many qualities that majoroty of bahuns inherit. You said: Dont sway the topic. I have not corroburated facts in what I have written. Everything what I have written is a documented fact. Ask yourself or ask someone who knows. Or go to nearest public library." ---> I asked you for solid poofs if you were going to make points like you had done surveys, and valid researches. You claim things like you are' Param Brahma' and know everything, but more i read your posts more i am getting convienced that you are nothing but just another racist bahun who like to supress Chhetries. ha ha , look what you are doing here; playing bahun-bahun games with me. I know, where to go to do research. And i know whome to ask, my question is have you been there and done good research, If you have, please cite the sources in here. I would have no problem to accept the truth, just make sure the article is not written by one of you bahuns from the Past or present , or a jaisee. Bahuns were not recruted in British Army cuz they didn't try to? --> hmmm ha ha , silly, Bahuns did not try to cuz they knew they were not going to get accepted. For example, you are not going to try to be the president of the United States , cuz you can not be the President of the United states. Makes sense? you said; "Chhetris' presence in the military is limited to Nepal's army, where nepotism is in its full swing. Consider this fact -- a Chhetri dominated Nepali Military and Bahun dominated Nepali Government Administration. Where do you find more of a nepotism? " ---> Baral, I've seen lots of Gurungs, Magars and Matawalis brothers in Nepali Army, in higher posts too. Do you want proof, I can cite the sources, if you want me to. I haven't seen very many Bahuns though. I think, it is either cuz you guys did not try or do not want to, other than the fact that there is a belief that bahuns are cowards.However, let's not talk about the cowardness of bahuns becuase that would be your style ; basing with out any proof. And, anyway, why go in Army and make around Rs1700 a month and die when you can build big big house and drive pajeros when you go politics for most bahuns. you said: "I would like to request you to go to Kathmandu Nagarpalika Ko Karyalaya (now Kathmandu Metropolitan Office) and dig over Registrar's file (Panjikadhikari ko Karyalaya). You will find SEVERAL bahuns marrying a Newar or Gurung or Tamang girls. How many Chhetris have done that? Only a handful" I say, bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbuuuuuuullllll ssssssssssshiiiiittttt. Did you go to kathmandu Nagapalika ko Karayalaya ( now kath metropolitan Office) and dig over Registar's file to make this claim? Tsk Tsk, don't play that bahun game on me, ok. Come on , enough of this bsing from you in here. I do not have solid proof to deny that bahuns have not married lots of matawalis and other casts, but I have lived in Nepal for 20 yrs of my life and I would say from my personal experience that I never saw any bahun marrying any matawalis or even chhetries. you said (bs) " Chhetri braves are limited to Nepali territory, where Ranas ruled (Ranas-the pseudo Thakuris - remember how much of an unaccepted caste a Chhetri was to a Thakuri? -- Janga Bahadur Kunwar had to endorse his caste with a Lalmohar to marry a Thakuri girl). Once you cross the border of Nepal, Chhetris have trouble being recruited in the Brithsh or Indian Gurkha. Was it Bahun who did not allow Chhetris in the British army? Come on." well, 'Sher Bahadur Thapa(chhetri)', do i have to say more? You are digging stuff from more than hundred years ago to make your arrogant claim, with out any conviencing proof. If Jung did that in the past then he did it. If we chhetries had our own preferences in marrying between thakuries and other chhetries then we had it, why is it your problem now in year 2003, and you are not even a chherty. Also, i personally and my other pure chhetri relatives have lots of Thakuris , Ranas , Shahs relatives in our family, so i am not going to take this claim from you and throw this one with others in the toilet. myannn , your each and every line is total bull crap. I would grow old and die here if i keep making comments line by line. WEll, since i don't have time like that , i will go now. But yeah, let me tell yo u something, you are SILLY. ps: Next time a bajee comes to my house , i will let my dog loose ;) byeeee |
| momocha1 | Posted
on 14-Aug-03 02:08 PM
More fun.. question answer sessionnnn .. ..hhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Have you been to Nepali villages? Have you attended a marriage ceremony in Eastern or Mid-Western Nepal? And: yes, i have. In chhetry marriages there are more chhetries and meat and other even Rakshis. IN Bahun marriages there are sale roties and more bahuns and more people with sharp noses and stooped body. Also, the Cheetry marriages ceromony is totally different, and It is said by bahuns back home. Have you read Dor Bahadur Bista's Sabai Jaat.ko PhoolBaari? --> No i haven't. I don't want to either. It seems like you became racist and chhetri basing bahun from that book. I would not like to corrupt my mind. If a chhetry(pure) would recommend me that book then I would. Do you know Chhetris are not accepted in the British Gurkha? ---> Please look at the source => http://www.himal.hotlinks.co.uk/vc.htm Can you see the name ' Sher Bahadur Thapa (Chhetri).' In the begenning British ppl were impressed by the Gorkha Amry( army of Nepali king not British gorkha) where there were matawalis and chhetries, and that is why they started hiring people from Nepal. However, bauns politics to pollute chhetries, which in other words the process of bahun-drop chhetries made british confused and they started becoming skeptical about chhetries too; one of the many examples of drawbacks for chherties being close to bahuns and becoming close viticms. Do you know Chhetris are not accepted in the Indian Gurkha? --> Bull Shit. They are accepted in Indian Gurkha. Do you know Chhetris are limited to Nepali Army (physically demanding position)? Limited in what sense. Most chhetries join Nepal Army but that doesn't explain that they are limited. Bajee, why are yo uso racist towards chhetries? Do you know Nepali Army is an organization where Nepotism is in its max? --> I wouldn't call it a total Nepotism. I would call it the circumstances according the culture and old old Nepali tradiation. There are lots of matawalis in Nepal army too. Bahuns don't fit in rayyy, cuz they are coward rayyyy, most other castes say that in Nepal. Also, for matawalis bros, first choice is to British Army, then Indian and then Royal. Lucky them that they stayed from crookedness of Bahuns in the history. Hamilayee, ta bahun drop chhetri process garay ra you bahuns are trying to pollute. And, last but not the least, how many nick-names has Bahun got as opposed to Chhetris? --> what? what are you talking about? what nick names? what are you trying to ask here? i dont care, you guys must have lots of nick names. whatelse you guys did besides making nick names and making our lives harder with your crooked-twisted relegious stuff in the past. You can have as many nick names as you want. Is this because Chhetri was so nice noone cared to give a bad name? -->Yes, that could be true. You are not that stupid as you seem to be. How many good (Nepali) football players are Chhetris --> how many good (Nepali) boxers are bahuns?, how many good badminton players are bahuns?, how many good swimmers are bahuns? howmany, volleyball, racketball, karate, table tennis, long tennis players bahuns? Why are you asking me such a stupid question. what are you trying to prove? that bahuns are good football players? i don't care, i do not give a damn. Geese bajay.. from Mahabharat to parashuram to Nepal army to British army to Indian army to Bahun drop chhetries to Prithivi Narayan shah to marriage of Jung bahadur Kuwar and aaaaaaaaaaaaaallll the way to football. I wonder, where would our next destination would going to be. Maybe brahmanda? universe, solar system, Mars? geese, you're one hell of a typical bahun, you know that? love to you anyways, since you're a Nepali. byeeee. |
| momocha1 | Posted
on 14-Aug-03 02:42 PM
B Baral, I was just surfing the web and saw this : On 1 November 1814, British-India declared war on Nepal. The warfare and courage of the Nepali soldiers so impressed the British Army officers that they began to enlist them onto their side. Thus the legend of the Gurkhas was born. Source : http://www.himal.hotlinks.co.uk/brave.htm T hought you would be intersted to read this since you suggesting that we chhetries are cowards too and we should join the club with bahuns. Sir, I do not believe at those brave Nepali armies, who impressed British were bahuns or matawalees brothers only at that time. I do belive that there were lots of us not all us chheties in that Paltan. So this makes more sense why chhetries were initially accepted in the British Amry but later they(british) became skeptial, most probably because of the Bahun Drop Chhetry process. In other words, a crooked policits of Bahuns on pure chhetries to pollute the Chhetry gene pool made us victim. With this I shall let you go now... have a nice day.. and try not to be racist... best regards, Himal Shamsher Thapa (or everyone's even bahuns' fav - momocha ;) ) |
| Rastafariya | Posted
on 14-Aug-03 09:45 PM
Him Birader Nepali Angel gone now! Him now no mo Nepali Angel. Him is now American Angel. Them they is call Hells Angels. Now him Nepali Angel is riding them bike with them Leather Jakets and them Red Bandana. Him no more like them Daura Suruwal and them Kusumey roomal. Him needs them Tattoo and them Big wide Leather Belt. Him no more needs Birkhey Topi and them iskot. Him Birader American Angel Gone! Him bye bye! |
| jainepal | Posted
on 15-Aug-03 02:35 AM
Oh come on!!! I was appalled and grief-struck when I read through this messages. The underlying notion that one race is better than another is simply egregious. The words that you guys are volleying back and forth undermine the very thing that makes our country, and our people unique - UNITY. It doesn't matter if you're bahun, rai, or limbu, we are all Nepali and Nepali we will always be. Obviously today there are many problems that are rooted in a flawed social and cultural system. The caste system is just one example of this, but my mentality has always been that an educated person should be able understand the fundamental flaws in this social structure...especially people like you guys! I saw that many people were using the Indian and British recruitment as evidence to substantiate racist stands. I don't see how that would matter, they are recruitedto represent another country on a battle field. The important thing is that every ethnic and caste group was represented in Prithivi Narayan Shah's army. The army that created Nepal today. Thirdly, I just wanted to point out that the ethnic tensions that you guys are creating will only make our country weaker. Indians can easily lay stake to our country when Nepalis are fighting against eachother. I think we should divert our anger and resentment towards neighboring countries who have sucked the life out of our country. perfect example would be the Indians! Jai Nepal! Jai Nepali! Nepali 4 Nepali |
| jainepal | Posted
on 15-Aug-03 02:36 AM
(I type "this" instead of "these"...whoops, sorry) |
| nepali_angel | Posted
on 15-Aug-03 03:24 AM
I am not gone, of course. I am just enjoying people getting riled up at me. Hehehe. Man, this is funny. |
| BMW | Posted
on 15-Aug-03 04:46 AM
of course you're loving it NEPALI ANGEL, cuz this is the only time you'll ever get any males talking to you but enjoy in the meantime. |
| RBaral | Posted
on 15-Aug-03 04:54 AM
With all respect to everybody, I would like to express my gratitude to everyone who has volunteered their thoughts and opinions onto this thread. From the very beginning, my stance has been that no caste is superior to another. That is where I stand. It doesn't benefit by saying that "Those people tried to prove otherwise" when I run out of a logic, strong proof, or reasoning. If I had to believe Himal Shamsher Thapa, Bahun is a very influential caste who can manipulate Indian and British policy (RE: WHO would be recruited in the Gurkhas) . They (Bahuns) have the ability to influence British. On a logical end it would support Bahun superiority, but I won't fell on that trick. Sorry. I would love to believe that and crave to belong to that caste, if ever a caste would be superior to other. But I believe otherwise. And please, where have mentioned a Chhetri a coward caste? I would never think so. Don't speak your mind, may it be intentional or spontaneous. Namaste. Rishi I would like to put a halt from my side on this thread -- unless I am compelled vehemently. I think I had already mentioned facts I knew -- and Himal Shamsher Thapa, knowingly or unknowingly, has strengthened my stance. Lastly, I would like to paraphrase Himal Shamsher Thapa [they(british) became skeptial, most probably because of the Bahun Drop Chhetry process.] |
| porcelina | Posted
on 15-Aug-03 07:10 AM
god, what a pathetic site. do you people have nothing better to do?? why dont you guys come up with ideas on how to DEVLOP this nation instead of polluting your heads with these abominable thought. what next??? all the different castes wanting their own independant countries?? a mora baajuya haaru, 'nepal char jaat chhattis barnaa ko phoolbari ho' bhaanya suneko chhaina ki kya ho?? yo phoolbari lai kinaa mashnaa khojyaa timi haru le?? |
| porcelina | Posted
on 15-Aug-03 07:33 AM
i meant what a pathetic thread.. the site's fine! |
| phateko_kattu | Posted
on 15-Aug-03 11:46 AM
I got the link which stated that a chettri got VC for his bravery .Tehi point liyera Momocha ji ley Rishi baral ji lai pelna samma pelnu bho ...tara khoi malai dhanyabaad dinu bha ko ?Chettir haru selfish hunchan ki kasho ?:D {in jest } So guys we had had enough of discussion so as to why brahmins were not allowed in British gurkha army . I have a story told by my friend long long time ago .I hope it does not offend anyone . WHY BRAHMINS ARE NOT ALLOWED IN BRITISH GURKHA ARMY . After the war in 1814 . British got very impressed with the fighting skills of nepali haru rey . Ani them British wanted to hire Nepali as thier soldier rey .Ani British colonel ley sabai nepali haru ....brahmin ,chettri ,gurung ,magar ,rai limbu ,kami ,damai ,tamang ,sherpa everyone lai bolayecha a -rey .Ani Tyo British Colonel ley Sabai Nepali haru lai bhanecha " Hey nepali haru timiharu sabai jau ra tyo Nagarjun Pahad (Hill) lai push garera dhaalideu .Jas-jasle dhaalna sakcha teslai aajai dekhi british gurkha ma bharti garnechu ".Sabai jaat kattu kasera tyo pahaad lai dhalna daudecha rey ..tara bahun haru matra chuppa lagera basecha a-rey .Tyo British Colonel pheri ayera sodhecha rey Bahun haru lai ,"Hey bahun haru timiharu kina nagayeko huh ?".Bahun haru ley bhanechan "Pahaad lai pani kahin dhakelera dhaalna sakincha ra hazoor ? British Colonel ley man manai gungunayecha ~~~"Oho yo mora bahun haru ko ta buddhi raicha ,yesta lai army ma linu hunna "~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Ho tehi din dekhi Bahun lai British army baata Prabesh Nishedh bhayeko thiyo A-rey !! Please dont use bad words . I have a heart problem Uhi judge PK |
| marich | Posted
on 15-Aug-03 12:17 PM
kattu matrai phatya judge parecha yo ta..aru ta sabai sadde nai cha ni..hahahaha..Judge haru jastti sabai yesto bhe kya mrityu dandapaune kaidile pani yekchoti hasera, yesto mutu kamjor bha judge ko phatya kattubata niskya dhuwa sunghdai marna pauthyo ni..kina testo nabha hola.. hahahahaha .. ( In Jest) rakhnu parch kya.. |
| terimabajiya | Posted
on 15-Aug-03 02:30 PM
hello everybody... i don't discriminate against anything.. but i've got a joke to share with you all... eka desh ma.... euta bahun beha party ma gayecha. khanu samma khayecha ani ghar ayera budi sanga ko gaff: Bahun- haina budi, kasto bhabya party... poleko masu khane ki, battareko masu khane ki, sadheko masu khane ki, dahi, julebi, kheer khane ki.... aiya aiya... dherai khayera hallinai bhachaina. Budi- aafno jiu lai nai sasti huna gari kina khako hola? baru dui wata aunla ghusarera banta garnu ta. Bahun- terima khwasa... dui wata aunla ghusarna sakne bhaye ta aarko khera khaihalthye ni. yeah, this is the part where everyone laughs... shanti shanti... |
| momocha1 | Posted
on 15-Aug-03 03:45 PM
phateko_kattu Ji, oh ho jhandai birsay ko. thanks for the infos hai hajur, and thanks a lot for the source too. I will sure sure the story next time when bajees bring up why they did not want to joing the British Army. haass ta hajur.. hajut ko heart layee ramroo hoss.. swastha ko dhan rakhibakshayala.. mero suvakamana.. byeee. |
| Mrbahun | Posted
on 15-Aug-03 05:35 PM
Hehe, here comes the time when i get proud of my 13 inch bahune .... where all the others chimses admire |
| Mrbahun | Posted
on 15-Aug-03 05:48 PM
Greatest of all, tallest of all, broadest of all, weightest of all, intellegent of all, high-class of all, and kind of all and riches of all---the Bahuns. |
| Mrbahun | Posted
on 15-Aug-03 05:50 PM
the supreme Nepalese- the bahuns, can u compare urself ?? no not at alll, because the bahuns are the all on one of all |
| jainepal | Posted
on 15-Aug-03 06:05 PM
hare!!! ur all just a bunch of conceited, arrogant and insular bastards. I can only send my thanks to porcelina who is obviously more competent than any one of you will ever be. Jai Nepal |
| nepali_angel | Posted
on 15-Aug-03 07:51 PM
All right folks, this is too much. Let's cut this crap, for real. Bahuns shmauns, chettri shmettri, magar shmagar, who cares!!! I am actually half bahun. My mom is more of an OLLA PODRIDA, Burmese from the Paternal side, Gurung from the maternal side. Well, it's more complicated than that, actually. But this stupid discussion is just that, STUPID. Who in her right mind would start topics like, "Proud to be Bahun" or "Bahuns are good people"? Don't get too caste obsessed. Let's transcend this minor impasse, shall we? So, what would that make me? |
| Rastafariya | Posted
on 15-Aug-03 08:02 PM
Birader MrBahun. Shhhh! you is have to be careful. If them Chyangba hear it him get angry. Them Peopal is no have educasion and intelligent. But them gets angry and them when them gets angry even them Shiva shivers. You is have to be very very careful. If you is start to talks like that them we is going to have them problem like in them Bihar. Them peopal like Lallu Prasad Yadav (Chyangba) will come. You is know that? Them Bihar in India was them ruled by them Indian Bahuns who them is Thousand times smarter than them all Our Bahuns. Them Bihari Bauns started talkin like you and him Yadav Birader gets very very angry. Now him Lallu Prasad birader come. Them Bahuns in Bihar even put he in Jail. Now him do elecsion from jail and him win. Now him Ministar from them Jail. So let you and I be careful birader Mr Baun. Just like them Everythin British started talkin in South Africa. Them everything British had them bad bad time. So I is say peace birader Mr. Baun. |
| nepali_angel | Posted
on 15-Aug-03 08:04 PM
Damn Rastafaria, you are so boring! I don't think anybody even reads your longass incoherent messages. I know I don't. |
| ozdownunder2 | Posted
on 15-Aug-03 08:11 PM
Are you the Dyke on the Bike ? Nepali Angel being dyke, no wonder should be made the first jaise bahuni panturi...good on ya pseudo intellectual sama sex fukker.... |
| nepali_angel | Posted
on 15-Aug-03 08:14 PM
Ozdownunder, stop talking about your friend called Dick, because the last time I heard you got sprayed because your master(since you already conceded to be into BDSM) took you for a BHUSIYA KUKUR. |
| ozdownunder2 | Posted
on 15-Aug-03 08:34 PM
Nepali dyke jaise bahuni now wanna be Lippi Lipstick Lady....Owaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa the fuk is happening here ? Have you ticks under your pants ? No moranic poofs ever spread me you dyke without my little bro called Trickie Dickie Nixon the Saxon.... Anyhow you dyke that some Dick Saxophone can still lay you to lay spread legged for comfort and creating ectasy bound sexy saxophonic sound from yeeeeeeeeeeeeeee yahhhhhhhhhhhhhh yes yes and more yes. What do ya say ? Is that your source of Shiva Lingams ? |
| Rastafariya | Posted
on 15-Aug-03 08:47 PM
Yo Nepali Angel! Looks like you is dont like them truth. Looks like you is too American. That what them say when them intelligence peopal not like them truth them say that all them time. Them say oh him not makin sense. You is great peopal Nepali Angel ! |
| manepali | Posted
on 16-Aug-03 05:19 AM
this issue has really been overluked for quite a long time! surely with due respect to mr.lal and others(non bahun), wats eating u all? the fact that bahuns r gettig superior or is it coz u r getting nowhere at all. it is so rediculous of u to say all the top officials r bahuns including the politicians, xcuse me but the voters r not ( all bahun) regime and they definetly have not voted on biased terms. and bahun have been the pioneers of knowledge and wisdom from not now but then wen our culture started growing its roots, and i am definetly proud of my culture! and y and who distinguished the bahiuns and sudras r definetly not brahmins. so ur biased ness towards brahmins isr but unjustifiable. and please take a chill pill and think and get to the roots of wats behind the bahun magic rather than accusing their superiority with no sense of reasons beyond ur own insecurity. |
| Rastafariya | Posted
on 16-Aug-03 10:02 AM
Birader Manepali! We is proud of our culchur too. Birader Napali you is needs to go and looka at how culchur started and how them Lands was taken. Excuse me birader Manepali! Who them made them rules? Who them dictated rules for their selfish fulfillments? Was it my fada? My granfada? You is not readin. What them Nepali Angel wrote? You is not biased? Birader Manepali! Why them peopal said when my biraders fight and die that Democracy is for them all peopal? Why them nothing changed for da biraders and only them Ministers and relatives have them big big Houses and Pajeros? Them peopal was fine with them everything before. Them came and told peopal that them bring Democracy and them change everything. Why them only change theyselves? We is not talkin about intelligence. We is talkin about all them deceive thru da generasions and still not stoppin. |
| phateko_kattu | Posted
on 16-Aug-03 12:36 PM
Marich ji , I take your posting as compliments to me .Thank you . Tara Mero phateko kattu baata niskeko gas ley Qaidi haru lai bhukluk bhukluk maarne ku-bichaar chahi nagarnush .Kina bhane gas ta mero nai ho ni ,hoinata ?mero gas baata marne haru ley gayera Yemraj lai complain garyo bhane ...mero k durgati huncha ....kabhi socha hai apne ?Ma marera gaye pachi Yemraj lai kun mukh dekhaune >?Tit for Tat bhanera Yemraj ley malai uhaan ko gas sunghna baddhya tulaunu bhayo bhaneta ma ziundo laash hune chu hazoor ...tesaile tyo kura lai tehin chadam hola :o) ---------------------------------------------- Himal thapa ji aka Momocha ji "Subah ka bhula huwa shaam ko laut aye ...to ushe bhula huwa nahin kahte ".better late then never . Thanks for thanking me . ---------------------------------- terimabajiya ji that was nice joke man (some more ?) ----------------------------------------------------------- There are only two people who truly speaks Katu-satya (Hardcore truth).One is me myself and the other one is Rastafaria .Good job bro keep going .I am here to back you up .:o) ------------------------------- I have been been following Nepali angel in this thread carefully .1st posting she indicated that she is brahmin ..second one she says she is pure chettri .My My now she says she is half gurung burmese .She also said she is american .(as if we had asked her about her background ).I am not going to raise my eyebrows if she finally says she is a "CHICK with a DIK ":o) How can a judge give fair verdict when witnesses keep changing thier story ?Under the Article 24(4) of the Basic Law of Sajha.com , You cannot change your lanes .You are not allowed to keep telling me who you are (cause I already know :O)).Please stick to her bayaan ........I know Lawyers like Chituwa ,momocha ,Rbaral ,ptdynsty,rastafaria are very smart and aggressive Fairest Judge In the whole god damn world . Nepali angel dont use bad words to me pls . I have a heart problem and may get heart attack uhi The judge PK |
| Paani | Posted
on 16-Aug-03 02:18 PM
Lil Johnny=Thuggedout=Nepali angel |
| nepali_angel | Posted
on 16-Aug-03 02:47 PM
Paani, you must have STUPID painted all over you. |
| nepzkilla | Posted
on 16-Aug-03 04:02 PM
wtf is going on here.. keho yo proud to be bhaun.. wtf.. man.. who gives a fak if u r bhaun, dhoti... no one.. l8er man. |
| Rastafariya | Posted
on 16-Aug-03 04:23 PM
Birader Nepz killa you is needs to ask him Nepali Angel. Him know everything. Him being proud. We is proud to have peopal like Nepal Angel. Actually her is American Angel. |
| sankaa | Posted
on 16-Aug-03 10:39 PM
I not see why nepali ppl need to be so proudy proudy when they bocome amerikan citisen (?????) i see so many homeless amerkikans, abused, poor amerikans. I see rich amerikans but they are pompus and stupid. Why nepali ppl want to be amrikan, if become amerikan then why need to menton that again and again, as if he/she has bocome the queen/king of heaven... |
| Josephite | Posted
on 17-Aug-03 12:15 AM
Erm....your use of the english language says it all! |
| nepzkilla | Posted
on 17-Aug-03 06:06 AM
yo rasta my nepali buddy yo american angel ki nepali angel.. same ta ho i think she is proud to be nepali ani bhaun.. ... herda khari sabai jana proud cha.. la ta peace out.. www.nephop.com check it out peeps |
| kaluram | Posted
on 17-Aug-03 06:45 AM
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Sunam 4 jaat ,36 varna ka mache ho !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! mai khau mai lau bhanne abujha sath dekhi khitta chodi kan hasyo chitta marimri. ............Manis thulo dilale huncha jat le hudain....... $$$$$$$$$$$ hataka maila suna ka thaila ke garnu dhanle$$$$$$$$$$$ antan ma, ***** Aakhari ma mato nai ho timi pani mai pani.****** Remember all . ke ko lagi jhagada , may lord gives you guys satta buddi , OM shanti OM shanti OM shanti |
| manepali | Posted
on 17-Aug-03 10:49 AM
MR RATAFARIYA THOSE BAHUNS WHO LOOTOFY(ALONG WITH INUMERABLE OTHERS SANO JATIYA), R THE ONES WHO ALSO FOUGHT FOR DEMOCRACY, AND THOUGH THEY COULD HAVE DONE MUCH BETTER, THEY HAVE DONE NO LESS! AND MR NATIONSARI, ABUSING NEPALIANGEL IS BUT PATHETIC ON UR PART., ITS NOT HELPING THE CONSTRUCTIVE CONTINUITY OF THE THREAD,. ANYWAYS NOONE BUT U R BIASED. AND BAHUN WILL REMAIN BAHUN AND THY R THE BEST |
| Rastafariya | Posted
on 17-Aug-03 10:56 AM
Birader Manapeli! You is wrong here again. Them Peopal never fight for Democracy. You is not knowing it birader Manepali. I and I fought for Democracy and my biraders fought for Democracy thinking that Democracy is them Government for da peopal by them Peopal of da peopal. Them your Peopal fought too. But you is wrong here. Them your peopal did not no fight for Democracy. Them Your Proud Peopal fought for THEM O CRACY. That why them keep takin turun to be Ministers and them Sachivs. Looka clearly birader Manepali and accept the Truth |
| phateko_kattu | Posted
on 17-Aug-03 12:57 PM
As this case keeps ongoing .I would like to ask all the lawyers and jurors ,"Dont they look happy together ?" 4th from the left = janajati woman 5th from the left = Chettri (looks like momocha ji :o)) 2nd from left = bramin (looks like nepali angel ) 1st from left = looks like porcelina 1st from right = looks like MrBahun front row (right)= looks like Manepali 
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| phateko_kattu | Posted
on 17-Aug-03 12:59 PM
Hatterika In jest lekhna ta bhusukkai bhulechu :o) |
| Rastafariya | Posted
on 17-Aug-03 04:38 PM
Who them is these beautiful Peopal? |
| Paani | Posted
on 18-Aug-03 09:58 AM
Nepangel, you have ANAL IRRITANT witten all over your forehead too. Just look in the mirror...It reads NEPALI seed, American grown, one confused anal irritant. |
| nepzkilla | Posted
on 19-Aug-03 06:21 AM
yo sala yo nepali angel.. yo nepali hoina.. yo american wanna be ho.. |
| Sadabichar | Posted
on 22-Aug-03 01:03 PM
The End!! Good. |
| john doe | Posted
on 22-Aug-03 01:12 PM
SB, u're a few bulbs short of a chandelier, arent u? When u want a thread to end, the SMART thing to do is to leave it alone, not post something to it with a stupid remark like " The end! Good!!" and bring it up to the top of the list again. |
| Sadabichar | Posted
on 22-Aug-03 01:20 PM
You are my follower. |
| desh_bhakta_bhattarai | Posted
on 22-Aug-03 08:34 PM
 RASTAMAN BACK? Er... |
| Rastafariya | Posted
on 22-Aug-03 08:54 PM
Birader Bhattarai! What them? You is not want I back? You is happy or them you is worry that I is back? |
| desh_bhakta_bhattarai | Posted
on 22-Aug-03 09:04 PM
I am happy that you are back...but PLEASE...DON'T call me "naak chuchhe bahun" again...it hurts. |
| Rastafariya | Posted
on 22-Aug-03 09:41 PM
Birader Bhattarai! I is never call my birader Nak chuchhey Bahun. I is call them Chimsey Bahun. How come I can call my birader Naak Chuchhey? You think I is going to lie? |