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| Junu |
Posted
on 27-Aug-03 09:38 PM
This is hard to believe. who is safe in Nepal? Did really maost shot him?
Army colonel shot dead in Kathmandu
A senior army official, Colonel Kiran Basnet has been shot dead by a group of Maoists at Baneshwor, downtown Kathmandu at around 7:30 a.m. Thursday morning, eyewitnesses said at 9.00 a.m.
Basnet was in Itahari office. He was brought to Kathmandu for official cause, sources said. (details to follow) nepalnews.com mr/rh Aug 28
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| ruck |
Posted
on 27-Aug-03 09:42 PM
It's a pity. They've have started it all over again.
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| ashu |
Posted
on 28-Aug-03 04:47 AM
As Nepal's most famous SLC Board First student Babu Ram Bhattarai said when asked -- earlier this year in Kathmandu -- about the killings of Krishna Mohan and wife Nudup:
"Let's not get tangled up in trivial details."
Apparently, that appears to be Baburam's favorite sentence.
Just last week, when asked about the reports of Maoists' "requesting donations" from non-Maoist Nepalis, he again calmed troubled waters by saying: "Let's not get tangled up in trivial details."
When Babu Ram puts it like that . . . "Let's not get tangled up in trivial details" . . . I feel quite stupid for worrying about such "trivial details" as extortion and killings, which are, well, business as usual for our Maoist Nepalis.
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Are Padma Ratna Tuladhar, Daman Nath Dhungana, Sindhu Nath Pyakurel and other mediators FINALLY going to retire for good now?
I hope they do.
My question: No matter how many times they fail to broker peace (and this is the fifth time, if not more), why is it that we keep on choosing them to be the mediators? Are there not other people in Nepal besides these?
Too bad that Ramesh Nath Pandey's ego was too big to accommodate Narayan Singh Pun's quiet yet electirfying behind-the-scenes work that gave the country so much hope earlier this year.
My solution: Bring Pun back and prop him up to make up his own team to negotiate with the Maoists for immediate cease-fire. Pandeys, Thapas and others will continue to make a mess of the negotiation process. How many times do we want to bang our head against the wall?
oohi
ashu
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| RBaral |
Posted
on 28-Aug-03 05:43 AM
Ashu ji:
Excellent point.
Why was Narayan Sing Pun replaced by Thapa and Lohani? I think he was doing an excellent job. Why was Chanda sacked? What next to Surya Bahadur Thapa?
Where's King Gyanendra's last resort?
Namaste,
Rishi
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| barad |
Posted
on 28-Aug-03 06:50 AM
its nice if we could have a ceasefire again,but lets face reality here!!if we want peace,the maoists want it under their terms.now i am no supporter of king g,but i think theres more than the monarchy thats at stake here,the maoists want us to live under them,they want to create another cambodia.....and thats a no no.So we have to finish them off,of atleast weaken them so that when we have another round of talks ,the govt then can bring babu ram to size.
i think the army will not be able to turn the tide by conventional means,even a superpower like the US is having a hard time fighting guerilllas in Iraq,so the RNA must adopt some unconventional tactics,maybe like that what the colombians did to pablo escobar.RNA should form a secret group that goes after the moaists and adopts the same tactics of the maoists,that being fear.burn their properties,demolish buildings,and do what maoists,make them mad.make them come out of hidiing,make them commit mistakes and terminate them!!!there will be bloodshed,but thats gonna happen anyways.It worked in colombiaa,it made pablo escobar make mistakes and he was then killed later.the colombian govt to this date denies it had anything to do with the group,but as soon as pablo was killed,the group just disappeared.maybe that way we can still enjoy freedom,we will then deal with monarchy later.
just a thought!!!
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| Sadabichar |
Posted
on 28-Aug-03 07:33 AM
>>>Ashu
As Nepal's most famous SLC Board First student Babu Ram Bhattarai said when asked -- earlier this year in Kathmandu -- about the killings of Krishna Mohan and wife Nudup:
"Let's not get tangled up in trivial details."
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This is the most horrific and sorry situation in Nepal. Killing sarvasaadharan janata becomes trivial !! Killing Krishana Mohan and his wife becomes trivial. Killing Colonel Basnet becomes trivial. Killing anyone becomes trivial.
Babu Ram should ask himself, shouldn't killing of Babu Ram Bhattarai, Prachanda or Badal also become trivial.
They all (Maoists and Non-maoists including all in political parties and Govt.) should open their eyes and understand that killing any of the sarvasaadharan janata, in no way, should be considered trivial.
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| suva chintak |
Posted
on 28-Aug-03 07:44 AM
Cold blooded, warm blooded, or hot blooded?
Last week when a number of Maoists were killed in the east, Kathmandu's well-heeled human right thekedars were crying foul about cold-blooded killings. I wonder how they will judge today's killings, or the thousands of others put to the blade or the bullet by our revolutionary heroes.
Would the real human rightist please speak up, including the AI?
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| ashu |
Posted
on 28-Aug-03 07:56 AM
Suva Chintak,
I have done enough of "sangat" with Kathmandu's human rights activists to know that they are visible sympathizers of the Left and are very much driven along ideological and party-political lines.
My own experience is that: With the exception of Gopal Siwakoti Chintan (who calls himself an independent and a 'former Leftist') if you try to discuss philosophy or
argue the finer points of rights and liberty with these guys, you'll come away quite disappointed by their LACK of academic rigor, conceptual clarity and intellectual
honesty.
In Nepal, I am sorry to say that the dominant trend has been that failed politicians and ambitious left-leaning NGO-wallahs become human rights activists, and that's the way it has been.
oohi
ashu
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| suva chintak |
Posted
on 28-Aug-03 08:14 AM
Ashu jyu,
Thanks for the clarification, it just seems fishy when they cry wolf when the comrades are biting the dust, but choose to keep mum when the civilians and the security personnel are being whacked by the other side.
All of which makes me believe that what we have in Nepal right now might not be human right but instead 'Mao-right.'
Do keep safe! Somewhere here you said that it is not very healthy to speak your mind in Nepal now. I agree, those guys respect no human rights, no freedom of expression, no personal liberty. For those guys, the only good critic is a dead critic.
The bottom line for me is: At least with the 'old regime', you can blame them, accuse them, say anything you like and still get away with it. But the way things are shaping right now, the 'new regime' will only tolerate people who commit to become its willling propaganda pieces.
So, watch out and don't forget to duck!
Suva Chintak
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| dautari |
Posted
on 28-Aug-03 08:47 AM
Ashu dai,
You are in Nepal. What is the situation of daily life of Kathmandu after the recent developments? I heard the security has been beefed up. They say the Maoists have now decided to attack Kathmandu. Do you think that is true?
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| dbastola |
Posted
on 28-Aug-03 09:01 AM
Kiran dia was the best among the best I knew as a human being. It is really sad to hear that such a nice person, although in the army, could be murdered in cold blod is terrible. Who next? Dr. Bhattarai the jerk?
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| phateko_kattu |
Posted
on 28-Aug-03 09:55 AM
Ashu ji ,
I really support your idea of bringing back Col Narayan Singh Pun back to negotiating table .Why was he replaced ?
I see Col.Narayan Singh Pun as the only option who can really bring peace in the country .After all he was the one responsible for ceasefire between Maoists and Army for the first time after years of bloodshed .
Ashu ji ,
Do you happen to know why Col. Pun is in UK right now ?
Thank you for yoru attention .
Regards
PK
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| isolated freak |
Posted
on 28-Aug-03 10:16 AM
guys,
let's not forget one thing: in this post 9-11 world order in which the UN Resolution 1373 applies, and the whole world is against terrorism of any sort, how could the Maoists unilaterally d eclare an end to the ceasefire? isn't this a question to think on? I am not an Indophobic, but, I am sure this Maoist action is due to a sudden change in India's policy towards Nepal. So, except something big happening in Nepal in not so far future.
namaste!
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| nepali_angel |
Posted
on 28-Aug-03 02:29 PM
He is Kumar Basnet's brother, isn't he? May his soul rest in peace. Haven't we had enough of these gun toting fanatic rebels who we call the maoists? It's time for a military or Royal coup, I say. If I were the leader of the coup, and if I were to take control of Nepal that way, I would:
1. award Rs. 1,000,000 to whoever brings heads of Maoist leaders.
2. provide full immunity to Maoist defectors--those that are willing to give some insiders as to how the Maoists function. Really, the clandestine nature of Maoist operations is also a reason why we haven't been able to take serious actions against these scums. Not just that, we should also reward those that are willing to fight on our side.
3. legalize capital punishment, which would only be applicable to MAOIST guerillas. That way, they would know what would be waiting for them, were they to be caught.
And also, we need someone who is an expert military strategist. How about Gyanendra. Bring him back yo. We need someone who is ruthless and can deal with dangers like these head-on, tete-a-tete, with no bullshitting. Bring back full-blown monarchy, I say.
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