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| Neta_ji |
Posted
on 29-Aug-03 03:39 PM
1. Why is the overwhelming percentage of the rebel fighting force is made up of these indigenous ethnic groups ?
2 Why did they sided with the rebels instead of the Kathmandu estatablishemt ("old regime" as described by the rebels) ?
3 What is the primary goal of these indigenous ethnic groups ?
(a): Is it to establish a Communist state ? or
(b): to make a dramatic change in the attitude of the establishment towards them which will clear the social, political, economic, administartive, educational, legal and constitutional obstacles put in place by the 240 year old Kathmandu establishment that can change the socio-political and socio-economic state of thier reality regardless of any political system ?
4 Why do political analysts and experts of Nepal fail to look and examine the socio-political and socio-economic factors that attract these indigenous ethnic communities towards revolt against the Kathmandu regime rather than to negotiate a settlement ?
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| Learner |
Posted
on 29-Aug-03 04:08 PM
Everyone has his/her own opinion - I respect it first of all whether it is against mine.
My opinion about Maoist insurgency in Nepal is that there is a limit to everything. When that limit is exceeded, then anything could happen. So is the case with our country. Those who were enjoying power, money and what not, were madly enjoying. It is so obvious how rich are getting richer and poor pooer. Communista are also human beings, they too know what is peace and the outcomes of war. I don't support anybody, I say again. But I just want to know the truth, why it is happenning. Our politicians drive Pajeros while there is not even basic needs like safe water, minimum health care, and work to sruvive for the poor. There are thousands of children and women dying of lack of basic health care, pregnant women dying during delivery and so on... In the far western regions, every year thousands die of hunger - does anyone care about them?
We all are responsible for that and hence we have to face the result too.
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| Neta_ji |
Posted
on 29-Aug-03 04:35 PM
How much did the strong caste-based social system of Nepal isolated these indigenous ethnic group out of the mainstream of social, political, economic and educational development therefore they found the rebels much closer and promising ?
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| rajunpl |
Posted
on 29-Aug-03 11:14 PM
NETA-JI>>1. Why is the overwhelming percentage of the rebel fighting force is made up of these indigenous ethnic groups ?
Because These indigenous people would like to have the taste a little bit of democracy, a bit of development, a bit of change that can bring their life out of misery.So, that they can have the change in very basic lifestyles.
You go and see the villages of the far east/west. Their structure are as same as 240 years ago. May be the only difference is the GORETO BATO.Which is bit broader than the 50 or 100 years ago.They have to walk half an hour to just get drinking water in their home.They are fighting for the very basic lifestyle.Now, If they have to fight with the eastablishment so that they will walk only five minutes to grt drinking water . THEY WILL.
If you were in their place neta ji, surely you would.
Other basic thing is, There can be 100s different government those indigenous people will not/have never seen changes in their ethinic communities.When maoist insurgency rise they 've seen many changes like building the bridges,construction of further goreto bato and many other basic changes.
This is what I have seen and felt from my very eyes neta ji.
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| Neta_ji |
Posted
on 30-Aug-03 08:46 AM
By the way, did the Kathmandu establishment prepare its position on agendas regarding the social, political, ecommonic, educational state of reality of these indigenious ethnic groups of Nepal, I did not hear anything till the breakdown of peace process after the 3rd rounds of peace talks ?
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| boston_dude |
Posted
on 30-Aug-03 08:50 AM
The poor, the suppressed, the "untouchables" have risen up and are rightfully demanding what is theirs. Time for social elites to realise what pains they have inflicted upon the poor for hundreds of years. This fight could be over when there is a fracture within RNA itself. And, that day will come. After all, how long will the fighting men of RNA continue to serve the king? How long will they continue to serve the Rana, the Thapa and Singh commanders? When they realise that they are killing their brothers to protect these undeserving commanders, "the war" will be over. My hope is that, that day will come sooner than later so there will be less blood shed than would be otherwise.
B_D.
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| GurL_Interrupted |
Posted
on 30-Aug-03 01:26 PM
"(THESE) indigenious ethnic groups of Nepal"
Ouch Neta Ji, that was a bit harsh! "The indigenious ethnic group of nepal" would have sunded more milder :-s!
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| sputnik007 |
Posted
on 30-Aug-03 06:38 PM
what we are facing is another peru in making. my assumption is that we will have 70 thousands of "these" indeginious people killed before the conflict ends. maoist needed peasants for their revolution and "these" indeginious people fit right into their tactic. the sole objective of maoist is to grab power from the state while RNA tries to protect the status quo. in the middle caught are these people whom most of them have no clue of the conflict. actions of the successive government showed that they did not and do not care for the rights and humanity of "these" indeginious people. such attitude in turn helped to advance the maoists cause.
in order for the conflict to end, the establishment including the political parties must accept their past mistakes and provide "these" indeginious people greater soical and economical role in society. "these" indeginious people have been discriminated, isolated, victimized and neglected since the creation of our nation. regardless of ones ethnic background, each death is a loss of our brother or sister. war is never an answer.
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| Neta_ji |
Posted
on 31-Aug-03 02:46 PM
Well, thanks "Girl_Interrupted" and "Spatunik." I wanted to generate a response by using the word "THESE." I intentionally used the "harsh term." It is very nice to witness the changing attitude and the state of race relations in the some sections of the Nepali society.
If the Kathmandu establishment changed the attitude towards "these" indigenous ethnic groups and have had proceeded with social, political, economic, educational etc agendas towards changing the socio-political and socio-economic state of reality of "these" indigenous ethnic groups after the political changes in the country in 1990 (even February 1996 was not too late), we would not have to witness the overwhelming participation of "these" indigenous ethnic groups in the armed revolt favoring the side of the rebels. Unfortunately,after more than 7 years into the revolt, even after the 2nd ceasefire and after the 3rd round of talks of the peace process, the Kathmandu establishment has no political agendas on this regard.
Yes, it is very unfortunate to see our own countrymen getting killed and disappeared. I never want to get involved with the rebels, but I have sympathy for them because they presented the fundamental socio-political and socio-economic agendas on behalf of "these" indigenous ethinc groups (and the Kathmandu establishment tossed those agendas into the garbage bin).
by the way, I belong to one "THESE" very indigenous ethnic groups.
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