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Height of hypocrisy

   Ashutosh Tiwari complaining about someon 05-Jul-01 86xavierian
     I think it was Einstein who made this re 05-Jul-01 ashu
       Please go ahead and show us ONE case in 05-Jul-01 ashu
         Hi! I know many people here do not kn 05-Jul-01 Trailokya Aryal
           Just to everyone know that I am not defe 05-Jul-01 Trailokya Aryal
             Hi Trai, As the 1.7 billion Chinese n 05-Jul-01 ashu
               And that, it's only by having a variety 05-Jul-01 ashu
                 Trailokya, If you haven't seen Kanak 05-Jul-01 86xavierian
                   Oohi in the goo-ee, oohi in the goo-ee 05-Jul-01 The Lone Goo Slinger
                     I love the way you have plagiarized my a 05-Jul-01 The Lone Gun Slinger
                       Thanks, Gun. I prefer to think of it 05-Jul-01 The Lone Goo Slinger
                         You killed our egroup, now you're on the 05-Jul-01 Another 86Xavierian


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86xavierian Posted on 05-Jul-01 12:17 AM

Ashutosh Tiwari complaining about someone impersonating him is the height of hypocrisy. It is like the kettle calling the pot black. He is the same guy who impersonated a classmate of ours, Ram Babu Kashyap, for months on our batch mailing list using a hotmail account before he was nailed down. Just ask any of our classmates: Xavier's batch of 1986.

On SCN, Ashutosh Tiwari went on complaining about people using psuedonyms to post until it was revealed that Ashutosh Tiwari himself had been using a psuedonym, Bhupendra Rawat, to degrade others and argue both ways (on TND and Kathmandu Post). Mr. Tiwari, enough is enough. Remember slander begets slanders. You are responsible for degenerating this site for you started it. Mr. Tiwari, as you sow, so you reap.
ashu Posted on 05-Jul-01 12:49 AM

I think it was Einstein who made this remark upon
hearing that a book with a title "100 scientists
against Einstein" had been published.

Einstein remark was: "If I had been wrong, one scientist
against me would have been enough."

Having nothing to fear, I take my inspiration
from Einstein, while posting stuff in my own name.

Lies are lies -- they remain uncommented upon, while
the truth needs a defense.

More attacks against Ashu? Go ahead.

As snake-charmers in India have taught us all,
the best way to ultimately charm a snake is to FIRST
grab it tight by the neck so that it reallyreally
wants to kill you . . . so that you can use
its anger to get the venom/poison out.

Could such reasoning work in human's case too?
You bet.

oohi
ashu
ashu Posted on 05-Jul-01 12:59 AM

Please go ahead and show us ONE case in which I have abused my well-known pen name Bhupendra Rawat (which I use primarily to write humor and offbeat pieces) to slander people either on TND or The Kathmandu Post.

And, pray, tell me, who on earth have I slandered by using
that pen name?

If the Post ko editors are reading this, that's even better :-)

oohi
ashu
Trailokya Aryal Posted on 05-Jul-01 01:34 AM

Hi!

I know many people here do not know about the SCN and what went in there. So, let me take this oppurtunity to make everything clear to everyone.

SCN was similar to this message board, and yes, ashu used to post messages there. I first came across him in SCN, a little more than 2 years ago. And I did have some heated discussion with ashu dai on that site, which was in a way a good learning experience.

Just to presnet the facts:

1. I don't remember ashu using Kanak Baniya to post messages against his enemies' and their families nor did he ever denied using B Rawat as his pen name. So, the accusation that he posted messages using those names in the SCN is NOT true.


2. There was indeed a full fledged cyber war between ashu and rajesh babu, and that time I had protested against ashu and rajesh babu bringing in their personal stuff in the board. And I was quite critical of some messages that ashu posted there. I still think he made some mistakes then, but, we all make mistakes and learn from those , hoina ra? And I think ashu too has learned from his mistakes which is obvious in the way he is dealing with his attackers here.

I know I will be labelled chamcha and what not by people here and to be honest, I don't give a damn to what people say. One thing we can learn from him is to be brave and post messages using our real names. There are disagreements between us in many issues but still, i respect him as an intellegent and a brave man who has the guts to post messages using his real name.


Trailokya Aryal
Trailokya Aryal Posted on 05-Jul-01 01:43 AM

Just to everyone know that I am not defending anyone, (or offending anyone).

Trailokya.

PS- Too people who have labelled me chamcha, I had, in the past, posted messages in SCN which were highly critical of ashu.

Trai
ashu Posted on 05-Jul-01 04:05 AM

Hi Trai,

As the 1.7 billion Chinese next to our
borders have taught us:

There are those who are 'jun-zi'
and there are those who are 'xiao-ren'.

The former is motivated by yi, while the
latter, don't want to lose their 'mainzi'
by posting in their real names.

OK, it's a DIFFICULT language altogether; but
I am determined to learn it well. Thanks to
you and Biswo and others for all your
inspiration.

oohi
ashu
ashu Posted on 05-Jul-01 04:09 AM

And that, it's only by having a variety of good and
bad experiences that one can 'gangjian ziqiang'.

After all, it's very important to be 'zhong' and 'xin'
and maintain a sense of 'gong ping'.

oohi
ashu
86xavierian Posted on 05-Jul-01 09:59 AM

Trailokya,

If you haven't seen Kanak Baniya's postings on SCN, I urge you to look it up. It IS true.

So is Bhupendra Rawat. I will have to look up references on TND where Bhupendra Rawat argued vociferously against Paramendra Bhagat among others, and Ashutosh Tiwari meekly supported PB's musings.

Finally, impersonation of Ram Babu Kashyap by Ashutosh Tiwari is also TRUE. It's all in the archives.

I'm sorry that the person you looked up to has fallen, and it is hard to accept. I feel the same thing. Life goes on.
The Lone Goo Slinger Posted on 05-Jul-01 10:51 AM

Oohi in the goo-ee, oohi in the goo-ee

Nya-nya-nya-nya-nya,

That's all I want to write on this site,

My whole life is dedicated to ONE PERSON,

because he is a JERK

that is why my whole life is dedicated to proving why I hate ONE PERSON,

let me say it again and again and again and again and again and tomorrow I'll post stuff from SCN to prove it,

Oh yes, I'll prove it someday, yes I will,

nya-nya-nya-nya-nya,

I will be happy when Oohi is in the goo-ee

I want this site to be about only one thing,

ALL ASHU ALL THE TIME
The Lone Gun Slinger Posted on 05-Jul-01 10:59 AM

I love the way you have plagiarized my alias. But absolutely NO hard feelings pal.
The Lone Goo Slinger Posted on 05-Jul-01 11:04 AM

Thanks, Gun.

I prefer to think of it as creative adaptation.

No hard feelings, either. I think people can tell us apart.
Another 86Xavierian Posted on 05-Jul-01 11:59 AM

You killed our egroup, now you're on the path of destroying this one. people are sick of this. This has been going on for quite a few years. grow up. Can't you get it in your thick head that people are not interested in your personal fights ???? If you keep this up you are just going to gather more enemies.. So SHUT THE HELL UP.