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| dautari |
Posted
on 10-Sep-03 08:56 AM
Why do we love to hate Indians? Whenever we have to refer to Indians the first word that pops up in our minds is "dhoti" - a word that is supposed to be an insult.
Let's face it we just love to hate Indians. I am known as some sort of pro-Indian but even I like to hate Indians. I hate average Hindi movies. I hate general Indian attitude, and so on.
However, it's Indian movies and Indian TV programmes that has become extremely popular in Nepal. Yet, we love to hate India.
Whenever we mention the success of Indians in any sectors - may it be business or sports or technology - we like to throw insults at them, calling them "dhoti" .. "willing to stoop down to any level to achieve success" ... "willing to work the back sides off at any cost" ... But we are Nepalese. We like to insult Indians for actually working hard. We don't want to shut up and try to work harder.
Yes, we are Nepalese. And we have to hate Indians. Yes, I also hate Indians. In fact, I love to hate the Indians.
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| phateko_kattu |
Posted
on 10-Sep-03 10:07 AM
whats the bottomline dautari ?whats the message to us from this particular posting ?
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| The_Hunter |
Posted
on 10-Sep-03 10:09 AM
I really don't care about Indians. They don't concern me at all. By the way, i enjoy Inidan movies as well as english and nepali movies.
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| bold |
Posted
on 10-Sep-03 10:38 AM
we sould not be hating anybody,we have to learn to love everybody,haterate make it worst,so learn to respect other,so other will respect you
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| ruck |
Posted
on 10-Sep-03 10:48 AM
we love to hate indians simply because we're jealous of them....what say???
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| Ruby |
Posted
on 10-Sep-03 12:44 PM
Well, I guess that the Big Brother bully that the Indian govt SOMETIMES is, and the way they try to control policies in our country, that pisses off many Nepalis. Rather than only disagreeing with the Indian govt alone, it makes one feel amniosity towards the the people of the India itself.
When the Hrithink Roshan episode happened, many Indians boycotted Manisha's movies. How does that make any sense , right?
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| suva chintak |
Posted
on 10-Sep-03 01:05 PM
dautari jyu,
I think you are generalizing too much to make any sense! "Nepalis" hate "Indians"!! Actually a lot of Nepalis don't care either way and many actually love to love Indians. Take me for example, I love Indian women and would never think of hating them! I think the dusky maidens are amazingly sensuously sexy and carry the oomph well. Apart from their physical attractiveness, our southern damsels are seductively articulate as well and make great conversation companions. I can personally vouch for their extraordinary oral charm and competence...get to know a Indian woman well and there will never be a dull moment...such is their wit and quickie repartee, I guarantee it!
SC, the occasional epicurean
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| dautari |
Posted
on 10-Sep-03 01:12 PM
I agree with ruck. Jealousy could be a reason ...
Now I may sound a little confused in my opening posting. And that, I am. Whenever there is an anti-Indian discussion pops up .. I tend to discourage anti-Indian feelings in other people. So, some people call me pro-Indian.
However, at certain times, I find myself disliking Indians and stereotyping. I mean, take Indian cricket for example. Most cricket lovers that I know want to see India losing the match regardless of who they are playing against. I myself have been a supporter of Indian cricket team ever since I was interested in cricket. But whenever there is a match involving the Indian team, I find myself in the minority.
The reason I posted my first message was just get a discussion going. I wanted to discuss about it because this is something that I have always wondered. That is a question that I often ask myself. Why do we hate Indians? In fact, what I feel is .. we do not HATE Indians, we just LOVE TO HATE the Indians. I wonder if you agree with me.
And unlike what p.k. wanted to know, there is simply no message involved in my posting. Just a thought.
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| dhananjya |
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on 10-Sep-03 02:30 PM
Dear Dautari,
To me, you are trying to give a great message of love through this thread, your style is indirect though. Your question is practicle and I have answer of that.
Why do we love to hate Indian?
Let me place you a counter question, why two brothers have cross relationship in our country? My friend, if I take statistic of the people I know, I end up with the conclusion that, in many families, two brothers are not living harmonically. You can ask this to some more friends, you will find majority will have same view as I have.
let me answer you why this happens, seeds of hatred are there in everybodies mind. when you come in contact with someone and something undesirable happens from that person, you generate disliking, this dislike is practiced more and more and develops as hatred. Since your neighbor is closest person to you, more probability of being victim of your hatred. Moreover, as you start to dislike your neighbour, he can not generate harmony and love for you. he will also generate hatred for you. One is throwing petrol and another is throwing fire. This way hatred multiply. Jisus knew that it is very difficult to love closest person, so he said "LOVE THY NEIGHBOURS".
Person doesnot generate hatred for his son or spouse until they are helping him to fulfill his/hers dream. Family members are not rivel and comptator. They are supportors. As soon as any one of them goes against you and your dream (principle), hatred will rise even for him/her. Hatred is hatred, it doenot recognize whom for it is rising. Always, nobody can support you. Always nobody can respect you. Always nobody can do what you want. If you are wise, you will think this and sooth your anger. If not hatred it there, which will generate anger and anger will generate restlessness. Restless life is real hell. We hate Indians because they are close to us and we fiind a lot of undesirable things from them.
The another reason is both the society have very ignorent people. As in a tole (block), you can see family fimily conflict, in a village tole-tole conflict, and in Mela (where people of different villages gather) you can see village village conflict. You might have heard the two tribes are rivles. They are called Kabila, out of ego, they share animosity rather then love. This has becomes tradition. Somebody are following this tradition so they (nepali-indian)hate each other because of this reason. This hatred swips even Taraian Nepales aslo.
I have been in India. There are some people who consider nepali as animal. they treat them like like animal (person without wisdom). Some indians try to supress if you say you are nepali. some indian try to dominate. some try to hate. It dose not mean that we should do the same. If they are negative, do we necessarily have to be negative? I would say no. They are negative, that is their problem. Those who are negative for Nepal can never be positive for India. Negativity is itself a disease, it does not discriminate. If it seems discriminating risonally, that is virtual reality. A nepali who hate indian can not love nepali because, problem is not india and nepal but the problem is hatred.
I have seen there are so many indian they love nepal and nepali. I have many such friends. I agree, India governments policy is not all in our favour. Becasue those people who runs the government are also like us. Greed, hatred, are present even in their mind. For our safe, we have to be equally smart. We don't have to beg from them, we have to take our right. If they want to cheat, we should not be cheated. Being cheated is our problem, our weakness.
India gave birth to Natwarlal and same india produce Gandhi. Rigion is not problem, problem is the HATRED that is overwhilming us, giving us a hell life. Unfortunately most of the Nepali and Indian brothers are passing through these phases, I was one of them. I got detergent to clean up my mind, iradicate hatred to some extent and enjoying happyness to that extent.
dhananjya
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| ruck |
Posted
on 10-Sep-03 04:04 PM
Why do I love to love Indians???
Pandit Hari Prasad Chaurasiya
Ustad Zaakir Hussain
Pandit Ravi Shanker
Bhupen Hazarika
and the list goes on... and yes Sachin , the master blaster...:-))
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| karmapa |
Posted
on 10-Sep-03 08:27 PM
Yeah may be hate North Indian Brahmins.
But I, as sure as hell, don't hate South Indians. May be the Nepalese attitude toward India would have been different if Nepal had bordered the enlightened Kerala or Chennai in the South rather than Bihar and Uttar Pradesh.
And all those Aryans in Nepal who hate Indians just think where your ancestors came to the hills of Nepal from - when their asses were whupped by the Moguls. Where did your national religion and your sanskritised culture come from? Where the Sai Baba and all these Sadhu babas your devout mothers have a big secret crush on come from? Tell me who runs your Pashupati Nath temple? Don't worry someday you are going to fund your mothers' pilgrimmage to the Char Dhams in India with your dollars. Don't try to severe your embilical cord to the country from which you draw sustenance and inspiration and meaning. Love it or hate it, but you sure as hell can't shield yourself from India's pervasive influence.
Well, India may not have colonized Nepal but it sure has colonised our subconscious.
You have anything to say to that?
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| KaleKrishna |
Posted
on 10-Sep-03 09:07 PM
Hating India should not be synonomus with being patriotic. On the contrary it does more harm to the national cause then peaceful existence could materialize. The domination of Nepalese in India as rightly mentioned is a turn of fate. I remember travelling alone in India as a child and arguments in trains would just subside if a Gorkhe got angry and searched for his Khukari (that was more than 15-20 years back). Today Nepali in India is either considered a thief or a coward. It was our bravery, courage and honesty that instilled the fear, which no longer exists. I was in India last month, and could see the changing scenario.
Talking about the Hritik incidence, no body can better explain the genesis of rumor and our trend to be blind to them, then me who happen to see the first burning of the efficy (as mentioned by daily news). Hence, we instead of benifiting from the advancement of India wish to hate them as if we were much superior to them.
Hate or love, India will always remain thy neighbour and it is for our mindset to determine what is best for us to be in harmony or flare up the passion of hatred, that will not spare us.
In one sense it is good for the nation as having common thing to hate, atleast Nepalese brothers will delay their hating for each other. However, the real brotherhood comes in a different country where you are alone amidst others, a single Asian face, that too from South Asia will make you feel as if he is your most closest one.
In this case as conclusion our love to hate Indians is partly because of our jealosy for their progress and partly because we don,t realize that "Nazik to Bhoot, tada ko deuta bhanda kam lagcha"
Basudaivha Kutumbakam
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