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PhD in business?

   Hello Sajha ka mitra bandhu haru I ne 07-Oct-03 forget-me-not
     I'd suggest: First, do an MBA, and decid 07-Oct-03 ashu
       Forget-me-not, Welcome to Sajha's Busin 08-Oct-03 Bhunte
         Bhunte, I tried to look into usnews.c 08-Oct-03 forget-me-not
           FMN, they are there. just fine tune t 08-Oct-03 Bhunte
             FMN wrote: "Ashu ji, I am currently d 08-Oct-03 ashu
               Ashu ji Thanks for the info. I am 08-Oct-03 forget-me-not
                 FMN, Your plans sound good. There 08-Oct-03 ashu
                   As low as Rs 35/hr? That's even lower th 08-Oct-03 bhunte
                     ashu, are services paid on hourly bas 08-Oct-03 bhunte
                       Bhunte, remember these are private colle 08-Oct-03 ashu
                         Bhunte, Yes, the idea of hourly wages 08-Oct-03 ashu


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forget-me-not Posted on 07-Oct-03 07:36 PM

Hello Sajha ka mitra bandhu haru

I need some help in finding a school for PhD in business related field. It would either be MIS, Finance or non for profit.

I welcome all your suggestions. Do any one of know, if anyone from Sajha is currently persuing PhD in business?

How about minimum GMAT scores and other requirements.

ashu Posted on 07-Oct-03 07:44 PM

I'd suggest: First, do an MBA, and decide for yourself whether you really, really like business as a discipline to teach and to do research for the rest of your life, and
then apply to PhD programs with a set of questions that you'd like to find answers
to through a dissertation.

But others, maybe Bhunte, can give you further advice.

Businessweek.com has a "business school" section that should give you pointers on
how to apply to programs that match what you are looking for.

BTW, in Nepal, there's a great demand for those who can teach business-related courses at both the BBA and MBA level at management schools.

Good luck, and best wishes.

oohi
ashu
ktm,nepal
Bhunte Posted on 08-Oct-03 01:12 AM

Forget-me-not,
Welcome to Sajha's Business/Ph.D. Club !

1. About finding business school, you might want to visit - www.usnews.com There you may find top business schools. Each one of them enlisted there has their home pages and details out the program offerings (both MBA and PhD), acceptance rate, average GMAT scores, etc.

2. MBA is shorter duration and payoff high. You can expect to be a business executives after the completion of the degree program. PhD are generally groomed for research and teaching position; takes a longer duration; and payoff just fine. It depends on what career you want to choose.

3. Expect to pay high tuition fee in MBA unless you are lucky to find a donor. Getting graduate assistantship in MBA is rare opportunity. While in PhD you will often find some sort of assistantship if admitted. Most business PhD program require you to appear in an interview, and top notch university like Harvard, MIT, or Stanford may ask you for an interview for their MBA. Spare some money to appear in the interview if required.

4. There is no minimum in GMAT unlike TOEFL. You can figure out that from the average GMAT score of admitted students. Higher the better for sure. If you have GMAT fobia, you better prepare for that. However, that may be superseded by other criterias like good essay (test of writing skill and creative thinking), work experience, recommendation letters, publications, presentation skills, CV.etc.

5. If you are deteremined for a PhD, I suggest you also visit the Ph.D. thread created by one sajha member Neural. There u will find some useful info.

Hope that helps.
forget-me-not Posted on 08-Oct-03 01:33 PM

Bhunte,

I tried to look into usnews.com but thye don't have any info for PhD. Allthey have is for is MBA.

Ashu ji, I am currently doing my MBA and I think career in academics and research is what I am interested in..

I was in Nepal working in this field for several years, but thought that I needed to upgrade myself and get recognised degree..

As I am almost finishing my MAB here, I was thinking of persuing my PhD in business related field..My interest include non for profit sector, finance or related field..which still has lot of options for me when I come back to Nepal.

BTW, what happened to the part time lecturers protest? Where theie pay rate increased? I used to teach at shanker dev and they used to pay me 75 Rs per lecture..that was awful..

Bhunte ke ma phd gardai ho?

hope to hear from you,
Bhunte Posted on 08-Oct-03 02:00 PM

FMN,

they are there. just fine tune the web search there. tons of materials about what u r looking for....
ashu Posted on 08-Oct-03 04:16 PM

FMN wrote:

"Ashu ji, I am currently doing my MBA and I think career in academics and research is what I am interested in.."

Oh, that's brilliant, then. You know what you want, and that's great. Best wishes to you. US News & Views magazine will have the details on business programs at various universities. You may wish to talk to your MBA program's reference librarian. Also,I'd suppose that your current professors will be a source of info too.

***********

"BTW, what happened to the part time lecturers protest? Where theie pay rate increased? I used to teach at shanker dev and they used to pay me 75 Rs per lecture..that was awful.."

I don't know about Shanker Dev, but the private ones such as Ace Institute of Management, Kathmandu College of Management, Apex College, Himalayan White
House and many others seem aggressive about hiring part-time faculty. The pay seems decent enough, and you can negotiate a good deal for yourself.

Anyway, best wishes.

oohi
ashu
ktm,nepal





forget-me-not Posted on 08-Oct-03 05:11 PM

Ashu ji

Thanks for the info.

I am actully looking at vaoius options:
1. To look for a job for a year and finish my opt option and apply for schools for next year
2. Apply for some schools for fall and enroll if I get a good offer..
3. work for 2-3 years and then get back to PhD

How is the job market for Nepal and US double MBA...that might sound funny but that is the reality...I mean outside teaching. I heard Rato Bangala, Malpi, Shuvatara also pay well for A Level teachers....
BTW you know how much is the avg salary for part time people on colleges like Apex and KCM?

Thank you once again..
ashu Posted on 08-Oct-03 06:16 PM

FMN,

Your plans sound good.

There has been a proliferation of management schools in Kathmandu, and that's one reason why teachers of business-related courses are very much in demand in Nepal.
So, don't worry about not getting a teaching job here. With a bit of persistence, you'll do fine in Nepal.

As for an average salary, I am not sure. Anecdotally, I have heard as low as Rs.
35 per hour to as high as Rs. Rs. 2000 per hour. Again, everything depends on how
you negotiate, what your background is, and a lot of other factors.

Personally, I find most Nepal-trained MBAs --though smart -- to be quite narrow in their thinking and outlook. They are good at technical skills that require repetition, but they appear to be weak in thinking through conceptually knotty, "let's look at the big picture" sort of issues. Then again, there are always exceptions, and this is only my opinion based on an admittedly LIMITED experience.

oohi
ashu
ktm,nepal
bhunte Posted on 08-Oct-03 06:21 PM

As low as Rs 35/hr? That's even lower than what my barber charged me for a haircut (an hour of hair cut including head/body massage was Rs 70 )....
bhunte Posted on 08-Oct-03 06:24 PM

ashu,

are services paid on hourly basis in Nepal? interesting development there if so....
ashu Posted on 08-Oct-03 06:25 PM

Bhunte, remember these are private colleges.

The low-end is incredibly, shockingly exploitative here, and the teachers who teach at such colleges are often naata-gotaa or other family members of the Principal or those who have no chance of finding other jobs.

oohi
ashu
ktm,nepal
ashu Posted on 08-Oct-03 06:32 PM

Bhunte,

Yes, the idea of hourly wages is creeping in, especially in part-time teaching profession, where a class-period runs for about an hour or so.

BTW, you'd be amazed, and even stunned at the hourly rates that some well-known lawyers in Nepal charge their donor-agency clients. Their rates are, to put it
charitably, scandalously high (as though these were the partners at, say, Ropes & Gray), and, the thing is they get paid all right, without much fuss. :-)

oohi
"law school anyone?"
ashu
ktm,nepal