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| milkman |
Posted
on 08-Oct-03 04:36 PM
I know I should not be saying this and I am truly sorry but I just could not help it!!!!
When I first opened sajha I saw that oys_chill picture and my first thought was "one more idea for a character for the next Starwars sequel!!"
No offense man, just a friendly suggestion- you must try superglueing your ears to the back of your head for a month or so and see if there is an improvement. You could also try black-ice treatment on those lips.
Just looking after the interests of my homies.........................
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| nepali_angel |
Posted
on 08-Oct-03 04:48 PM
Then let's see your picture. Or are you a little chickenshit with wings flapping like crazy? If you think you're so goodlooking, share it with us, or we'll assume that you're just a little ugly Piccolo lookalike(from DBZ) who's yearning for attention. And seeing that this is your first post, my conclusion is that you're just another alias of a regular poster.
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| Poonte |
Posted
on 08-Oct-03 04:50 PM
Hajur, sarkaar, MILKMAN!
Hajur ko tasbir ko pani darshan garaaibaksiyoshna haamlai ni...punya praapti hune thiyo ki , hajur, haami yo tuchhya praani harulai? Hajur kaa sundar roop le haamra computer haru ujyaalo hune thiye...hajur ka tee mriga nayan le haamra kuroop ma ni sundarta chhaune thiye...sarkaar! Kina lukaaibakseko ho aafno tasbir chai? Jo hukum, sarkar!
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I know I should not be saying this too, and I am truly sorry, but I cannot help it: YOUR ATTITUDE SPEAKS VOLUMES ABOUT YOUR OWN UGLINESS THAT CANNOT BE MATHCED BY ANYTHING UNDER THIS WHOLE WIDE SKY. Your wisest comments would have been better kept inside your goo bhareko khopadi, than to have been uttered via your filthy, ugly, demonic tongue!
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| nepali_angel |
Posted
on 08-Oct-03 04:52 PM
Who on earth would call himself a milkman? What a gayass bitch. Probably likes milking cocks like a cowherder likes milking cows. Fuking closet homosexual bitchass mother fuker. Go fuk yourself with a pike.
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| BASANTI |
Posted
on 08-Oct-03 05:42 PM
EyEbRoWs ArE LiKe CaTeRpPiLArS. Lips LooK LiKe InFeCtEd wItH HiPeS. OvErAlL LoOk LiKe HanUmAn DhOkA BaTa BhaRkAr cHuThEko KuKhUrA ChOr SyAl. O S S S A S S
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| czar |
Posted
on 08-Oct-03 07:26 PM
So the knives are out for Oys now.
I had refrained from remarking on this thread, but perhaps my temper has gotten the better of me. Not a one of you who are taking pot shots at Oys have even a tenth of his talents, sensitivity, intellect or humanity.
That you lot have mustered the courage to abuse him whilst cowering safely behind the guise of anonymity is a damning condemnation of your own characters.
Some of you are thinking that now posse of his friends are charging to his defense. Nope. He's got more than sufficient verbal firepower to skin his attackers and use their hides to polish his shoes.
For those that would splutter with indignation that this is a public forum where free speech is allowed, that Oys is a public figure etc : ZIP IT. This is a PRIVATE web site and to write here is a PRIVELEGE, not a RIGHT. To ABUSE that privelege automatically earns you a DISMISSAL from here.
This thread was started as a calculated, vituperative and vicious attack on a respected sajha member and thus has NO MERIT. To allow such to exist is to besmirch the hard earned reputation of Sajha. I hereby request the administrator to REMOVE this THREAD.
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| eNigma_too |
Posted
on 08-Oct-03 08:39 PM
Czar...and to think all these time I thought of you as the most intelligent member of this discussion board ..silly me..your words are full of anger and a sense of threat linger around it. All the big words of idealism, democratic values, political correctness that you have used till now, I know where it comes from, from the books that you read but could never follow. If I want to comment on Oys_chill , how do you think you can stop me ? by threathning to cut short the thread ? raining verbal abuse from oys_chill and gang ?? go ahead ...try me ??
And whats these about SAJHA.COM being a private forum ?? I never realised that ? I would never have come here had I known that this site has restriction on freedom of speech, something we don't have back in nepal and we cherish every little bit of it. CZAR, who are you to judge anyones talent, sensitivity, intellect or humanity ??
What Milkman wrote is not an abuse by any defination but just the truth...if you don't think so , go ask Oys_chill (lemme see what does he think of his ears )
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| eNigma_too |
Posted
on 08-Oct-03 08:43 PM
And I personally think that if SAJHA.COM post what you wrote below, the site will have less then half the traffic it has now..
CZAR wrote:
"For those that would splutter with indignation that this is a public forum where free speech is allowed : ZIP IT. This is a PRIVATE web site and to write here is a PRIVELEGE, not a RIGHT. To ABUSE that privelege automatically earns you a DISMISSAL from here. "
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| eNigma_too |
Posted
on 08-Oct-03 08:49 PM
nepali_angel is certainly not behaving like an angel here...whats with all the gaalis for Milkman..and If somebody gives his opinion (even though unwanted) about somebody, it doesn't necessarily mean he/she thinks of oneself as better looking...
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| eNigma_too |
Posted
on 08-Oct-03 09:04 PM
Poonte wrote:
>I know I should not be saying this too, and I am truly sorry, but I cannot help it: YOUR
>ATTITUDE SPEAKS VOLUMES ABOUT YOUR OWN UGLINESS THAT CANNOT BE
>MATHCED BY ANYTHING UNDER THIS WHOLE WIDE SKY. Your wisest comments would
>have been better kept inside your goo bhareko khopadi, than to have been uttered via
>your filthy, ugly, demonic tongue!
Poonte..all that poor guy wrote was a personal comment but on the lighter side..that is not any blasphemy !! or is it here in sajha ?? you guys were never meant to attend any stand-up comedy club ... too...too self conscious..too uptight to grasp a little harmless satire..
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| eNigma_too |
Posted
on 08-Oct-03 09:10 PM
And to all those Oys_chill Bhakta ....."Du Arschloch"
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| sankaa |
Posted
on 08-Oct-03 09:13 PM
Milkman: Whats wrong wid you man? why are you saying all these things to OYS? he's the nicest kid i've ever known. What are you jelouse of? did your gf or wife said that she would rather have a good looking kid like OYS chill as her man than a dog faced - sungur attitude moran like you or something? why don't you go milk yourself milkman?
eNigma _too: If I want to comment on Oys_chill , how do you think you can stop me ? by threathning to cut short the thread ? raining verbal abuse from oys_chill and gang ?? go ahead ...try me ??
---------eNigma_too, I think San dai can stop moran like you by banning your IP address, but i'm not too much of a tech guy, so i won't go on details. However, what is your problem? did you not find anything in the world to practice your freedom of speech but the friendliest Nepali kid in the USA? I'm sure if you had known this kid personally then you wouldn't be supportig this moran milkman in here.
"OYS_chill and GAng" eh? dyamnnn you must think that OYS chill is a gangstaaa eh? what an ass have you made of yourself in here. I feel sorry for you. not only that you're challenging to try you, ha ha..
ok ok.. you might be the bravest of the braves, but i must say at the same time that you are the dumbest of the dumbs.
why don't you guys milk eachother... dyamnnnn
sick sick ppl..
i'm gonna go puke ... dyamnnnn
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| oys_chill |
Posted
on 08-Oct-03 09:15 PM
OH Noo! now i really need love potion no. 9.czar dai..this time a lil stronger!!
****
Ok, allow me to say this.
* The photo being featured had nothing to do with how people perceived of me or will perceive of me. Nor I intend to impress anyone with it, nor I wanna get impressed. NOr am i looking for a bride with it, nor bride will judge her man based on a photo posted in sajha (if she does, RAAM JAANE).It was one of those things, sheer exuberance coupled with a curiosity to get in touch with the dreaded reality or les say REAL PEOPLe, HUMANS, mmm, and its awsome :).
I know most of the people I CARE about offline, so, i wouldn't take the postings of the SHEER HONEST fellas like milkman, and basanti, offensive at all. Yes it bothers a little bit, not for what they posted, but rather if they are regular posters of sajha, whom I have interacted in the past :). REGARDLESS, there's a saying in NEPALI or is it hindi NA AAPKA, NA BAAPKA, BMC
*****
among the comments: hanuman dhoka baata chuteko chor was my personal favourite. I have been tagged of this notion of being "INNOCENT" looking for a long long tyam. yes, finally a bad ass.......ou812 bru, are u around did u hear? am i making progress or what?
enigma too, don't even go near my ears. those are two most sensitive organs in my body. N i need them the most especially during CHIN CHiN time......for the gratifying of five sense of cheers :) (yes that's what i think bout them) they might not be perfect, but they are MINE :) ONLY MINE! keep away..shu shu! if u r concerned bout its size n dimensions, don't blame me..blame it on her who nibbles at it every nite ;) eheh!
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| eNigma_too |
Posted
on 08-Oct-03 09:27 PM
Sankaa..and who the "pinche" is San dai ?? Is he your big brother ?? you little sissy ..you think you can block my IP..go ahead..go crying to him...btw..on what ground do you think this San-dai of yours will block my IP ( I even wonder if he can block a static IP address but then who am I, right )..
Oys_chill and gang means oys_chill and sissy chamchas like you....nincompoop
(oys_chill..honestly, no offense meant to you...but am sick 'n tired of groupism here )
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| eNigma_too |
Posted
on 08-Oct-03 09:30 PM
oops...I mean dynamic IP address
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| Soleil |
Posted
on 08-Oct-03 09:43 PM
suuuiiiyyyyyyaaaaa... laaamo suskera.... kasto aapat... nakhau bhane din bhari ko shikaar.. khaun bhane kanchha bau ko anuhar bhanya yehi hola....lekhdina bhanda pani karr ball le lekhnai parne vivashta....yo kasto badhyata?
Kehi napayera "Doodhay kanchho" le sochya hola, Oys chill ko kaan ko barema lekhen bhane awasya sajha ma hal-chal machhinchha, manchhe khoob haanschhan. Aafu hero bhayinchha.
Shayad testo kehi bairi bhav narakhi hasyaspad roop le liyera pani lekhya huna sakchha. Oys chill ko kaan lai awalokan garda aafu ramro chhu bhanne aham bhav pani narakhya huna sakchha, kasaile mathi ko kurakani ma mantabya byakta gareko anusaar. Tara Doodhay kanchho bandhu, hajurma hasya ras ko kami bhayeko anubhav maile mahashoosh garein. Ma galat pani huna sakchhu, kina ki Ma maa hajurko jasto awalokan garne shakti chhaina. But, let me ask you this: Did you really feel great about picking on Oys's ear? Did that make your day? How would you feel if someone had ridiculed you? And especifically, the subject matter happens to be your birthday? I don't think you get the gist. Did you? That picture was featured there to honor Oys-Chill, and to wish him on his birthday. I am not saying what you did or said was wrong. Yes, you have the every right of freedom of speech. Just the way you said, rather the tonus was inappropriate. Maybe it's time you should start drinking milk, for real. Hamro nepali ma bhanai chha ni.. doodhay baalak kancho buddhi.. jaba samma buddhi bangara aaundaina buddhi pani aaundaina. Telling you friend, drinking milk with vitamin D and Calcium is really really essential to gain those "buddhi bangaaro".
Here is another speculation I made, not my own words but I derived from the above postings. We have the Freedom here in America that we do not have in Nepal. We have the speech of right. And no one can take away that Freedom. So very true, unquestionably. But, my question is: Can the manipulation and the exploitation of the Freedom be allowed, and if so, to what extent? I think one should really look up the dictionary and find the true meaning of freedom. My riddling puzzling enigmatic friend, if that small violation, rather abuse should I say(?), of freedom rights bothers you that much, and as you admitted it yourself that we do not have the same rights in Nepal, I suggest you should fight for that right, for Nepalese (if you call yourself one) and for Nepal. You wouldn't want to waste your valuable time arguing with illiterate, dumb and naive people like Czar, myself, or anyone else who have commented here. You seem very intelligent person.
Last but not least, Oyssssss... no matter what....beauty lies in the eyes of the beholder brother.. You are my Pbpb bhai... and once again....MANY MANY HAPPY RETURNS OF THE DAY.
Peace!!!
Czar hajur... dherai buddhiman manchhe haru thulo thulo kura sochhan ke...aba hajur le bhayeko satya kura gareko, testo diggaz magaz haru lai ke thaha ra bhanya....uniharu thulai hull(solution) nikalna khojchhan.....tesaile satyata ma pani traas dekhchan.. Dhamkai dekchhan.....Ke garnu...murkha dekhi daiva daraunchha bhanchha buda paka haru :P
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| czar |
Posted
on 08-Oct-03 09:55 PM
Enigma,
You are welcome to your disappointment. I do not play to the gallery nor have I come here to impress anyone. I do not claim superior intellectual prowess or infallibility. Far from it.
My strenuous objection is for people who come here and assume they have an INALIENABLE right granted by DIVINE DICTAT to do as they jolly well please. Sajha is a privately owned and operated web site as far as I know. San is STILL the sole owner of this site and can pull the plug on it any day he sees fit. If this has become a public entity, poste IPO, then I must have missed it.
If not, then Sir, I stand by what I have stated earlier. Bitter, yes. But the unvarnished truth nevertheless.
About airing of opinions ad nauseum: Wherein to attack others heedlessly, while waving about the flag of free speech, is a pathetic state of affairs. Arguably, the tenets of free speech are respected only WHEN they are conducted with SOME level of sensibility. I've observed vehement arguments about RIGHTS, but almost NOTHING about RESPONSIBILITIES. Might we pause to reflect upon them?
As a group here, we often seem incapable of exerting even some level of control and decency in our dealings with each other. This I have contemplated most sorrowfully.
It is amply evident that we are an extremely fractious lot, on par with the best of the best. Woe that it were something constructive we could all take pride in.
I have persistently stressed that we meet some level of decency and good taste. If, in doing so, I disappoint you or anyone else here, then I am afraid I will have to offer you a drink, but you will receive no apology from me. Good day to you, Sir.
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| phoenix |
Posted
on 08-Oct-03 10:02 PM
Hey people let's not get ugly over this... we don't have any right to judge a person and their appearance. And even if you do have any comments please keep it to your self.It is very rude .
I must appreciate Oys's calm answer and his ability to take these kind of things in his stride. By the way,i believe Oys can defend for himself .
By using words like "zip" ,"private","privilege","abuse"and "dismissal"...don't you think the public will be offended?
PEACE:)
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| sankaa |
Posted
on 08-Oct-03 10:02 PM
Nigman salay hinjada.. putooooooooo San dai means the guy who owns and puts a lot of dedication on this website which is a gathering place for open minded and educated people from all over the world.
a kukur like yo ualways bark..If someone was being mean to you on your birthday , i mean ever on a puto like you, i would be writing something similar like i did up there.
you ain't even worth to have argue with.. if a street dog like you bites someone, that somone won't bother to bite the street dog too... dyammmmnnn sick sick sick ......dyammmann you...
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| eNigma_too |
Posted
on 08-Oct-03 10:06 PM
Soleil..I did go through the dictionary..and say what ? I came up with these definations:
free·dom ( P ) Pronunciation Key (frdm)
n.
The condition of being free of restraints.
Exemption from an unpleasant or onerous condition: freedom from want.
The capacity to exercise choice; free will: We have the freedom to do as we please all afternoon.
Ease or facility of movement: loose sports clothing, giving the wearer freedom.
Frankness or boldness; lack of modesty or reserve: the new freedom in movies and novels.
The right to unrestricted use; full access: was given the freedom of their research facilities.
The right of enjoying all of the privileges of membership or citizenship: the freedom of the city.
A right or the power to engage in certain actions without control or interference: the seductive freedoms and excesses of the picaresque form (John W. Aldridge).
Ho..soleil, czar ..timi haro dherai, dehrai buddhima manche..yetti buddhiman ki kasaile kaan ko bare ma comment baryo bhandai ma tes lai BAN gari dina dhamki ani nachahido gaali barsaune.
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| Indisguise |
Posted
on 08-Oct-03 10:33 PM
khai oys ko pic kaha cha... its been ages that i have not come to sajha...anyone.. can ya pass me the link. was juss curiouse to see hanuman dhoka ko chor jasto manche herna hehehe.. kiddin oys broo... but pass me the link aiight.. peace.. Indisguise.
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| eNigma_too |
Posted
on 08-Oct-03 10:38 PM
Wherein to attack others heedlessly, while waving about the flag of free speech, is a pathetic state of affairs
Free speech here is to be understood in a different perspective. Though I totally denounce personal slandering and mean spirited attack..I don't think Milkman's hasitated attempt at his first posting calls for the rage fuelled vicious pounding of his character. All you so called "buddhiman haroo" try to weigh milkman's (now famous kaan) comment on one side and all the profanity laden slur thrown at him on the other..which one do you think will be heavier ?
Now, as about SAN dai..what do I do ? how do I repent for the sin , the sin of not knowing who San Dai is ....
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| sankaa |
Posted
on 08-Oct-03 10:51 PM
Enigma birader, why don't you make up your mind first on what you want to say?
chill bro, looks like you're not as stupid as you are acting up in here....
peace,
sankaa
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| eNigma_too |
Posted
on 08-Oct-03 11:06 PM
I am not any MIT, or Harvard educated, BNKS graduated guy..But this I know, Milkman didn't deserved to be thrashed like that..and all for a pair of ear !!
Would you guys have made such a hullabaloo if Milkman had made the comment on somebody else ?? No ! not at all..you self proclaimed "dherai buddhiman" people with big mouth and big talk about modernisation, development , let it be known ..thats not enough ..after all what really matters is whats in your heart..Oys_chill is known to you'll so the uproar else it had been just another post...pity thy hypocritic self..don't say no !! I can bring you dozens of moments when you have just remained an amused sajha member ...in face of injustice..just another brick in the wall..just another goddam brick in the wall..
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| sankaa |
Posted
on 09-Oct-03 02:29 AM
just another brick in the wall..just another goddam brick in the wall.. la la la la.. we don't need no edukaaisauonnn..... tuu tu taay taay tuu tuu taaay..
opps ...sorryyyy almost got carried away ........................
eNigma bru, your latest message is very emotionally appealing but fundamentally wrong. i don't know about others but speaking for myself, YES, I would be mad at milkman if he had said those things to you instead of Oys_chill.
I didn't get pissed cuz I''m a chamcha to OYs or I am from da east side or any other affiliation which you were trying to establish among the postees who wrote against the rude expression of milk man and you up there.
Friend, I know OYs_chill from the sajha kurakani board and the chat room. I like him a lot becuase he is for real. he stands out cuz he never fakes out like lots of people that i have seen in my life in this foreign country. And he has earned that love and respect in here broda with his good attidude , talents , and lovable characteristics.
have you read any of his postings on kurakani? have you chatted wid him on sajha chat? I can still not understand why someone would feel compelled to write such rude and stupid comments on such a good kid.
chill bro....
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| VincentBodega |
Posted
on 09-Oct-03 04:34 AM
Dude Milkman,
I think you just got out of the wrong side of the bed. It sucks to be you right now.
I dont know why people are so offended by his comment on the fact that Oys can actually be in another star wars movie. Heck I wish I had ears good enough to be a backup in a star wars movie.
Oys_Chill, you must be quite something. I will be honest with you, I am kinda jealous, but equally glad that theres still love and appreciating for something that should be appreciated in this world. Happy Belated Bday and yeah save those ears for your "chin chin" time.
-- BV
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| SITARA |
Posted
on 09-Oct-03 05:20 AM
Friends, Romans and Nepalese Milk men:
Lend me your ears! Actually, any pair will do at the moment; those that are functioning, I mean. Oys does have cute ears; perhaps milkman did not want to come off "gay-ish" in *noticing* a guy's anatomy! I thought (pardon my assumptions here) only gals had the knack for "seeing" and acknowledging details about guys! I am amused at the notion of some people taking the time to scrutinize Oys' picture and coming up with a pair of ears and lips!!!!
Enigma ji:
Might I assume that you are new here?
First, welcome!
Second, reading and understanding the words in red (above) would give you a better idea about the site.
Third, being an advocate for "freedom" is great, but the complexities accompanying the concept need to be understood first. Freedom without discipline is anarchy (any form: verbal, physical, social, political, mental......... the list is long).
Fourth, note that people are merely objecting to milkman and basanti's rudeness. We are hoping that "etiquette" does prevail in Sajha.
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| DWI |
Posted
on 09-Oct-03 05:44 AM
Right is right and wrong is wrong.
If you are a guy, Milkman, and are commenting on another guy's aesthetic feature, may be you should start watching that show: Queer Eye for Straight guy or something..you know what I mean.
It just sounds bltantly offensive, that's all. Good job Oys, for not letting this guy into your skin and for correctly handling the situation.
I second Czar and think this thread should be removed or such a poster should be banned.
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| ShaddY_CLowN |
Posted
on 09-Oct-03 06:17 AM
Who dare diss ma bro Oys bro up in our sajha hood? U shud know better than to be dissin anyone especially Oys bro who happens to be the coolest person around. Maybe ur problem was that u don't know him. Milkman you should apologize to Oys bro and settle this matter ASAP.
Thank you
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| Nattu |
Posted
on 09-Oct-03 07:09 AM
DUDHWAALA ,Shady brother is absolutely right. You can't go around dissin' people like OYS_CHILL. That is sooooooo not cool. By the way, I like you taking the charge here Shady bro. I see a very good leadership potential in you and Sajha needs you dude. Keep it up :-)
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| SimpleGal |
Posted
on 09-Oct-03 07:46 AM
I wonder where Milkman disappeared??? After igniting this fire that has become a huge conflagration now, he is nowhere in sight and leaves others speculating about his intentions behind Oys' ears.....Milkman! come out, come out, wherever you are!!! Be a man (milk or no milk) and face the task you have brought upon yourself dear sir!
Oys, you da diplomat! Kudos to you!! ;)
In peace.
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| San |
Posted
on 09-Oct-03 08:10 AM
In its course of existence, sajha has evolved a lot through experience. Users like yourselves who have participated in threads like these have moulded sajha into what it is today. There might have been a few occassions where everyone did not agree to the decisions that have been made, but in the long run they have worked out pretty well.
Here are my two cents on this thread:
- I had asked Oys if we should feature his pic for his birthday and he agreed to feature it for a day. In agreeing to feature their pic on sajha, everyone knows that potentially they can receive scrutiny like the one from our new member milkman. I am sure that oys was aware of this fact, and he had a thick enough skin to agree to it.
- Regarding removing this thread and considering it to be a breach of 'red text', I would not hesitate to do so IF oys had requested it. But, since oys has already posted a reply in which he has taken milkman's comments in a light hearted way, I find it unnecessary to remove this thread - since if it doesn't bother oys, it's not really a big deal
It would have been a big deal, if someone posted someone's picture and opened up a discussion about how they look, because that would not have been warranted. But, if someone agrees to be featured and people comment on their looks I think it is ok - AS LONG AS the person being featured is not offended. It is however NOT OK to hurl profanity towards someone who's being featured, nor at any anyone any time!
Having said this. It is very commendable that sajhaites are standing up for other sajhaites and it does give us a sense of a virtual community that sajha is aiming to build. Oys has also set a good example by subduing the negativity in milkman's comment through his positivity. Way to go!
I prefer not to make too many rules, since I want this place to be a self sustaining virtual community where everyone has respect for others. I would like sajha community to be guided by peace, love and harmony. Life is short, let's have fun while we can - without making anyone else feel bad. Shall we? - [from 'acceptable use policy']
Best Wishes,
San
(By the way, Hearty Welcome to all new members of sajha, and please feel free to contact me if I can be of any assistance or if you have any questions and/or comments.)
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| czar |
Posted
on 09-Oct-03 08:24 AM
Amen.
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| isolated freak |
Posted
on 09-Oct-03 09:21 AM
oys bro,
don't get discoraged by the "comment". I know you are not, but still couldn't help typing this. anyways, i liked the way you handled the whole thing.
sitara:
k cha?
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| najar |
Posted
on 09-Oct-03 09:27 AM
Oys_chill is one heck of a handsome, intelligent, modest, mature and smart guy...as czarji said if any of oys bashers posess even a tenth of oys ko quality nepali dharti will be proud.
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| Poonte |
Posted
on 09-Oct-03 11:15 AM
enigma_too,
kata tira po ho...kun thread ma po ho ...kolle po ho...kaslai po ho...quote garnu bhako thiyo ke:
YOUR RIGHT TO EXTEND YOUR ARM STOPS WHERE IT TOUCHES YOUR FRIEND'S NOSE!
Need I say anything more?
Oh, yes! My friend, the definition of FREEDOM is NOT limited to what is there in the dictionary only. If we were to comprehend and utilize freedom literally, ceteris paribus, we'd have anarchy and chaos in this world. FREEDOM, as in democracy, entails responsibility and self restraint based on civility.
Haina bhane, sathi...chhyam ki chhyam khukuri le gardhan chinyaundai hidam na ja-jasko paunchha tesko...freedom ko naam ma, hunna? Khai, khai...timro naak ma ni pyaacha hanum ta aek choti...mero freedom ko naam ma! :P
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| Suna |
Posted
on 09-Oct-03 12:59 PM
They say the size of man's umm manliness is judged by his ears! In that light, Oys made a conscious decision to paste his pic and by jove! he was right to do so!
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| Ruby |
Posted
on 09-Oct-03 01:40 PM
Some people are shameless! As soon as a person is featured, it is always followed by criticism. Nepali le Nepali lai dekhi sahandainan! That is why we're at the brink of civil war!
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| vishontar |
Posted
on 09-Oct-03 01:56 PM
Dear friends,
I don't know whether I should write something in this thread. Please forgive me if I am making any mistakes.
Brahmas which is considered as highest being of the beings in Hindu and Buddhist scriptures have symbolic figure with four faces. Do you know what each face represent? Mairti (friendliness), Karuna (compassion) , Mudita (sympathetic joy) and Upekshya (tolerance). These four qualities are knows as Brahma Bihar, where Brahma dwells. Since these four qualities are highly developed in Brahmas, they are considered highest beings. We human beings also have seeds of these four good qualities, Brahma Bihar.
All these four qualities are very rare in human beings, but Mudita (sympathetic joy) is even rarer. Mudita means to be joyful seeing others happy, to be joyful seeing others progress, to appreciate others happiness and progress with joy. Mudita is opposite of jealousy. If somebody has lack of this quality, jealousy arises on his/hers mind. Since jealousy is negativity it disturb the balance of mind makes restless, if restless is intense, one try to express through vocal action, one scolds, abuses, uses hard words etc, if it is most intense then vocal action is not sufficient and one uses physical action, tries to bit, tries to attack, even tries to kill. This is mental disease.
Every negativity first arises in the mind which leads to mental action like interest to harm others; this mental action leads to vocal action and finally physical action. So problem is not the person, problem is negativity, the person is in the fitter of the negativity and he/she is helpless. Nobody likes to be angry, nobody likes to be jealous, everybody wants to be good, but no way, negativities never let them to be. Negativities of our mind are so strong, they have become our master and we are like slave. Most of us even do not know that we are being played by our mental defilements. Actually personality is build up by the contents of negativities and their quantity.
If someone is wise, he/she will never react with some bodies negativities, because, reaction can never be the solution. If we can not solve the problem, we are part of the problem. Do you think that an angry person quit his anger if we remind him that he is expelling his anger? Never! He will rather get angrier. That can not be the solution. Those who are real wise they know that that is the problem of this conditioned mind, so they have compassion, sympathy with him/her. For them, the guy is suffering from mental disease and they will try to help him, if can not help, they will give him love and sympathy, and will remain silence. I want to give one example here, at the life time of Buddha,
Brahman Bharadwas was in his last 70's and he had 7 sons. The youngest son got married with a woman who were practicing Vipassana, the technique of mental purification. As her husband knew what she was practicing be became impressed and started to practice himself. Eventually her and all her sister and brother-in-laws also strated to practice it. They gave up their ritual and start to enjoy the peace of mind through Vipassana. Bharadwaj became furious, he went to Buddha abusing him, scolding him. As he reached to Buddha, the conversation was like this,
Buddha: Oh old man! How are you today and whom are you abusing to?
Bhardwaj: I am abusing you, you destroy our culture and religion, I want to break your head.
Buddha: Ok old man, before breaking my head let me ask you some questions,
Bhardwaj: No, I won?t listen to you at all, you are so clever and may change my mind. I am determined not to do anything without breaking your head.
Buddha: Just three questions old man, just three question!
Bhardwaj: Ok, whatsoever, I won't change my mind. Ask me!
Buddha: Do you host some guest sometime?
Bharwaj: Yes I do. We are householders, not beggar like you, we do expect guests.
Buddha: Do your guests come empty handed or bring some present.
Bhardwaj: they do bring presents you hairless, it has nothing to do with you!
Buddha: Whom does the present belongs if you don't accept it?
Bhardwaj: it belongs to the one who brought.
Buddha: Same here Bhardwaj, I don't accept your present of abuse, keep it with you.
Bharadwaj was wise, so he said
Bharadwaj: Oh Gautam! If somebody scolds us we have tradition of scolding back to him. You are saying that you don't accept the abuse. How did you learn this? Buddha said, oh old man come and sit, and I will teach you how to change negative mind to positive mind, how to change anger to love and jealousy to Joy. Brahman was very fortunate and learned it and became enlighten in no time.
I have applied this in my life and found the same result. Those who brings presents gets weaker and weaker and they got changed themselves. Gandhi had also applied this when he was in South Africa. Two white young man tried to bother him, his friend Charley scared but he won them by love. Inside every person there is positivity, more or less. So not accepting the "present" is best solution.
Monk Channa, the charioteer who helped Siddartha to run away from the Palace, generated so much ego and out of that he could not progress in meditation. Buddha, just before his death asked Anand to give Brahma Danda to Channa monk. Anand asked, what the Brahma Danda was, and then Buddha said be care free from him, let Channa do whatever he wanted. As Channa heard this, he found no reaction for his any action and got changed. He got enlightened soon after that.
No reaction is very heavy weapon; this weapon has capacity to change from bad to good.
I am friend of all, may my posting help to solve the problem, may this not be the cause of problem to any.
Oys Ji, I loved your picture, you looked handsome as well as kind and generous.
Vishontar
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| yimminyjeepers |
Posted
on 09-Oct-03 02:53 PM
"Did my heart love till now? Forswear it, sight! For I ne'er saw true beauty till [last] night!!" =)
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| Soleil |
Posted
on 09-Oct-03 04:19 PM
Okay Guys, Milkman or Doodhay Kanchho might have started the thread, that sparked the conflagration between the sajha visitors that led to the nonsensical arguments. Some were made with valid reasoning and logics, and some were not. But to my amazement, Milkman, the guy who initially ridiculed Oys about his ears hasn't said a darn word after that. And, who is being so defensive all along, and contradicting with his/her own principles and idealogies? It's an enigmatic question that puzzles and boggles my torpid mind. Anyways, I do not wish to dwell into that.
Once again my Enigmatic friend. I thank you for extracting the definition or rather, literary meaning of the terminology for me. Great Job!! but, you dissappoint me my friend. You fail to answer the second part of the query associated with that term. I guess you must have figured it out by now as so many fellow members have shared their viewpoint on the topic.
Dear Enigma, why are you getting so uptight now? So defensive? I felt a sense of inferiority complex, a sense of despair in your statements now. Weren't you were arguing, giving out explanations and preaching us all along about the freedom of speech of rights? And suddenly, it feels bad when someone doesn't agree with you and points his/her finger at you? Doesn't it? Brother, you got so lost into your own words, you are contradicting yourself.
Chill out brother. Life is full of imperfections, and it is too short to spend the whole time arguing. We can still agree on many things and have fun together, as a virtual community, as well as in person if you wish, given the time and the situation allows us. All in all, we're just another brick in the wall as you've said it. But, brother you're looking at the single brick whereas, I am looking at The Wall. Unite We Stand, Divided We Fall. Anyways, neither you can deny nor I can argue, that you are indeed an avid Pink Floyd fan.
Peace!! See you on the dark side of the moon.
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| intruder |
Posted
on 09-Oct-03 04:39 PM
I didn't notice Oys's ears on the piture...thought he's a cool looking kid. Like a base ball player from Santa Domingo..
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| eNigma_too |
Posted
on 09-Oct-03 11:08 PM
"The world, it seems, is people by sensitive souls, too weak to be confronted by strong opinions, controversial statements and provocative arguments. As a result we all have to live our lives as if in a church service - all hushed tones and reverential attitudes" Rightly said .
Milkman..this board certainly needs more people like you, a person with the boldness to point out the naked emperor. Though your comments were uncalled for, it nevertheless was an honest opinion, something which most of the so called "dherai buddhima" sajha members would only think and chuckle behind the back..but never dare to spit out less they hurt the kid..as it is ..the usual hypocrites..
The intensity with which oys_chill's friends and families pounched on you for your light humored, honest opinion was certainly a restriction on free speech. Why do all of Bush's caricatured cartoon has his ear inflated? you guys should be condemning the artist too.I am sure Oys_chill expected some remark when he posted his picture, or can he in his full honesty tell me he didn't ?? A big ear is a big ear is a big ear..so what ?? Nobody here has the perfect chiseled structure of a greek god. I have some imperfection in my feature too, and I take it completely as it is.. By creating the uproar about the comment you guys in some way or another accepted the fact !! If you had thought otherwise you would just have ignored the post, or simply replied with a "No , it doesn't look big", so if you accept the fact then why the knee-jerk reaction to Milkman's comment.
You can disagree with Milkman's views as reactionary, irrational or just plain wrong. But to deem it 'offensive' is to put it beyond the bounds of rational debate. Offensiveness is an affront to an entrenched tradition, one's emotional sensibilities that cannot be erased by reasoned argument. Censoring ""offensive"" views or ideas will not make them go away. It is simply a means of abrogating our responsibility for dealing with them
***Oys_chill....you know better then anybody that you are a good looking guy so nobody needs to defend you..you are not a kid that everybody has to shield you from the real world..you are a grown man..you know your potential..you know what you can do...My only problem is with the self proclaimed defender of morality and decency (which obvioucly is measured by their own yardstick)
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| Kalankisthan |
Posted
on 10-Oct-03 03:45 AM
Karayo karayo, dakshina harayo... eh.. lekhyo lekhyo lekhyo, ani post garda tyasko bau ko password maagera lekhya kura sappai gaayeb... eh... !!! Yessai tension bhai raa cha. Oys le starwars khelna laayera!! All the taruni's yessai runnin' after Oys, aba jhan ta starwars kehlyo pachi ke hune hola... Actually he is a perfect candidate for the StarWars: Episode 4 -- Moonwalk on the darkside of the Stars, since we all know Harrison Ford is gettin' older and older.. ehh...!!! He is a perfect candidate for Ford's role... eh (Porsche chadhera aaidine hola ni, eh.. Lovyauna, sajha ma - side ma taruni raakhera...StarWars khelyo pachi!!! grrrrrr)!
Make sure you superglue your ears, nothing but ears. Caution: Don't use superglue while you are in the toilet.. eh.. feri barbaad hola hehehe... Otherwise you will need black ice treatment not for your ears but something else.. eh (seems like I will need that black Ice treatment, eh.. Piti dela ni :P). Warning: Don't hang around with Padme Amidala while you are shootin' for StarWars... Padme sanga mero deep love parya cha ke.. ;) feri oys le mohani laai dela ni... eh. DO NOT GO NEAR PADME. eh. "I'll be Watchin' you".. eh.
On a serious note, those who have met Oys, know he is a great person. He doesn't need to prove himself in sajha. About Naak, kaan Ghaati, they talked about Brad Pitt and Tom Cruise's looks.... aba honewala superstar ko barema nagarla bhanne pani chaina. SUNA, are you sure about "the size of man's umm manliness is judged by his ears!"? jyaa... I have small ears... nahiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii!!!! That's why he gets alll the pretty ladies and I get haat laage sunna. (How i wish i had HUGE ears). eh.
Milkyman, Doodhwala? Doodh bechna chodera kaaa arkako roop ko kura gari raa ni... Gai ko doodh doohada kun angle ma gai herne ho.. eh... bistari bistari manche ko kaan pani gai ko thoon jasto dekhna thaalecha ... hari saranam. hahaha..Gai le back kick hancha ani.. Focus .. Focus.. eh (okay that was supposed to be a joke eh.)
I have a grave feelin' that Milkman is not a man... (no purush, but Mahapurush). Why? well, guys usually don't notice other guy's nose, ear, and LIPS? dayummm!!! They usually notice taruni ko naak, kaan, ooonth right? Hyaaa, katti lekhi raa, pugyo!!! Almost closed thread lai ke uchalai bho!!
laterz
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| Suna |
Posted
on 10-Oct-03 05:23 AM
Kalanki
hehe!
Oys does get all the pretty ladies hai??
;)
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| Disco |
Posted
on 10-Oct-03 07:41 AM
(limrick anyone??)
Milkman's gone negligible
as negligible as you know what!!
Oys Bro's in the frontline
as eligibly huge as
milkman's twat.
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| Poonte |
Posted
on 10-Oct-03 08:38 AM
enigna_too,
A simple opinion warrants respect, and should be protected by freedom of speech, hajur, I agree with you; but an OFFENSIVE opinion, simply because it calls for it, deserves a strong condemnation and and equally strong defense of the subject!
Once again, next time you flip the pages in your precious dictionary to check the meaning of the word FREEDOM, please do me a favor and flip some more pages and check out RESPONSIBILITY and CIVILITY as well.
FREEDOM, as in democracy, is much more than just about being completely free of restraints -- it's about aquiring the skill of using that freedom in a positive, responsible, and a respectable manner!
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| Soleil |
Posted
on 10-Oct-03 02:05 PM
Thank you poonte for answering the question pertaining to Freedom of rights I posed to our Enigmatic friend, he showed his erudite side by giving us the literary meaning of the terminology but failed to grasp the responsibility that comes along with it. He didn't mentioned it anywhere. I gave him hints the second time, it seems he is incapable to apprehend what we were refering to. Yet, as adamant and reluctant he is, he still goes on blabbering about rights. Then again, that's his right and we cannot take it away.
Now, brother Enigma. let me quote what you wrote above : "Milkman..this board certainly needs more people like you, a person with the boldness to point out the naked emperor. Though your comments were uncalled for, it nevertheless was an honest opinion, something which most of the so called "dherai buddhima" sajha members would only think and chuckle behind the back..but never dare to spit out less they hurt the kid..as it is ..the usual hypocrites.. "
A person with boldness to point out the naked emperor. And, my friend, you are that naked emperor. And what are we doing wrong here theorizing your very own statement? We are simply verbalizing our honest opinion, which may not look honest to your guilty conscious. Why are you being so defensive? Isn't it time now that you practice your own preachings? To make you understand, let me quote your statement once again. You wrote : "***Oys_chill....you know better then anybody that you are a good looking guy so nobody needs to defend you..you are not a kid that everybody has to shield you from the real world..you are a grown man..you know your potential..you know what you can do...My only problem is with the self proclaimed defender of morality and decency (which obvioucly is measured by their own yardstick) ***
Enigma, brother Milkman doesn't need anybody else to defend himself. He is capable of doing so, if he choses to be. Until now, he hasn't said a word. I think he is a wise man not to get into an argument, but he sure did ignited the fire. And my enigmatic friend, you are being so defensive on Milkman's behalf so restlessly from Day One. By your actions, are you not proclaiming yourself to be his defender of morality and decenc? Think about it. On the other hand, it just leads to a suspicion that you and Milkman;
indeed is a same person.
Enigma, I can see your plight, the maxim I quoted earlier in my comment impaled you a little hard. I can sense your agitation. Hey! that was an honest opinion.
Here's my conclusion : What milkman had said about Oys's ear, was a joke. Some people found it inappropriate, some found it offensive. The whole argument wouldn't have prolongated so far, had he simply appended another statement saying it was meant to be a joke and not to be taken seriously ( but that didn't happen.) Now, the real issue started, in my most humble opinion when you, brother Enigma, came out to Milkman's defense with your preachings on freedom of speech, and nary a word on it's RESPONSIBILITIES AND SELF RESTRAINT. That's when people started disagreeing with you. We are not trying to outsmart you, cause no one is perfect and no one is always right. There were somethings which you said were very true, no arguments on that, and somethings were not. That's where the argument was.
Let's put an end to it. Let's look forward for something in common where we all can have fun. Shall we?
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| eNigma_too |
Posted
on 10-Oct-03 11:39 PM
Hmmm...Soleil..I see some sense in that. Being little headstrong in an effort to make one's opinion prevail is not going to take this thread anywhere. I further stress that I do not derive any bit of pleasure by making fun of people. My only concern is free speech which I am all for, specially talking in context of a public domain. The fact that every individual has his/her own interpretation remains. Diversity of views and opinion has always existed, specially in a society that is not homogenous and grey and that is exactly why it remains vibrant.
yestai pani argue garda , garda thaki sake...
Note this: I take it as a pleasure to have interected with some really intelligent, sensible and cultured fellow countrymen.
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| Bhunte |
Posted
on 11-Oct-03 03:25 AM
eNigma_too wrote:
>>>>Poonte..all that poor guy wrote was a personal comment but on the lighter side..that is not any blasphemy !! or is it here in sajha ?? you guys were never meant to attend any stand-up comedy club ... too...too self conscious..too uptight to grasp a little harmless satire.. <<<<<<<<
I couldn't disagree with eNigma. I have been telling to this gentleman "Afno ang ko bhansi nadekhne le arka ko ang ko jumra dekchhha". You will see why in a separte thread....
P.S.: my comment in this thread refers only to Poonte. sorry
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| eNigma_too |
Posted
on 11-Oct-03 08:08 AM
BTW...Milkman and I, are two completely different entity...make no mistake about it...((reminds you of bush , huh ;-)
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| sankaa |
Posted
on 11-Oct-03 09:29 AM
shall we let this stupid thread rest now , please? eNigma bro, it's amazing to see your diffrenent messages in the same thread. honestly, i feel like it was written by at least 3 different people, if that is not true , then I am amazed to see how a person can change his face so many times.
In the first few messages you were fierce. You were calling me sissy, "pinche" to San dai and mad at Oys and blindly supporting Milkman. When everyone started throwing stones, thenyou slighlty became more sensitive and used the protection of Freedom of speech. However, that didn't work out pretty good either.
then in the later posts you were more emotionally appealing than anything else.
Your effort to find the defination of freedom in a dictionary and typing out here was a worthless attempt to prove your baseless argument, let me say that honestly and with due all respect, practicing some freedom of speech.
Friend, what right is right and what wrong is wrong? Milkman seems to have some personal dispute with OYs. I don't know about you, you might too,who knows.however, it's not right to attack anyone on his birthday in a public forum , that was all i was trying to say. I don' t know where freedom of speech and big big literature words came into play in this simple ethical idea.
From reading some of the latest messages from the thread , i have a big hope that you wouldn't take this message attacking and forgive me for my bluntness.
Thanks,
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| phateko_kattu |
Posted
on 11-Oct-03 01:14 PM
I dont see any reason why so many people are after milkman .He/she didnt find him attractive ,so whats wrong with him/her speaking mind .Infact in my point of view oys chill looks like ET with his peculiar ears .We just cant balloon him up by saying that he looks like hrithik roshan ,can we ?..if yes then that would be misleading .I look like humpty dumpty too .just have a look at the picture of a girl presently featured ..Electrica ...Whatta disaster .when will we realise that we nepalese are the ugliest creature in the world ?LOL
One person is particularly angry with milkman's comment . Poonte .I have never read such a negative comments by Poonte .Is he your gay partner or what ?[just kidding ]:-)
IN Jest ..
PK
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| Poonte |
Posted
on 11-Oct-03 02:36 PM
ehehehe...phateko_kattu...tyo kattu ko bhwang ajha thulo paardim ki ke ho? :P
OYS ra ma gay ta hoina, but we are pyaro dai-bhai in a "merry and gay" relationship re kya! ;)
Anyway, PK-jyu...I need not defend OYS anymore -- he has already responded to whoever MILKMAN is in a very eloquent, articulate and a respectful manner. However, talking about the ISSUES that were raised by this instance in Sajha, I still am bewildered by the fact that why and how some of the seemingly-educated people fail to see the difference between:
a. a simple opinion about something (which I would also vehemently defend under the pretext of the freedom of expression), and a blatantly offensive and brutal opinion on a personal level, and
b. humor within a context, and humor completely out of context (specially when MILKMAN has not even indicated anywhere that he meant it as a humor!)
That's all! Other than that, hey, I am also human -- I do get very angry at times. ;)
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| SimpleGal |
Posted
on 11-Oct-03 02:56 PM
Poonte dai,
Milkman, in another thread, QED, has disguised his comment under the pretext of a psychological experiment on forum addicts. You may want to check it...
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| Bhunte |
Posted
on 11-Oct-03 04:31 PM
Simple gal write:
"....Milkman, in another thread, QED, has disguised his comment under the pretext of a psychological experiment on forum addicts...."
Simplu,
Probably you might be interpolating me with your QED. I believe your math is wrong. My simple math here is I am was Bhunte, I am Bhunte, and I will always remain as Bhunte. I have no thing to offend or defend bro Oys. Pls just be cool. Over Janne analysis here don't work with me. You will be pleasently surprised to know what is in next thread. Wait for another 100 hours. Period till then.
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| Echoes |
Posted
on 11-Oct-03 06:55 PM
To me, this thread is nothing more than a clear manifestation of different camps (unnecessarily created) on this forum.
Oys is obviously a gentleman, and if you thought that you needed to defend (or offend, for that matter) him the way you did, my claim is that you didn't really know him. At least, not any more than Milkman, who got all the undeserved attention throughout.
I cant speak for Oys, but if I were him, I would be offended by the defenders just as much or more.
Why was it necessary for you to try to prove that Milkman's observation was morally wrong? Didn't you think that it was so obvious?
Sorry to be paranoid but I think all your participation on these types of threads does is promote more enmity and encourage abusers. So I humbly request posters to:
* stop posting pro-or-against any person on this thread (stop scapegoating innocent Oys); and
* not comment on (hence, segregate) any threads that are clearly intended for personal attacks.
I think only that will discourage those who you seem to be blaming for wrong-doing. Otherwise, I think you are just one of them.
--Pacifist.
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| KaLaNkIsThAn |
Posted
on 11-Oct-03 08:37 PM
Bhunte!
No offense, but have you gone 'nuts'?
Simple Girl is talking about "Agra" and you are talkin' about "Gagra"?
What's wrong with you dude? and whats up with that rudeness -- "Over Janne analysis here don't work with me". If her over analysis doesn't work for you then your over janne 'attitude' makes me go puke. Have you ever analysed your own replies? ...hangs my sanity by a thread... comeon dude, grow up!!
Probably you are right, "Afno ang ko bhansi nadekhne le arka ko ang ko jumra dekchhha".
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| KaLaNkIsThAn |
Posted
on 11-Oct-03 08:43 PM
BTW, isn't MILKMAN supposed to post that 'reply' rather than BHUNTE?
whats up with that? It would have made sense if milkman replied that...
Bhunte, are you a milkman? Jhukkera naam change garna ta birshya hoina? ;)
Just a thought, no offense!!! ;)
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| Bhunte |
Posted
on 11-Oct-03 09:06 PM
Kalanki,
Oh! I didnt realize that Milkman had another thread. Thanks for bringing up that here. If you read my first post in this thread and what simplu wrote earlier, i sensed she was trying to interpolate me with Milkman. People may have obviouly thought it is me as in Ktm a decade later thread, as Oys and myself had some differences earlier. For your kind info, I am not MILKMAN. I would rather prefer to defend or offend as Bhunte till last drop of blood if i have to. Hope, this clears up everyone's confusion.
Simplu, sorry for any misunderstanding...
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| sapphire |
Posted
on 11-Oct-03 09:11 PM
kaha ko kura kaha pugcha yo sajha ma ta lekhnai dar... jasoosi dherai , kura kam.....
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| Nasakine bho ba |
Posted
on 12-Oct-03 12:01 AM
What is the matter will all of you guys and gals, don't ye'll think this getting too nasty and draining our precious brain resources. If generating lassitude to the Sajha view exchange foci is the hidden agenda, then beware there are others who can defend it with all their might.
Stop with all these quixotic views and counter views and spare the readers of their agony.
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