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| ruby |
Posted
on 10-Oct-03 11:30 AM
1.Do you expect your husband/wife to be a virgin?
2.Do you expect your wife/husband to be a virgin, even though you have had sex?
3.If you are a virgin. would you marry a guy/girl who isnt?
4.Finally, if its an arranged marriage, would you ask her/him if they have had sex?
5. If they say yes, would you ask them whether they has taken or to take STD test before you make your decision? (would you want to see the results)
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| ruby |
Posted
on 10-Oct-03 11:32 AM
"Finally, if its an arranged marriage, would you ask her/him if they have had sex"
BEFORE you got married.
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| thugged out |
Posted
on 10-Oct-03 11:40 AM
1. I expect my wife to be a virgin. If she bleeds during the first day of intercourse, she has passed my test, else I'll have to annul my marriage.
2. Yes, I expect my wife to be a virgin, even though I am not a virgin. There is no double standards here, it's just a fact of life that men don't like their gifts already unwrapped by someone else.
3. Not applicable.
4. Yes, indeed, and that too before marriage. I'll also make her sign a prenuptial agreement just in case she has a knack for fibbing.
5. N/A. I am HIV+ myself, and in no way in hell am I letting my future wife know that I have the disease in me.
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| thugged out |
Posted
on 10-Oct-03 11:45 AM
Also, she needs to be well versed in Tantric sex and Kamasutra and be willling to explore and take risks. Menage, orgies, gangbangs, s&m, you name em, she needs to try all of em with me and mah homies.
*There are no double standards here
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| Pro |
Posted
on 10-Oct-03 12:44 PM
don't forget she has to have the tongue for poop
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| thugged out |
Posted
on 10-Oct-03 12:49 PM
Oh yes, indeed, how could I forgotten the scat eating fetish. How about golden showers yo?
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| khimu |
Posted
on 10-Oct-03 02:31 PM
dosen't matter to me
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| NepaliThito |
Posted
on 10-Oct-03 04:03 PM
1.Do you expect your husband/wife to be a virgin?
Nope, Time brings Changes. Learn to Live with it.
2.Do you expect your wife/husband to be a virgin, even though you have had sex?
No question. If i couldnot keep myself a virgin, then she also had her desires.
3.If you are a virgin. would you marry a guy/girl who isnt?
NOT applicable. But just a one cent suggestion who says no to this, "You Might Die Virgin"
4.Finally, if its an arranged marriage, would you ask her/him if they have had sex?
Thats not the question to be asked build a healthy relationship.There would be much more concern important than this.
5. If they say yes, would you ask them whether they has taken or to take STD test before you make your decision? (would you want to see the results)
No Way, what if they want the same. LOL
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Any way Ruby this is the nice topic to discuss about.
Keep up the good job.
Cheers
NepaliThito
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| dream_girl |
Posted
on 10-Oct-03 04:34 PM
Ruby,
Here are my answers:
1.Do you expect your husband to be a virgin?
It all depends..maybe Yes...
2.Do you expect your husband to be a virgin, even though you have had sex?
I haven't ..what do yuo mean....
3.If you are a virgin. would you marry a guy who isnt?
I will probably..there are very few guys who aren't...
4.Finally, if its an arranged marriage, would you ask him if they have had sex?
I don't think this is important...I really mean it..past is past...
5. If they say yes, would you ask them whether they has taken or to take STD test before you make your decision? (would you want to see the results)
As 4q doesnot exist so this doesnot make sens..but if my hune wala askes me the question, I won't hesitate to backfire the same question..how do you think this is?
I will not ask from my side but if he askes then I might ask too..ke farak parcha ra...I am not the simple ghar buhari wali..I can show how much I can do..heheh
with love at all in sajha,
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| thugged out |
Posted
on 10-Oct-03 04:42 PM
So then dreamgirl, you're a virgin? What does it feel like to be a virgin? I am very curious to know. Specifically, I wanna know how you've been "holding it"? Did ex-lax do the trick?
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| Nattu |
Posted
on 10-Oct-03 09:13 PM
1.Do you expect your husband/wife to be a virgin?
- Hell, No. I wouldn't even dare asking. What if she ask me the same
question back?? I rather like to follow " Don't ask - Don't tell" policy on this kind of
sensitive issues.
2.Do you expect your wife/husband to be a virgin, even though you have had sex?
- Does it matter ?? One way or the other, I'm gonna have sex with my wife no matter
what. Anyway, to answer ur question, NO I don't expect my wife to be a virgin but
that doesn't mean that I'm encouraging all the virgin girls ( including my future wife...
YES You Madam!!) to go out and have sex just because I don't care.
3.If you are a virgin. would you marry a guy/girl who isnt?
- I wish. I'm not gonna even bother answer this question because it is irrelevant to
me. On a second thought, YES I would marry a girl who isn't a virgin to some extent.
4.Finally, if its an arranged marriage, would you ask her/him if they have had sex?
- I'm a Romantic guy. I don't ask questions like that. FYI, that is considered RUDE in
our culture. Don't ask - Don't tell is my policy.
5. If they say yes, would you ask them whether they has taken or to take STD test before you make your decision? (would you want to see the results)
- Naaaaaah, it is kinda awkward to ask directly to show their STD test. I rather like to
know if the sex was SAFE instead.
6. Finally, if its an arranged marriage, would you ask her/him if they have had sex"
BEFORE you got married.
- I'ven't given too much thought on arranged marriage yet. I don't know, what I'll do.
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| Rosie |
Posted
on 10-Oct-03 09:55 PM
I wouldn't mind if my husband wasn't a virgin. Since I am a virgin myself, we would be totally clueless as to how to proceed if both of us were virgins...lol...However, that doesn't mean that the guy should be a player and should have been around the block with every girl. About asking a guy if he has had sex or not before, I think you can always tell if a guy is a virgin or not. However in the past, I have asked guys that I have dated if they have had sex or not...it can be a fun conversation if both of you have a friendly as well as a romantic relationship.
To shift gears, one thing I just can't stand about guys is how they sometimes get soooo horny and try to step boundaries...that gets me MAD!!!
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| Rekha |
Posted
on 10-Oct-03 10:14 PM
1.Do you expect your husband/wife to be a virgin?
I would like him to be but if he isn't then there is nothing I can do about it.
2.Do you expect your wife/husband to be a virgin, even though you have had sex?
If I'm not virgin then I don't expect him to be one too. He's a guy he has desire and it's past so why worry
3.If you are a virgin. would you marry a guy/girl who isnt?
Of course because I would marry a guy who I'm in love with and virgin or not virgin I'll love him as he is so it won't matter.
4.Finally, if its an arranged marriage, would you ask her/him if they have had sex?
I would never have arrange marrige but to answer this question NO I would not ask coz I would be married to him so there is no point
5. If they say yes, would you ask them whether they has taken or to take STD test before you make your decision? (would you want to see the results)
No I would not ask him but if he doesn't mind I would like both of us to go to clinic and get checked up sometime.
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| Nattu |
Posted
on 11-Oct-03 06:33 AM
Hi Rekha,
I really like your answer on question #3 because you said " I would marry a guy who I'm in love with and virgin or not virgin, I'll love love him as he is so it won't matter". That is so sweet. You're the first one who has mentioned the word LOVE on this thread and has forced me to think " wait a minute, what about LOVE??" You've helped me realize maybe LOVE is more important than virginity and .........why not?? It should be.
What can I say?? I'm truly, madly and deeply in LOVE with ur answer :-)
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| SimpleGal |
Posted
on 11-Oct-03 09:47 AM
Interesting questions.
Virginity, it seems, is largely conceptualized as a physiological indicator of something that has more of an emotional component to it. As one of the posters mentioned above, if his wife doesn't bleed on the night of their intercourse, she is not considered to be a virgin. That is the traditional understanding and sign of virginity for a woman. However, people should also know that the hymen in women, which is what breaks during intercourse, is not a reliable indicator of a woman's virginity. There are various other ways in which a woman's hymen can break. Should a woman whose hymen broke for other reasons, if the aforementioned poster and his lot marries her, be branded "non-virgin" or worse, other derogatory labels? The myth about hymen breaking during intercourse alone should be dispelled. Virginity is more of an emotional faithfulness to your partner than something circumscribed within physiological parameters/discriptors. When you decide, esp. in the context of marriage, to devote yourself to someone wholeheartedly, the onus is on YOU and your partner to know and show through your emotional dedications whether you are virgins or not. Otherwise, a speck of blood should not be the sole verdict!!
Happy Saturday, everyone! :)
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| forget-me-not |
Posted
on 11-Oct-03 10:09 AM
Ruby,
To me its not a big deal. Even if I am a virgin when I get married ( I still don't know when) I am not expecting the same from my partner.
I will dfinitely not ask her for that.....either and don't expect either.
What is important is the present and future not past....
kasto lagyo ta....?
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| Nattu |
Posted
on 11-Oct-03 10:25 AM
Can we please not talk about bleeding and stuff. That is disgusting. The guys who have already made plans to check if their wives are bleeding or not, are SICK. I don't find that very Romantic. What a turn off :-(
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| sankaa |
Posted
on 11-Oct-03 10:30 AM
good points simple girl.
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| MohanGopal |
Posted
on 11-Oct-03 11:15 AM
Virginity, whethere it is a man or a woman is profoundly important in a civic society. If you sleep with more than one woman or a man then we human beings are no better than an aminal. we have conscience and we can distinguish between right and wrong. that is why we are human beings and not animals. If you start having sex with more than one, then you might as well do your own family members, because you are no better than an animals.
And to those gays, put your sticks or pots where they belong. You try forcing something that is not natural, will break. I am sure you know that very well.
MG
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| vishontar |
Posted
on 13-Oct-03 10:36 PM
Dear Ruby,
I was very much interested to write in this thread but I make it on time, sorry for late. I always analyze the problem and go to the root of it. Thats why my postings are mostly long sorry for that. The root of these questions is virginity. What for virginity?
It is found that a great research was done for ceasing the suffering in the rare past. Many Buddhas, many Rishis, Munis, Profets worked in this field and concluded that the cause of suffering is nothing but the impurity of mind. As the impurity is removed, there will be no suffering. To remove the impurity first you should recognize the impurity, to recognize the impurity you should concentrate on yourself. ie concentration of mind is necessary for the purification. So far you are doing some big mistakes like killing, stealing, sexual misconduct etc, you will find big storm in your mind and it will be very tough to concentrate. So they discovered that the following five principles are prerequisites for the concentration of mind.
1. Not to kill
2. Not to steal
3. Not to have sexual misconduct
4. Not to lie
5. Not to be intoxicated
(These five are known as Pancha Sila in Buddhas teaching. These five lies inside Ten Commandments of Bible of Judaism and Christianity, they are known as Anubarta in Jainism and Yem Niyam in Hinduism. You can see these five principles within Koran of Islam.)
If any one of these five foundation stones is shaken, it is almost impossible to concentrate the mind. If you are involved in killing, stealing, sexual misconduct, lying and intoxication or any one of them, you can never concentrate your mind. If you can not concentrate, you can not remove the impurities and so far impurities are there, there is always stress in mind and stressed mind is miserable mind.
So stronger the five foundations, stronger the concentration and better the purification, this is complete and pure path of liberation from all the miseries.
Because every individual need peace and harmony, each individual has to practice these five precepts, hence the wise people of those times modeled the social structure such a way that people get opportunity to practice these five precepts since their childhood and every step of life. The concept of virginity came from the third precepts, ie not to have sexual misconduct, they named it as Brahmacharya, act of supreme being Brahma. For householders, to have sex other than ones spouse is misconduct.
In society, virgin people were worshiped (kumari tradition is leftover, victoria era in west), virginity were praised its for the complete scientific reason not for rites, rituals and dogmas. Those who have sexual misconducts lose balance of their mind and get mentally stressed. Those who practice Brahmacharya with interest are mentally as well as physically sound. Suppressed Brahmacharya does not work, if you are observing Bramacharya just for social fear and having sex in your mind that is suppressed Brahmacharya.
I know from my own experience. I have observed suppressed Brahmacharya before I started meditation, I dont think that this was pure Brahmacharya because I used to suffer from the lust and to come out of it I used to masturbate. I know realize that this is also a sexual misconduct. Why? What sexual misconduct does is, it increases passion or lust. More you practice it more passion will increase, masturbation is also causing passion to increase, so it is misconduct.
I know the life of forced Brahamacharya, it was so painful and miserable, this life is same as the life of sexual misconduct. As I practiced purification of mind, passion and lust get decreased to some extent and natural Brahmacharya happened which I am enjoying. Some people ask me, what is the taste of life if there is no passion, passion makes the life fun? What I found is passion makes us restless; its not the passion which gives pleasure, sensual pleasure is there whether passion or no passion. they are lust and passion which keep bothering us, they cause to lose the balance of mind and you go restless. But as you decrease the quantity of lust and passion from your mind, your mind will remain balance and you will be able to maintain the peace of mind. This is simple law of nature, which is not a mere theory for me, I have experienced it.
So maintaining virginity is not for others, for us, whoever maintains it will get peace of mind. Practice virginity with enthusiasm and get peace of mind by then and there. Practicing virginity is well appraisable. You must be thinking that why I am giving such an importance to peace of mind, well, if you are real wise you will look only for peace of mind in your whole life.
Those who want peace of mind or happiness must kill the mental defilements, for these one has to observe all five precepts not only sexual misconduct. Law of nature is same for one and all. Peace of mind is bound to come if one practices these precepts.
Western world is almost open for the sex. Western people thinks that the organized religions banned the sex simply because to keep society in right shape. They consider sex is the greatest source of pleasure and it should not be suppressed. They take it as biological need like food. Because of this they think themselves forerunner and other world has yet to follow them. In fact, its not the biological need like food, its emotional need, it exists only if emotions exist, emotions can be regulated and destroyed for ever.
contd....................
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| vishontar |
Posted
on 13-Oct-03 10:36 PM
Where as eastern world is still suppressing the sex, eastern people think they are civilized in this sense and western world goes wild. Suppressing sex equally dangerous as the open sex, suppressed sex blasts and invites disasters like rapping, hysteria etc where as open sex increase mental negativities like passion and lust which generate mental stress. Suppressed sex has direct consequences in the society so political leaders make the laws of prostitute feeble in highly populated urban areas.
If you explore inside you, you will notice, both easterner as well as westerners are wrong. Easterners are holding and extinguished flame where as westerners are holding the mirror stick, both are lightless. Free sex as well as suppressed sex both are equally harmful for the balance of mind which is utmost necessary for happiness. Happiness is pure mental state, it has nothing to do with external conditions. Wherever you are, whoever you are, you will be happy if your mind is free from defilement or possesses less defilement.
This was background to answer your questions, let me answer them:
1. Do you expect your husband/wife to be a virgin?
Ans: I dont expect. But I expect she will have disciplined sex life after marriage, ie with spouse only.
2.Do you expect your wife/husband to be a virgin, even though you have had sex? Ans: N/A
3. if you are a virgin. would you marry a guy/girl who isnt?
Ans: Yes, I will. Society has extended this precept too much ignoring other four. Because of the conditioned mind, people in the society give more importance to this precept only. My mind is not conditioned from social beliefs, I give importance to all five precepts equally, I will help her to follow all the precepts for the betterment of our life.
Society, friends , temptations and some situations cause people to walk in wrong path, but if one has interest to walk in right path one can leave the mistake forever. All we are imperfect, we have done lot many wrong things may be different from each other. I smoked for about 6 years, thanks to meditation I could quiet it, that is also a mistake, but society stock small label on it than the sexual misconduct. I have killed so many animals when I was teen because of the culture and environment, which is also sinful, as sinful as sexual misconduct. But our society praise it, funny! Later on when my mind get purified to some extent, love and compassion arise in my mind and I cried for those animals that I had hurt or harmed.
4.Finally, if its an arranged marriage, would you ask her/him if they have had sex?
Ans: I dont give importance to useless past. Past does not exist, so I ignore it and always gives important to the present. I will ask her to cultivate piety for hers as well as mine welfare, husband and wife shares the same life, if one did wrong another suffers.
My wife won' t hegitate to say truth because I love truth, no shame to say truth but shame to do wrong and to repeat mistake.
5. If they say yes, would you ask them whether they has taken or to take STD test before you make your decision? (would you want to see the results)
Ans: N/A, but I leave most of the things for my luck, ie fruit of my Karmas. I abstain from doing wrong so expect positive results. But sometime I do get bitter fruits, thanks to meditation, I dont be bothered. I know myself well, such big disaster wont be happened in my life, I have confident on my pious Karmas.
6. will I ask her whether she is virgin before marriage?
Ans: No. I will ask her if she wants to share something with me from her past. I will ask her whether she is willing to follow all five precepts. I am pretty sure I will have someone wise for me.
I have seen many friends wants virgin spouse. Virgin spouse is not that important, what is more important is to be virgin, ie, to leave sexual misconduct. I dont have any pride of being virgin, but I guard my all five precepts with my best. I got a lot many chances to break the precepts but I did not misuse the opportunity, because, peace of mind is most important for me.
My message to unmarried friends: Learn concentration and purification of mind to live perceptive life, a wonderful happy life free from worry and tension. Dont suppress, but follow precepts enthusiastically and get peace of mind, love someone, but dont misuse the love, extend it till committed relationship of life partner.
Message to married friends:
I highly recommend learning purification and concentration of mind for both of you. dont use whole time for food, cloth, shelter (whatever cozy food you are eating, cozy house you have, and fashion you are using, all are nothing more than food, cloth and shelter) only, spare some time for your happiness, that will come from purified mind, no other ways, trust me. follow as strictly as you can the five precepts and never do the sexual misconduct, you are not excused at all. Mistake of one create hell for other, no mistake. Even one of you is weak, dont get angry, try to love, love can change the person. I believe to help partners to correct spouses weaknesses is one of the greatest pious job. I recommend you one French movie, &&&&&&&and God created woman .
Eventually, married or unmarried each individual has to practice to eradicate to eradicate the mental impurieties like lust and passion for blessed mind.
Vishontar
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| gharmigirl |
Posted
on 14-Oct-03 12:44 PM
Wanting a woman to be virgin and all the double standards are just maneuvers for a male dominated society to demonstrate power and control over a woman's reproductive rights and what sets of genes will get advanced or not.
As for the poster who jokingly (well, maybe it was jokingly) said he would not tell his would-be wife he has HIV+, I'm glad not to be marrying you. Not b/c of the HIV status but because of the dishonesty. If you are unable to be honest on that level of intimacy, the intimacy that is the requiremenet of marriage, then how would you be able to honestly discuss other matters.
Marriage is about honesty and developing emotional and physical intimacy with a partner. This double standard is just a form of power and control, mostly over women.
just my opinion.
gg
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| sankaa |
Posted
on 14-Oct-03 12:50 PM
grahmi ji, Who is this ? is this real grahmi or her amerikan sister? hehe anyways, i totally agree with you ; honest is the the best policy...
take care
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| gharmigirl |
Posted
on 14-Oct-03 01:39 PM
it is gharmigirl and my response was influenced by wonderful book I just finished.
Woman: An Intimate Geography
by Natalie Angier
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| czar |
Posted
on 14-Oct-03 02:20 PM
"In society, virgin people were worshiped (kumari tradition is leftover, victoria era in west), virginity were praised its for the complete scientific reason not for rites, rituals and dogmas"
Victorian era morals had nothing to do with Kumari worship. As I understand it, the Kumari tradition was formulated by the Newar priests of Kathmandu valley to stop marauding Malla rulers and their court from preying on younger female subjects.
The creation of an elaborate religious ritual that involved homage by the ruler culminated from a successful strategy that enforced acknowledgement and acceptance of the sanctity of young girls.
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| thugged out |
Posted
on 14-Oct-03 02:32 PM
"I'm glad not to be marrying you"
Don't be too sure gharmibabe. Like HIV, my lop is infectious, the difference being that the latter I ooze is airborne. As someone said, lop is in the air.
You're lucky you're not that close to me right now, or else, in a week's time you and I would be sharing the same bed, after tying the knot, darling.
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| south |
Posted
on 14-Oct-03 04:44 PM
1. yes i do.
2. i am virgin, so of course i do. i am keeping my virginity for my spouse. but to answer your question i should say not applicable to me.
3. well i can not tell if she is virgin or not just by seeing her face. of course i would like to marry a virgin girl. i think past predicts future in most of the cases, so if she has had physical relationship before marrying me, who knows may be number of times, how can i be sure she wont after marrying me. i can not tolerate this after marriage.
4. well these days arrange marriage are not like our parents days so we will get time to know each other and i will definitely ask her about her past life. there is also a possibility that she is marrying me because her parents wants to and she loves someone else. i would not like to marry her. its not good for her and me as well. i want someone who loves me and only me and honest to me and i will definitely do same( only her).
5. well if answer of 4 is yes then i might not go to 5th question. if i have to then i want those tests.
i have a friend who is a medical doctor and according to him it is very rare that the hymen of ladies get break without intercourse. according to him it is inside ( i dont know exact depth) and how can it be break?
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| as101 |
Posted
on 14-Oct-03 08:32 PM
Yes, I do mine she is virgine or not
What is the point of getting marry if i have to marry some used women.
Lets look at this way buy a brand new car just coming out fractor or used old crapy car
you all think about it
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| ameeshaa |
Posted
on 14-Oct-03 09:57 PM
well as101, ru new car or used one?
for me, i don't care about past.
i think, if u wanna to be vergin till your marriage, then u deserve virgin partner.if u cann't, then why do u expect virgin partner.
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| deepak_bista |
Posted
on 15-Oct-03 12:40 AM
The Body And Sexuality
Foucault wrote on the impact of institutional and discursive forces on the body, particularly in books such as The History of Sexuality (1978-1986). He suggests that the body should be seen as the focus of a number of discrsive pressures; the body is the site on which discourses are enacted and where they are contested. He also analysed, in The Order of Things (1970) and in Discipline and Punish 91977), the changes consequent on the academic and governmental analysis of the population as a whole, what he terms 'bio-power', that is, the 'increasing organisation of population and welfare for the sake of increased force and productivity.'
His analysis on the interaction between the body and institutions has been very influential among feminists and the Queer theorists from the 1980s onwards. Jana Sawicki suggets a reason:
"among the many influential French theorists Foucault was distinct in so far as his aim was to intervene in specific struggles of disenfranhised and socially suspect groups such as prisoners, mental patients and homosexuals. In so far as Foucault's discourse appeared to be more activist and less narrowly academic than those of his post-structuralist counterparts, it compelled activist feminist to take a serious look at his work."
Thus, theorists of marginalised group like the non-Nepali virgins have found his work useful because it lends itself to being put to use in a political cause. I am ashamed of the male zingo paternal expression outpoured in these childish discussion. I think to have sex with non virgin is more pleasurable than the painful intercourse with the so called Nepali virgin. I do not have time to taech a virgin about sex....Do you have time as it becomes painful participation ! What do you think ?
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| Neural |
Posted
on 15-Oct-03 02:33 AM
I ve been going thru' this thread but can't stop myself after reading the post by as101.
How come one can compare a girl with a car???
All human has his/her past. Some might've dark past, whereas some with enchanting moments and lasting memories. In my personal view, if I love somebody, i don care her past. A true love makes one not only to accept the pluses but also the negative aspects of his/her partner.
Hence, " USED CAR, USED WOMAN" not applicable to me. Moreover, here, at my place, we have to throw the car in dustbin when it is over used and doesn't satisfy the condition provided by the Govt. So? wat u gonna do as101???
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| Neural |
Posted
on 15-Oct-03 02:37 AM
Furthermore, i din't know that one goes after marriage to break the virginity. This definition of Marriage is not in my SHABDAKOSH. Wat is meant by MARRIAGE? is it only for sex????
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| KaLaNkIsThAn |
Posted
on 15-Oct-03 03:54 AM
Used car... LOL!
If there is an Used car and a New car, then there must be something in between!! Or not? okay I am confused!!
Now byaaabiiii, Can I have it MEDIUM WELL???
BTW, I am neither married nor a possessor of SABDHAKOSH! eh...
(vishnotar lai chai mannai parcha, chadke salaam ;))
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| czar |
Posted
on 15-Oct-03 05:31 AM
Analogy of women and cars ....
A good paint job can hide the age.. But the lines tell the story !
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| KaLaNkIsThAn |
Posted
on 15-Oct-03 07:07 AM
Czar bru,
I like your analogy. hehe!!
BTW, Even a new car is not exactly a new car, is it?
Some fragments of mile are used for a test drive anyway!!
It's how smooth the car drives, and how long it runs without showin' any nakharas, matters!! eh...
I'd rather go for nakhara free used car than a brand new car!! eh...
Having said that, I feel like I am a tire -- a tubeless one!! (I don't wanna depend upon tube to inflate and deflate myself eh)!!
Khoi ke ke ke ke!
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| Rusty |
Posted
on 15-Oct-03 07:48 AM
LOL Kalanki mora:)
Hare hare!!! K ho yesto..analogy of women and cars..
well, then how many guys are getting new cars ? Since I can't afford the brand new car, I must go with a used one:P ...LOL. Damn, so many things to look at.. how many onwers? milage? Year? Make? Model? Carfax.com history? lol.... Also.. how bout those who only use subway trains...shared means of transportation;)
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| hansy420 |
Posted
on 15-Oct-03 08:42 AM
Beware of salvage title!!
they are very hard to get rid of.....
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| patali |
Posted
on 15-Oct-03 09:36 AM
hare shiba shiba...yo kaliyug ma ke sunnu paryo yasto.......ke ho women ko ta aaba car ma compare.....hai ram!!! kya sunna padha......
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| SITARA |
Posted
on 15-Oct-03 10:15 AM
To those marrying cars: It becomes a depreciating commodity at the moment of purchase; a debt and a liability!
To those marrying a woman: You can make it a mutually beneficial partnership; the choice is yours!
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| patali |
Posted
on 15-Oct-03 10:19 AM
Exactly.......I like it....thankyou sitara ji.....guys....kehi siknu ..kehi bujhnu......sitaraji ko thread bata.....
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| czar |
Posted
on 15-Oct-03 10:24 AM
An fellers, the paatnaship rules are:
Shaddup, Shiddown an Shell out!
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| gharmigirl |
Posted
on 15-Oct-03 10:46 AM
Thugged out Daaaaarling, you are too funny for words. What is lop anyway?
If you were lucky enough to be near me, youd be wishing and dreaming you were in bed after tying the knot, regardless of your infectious lop. Instead, you and I forever knotless, youd be having intimate contact with Ms. Rosie Palm and her five hairy sisters, no matter how infectious your lop is; bottom line is inability to be truthful is good vaccine for infectious lop.
As for those gentle brothers comparing women to cars. . . well, the comparison is a two-way street. Consider how much mileage you are riding around with and whether or not you need a complete overhaul or a lube job or an indepth exam by mechanic yourself before you try to match yourself to new cars, or gently used cars, or whatever phrase you want to attribute to women with experience. Once again, that double standard where its ok for the brothers to have some experience and not OK for the sisters goes back to the power and control thing. Its also sign of immaturity that some brothers want virgins (little girls or inexperienced women) when they themselves are not virgins. I mean, lets get real in it takes two to do this mambo or drive this hymenway, so if you are traveling down this road, you are doing it with someone else. If men and women are truly equal, then it wouldnt matter how much mileage on is anyones carcass so long as a deep emotional connection is made and each partner in marriage looks out for best interest of the other.
Sitara sis, you always say it best.
gg
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| KaLaNkIsThAn |
Posted
on 15-Oct-03 01:02 PM
I didn't compare woman to a car, did I?
Car could be both women and men!!
Women le matrai virgin hune thekka lyaa cha ki kyaa ho? hehehe (I know this line sounds rude... dil pe mattt le yaaaar) ;)
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| SITARA |
Posted
on 15-Oct-03 02:00 PM
Posted on 10-15-03 10:24 AM Reply | Notify Admin
"an fellers, the paatnaship rules are:
Shaddup, Shiddown an Shell out! " Czar
Czar ji:
Surely, a piece of junk you picked up! What happened, sire, lust took over your cognitive skills? :P
Patali and GG:
Girls rule ofcourse! ;)
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| czar |
Posted
on 15-Oct-03 02:19 PM
Junk ? Ooh, sailing on a silvery moonlit night off the Pearl River Delta. Bien sur ! Cantonese or Shangai cuisine ?
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| thugged out |
Posted
on 15-Oct-03 02:34 PM
Ho ho ho ho ho, good one gharmibabe. I guess if I manage to date rosie palm and her five sisters, I hope you too end up makin' waves for the man-in-the-boat, darling. If you need help strumming your banjo, oh darling gharmibabe, just take my name, and, like a genie in a bottle who's always willing to do his master's bidding, I'll be there for you!
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| as101 |
Posted
on 15-Oct-03 02:36 PM
viginity sure like new or used car
once u bought and driven few miles that is car used virginity is gone.
belive me guys out there is there is sure big different between marrying a women who is V or non -V. Past always predicts the future
single owership is definetly better than malti ownership............
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| lonely |
Posted
on 15-Oct-03 05:34 PM
as101...
ke ho testo idea..how about experienced driver as well?
car ko matrai kura nagaru hola...how is the driver...do you want an inexperienced driver or a well experienced one??? That I think is a major issue than anything else
But if you are desperately looking for a virgin and you yourself not, then to tell you honestly you don't deserve one....
garmigal I like what you wrote and not to forget Sitara...always good on thought...
To me this is not a very important issue, past is past..but what is important is present and future....brand new car bhandai ma kle garnu, if it doesnot last long???? Baru..second hand nai thik..if it can go a long way haina ra????
always lonely,
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| vishontar |
Posted
on 15-Oct-03 06:34 PM
czer Ji,
Good point, I know kumari tradition started in Malla era, but it was not the new concept that was suddenly croped up. There were such tradition in practice, for example, Patibrata. Patibrata was another silly idea of extension of the precepts. All five precepts are equally important, but some people pulled any one of them to the extremity. Sexual misconduct was pulled upto Sati tradition where woman must die with her husband, she has no chance left to have sexual misconduct. It was pulled up to Patibrata tradition where some woman used to take a vow to see the face of one and only one man ie her husband. The day when she saw the face of any other man even accidentely, she killed herself. This tradition was mainly come after the Islamic attack in India, and could not influence the big mass becasue it was feasible for the woman of working class. But sati tradition prevailed for long time, thanks to British who eradicated from India and ask Rana priminister to eradicate from Nepal.
Victoria era has to do nothing with the Kumari tradition, I agree with you. I just wanted to show the extreme extension of the precept in two different world. In victoria era, tables, chairs and desks were also be dressed. This was the time when orthodox christianity was declining and new branches of christianities were developing. This was also one of the extreme extension of one of the ten commendments, "Thou shalt not commit adultary".
It is because of the scientific reason, absolutely scientific reason. One who commit adultary will lose the balance of mind, this is truth. That's the reason why the sexual misconduct is avoided by society and not taken as the wrong tradition. One who has practiced concentration and purification of mind will notice how sexual misconduct brings storm in the mind and drive it wild. Sexual misconduct is big disease for peace loving people.
czar, your english is very good and your postings are appreciable.
Kalanki Ji,
I am very happy that you appreciate me, I took it as a compliment. Many of us have very fixed mind about virginity due to the culture we grow. I am one of the barristers of the not to commit sexual misconduct, I strictly follow this in my life and its not for the praise that I will get from the society, it's for myself, I will get peace of mind. But, I don't have the mind which is hypnotised by the society anymore. I will never encourage the sexual misconduct but I never discourage who has done the sexual misconduct out of ignorence.
Think yoursef, if you have never experienced the peace of mind, you will see there is nothing wrong with sexual misconduct, because you will never see the difference. You will think that this is one of the wrong imposition of the society and product of some crazy mind, won't you? You will get pleasure from sex and get temperary relief from restlessness, and it seems there is no advantage of not having sex.
If someone is unable to see the disadvantage of sexual misconduct, this is called ignorance. I forgive igonrances, I forgive mistakes, this is human. But I will never get married with a girl who does not take sexual misconduct as a mistake. She is wrong girl, at least wrong for me, she is not wise. I will neither encourage anyone to get married with someone who appreciate sexual misconduct, nor I will encourage to get married with someone who thinks there is no problem with sexual misconduct, no matter whether he or she. There is problem, but he/she can not see out of ignorance.
But I am not with those friends who are not ready to forgive the mistakes. Mistakes are human. If somebody takes sexual misconduct as mistake and wants to correct it, there will be no one wiser than him/her. Big achievement is to one's own mistakes, if you don't know whats wrong with you how will you correct? Those who had sexual misconduct and see problem in it, and want to come out of it, they are good, I love them.
I want to write more in this so that some friends understand the theme, but I don't have time, hope this will work.
Vishontar
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| vishontar |
Posted
on 15-Oct-03 06:46 PM
Please read.
it was not feasible for the woman of working class
&
Big achievement is to be able to see one's own mistakes,
Vishontar
PS: I want to write something to South Ji as well as Deepak Ji, may be tomorrow.
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| lonely |
Posted
on 15-Oct-03 07:41 PM
Vishontar,
thats really good..i wish i could do the same...think like you do...
esp " If somebody takes sexual misconduct as mistake and wants to correct it, there will be no one wiser than him/her."..thats great..great thinking...
btw, does that mean you will not marry all your life? If that is the case I am out of it before I am in....
always lonely,
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| paad ka |
Posted
on 15-Oct-03 08:23 PM
Thugged out...you are a queer with a thesaurus.....no girls like you....You are a virgin..And your "homies" are little pimple-faced computer dweebs like yourself
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| thugged out |
Posted
on 16-Oct-03 06:50 AM
Paad ka, dumb fuking flatulent whore bitchass mother fuker, Imma blow your head if you were near me fuking piece of illegal mother fuking whore. Don't ever get near me you piece of shit or Imma make INS send you back to the shithole you crawled out of. Dumb fuking flatulent piece of shit.
Paad ka's ass, however got fuked by a big black transexual thug. That's the reason he's a non-virgin.
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| gharmigirl |
Posted
on 16-Oct-03 12:07 PM
thugged out daaaarling, anyone who wants to play my banjo has to have the soul of a poet and the temperment of Gandhi, not that of Atilla the Hun or Genghas Khan on a bad day. your note to paad ka sounds as if you dropped out of anger management course and instead joined class on how to kill fleas with cannonballs 101. :)
lonely--can you define sexual misconduct for me? is it only misconduct when a woman pursues experience or when either a man or woman persues experience? in your definition, can either a man or a woman be guilty of sexual misconduct? and also, do you consider it sexual misconduct when a married man has a little saathiketi on the side? or is it only sexual misconduct if married women has a side adventures? Just curious about the nature of misconduct and whether your concept of sexual misconduct means only women who play are misconducting themselves.
gg
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| suva chintak |
Posted
on 16-Oct-03 12:25 PM
People, people!!
I think it is time to bring in the ancient authority on this weighty matter. According to Vatsayana in Kamasutra (368:277) there are pros and cons of having a virgin woman for a man.
Benefits:
Since a virgin has never experienced copulation with a man before, she can never judge how well you performed. So this is the main attraction why men who have doubts about their talents seek out virgins. The great sage refers to this as "Aandheke desh me langada raja."
Costs:
Since a virgin has no experience of sexual activity, she can not be a full partipant in the copulation. Not knowing what to do with the man, she becomes a passive object in a game that requires equal effort from both sides if enjoyment is to be maximized for both parties. This is why discerning gentlemen avoid the virgins like the plague. In the words of the great teacher of love, "Kheladi rojo, anadhi nahin!" (368:137).
I hope this bit of ancient wisdom will help to put a post-modern debate into perspective.
SC, the occasional epicurean
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| paad ka |
Posted
on 16-Oct-03 01:04 PM
I think I have found my ho-bitch on this site, this dweeb who calls himself thugged out....I made this muhfuka cry when I asserted the fact that he is a computer geek/virgin, thereby ruining his badboy reputation on his beloved nerd forum...Now, this nerdfuk is so angry, he is threatening to blow my head off, etc....Yo, thugged out you prepubescent pussyslut keep repping your sajha nerdeteers....Shiiet man, I know you keep it gansta tho- correcting grammatical and spelling errors on Sajha is hardcore.....And nah man, I dont want to mess with you....cause if its a street brawl who knows you might clobber me over the head with your thesaurus....All your malicious responses seem to indicate that you are a person who is experiencing great sexual frustration....You insecure prick, you never had a girl in your life...Oh yeah, and jerking off to scat, bukake and child porn (3 topics this queer regularly discusses on these forums) does not mean you lost your virginity...Stay celibate and keep busting caps on-line, you net thug
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| thugged out |
Posted
on 16-Oct-03 01:27 PM
" I think I have found my ho-bitch on this site, this dweeb who calls himself thugged out"
Right, you sure would want me to be your butt partner, or as you so eloquently put it, your "ho-bitch", which I take to be your gayness showing. But too bad, I am not interested in closet fags like yourself. I advise that you migrate to Kandahar, where you would fit right in without raising an eyebrow.
http://www.sodomylaws.org/world/afghanistan/afnews07.htm
See, mr flatulent, this is where you should be immigrating..it would be Shangri-la to you.
"....I made this muhfuka cry when I asserted the fact that he is a computer geek/virgin, thereby ruining his badboy reputation on his beloved nerd forum"
Uh, listen, copycat, you're basically trying to be like me with your "don't care" attitude and shit, which you purloined from me. I have been posting here before you, although I probably have fewer posts, and only judging from posts alone, you would be the bigger geek, and with all the internet jargons you like to spew, I guess geek would be an understatement to describe you. So, what should I settle for? Fudge packing nerd? How about whatever floats your boat. You should make a gay movie with your butt lover, and here's a nifty little title for your porn-flick: "Butt pirates of the Caribbean", starring Mr. flatulent and his protege Master wind.
"Yo, thugged out you prepubescent pussyslut keep repping your sajha nerdeteers"
Prepubescent, or not, but not impotent, unlike our Paad Ka who needs to pop a dozen viagra pills before he can get it up. FYI, Mr Flatulent, I work 8 hrs/day in a major biotech firm as a researcher. What would your profession be? Oh, wait a minute. You already expounded on that, your profession is selling your anus so horny seniscent men and curious youths alike can enjoy you without flinching in pain.
"I know you keep it gansta tho- correcting grammatical and spelling errors on Sajha is hardcore"
Just admit it, you're a copycat. Come up with your own original idea of a cyber personality, turdbrain. I don't follow your messages, nor do I intend to. At least you conceded to the fact that you know what I've been up to here at Sajha. What a loser! And he has the nerve of calling me a nerd. I don't know if I should roll on the floor lauging my ass off, or I should bawl out on this poor insecure shitface of a man with no personality whatsoever!
"....All your malicious responses seem to indicate that you are a person who is experiencing great sexual frustration"
Now let's get it straight this time. You have called me 1) a geek, 2) a queer and 3) a sexually frustrated hombre. Shall I call it projection, you freak??? Just crawl out of whatever hole you're hiding in and admit it.
"You insecure prick, you never had a girl in your life"
So, that's what you've been counting on eh, that you could have me all for yourself were I free of girls? I have a 2 year old son, you credulous son of a whore, without getting hitched. Can you boast that, you asshole?
"Oh yeah, and jerking off to scat, bukake and child porn"
I had to look up the term bukake. Looks like paad ka is well versed in
all sorts of irregular sexual fantasies. Projection again. Ho ho ho ho ho.
"Stay celibate and keep busting caps on-line, you net thug "
Busting caps with a water pistol, if that's possible, copycat!
(And webmaster, stop deleting my messages already!)
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| paad ka |
Posted
on 16-Oct-03 08:57 PM
Great essay, nerd...I'd expect that from a dweebfuk....You refuted each one of my points....Bravo!!....It's great that you noticed my "i dont give a fuk attitude"....It is this attitude that sometimes compells me to misspell words on purpose, so I can be a net renegade like you.... My lifelong goal is to be a Sajha superstar just like you....What thesaurus do you recommend I use to gain esteem in this nerd community??....And congrats on your employment with the major Biotech firm...Now that you have the janitorial job that you dreamed of as a little boy, I want to congratulate you and offer you continued success in waxing floors and cleaning toilets..Please accept my blessings.....May you master the custodial arts and ascend to the upper echelon of your profession!!......In addition, I am envious of the exorbitant sums of money you are making by resupplying tissue paper and scrubbing urinals..Please do not let this fame and fortune go to your head...That means don't forget your fellow Sajhites when you cash in your welfare checks...And congrats on being a dad....How long did you have to negotiate with the adoption agency to let you be a single caretaker of a child....Does your son know that his daddy is a gay janitor?....Hopefully, your son will die a slow agonizing death so that I may take great pleasure in knowing that the world will be spared of another gay janitor...Go ahead and write another dissertation and refute everything I have just typed, it will give you an instant boost in self-confidence as well as reinstill your nerdeteers with faith in your net-thugging skills.
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| thugged out |
Posted
on 17-Oct-03 02:49 PM
Check your email for once, San might have sent you a love letter. You sure as hell did to me. BTW, I can spot more flip-flops in your stupid ass message than I can in the Daytona Beach.
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| vishontar |
Posted
on 17-Oct-03 04:28 PM
Dear friends,
Many freinds refers virgin spouse mainly boys, here is something for those who think virginity has something special. I appreciate those who does not do sexual misconduct and are virgin. I recommand those friends not to break other four precepts too, with any major way. In our tradition most of the virgin are due to vision, let me expain what is vision.
Mind has two parts, one is subconsious, which is due to nature and i don't want to go in detail about this, another one is consious, which is mainly developed becasue of the surrounding and environment around us. This consious mind makes a vision, this vision makes us what we are. I can not say that the subconsious mind has no role to form a vision, actually subconsious mind is seed of every mental actions, let me be brief. So vision is rigid discission of our mind. It is conditioned mind. Love our coustom, love our culture, believe in our riligion are examples of vision.
you have a strong vision that virgin is good and non virgin is bad, indeed! You are virgin just becasue of this reason, aren't you? Tell me if you are virgin becasue you have thought about all bad consiquenses of sexual misconduct, that is great. I suggest to find the scientific reason of the things and act accordingly.
I have seen some Brahman who think they are the most pious because they have not eaten food without changing the cloth and form non-brahman, in their whole life, this is vision. Is it true for you? That is false reality, reality for him only. A chettri kills goats and other animals by the name of Goddess Kali and thinks that they did wholsome deed which will be rewarded by Kali. It's not ture, but he thinks he has done wholsome work out of his vision. A hindu take dive into Ganga river and think that he cleaned up his sins, non hindus will laugh at him, the cause is vison. Buddhist think since they believe in four noble truth, they are in right path, vison. A christian get baptised in the church and thinks he cleaned his sins, the cause is vision. The vision creates apparent reality to the person, person thinks something is real out of his conditioned mind, but it has to do nothing with the reality.
After Islamic attack, Muslim brought to India a system of Rakhel, an illigal wife, this system was privalling even few decade ago, may be you can see now a days aslo if you go some remote part of India. Rakhel lived outside the house and the person who owned Rakhel had to look after her. All respected person of the society must have Rakhels. More Rakhels more prestigious. Looks funny han! but true. Society has vision of accepting it. This system would not be accepted some other culture becasue of the vision. 2600 years back, people got married with their sisters, they have accepted easily out of their vision and we are not accepting out of our vision. Still, in Islam people get married with causions, they take it easily but we can not take. In the time of Buddha, Janapadkalyani used to be the titile for most beautiful girl of the kingdom, anybody can have legal sex with her whoever can offord, she used to have great respect in society. The family of Janapadkalyani used to proud of her. Can you accept now? These all are due to conditioned mind, these are not real at all. If something is real, it would be real for all.
Those who thinks virginity is special, that is also a vision. Look for a girl who is wise. A girl who is virgin due to strict environment may commit sexual misconduct evern after marriage if she find suitable environment, I have heard some such stories from my friends. A girl who has commited sexual misconduct due to environment can realize the mistake and live a wholesome life. The root is sexual misconduct, never appreciate sexual misconduct and never think that virginity is something special. Look for a wise girl, who will be able to distinguish between good and bad and will be interested to accept good and leave bad.
Clean up your vision of thinking virginity special, in reality it is not. Guys or girls, look for wise partner, if it happens that your partner is not wise, help him/her, save him/her walking into the fire, sexual misconduct is fire. Try your best to your partner to walk into the right path, love can change the person not punishment.
I have loved one Hindi movie, Ishor, where a humble virgin guy get married with a one child widow, how beautiful life they have lived in their whole life. Nature will not punish you becasue you married a non virgin woman it will punish your crookedness. Be humble like Ishor, live simple life as humble Ishor lived with his wife and experience the magic of the nature, the happiness. Some movie gives good insight, if you try to use them the theme in your life, you will be transformed. In conclusion, be humble and live simple life, that is clue of happy life.
Mahamod, the founder of Islam married Katija, a twice widow aged woman. He was illitrate sheepboy, got mercy of great power and becomes a great human. He was so humble and honest, so was rewarded, marrying a non virgin woman could not be barrier. This great person condamen sexual misconduct throughout his life and used strict rule to women as well as man not to do sexual miscondut, Burka is the residue.
I would like to say soemthing to the Gharmigal's question in free time,
Vishontar
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| vishontar |
Posted
on 17-Oct-03 04:46 PM
Dear lonely Ji,
I appreciate your wisdom and humbleness.
Will I get married?
Two years ago, one the Hispanic girl, friend of my special freind, asked me, after listening to me, my answer was,
If I am extremely lucky, there will be no girl in my life and I will fully utilize my time to eradicate my mental defilements for ultimate truth.
If I am lucky, there will be someone simple, humble and wise girl with whom I will have happy married life.
I know I am not unlucky so there will not be any wrongly viewed modern girl in my life.
Take care,
Vihsontar
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| paad ka |
Posted
on 18-Oct-03 01:46 AM
I want all you nerdeteers to know that me and Maharaj Dweebpendra Thugged Out Shah Dev II have resolved our differences...He told me about incest in his family , how he was buttraped by his father, and the fact that the only cunt he'd ever seen in his life was his mother's...After chatting with Dweebpendra Thugged Out Shah Dev, he eventually sent me a picture of his skanky-whore of a slut mother....This is her pic below...What a doll!!!
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| kalekrishna |
Posted
on 18-Oct-03 03:52 AM
Hey friends don,t you guys think this personal dual is spilling over.
Stop it for God's sake.
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| vishontar |
Posted
on 19-Oct-03 08:39 PM
Gharmigirl wrote-----
lonely--can you define sexual misconduct for me? is it only misconduct when a woman pursues experience or when either a man or woman persues experience? in your definition, can either a man or a woman be guilty of sexual misconduct? and also, do you consider it sexual misconduct when a married man has a little saathiketi on the side? or is it only sexual misconduct if married women has a side adventures? Just curious about the nature of misconduct and whether your concept of sexual misconduct means only women who play are misconducting themselves.
gg
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For householders, sexual intercourse between two opposite-sex spouse is not misconduct, other than this, natural or unnatural sexes are considered to misconduct. Sexual misconduct is considered to be misdeed in the society not simply to keep society in right shape but also for very strong valid scientific reason. The scientific reason is, without generating lust one can not comit sexual misconduct. Lust is the impurity of mind which brings restlessness ie misery. This was one of the great discoveres of Buddha's or Rishi's or Muni's.
This science is true for one and all, so to come out of misery one has to keep the balance of mind, for that one should not generate lust. Wise people of past applied this simple law of nature in the daily life. They brought the concept of virginity, and this was for man as well as for woman. Virginity is not a concept which is imposed, it is responsibility given to individual to be a better person, in fact it is one of the five premitive practices. All five are equally importance I mentioned above. These premitive practices are to help higher advance practices which are collectively called Dhamma, the way of liberation.
As time passes, Dhamma get disappeared but its residues are left. Virginity is one of the leftover. As Dhamma get disappeared, people could not experience peace of mind, as a result they could not seperate peaceful and perturbed state of mind, and hence they could not figure it out what virginity for. The light of the torch has extinguished, society is holding the stick, poor! they are unwire of the meaning. There were many people practicing Brahmacharya in some period of the past, but it had never happened that the people of past were very strictly observing this precept. Please dont' think idle. This is real world. People of al thel time are almost similar, to be preceptive is difficult task always, time does not matter.
I don't think that it is only for woman, sexual misconduct can not be appreciated either it is commited by men or women. Now a days man and woman could not see the the disadvantage of sexual misconduct except social reputation, because there is no Dharma to experience the peace of mind and differenciate peaceful and restless mind. So to quench the thrust of lust, people don't hegitate to commit sexulal misconduct for instaneous pleasure. Nobody has self control, some society are open some society are close, but everywhere there is sexual misconduct.
In the east, the society is not open and it is male dominant, so it seems, virginity is only for woman because woman lose more reputation than man. But see in the west, the society is free and open, so concept of virginity is only in theory, for man as well as woman. If you are worried about why society raise finger only for woman, don't worry, west is reaching there, west was also east before. So never feel that, virginity is something odd concept imposed by male dominant society to the female. The state of virginity that you are seeing in the society is the evolved form of Barhmacharya, loosing the root meaning.
modern-day people do not see any benifit from virginity, they want to enjoy, sensual pleasure form the sexual intercourse. They don't see any benifit from virginity, rather it brings histeria or any other psychic diseases. True! They are correct from their side. One should always see the advantage to apply something, this is scientific thinking. They will accept virginity if they get more advantage from it than sexual intercourse. They should be able to see the drawbacks of sexual misconducts.
Dhamma is prevaling again, a pure scientific technique of mental concentration and purification. As they practice the concentration and purification and find a little bit of peace of mind from it, then they will realize the difference between peaceful state and restless state of mind, then they will realize how lust imbalances the mind and brings restless, then they will leave sexual miscondut out of wisdom, for their own welfare. They will scared to practice sexual misconduct, each individual, male or female, every wise, that will be real Brahmacharya. This will happen soon. Then you will not ask question, why virginity is only for woman? Why not for man? you will realize virginity is for individual, whoever practice, man or woman, will get peace, provided it should be practiced with wisdom and enthusiasm. Whoever brake it, man or woman, will lose the the peace.
This is very sensative problem, i will write one more posting for welfare of friends, then I will conclude.
Vishontar
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| aeee |
Posted
on 20-Oct-03 04:07 AM
vishontar:
u shld head the population control deparment if nothing else. confuse them if u can't convince them??
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