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| sarada_khanal | Posted
on 13-Oct-03 06:12 AM
Nepali congress is harboring the corrupt figures. Why cant they shut up until the investigation is over? _____________________ Congress denounces arrest of Govinda Raj Joshi KOL Report Kathmandu, Oct 13 - Nepali Congress has denounced arrest of its party joint General Secretary Govinda Raj Joshi by Commission for Investigation of Abuse of Authority (CIAA) from his residence. A press statement issued by Congress on Monday denounced arrest of Joshi as politically prejudiced. The statement further stated that Nepali Congress is against corruption, however denounces the use of CIAA as a means of present government to take prejudiced actions against the leaders who are agitating against so called regression. (hbt) |
| barad | Posted
on 13-Oct-03 08:37 AM
a party lead by BP has now degenerated to this stage. and these clowns,are again launching a movement to revive their flagging political careers.i wonder when will they start thinking about the country. i think govinda raj joshi was a headmaster in a village on the way to pohkara during the panchayat years,and now he has accumulated 30 million.he must be doing a lot tuitions after school huh???? |
| barad | Posted
on 13-Oct-03 08:40 AM
the CIAA also tried to arrest RN Sharma,they used to call this guy 'SUN MANTRI',when he was the finance minister not long ago. they cudnt find him,i dont know if he is in nepal,he was in the US till a week ago. |
| sarada_khanal | Posted
on 14-Oct-03 05:09 AM
How far can Corrupt people like Govinda Raj Joshi can run? since there was warrant why this guy did not surrender? why he tried to run? what he wants to hide? Sarada ____ Nepalnews.com: An early morning duel - almost! When CIAA officials raided the house of former minister Govinda Raj Joshi today, he tried to flee in his car. The officials noticed Joshi about to exit the gate and warned him not to run away as they had the official arrest warrant from the Commission. "Joshi ignored it and scolded us in impolite language," one of the officials said. He challenged the officials and ordered his driver to step on it. The officials then parked their vehicle at the gate of Joshis house to obstruct his vehicle. Joshis official security personnel threatened the CIAA officials and tried to ward them off. The CIAA security personnel were also ready to face Joshis security personnel. "The situation was so tense that the security personnel from both sides looked determined to have a shootout," the official said, requesting anonymity.However, Joshis armed police personnel calmed down when the senior security personnel from the CIAA displayed his identity card and handed the arrest warrant to Joshi. The CIAA officials then had Joshis driver taken out of the car and a CIAA driver took Joshi to the Commission. |
| bideshi | Posted
on 14-Oct-03 07:52 AM
ha ha ha!Good news,but I know he'll be declaired clean too just like others had been cleared in the past!But atleast he is the jail right now!Good for him! |
| GP | Posted
on 14-Oct-03 08:31 AM
Bideshi sir, are we sailing in the same boat? i mean do I know you? Yes, you are right that GRJ will be cleaned up later. But, I am so much reliefed that this burglar has to be jailed even for one night. GP Virginia,USA (recently moved from Japan) |
| Deep | Posted
on 14-Oct-03 08:40 AM
I was waiting for GP to show up in this thread--- sadhai "gobinde" "khume" bhandai ufrini GP lai mauka ma nadekhda dikka jasto lagya thyo--balla dhukka bho! |
| golkhandi | Posted
on 14-Oct-03 06:37 PM
Hey sathi ho govinde ko ta gas sastation chha bhanchan ni USA ma hota ? |
| khukuree | Posted
on 14-Oct-03 06:52 PM
ho! and they're hiring but sorry bro they'll ask for your ID and SSN. |
| bideshi | Posted
on 14-Oct-03 07:24 PM
GP,by the way I'm female.Kyarnu,yo bideshi name le pani sabai jana malai Ms nabhanera Sir bhanthanchhan. We might know each other.This world is soooooooo small and we r both from Nepal and of the same generation. I just hate this man and i am happy that he is in the jail at least for a night if not for ever. |
| south | Posted
on 14-Oct-03 07:29 PM
govinda raj joshi, khum b khadka, bijaya k. gachchedaar, chiranjibi wagle, and many more. all these should be put in jail forever and their property should be seized. |
| ameeshaa | Posted
on 14-Oct-03 09:38 PM
hey bideshi, why don't u change your name by ms.bideshi.? so that , we all will know u r female. |
| bideshi | Posted
on 15-Oct-03 06:47 AM
Ameeshaa, That sounds good,why don't u suggest me some other name though.I think now it's time I change my name.I'm bored with this bideshi name.ANy nepali nice name that will hint my gender too? |
| Deep | Posted
on 15-Oct-03 06:50 AM
How does "Asmita" sound? Asmita = Self-respect (I think). (Bhawana ko baini lai fyatta samjhe ke). |
| nirvana | Posted
on 15-Oct-03 10:14 AM
This is funny: By Rajesh KC of KOL.. 
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| sarada_khanal | Posted
on 15-Oct-03 10:23 AM
Nice One. |
| bahadur | Posted
on 15-Oct-03 12:13 PM
Govindeko chora chori americama chhan re ni. Kasailai thaha chha. Girijalai pani jail halnu parchha. Sabai netale prajatantrako namma janata thageka chhan tyasaile criminals(Maoists) increase bhayeka chhan. Deshbata yi chorharulai bhagaye ramro hune thiyo. |
| Chordaku420 | Posted
on 15-Oct-03 12:21 PM
I am soo happy, This guy is in Jail. I want to see Chiranjivi (khursani Maila) in Jail as well. Oh yeah, Govinde's son and daughter were in West Virginia and they moved to PA and I heard they are in California these days. Same on them, If I ever see them I do not hesitate to spit on them. Ba le Ghus khayeko Paisa le Gas station kinne ?? |
| bahadur | Posted
on 15-Oct-03 12:29 PM
Chordaku420 dear, you are right. Maile suneko Maoists Baburamki chori pani UK ma chhin re. Timilai thaha chha ? Gobinde murdabad. Chora chorilai gas station kinidine gobinde murdabad. |
| prativa | Posted
on 15-Oct-03 12:42 PM
Govindeko chhoro kati barsako? bihe garnu parla? |
| sarada_khanal | Posted
on 15-Oct-03 01:16 PM
Prativa, Here is the link for GRJ's son's webpage. Good luck for marrying him! http://www.dipak.8m.com/mframe.htm |
| prativa | Posted
on 15-Oct-03 01:24 PM
I was jocking darling. I am not going. I hate him and I will hate him. |
| aakash | Posted
on 16-Oct-03 04:17 AM
hi all.....Good for him ..he is in jail now but why are we talkin about his son / daughter...i dont get it...are they currupt too? |
| Chordaku420 | Posted
on 16-Oct-03 04:45 AM
Yeah Aakash, They are the one who is using Govinde's Black money and making it white. Govinde tells CIAA that he has all these money and it was sent by his son in US. F*** that Basterd. |
| Bhunte | Posted
on 16-Oct-03 04:51 AM
How many of you who have been to US in the past few years were able to repatriate that much fortune back home? |
| Bhunte | Posted
on 16-Oct-03 05:04 AM
In Nepal there exist a law for those who are accepts bribe. Is there any laws in the land for "ghus khuwaune manchhe"? In US, giving bribe is also a criminal act. We need to think the other side as well. |
| Bhunte | Posted
on 16-Oct-03 05:05 AM
pls, read as ...who are 'ghusyaha' or accepts bribe.... |
| sarada_khanal | Posted
on 16-Oct-03 05:05 AM
I am glad to see that at least these "Kuputras" will be behind the bar for 20 days. SK ____________________________ Court extends custody for the accused three KOL Report KATHMANDU, Oct 16 - The Special Court on Thursday has permitted CIAA to remand under judicial custody the former minister Govindaraj Joshi and two former secretaries for twenty days. Commission for Investigation of Abuse of Authority (CIAA) on Monday arrested Joshi and former secretaries Padma Prasad Pokhrel and Chakra Bandhu Aryal on charges of amassing the wealth through illegal sources. The commission had demanded a 30-day remand to forward the investigation, while the lawyers of the defenders argued they could be investigated without being detained. (snn/hbt) |
| Arnico | Posted
on 16-Oct-03 08:16 AM
The resume found on the link posted by sarada khanal is quite amusing: here is someone who knows how to use Windows 95, Windows 98, Windows NT, Windows 2000, Windows Me, and Windows XP. Wow!!! |
| Chordaku420 | Posted
on 16-Oct-03 08:26 AM
Ghusya Ko Chhoro Moro 
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| Deep | Posted
on 16-Oct-03 08:37 AM
Attacking GRJ is one thing but posting family pictures where others (innocent people-I don't think we are talking about the people in the pictures, are we?) are also present is wrong (to me). Let's leave other people (with no public issue) out of this drag, please. |
| Chordaku420 | Posted
on 16-Oct-03 09:00 AM
HAHA, He is a High School teacher in Tanahun and after 12 years he became one of the richest guy here in Nepal. His cash is being used to send his daughter and sons to schools in Amrika. Guilty by associates. Lets leave No stone unfold. They all are enjoying with Govinde's ghusya money. |
| Arnico | Posted
on 16-Oct-03 09:08 AM
I agree with Deep. Chordaku, you are going too far. |
| RBaral | Posted
on 16-Oct-03 09:26 AM
Where did these photos come from? Did they come from a public domain? Or were they lifted from somewhere else? Why so much of an attack to someone's children? Why so much of a hatred toward Govinda Raj Joshi? A couple of politicians, with brief interrogrations, were given a clean chit by CIAA in past several months. And, this might be just another part of the sequeal. Why so much a thril, so much of a fussl? All (alomost) politicians have taken bribe, or have bribed to become ministers, or a candidate. May be Govinda Raj Joshi outcompeted others in making fortune. Where ministers are after making money, what's bad in making the most? Would it have been better if GRJ was among the ones to make the least money? GRJ, is just a part of a mechanism where Ghus rampant. And, Bhunte, there are stringent laws in Nepal. To bribe and to be bribed, both, are punishable by Nepali law. Not only that, there is a code that defines the fine details of what 'gifts' a government servant should not accept. Namaste, Rishi |
| Deep | Posted
on 16-Oct-03 09:35 AM
Chordaku, What the hell is this guilty by associates, Anyway? Let's assume: Your kaka is a ghusya and with whom you are seen in a dashain picture. You have nothing to do with his ghus money---now, are you guilty by associates (you are associated with your kaka, aren't you)? Prove what did that old lady there in the picture above do to deserve your "guilty by associates" doctrine. Just because someone is seen with GRJ does not mean he/she is equally bad, or does it? kya babaal...I am not supporting GRJ. Chordaku, when you say GRJ is a corrupt man, I agree with you-100%. But I am disturbed to see other people, who may have nothing to do with his corrupt practice, being dragged just because they are in the same picture with GRJ. That's all. If you can prove, all of them in the pictures are equally bad or even worse, you will see me right with you chanting in your support, raising my right fist in the air, "Chordaku" jindabad---well, naam ta fernai parchha hola bro---"chordaku" jindabad bhanda feri malai ni dhad ma karang samet rankine gari delan danak manchhe le--- |
| jira | Posted
on 16-Oct-03 09:49 AM
Chordakuji! No offense to your endeavour in scanning those pictures and pasting to this forum. GRJ is ofcourse a culprit. There are no hideouts between how and why. Regardless, posting his family pictures and defaming his family is as equally misdeed as he is blamed for. I do not see any relevant connection between these pictures and his bribary scandal. So, before you choose to outcast such vicious attack, please think twice. It seems like you have close connection to have such photographs, I won't be surprised if they do same to you. Please do not make it as a trend to express your disgruntle. will you? Ek choti bichar purawuney ho ki!! |
| Chordaku420 | Posted
on 16-Oct-03 10:06 AM
My Final Line..... Chiranjivi Wagle ( Khursani Maila) and Govinda Raj Joshi are the most Ghusya. http://www.dipak.8m.com/mframe.htm |
| Gaz | Posted
on 16-Oct-03 10:16 AM
here is deepak(ghusya ko choro) email addresss joshi@rodhi.com |
| bhenda2 | Posted
on 16-Oct-03 10:20 AM
Haina daju bhai didi bahini...leave those fellas alone...they are already paying for what their dad did...their dad is in jail...that is such a disgrace in Nepali society...I dont think we need to put them through more...pls leave them alone. |
| honeybuzz | Posted
on 16-Oct-03 11:22 AM
Prativa and all guys Hate Govinda raj Joshi not his kids and leave his sons alone. |
| whocares | Posted
on 16-Oct-03 11:37 AM
We know there so many corrupt people in politic in Nepal. But why there family suffer for them. They might have different life then we think of what they are doing. It is not wise to include there family on the discuss. Specially putting the private picture is not the clever thinking. We have to know first what his son and daughter is doing USA and we can discuss about them but jut to include them for no reason is not a good idea. Like father like son does not work all the time. If you want to make this discuss important and informative then stop wasting time to talk about there family and focus on the main person only. It is not good to create bad feeling for the family who is living there life there way. |
| whocares | Posted
on 16-Oct-03 11:41 AM
you are right. what is the diffrence if we have the same mentatlity like some people here. i think some one has perosnal issue with the joshi family. why we care about that. we only care what govinda raj joshi is doing? everbody has privacy. putting pic on the net for discussion ( comon it is too much) . stop it and thing big guys. |
| Chordaku420 | Posted
on 16-Oct-03 11:50 AM
Hello Guys, I am not a shame to blame their sons and daughers here in America and Australian. Ask them If they are not getting money from their Ghus Khor Dad. Every single paisa they received from Govinde is Tax Payers money and I am Tax Payers. I do know where Govinde and Khursani Maila's sons and daughters are. Let me know If you want to see them.... |
| Bilbo Baggins | Posted
on 16-Oct-03 12:32 PM
I wonder how Ashu Ji about all these attacks. Woulde he want these harasment to stop. Would he want SAN to block all these user who are attacking these ghusyas' family!! BB |
| NepaliThito | Posted
on 16-Oct-03 12:36 PM
Hi Folks I have been following this thread from the very beginning. I really dont understand why people are kicking GOVINDE's children ass. I dont see its legible going after the children. Everybody agrees that GOVINDA R JOSHI is a king in the act of corruption but why should there children get along in this issue. Right Deepak is in US, dinesh is in Australia, so they are trying to live the life we are living. Yeah right, they might be getting money from their DAD but is there any problem in taking the money the PARENTS give. Have we ever asked out DAD about the MONEY he is getting, NOPE we are never bother about the SOURCE, we are just concerning about our NEEDS, not the source of INCOME. People are posting deepak's email add on this thread, i am not into that. Let them live their life as they want. Guys lets be practical and live in the present world. Lets talk about GRJ but not about his children. We now know, "POLITICS is a DIRTY game PLAYED by DIRTY PERSON". OK, GRJ was a teacher in TANAHU before a decade but his fate brought him to be the MINISTER of our NATION, infact we gave him the FATE to be the RICH. He did what he thought of, AND we fool are still giving CHANCE for the people like him TO MAKE US POOR. LETS be realistic and act like a citizen living under the influence of THE CORRUPT. Will you say no to the HUGE sum of MONEY if place in front of YOU? The answer is NO. YOu have some preferences on LIFE which is only FULFILLED with the help of "MONEY". That might be the reason we are lacking behind on the process of ADVANCEMENT. The BOTTOMLINE is.. Lets just talk about GRJ not his children. Cheers NepaliThito |
| RBaral | Posted
on 16-Oct-03 12:37 PM
Chordaku420, Your apathy towards GRJ leads me to think that you are from Tanahu, or around. Come on, there are several other politicians who we could consider equally corrupt. Why aren't you after those? |
| honeybuzz | Posted
on 16-Oct-03 12:41 PM
Hey! chordaku you don't have to tell ppl where his sons and daughter are. we are not that dum if we wanna find out we can do that on our own. we don't have time to care about them. well all nepali take money from our parents.I never ask my dad where he got that money from. I don't know if u do |
| sankaa | Posted
on 16-Oct-03 01:01 PM
Nepali thito, I agree with you on not bashing on Deepak. I personally, knew deepak cuz he came to my University for a semester. It was a long time ago and i haven't seen him or been in touch with him ever since he left this town. Just so everyone know, let me tell something about deepak. And before you will post my photo in here or bash on me for being a desh drohi and whatever not, let me tell you that i am not related or affiliated with GRJ in anysense. Deepak was an honest guy, at least when he was here. He never took money from his dad but instead he worked his ass off to make money for rent and food etc. He never tried to show off that his dad is a minister(GRJ was a minister back then) instead he always tried to make that a secret but everyone would know anyways. He was sincere and was a bright student. He worked hard and he was known in the community as a friendly and honest foreign student. I don't know what happened after he left this town though. He move to Denver after this. I don't know about his brother or sister but , it just does not seem fair to bash on them and post thier pictures and other and personal details on Sajha. If GRJ is guilty then he should be punished according to the law. If his children are guilty then they should be punished too, however, in a civilized -human way. Gush linay, chakadi garnay, commission khanay and other activities are the symptoms. Curing the symptom would not do any good. We should try to get to the buttom of the problem. When Ranas were around , everyone was trying to make better life by chakadi and bhakti. When panchayat was there - same thing ; chakadi and bhakti to influential people. In the history of Nepal there is always chakadi and bhakti to achieve easy fortune. So this is a clear symptom that desease exists. So what's the disease? let's focus on that. Nepali thito: We now know, "POLITICS is a DIRTY game PLAYED by DIRTY PERSON". OK, GRJ was a teacher in TANAHU before a decade but his fate brought him to be the MINISTER of our NATION, infact we gave him the FATE to be the RICH -- No Nepali thito, Policits is not a dirty game. It's not a game at all. GRJ fate did not brought him to be the minister of our nation. It was Nepali peoples' trust which made him minister and he flushed those trust down the toilet to make money. Nepali thito said: LETS be realistic and act like a citizen living under the influence of THE CORRUPT. Will you say no to the HUGE sum of MONEY if place in front of YOU? The answer is NO. YOu have some preferences on LIFE which is only FULFILLED with the help of "MONEY". --> Yes, I will say no to the huge sum of money if it is not legitimate for me to take the money. And we all should. Just cuz you are desperate of money does not mean that you have valid reason to go rob a bank , kill someone, or take a gush. sorry for the spellilng and grammatical errors. |
| Chordaku420 | Posted
on 16-Oct-03 01:20 PM
RBaral, Your comments make me think you are Govinde's Juwain or If you not then you must be KHURSANI MAILA's Juwain. I am sure they have given you soo much money as a dowry. So, you better shut your mouth and do NOT try to defend your Ghusya SAUARA. |
| Bhunte | Posted
on 16-Oct-03 04:15 PM
RishiBaral ji, thx for the info. if there are stringent laws against bribers then they whould also be brought to justice...... |
| whocares | Posted
on 16-Oct-03 07:46 PM
I guess there are some smart people who is talking now. I like to request the person who runs the site to remove picture form the net. People can post Govinda raj joshis single picture with out family. I do not know much about his son and daughter and do not want to know too. I guess that is not out business. Lets talk some thing instinctual and informative. Just blaming some one does not make any sense at all. In past also we heard about Deepak . I do not know why people are after him. He might be a good person or bad we have nothing to do with him. May be people live around know him well. If some lives here and do the things he wants do that is his choice. It is not good idea to ruin his social status by doing stupid stuff. If we wanna talk about Deepak then lest talk and find out that will be interesting. But does that worth some thing for us. We love our nation. The people they are running the country all are corrupt. Why we care the new politician only. What about the old one. What about royal family. Are we scared to talk about them. Or we have only prejudice for new politician. I guess it is time to get real. All I can say is only smart people make smart comment. Lets all try to be honest and smart. God bless you all. |
| whocares | Posted
on 16-Oct-03 07:50 PM
I agree with you. why some post the picture. may be i have picture of some one's gf or bf even they got married in nepal. i guess people cross the limit of being nepalese. It's free to talk on line does not mean that we can say anything about anybody. |
| DWI | Posted
on 16-Oct-03 09:58 PM
No comments on Govinda Raj Joshi (or his family) as I hardly know him. But I want to go back to the point that the originator of this thread brought up. When a respected member of a party is accused of some wrong doing, the general tendency is that the party comes forward to either denounce the candidate or assure the rest that they will carry internal investigation (if the accusition is not fullblown). Nepali Congress should be ashamed of its decision to shell Mr. Joshi on this matter. Even if he is innocent, how can you justify your action of denouncing a judiciary part of our constitution so brashly? How are the citizens to believe that they are anything different from another public enemy, the maoists? Not to disrespect the party, but to condemn their latest move. |
| manchhe | Posted
on 16-Oct-03 11:25 PM
NEPALITHITO & SANKAA I AGREE WITH YOU. 1-WE SHOULD ONLY DISCUSS ON THE ISSUE 'GRJ & CIAA's MOVE' 2-WE SHOULD NOT post deepak's email, FAMILY PICTURES 3-LETS NOT BASH ON THEM SO BAD HOWEVER, EQUALLY, I CAN BLAME THE 'FAMILY' TOO WHO DID NOT EVEN TRY TO DISCOURAGE GRJ's WRONG MOVES. NOT DISCOURAGING IS ENCOURAGING. 'FAMILY MEMBERS' ARE NOT INFANT. BUT WELL EDUCATED AND GROWTH ENOUGH TO UNDERSTAND FATHER/HUSBAND 'S MORALLY WRONG STEPS. BUT I DID NOT MEAN TO BASH ON THEM SO BAD. JUST BLAMING AS I HAVE A RIGHT TO. I have seen those sons misusing powerful father's power here in Nepal. -THE LEADER "FATHER/HUSBAND" WHO VOWED TO SERVE THE NATION AND PEOPLE. -THE LEADER "FATHER/HUSBAND" WHO IS RESPONSIBLE TO THE SOCIETY, NATION. CAN I HAVE AN ANSWER?.........WHY WE STILL BLAME AND BASH ON "DURBARIYA BHARDARS" WHERE THERE IS KING AND PRINCE EXIST AS A HEAD OF THE NATION ? ...THE ANSWER, I GUESS, IS ; DURBARIYAS ENCOURAGE KING'S EVERY MOVE. OF COURSE "The BOTTOMLINE is.. Lets just talk about "GRJ & CIAA's MOVE" manchhe |
| KaleKrishna | Posted
on 16-Oct-03 11:53 PM
Hey guys wait till the court decides, and what right we have to involve the family members of some one whom we feel is guilty. Comon, guys deep inside our heart we all know we are also involved with corruptions in one way or the other. It is only a matter of quantity and if it was only a handful that were corrupt nation would not be at the state where we find it today. Everyone is corrupt (not necesserily money) and unless the law of the sentences them they are clean. This should not be viewed as an attempt to shield GRJ or anyone else who is corrupt, but an honest repent that I am not clean to throw the first stone, I don't know about U? |
| RBaral | Posted
on 17-Oct-03 04:55 AM
Chordaku420 You are welcome to find out what my bio is. I am neither of the ones you are assuming. In short picture, for your benefit, my information is: 1. I worked for the government of Nepal 2. I completed my Graduate Studies working on a Department of Defense funded project research project 3. Currently, I am working for a government organization in the US. If you want to explore about me more, please email me. And, I maintain my stand that you have gone to far after GRJ. Using a foul language, hiding under a pseudoname, and assuming your belief as fact don't lead you to anywhere. Your lines speak how contradictory they are: >>I do know where Govinde and Khursani Maila's sons and daughters >>are. Let me know If you want to see them.... If you know who they are, why are you assuming me to be their Jwain and stuff? I would not be surprised if my response will wrench your guts, once again. Namaste, Rishi Baral |
| RBaral | Posted
on 17-Oct-03 05:00 AM
Bhunte wrote: >Baral ji, thx for the info. if there are stringent laws against bribers >then they whould also be brought to justice...... I agree with you. In most of the cases, what is causing problem is not that we do not have a law. The law is not practiced. The law enforcing agencies are corrupt. The police is corrupt, the bureaucracy is corrupt, and to begin with, the politicians are corrupt. But, we as Nepalis, should keep our hopes alive that the situation will improve. Namaste, Rishi |
| San | Posted
on 17-Oct-03 05:14 AM
Personally, I think it's common sense that you blame a person commiting a crime and not his/her family. If there is proof that his family aided and abetted him, then it would make sense to blame them. I think it's very narrow minded to blame and harass his children for his deeds. They DO happen to be lucky due to the fact that they had access to lot of money, but that is not because they did anything wrong. It was not their choice. The children should be respected as any other individuals. As long as they have not done anything wrong, they deserve the same respect as any of us deserve. It is simply not right to post their family pic and attempt to subject it to a virtual lynching. |
| Bhunte | Posted
on 17-Oct-03 05:17 AM
Rishi ji, There appears asymmetry in executing current laws in its endeavour to control corruption. Bribers or conpirators who makes politicians corrupt has always remained at large. I understand that political parties need money to run their offices, but at what cost? Given this situation, what do u think of legalizing or instutilizing fund raising campaign just before parliamentary election similar to presidential election in USA. mero pani namaste! |
| Bhunte | Posted
on 17-Oct-03 05:21 AM
Agree with San/RBaral....Let CIA carry out investigaion on public uproar. If GRJ has amassed wealth unduely usurping public position, he deserve legal action.... |
| Chordaku420 | Posted
on 17-Oct-03 05:26 AM
R Baral, You are nothing but Bhusya yourself when you were in Nepal |
| Chordaku420 | Posted
on 17-Oct-03 05:27 AM
Hello, I just found that Whocares is Govinde's Son himself. |
| Chordaku420 | Posted
on 17-Oct-03 06:02 AM
Hey RBaral, Why the F*** you are defending Ghusya like Khursani Maila and Govinde. Like you I am also in USA and If you want to know more then I live in Newark, NJ. |
| dumer_bhansar | Posted
on 17-Oct-03 08:23 AM
Hello Guys, Glad to see CIAA taking actions against these notorious corrupt leaders. I hope the investigation will continue until the truth comes out. There are two things I would like to say. 1) It is completely wrong to drag Joshi family members into this discussion. Period. 2) To Rbaral. Whats wrong with talking about Govinda Raj Joshi? We all know he is a corrupt leader. We know he as earned illegal money, he is a public figure and it needs to be investigated. Plus we saw lots of discussion in Sajha related to other corrupt leaders. Like Kum Bahadur, Wagle, Gupta and so on. What makes you think that we are only singling out Joshi? What is your complain? We need to raise our voice against all corrupt people (as much as we can). Weather he/she is less corrupt or more corrupt. Finally, Chordaku420, lets have some decency here! |
| Nirvana | Posted
on 17-Oct-03 09:20 AM
I agree fully Dumer_Bhansar. Let's leave GRJ's family but go after GRJ and all other corrupt people. RBral says < Yes, we should but now it is high time for us go after any corrupt person we know of. We have right to voice against them be as it from Sajha or any other public forum. We can't keep quite keeping our hope alive for better situation . What have we got keeping quite hoping the law will previl agaist these dirty people.... |
| Gaz | Posted
on 17-Oct-03 10:16 AM
he took his website down http://www.dipak.8m.com/mframe.htm |
| whocares | Posted
on 17-Oct-03 10:41 AM
hi Chordaku420 i guess you have some personal issue with the whole joshi family. you are not only after the GRJ but for all of his family. Do not bring your personal issue on the net. if You have family problem then we do not care about them. all we care is GRJ and he was given the chance to serve the country but he did not. Lets see what courte will decide. I am just a guy from nepal and who loves the country like other and always hate those people who decive home land. how come you drop the decesion that am his son. If his son is the part of the curruption then he will also face the legal action.Try to find if his son is also involve in this whole game so we can come up with some new issue. please think before you write something. It is free to add the comment does not meant that you can add anything you like. Any way it's up to you. that does not make us any different. |
| suva chintak | Posted
on 17-Oct-03 12:32 PM
Just a quick sociological observation: If the sons/daughters/wifes/bhanja/sala/mama and the rest of the kin group know that they might also be at the receiving end of the public wrath over corruption, then the close family circle might put up a strong disincentive for the manti/sachib not to take in ghush and commission. In our strongly kin and family oriented society, a Girija Babu, a Govinda-raj, a Khume Bahadur or any other person don't engage in corruption just for their individual self. Girija doesn't need all that billions for himself...personally he is a very simple man. But he looted for his daughter and the rest of the Koirala clan. They do it more for their family and ista kutumba. So far these family members have been encouraging the mantri to loot the national coffers, because they are the main beneficiaries, yet they face no legal or social action. But if they now know that they could be hounded for the misdeeds of their fathers or sasura, they will exert their influence within the family to prevent corruption before it happens. So if the legal system is weak in Neapal, the kind of public hounding Chordaku 420 is doing here might serve some deterrence function in the public interest. Because of this kind of public scrutiny, when a mantriputra gets a car for a birthday gift from his daddy, instead of saying "Thank you", he will say "Where did this come from? I don't want to share in any of your robbery." The bottom line is: if you share in the loot, you are guilty. When that stage is reached, the corruption index will significantly decline in Nepal. The CIAA can take the lead in this, but the decisive war on corruption must also be fought by relentless public shaming on the one hand and resistance from the family members of those in public positions. When that happens, the leaders and bureaucrats will have more diincentives and little incentive to engage in corruption. By the way, shaming and public humiliation is an ancient method of ensuring that everyone, including the high and mighty, play by the rules. This is how traditional societies were governed before modern courts and laws were established. So let us not be too hard on Chordaku 420 jyu...he is continuing the ancient tradition of public morality. Ghush dinya ra ghush linya dubai rastra ka shatru hun...sabailai chetana bhaya! Now back to the tantoori oven! SC, the occasional political pundit |
| Chordaku420 | Posted
on 17-Oct-03 12:39 PM
I am with you Shuva chintak Bro. Good Throught. |
| Bilbo Baggins | Posted
on 17-Oct-03 12:42 PM
suva chintak Ji ... this world is not an utopia. The sooner people realize that the better. You do not convict people by association. Chordaku420 is being very distructive and behaving like a low class gypsy!! SAN can you do something to prevent him from posting pictures. |
| Chordaku420 | Posted
on 17-Oct-03 01:15 PM
Hey BB, It seems to me tha you are also a member of Ghusya. Please, do not try to defend Ghusya. If you gotta prob for me going crazy against these foos then that tells us that you are a best buddy of GRJ. |
| whocares | Posted
on 17-Oct-03 02:38 PM
I guess now any one can post the anybody's picture on the net. so guys let's find some nasty picture and post here so everbody will see and some people will enjoy( if that makes some one happy). one reqest for the domain manger or the people who own this site. u guys have to be carefull about these thing. i do not have to talk about cyber law here. Do not let people to post pic that offend family thing and social value. |
| Chordaku420 | Posted
on 17-Oct-03 03:35 PM
Hello Guys, I was just told by my buddy in Midwest that Whocares is a relative of Ghusya Govinde. He is trying to be lil smart out here but starting new thread. Hey dude, Do not try to teach us what is right and what is wrong, I know what is right and that's me and you are totally wrong supporting GRJ. Cheers, |
| intruder | Posted
on 17-Oct-03 03:48 PM
Suva Chintak, I find your posting to be fundamentally flawed and out of context of what chordaku is portraying here. While it is OK to condemn those who have knowingly benefited from bribed money, it is not Ok to humiliate someone on a public forum just because of his close association with the culprit. By the way, shaming and public humiliation is an ancient method of ensuring that everyone, including the high and mighty, play by the rules Yes, and ancient method. But I think now we have become smart enough to get right to the root of the problem, the right way, without the humiliation to the friends and the family and associates of the culprit. What chordaku doing is morally and ethically wrong. (I categorically deny any charges that are soon to be brought by chordaku against me) |
| Gaz | Posted
on 17-Oct-03 03:52 PM
GRJ and their family should be punished. chak ma Sisno pani hana parney |
| suva chintak | Posted
on 17-Oct-03 03:53 PM
Let me try my hand at visual-analysis here: The picture above is obviously of someone's wedding. Given that she is a Nepali bride, I can understand why the young woman on the extreme right looks rather disconcerted. But why is everyone else, save for Birendra, so dour looking? Mr. Joshi, Mrs. Joshi, Master Joshi...what is the problem? If you are taking a portrait with such a distinguished guest as the monarch, you can at least afford to put up a smile. Otherwise, why bother inviting him at all? Just my opinion |
| intruder | Posted
on 17-Oct-03 04:02 PM
A little nervous may be? After all, he is the monarch. Just my opinion. |
| barad | Posted
on 17-Oct-03 05:28 PM
well people like govinde,khume etc will try and wriggle themselves out of this situationl legally.the CIAA may not be able to put a water tight case,but by god if he logs on to sajha and reads whast written about him,i believe he will never ever take bribes again. CIAA may never convict these guys,but they have made it clear to the future leaders of nepal that there are repurcussions for such actions. for the moment i think its best to leave the sons out of this thread. |
| KaleKrishna | Posted
on 17-Oct-03 07:28 PM
Chordaku420. First two parts of the name are understandable what about the last part. What does this 420 stand for. I find it interesting that person with so much weight in the psudoname is the most agressive among us all. hey first you said whocares was GRJ son, then you said he is a relative, does not match right stick to one relation. Your bashing of anyone against you as a gushya also does not sound decent. SC ji, that is right it was the case in those times, now everyone has the chance to prove his innocence. Deterence comes from self realization not hounding and outcasting. Sin commited will have to paid for in this very life, as even God find it hard to control coruption in his domain. |
| here&there | Posted
on 18-Oct-03 08:21 AM
guess what I found out guys. Chordaku420 once went to GRJ's home to to get the job and GRJ did not help him that is why he against him. Dude i guess you have perosnal issue with GRJ. Brother your got very low thinking. there is no difference between bad people and u. any way happy surfing on the net. Hope u will get good job some day. |
| Chordaku420 | Posted
on 18-Oct-03 09:03 AM
F*** you biatch, I got better job then you. All I am saying is negative things about that Chor Govinde just because he and his buddies like Khursani Maila, Girija, Bijaya, Kume has ruined my beloved country of Nepal. As a good cvitizen of Nepal I do have oppose all Ghusya. Just Shut your F***ing ugly mouth if no one is your famaily are ghusya. |
| aludai | Posted
on 18-Oct-03 10:03 AM
It sounds like Mr chordaku is full of hatred and I think that makes him an unhappy person. It is essential to enforce order in any society and CIAA is doing all the right thing. Hope the law is enforced uniformy for all the culprits in tha same way. For your own peace of mind Mr chordaku, stop for a moment and think. With all the venom you have, you could actually be making your own life shorter. I have nothing personally against you or GRJ. Just a suggestion. I cannot predict how you are going to react. I am not going to reply if you start hurling your abuse towards me (one possibility). One day you would realise the futility of it. Corruption is a poison at a corner of human mind. It is more potent if there is no system to balance it. Many of your famous communist leaders have done it around the world (as it is basically a dictatorial system). I suppose BRB could be doing it now with the money looted from our banks. Who is going to bring it all to accountability? That is why most of us favour a democratic system. Will see what happens. |
| sankaa | Posted
on 18-Oct-03 10:21 AM
There is nothing wrong to hate corrupted people or corruption in general. However, using' F' word or "B" word in here with each other wouldn't do any good now, would it? |
| Chordaku420 | Posted
on 18-Oct-03 11:24 AM
Hey You tryin to be smarty pant (i.e: Mr. Aludai) Are calling me Commie ?? Atleast Commies are far better than your so called Kangresi netas. |
| here&there | Posted
on 18-Oct-03 01:48 PM
Chordaku420 dude i have pic of your mom with another guy . you want me to post that too. people might enjoy that too. but do not worry i won't do that cause i am not cheap do not have low mentality like you. |
| Bhunte | Posted
on 18-Oct-03 02:16 PM
Whoever's son Deepak is, I found him simple and friendly personality. I don't know how much he has changed in the past 8 years.... |
| Bhunte | Posted
on 18-Oct-03 02:21 PM
Further, Deepak never showed off before me about his dad's position when he was in power...Let's talk about GRJ, but not Deepak in this thread. |
| Chordaku420 | Posted
on 18-Oct-03 02:36 PM
Hey here&there, You son of Ghusya, STOP defending your papa and mama. |
| GP | Posted
on 19-Oct-03 02:07 PM
Can GRJ's son (one in Australia and one in USA) come and defend that they did not use the money their father accumulated outside his basic salary or allowance? If then, I would say they should be spared. A friend of mine who was close to Deepak (while in Nepal) tells that Deepak was so much frustrated with his younger brother in Australia that the younger brother asked for almost 5,000 A$ every month via Hundi. GRJ in 2036 when I saw him first time and hooted him assuming a good guy did not have good polyster ko pants, and he was just a school head master. After 2037, until 2046, he was Jagga dalal did not have enough clients to earn money as lawyer and suddenly in 2046 he had huge money. So, in order to get public criticism the son's of GRJ should be able to speak publicly that they are not beneficeries of GRJ's undeclared resources. Can they? Otherwise, they will always get blame share for not warning their father of the consequences that they may have after GRJ gets involved in those corruptions. GP |
| tankahang | Posted
on 19-Oct-03 04:25 PM
randi ko chora haru.chor ko photo talda timihau ko bau ko ke tauko dukhyo.ta muji haru ko bau le tireko tax ani ke ke aru jodera nepal ko treasury ma add hunu parne paisa timiharu ko arko bau govinde le pachayo ani timiharu ko arko dai le tyai paisa le behe garyo hai.aba tyo grand behe ko highlite garyo chordaku 420 le ramrai garyo ta .pachak bahun haru jatha haru chor. AND FOR THE CLOSE ASSOCIATION MR, NOTHING IS HIDDEN FROM YOU THAT THE GOVINDES SON KNOWS AND USES ALL THE FREAKIN BENEFITS FROM THE MONEY THAT ALL OF YOURS STEP DAD GOVINDE EARNS FROM THE OTHER WAY.GOVINDE KO CHORA KO US MA PETROL PUMP CHA AREE ABA TA BAHUN HARU KO STEP DAI LE PAISA DAKSINA THAPERA KAMAYO NABHAN.GOVINDE KO CHORA HARU IF YOU ARE NOT THE SON OF THAT GRJ AND BROTHER OF HIS SON THEN SHUT UP |
| dumer_bhansar | Posted
on 20-Oct-03 05:23 AM
Guys, I know that Govinda Raj Joshi and Padam Prasad Pokharel are "Samdhi". When Joshi was Home Minister, he made his "Samdhi" Padam Prasad Pokharel Home Secretary. Last week both of them were arrester the same day. Is there any relationship between these two arrests? Can any one from Nepal tell us more? |
| Bhunte | Posted
on 20-Oct-03 05:26 AM
Oh! Samdhi-Samdhi bhet bhayo Ghyampo jatro pet bhayo.. |
| Chordaku420 | Posted
on 20-Oct-03 05:31 AM
Thank You Sathiharu Ho, Shame on GRJ and all of his Ghusya Buddies. 
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| sarada_khanal | Posted
on 20-Oct-03 09:37 AM
Looks like CIAA is mounting pressure on veryone. Including Girija Prasad Koirala. _______ Koirala becomes less defensive of Joshi POST REPORT KATHMANDU, Oct 19 - Nepali Congress (NC) President Girija Prasad Koirala toned down his defence of party Joint General Secretary Govind Raj Joshi in deference to the popular views within the party that it should refrain from going all out in defence of those party persons arrested on corruption charges. "Of course, corruption should be fought against, but the action should be sans prejudice," Koirala said while addressing party workers at a reception organised by the partys local unit today.In fact, he improvised the issue by saying that he was ready to face action from the Commission for the Investigation of the Abuse of Authority (CIAA) "if I have indulged in corrupt practices. But there should not be any prejudicial action." This is being taken as a redefinition coming from Koirala who had on Saturday told the party leaders to stand by Joshi "at this hour of crisis." Meanwhile, Koirala launched yet another verbal attack on the king saying he should not think that the strength of the political parties was whittling away. "Rather than whittling away, we are growing in strength day by day. No one should think that the crisis could be resolved sans the cooperation of the political parties," Koirala said. Koirala also came out strongly to the defence of foreign envoys taking up the cause of the restoration of democratic process. Saying that democracy was becoming more and more an issue going beyond borders, Koirala said no one should be irked by what foreign envoys publicly said in connection with the Nepalese democratic fiasco. He said this by way of saying that while friendly nations were still advocating the restoration of constitutional and political processes, King Gyanendra was still not agreeing to its spirit. However, Koirala still gave ample impression of still believing in reconciliatory attitude by saying "If only the king would either revive the House of Representatives or form an all-party government, we could take on the Maoists collectively. We are not asking for the moon." |
| Chordaku420 | Posted
on 21-Oct-03 09:53 AM
Another CHOR Rabindra Sharma lai pani samate chha CIAA le. That's good news but a the same time he will be released like Chiranjivi (Khursani Maila). Govinde, Chire (Khursani Maila) ,Rabindre, Bijaye need to be punished. |
| here&there | Posted
on 21-Oct-03 09:40 PM
I guess people stop talking about corruption now. Why only certain people. Rabindra Nath Sharma was arrested and no body talk about him. I heard that he came here to manage the money he made in Nepal. I guess him and certain people can make money. Can any body tell me that who can make money form corruption and who cant? |
| Chordaku420 | Posted
on 22-Oct-03 05:23 AM
Here&there Bro, We should condemn everyone not only Govinde. I think Rabindre, Khursani maila, Bijaya, Khume and Govinde ko chaak ma Khrsani dalnu parchha. I have noticed some of these folks here in SAJHA are defending Khursani Maila and Govinde just because they happened to be Ghusya's Natedaar. Chhak Ma SISNO PANI LE HANNNU PARCHHA GOVINDE, KHUME, CHIRANJIVE and RAVINDRA LAI. |
| sarada_khanal | Posted
on 22-Oct-03 09:51 AM
Looks like more details about Joshi's illegal wealth are coming out. According to the following news piece, Joshi and Sujata Koirala are working together to hide illegal money in a bank in India. And CIAA has been investigating it. No wonder why Girija has been criticizing CIAA the most. Girija knows the game well. If Joshi is convincted, his daughter will be in same boat. From Dristi Weekly (Tuesday, October 21, 2003, Kartik 04th, 2060) Title: Joshi's account in Indian Bank http://www.nepalnews.com.np/contents/nepaliweekly/dristi/2003/oct/oct21/ |
| Bhunte | Posted
on 22-Oct-03 02:15 PM
- http://www.nepalnews.com.np/contents/nepaliweekly/dristi/2003/oct/oct21/ |
| Chordaku420 | Posted
on 23-Oct-03 07:56 PM
Oye, I hate when some of you guys are defending these stupids cock sucking GHUSYAS. Same on you Guys. If you are none then you must be son of Ghusya (Like Dipak Joshi) or Juwain of GHUSYA (ie: Rbaral). |
| RBaral | Posted
on 24-Oct-03 04:51 AM
Chordaku420 While I respect your patriotic ingenuity of accusing and uncovering Ghusyahas of our country, I maintain my stance that I am not the one you seem to assume. My stance is to oppose your accusation that is directed to ME. I am more than supportive to any movement conducive to punishing corrupt politicians of our country. Namaste, Rishi |
| Chordaku420 | Posted
on 28-Oct-03 01:26 PM
I got nothing against anyone of you as long as you do not defend Suckers like Govinde, Khursani Mailo, Rabindre, Bijaye, Khume, Sajata (GP's Chhori) and most of Ghusya Sachives. 
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| Chordaku420 | Posted
on 28-Oct-03 01:27 PM
Girija pani kam Hoina. Hawaldaar Moro. 
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| golkhandi | Posted
on 28-Oct-03 05:41 PM
Thukka haldaar laaj pacheko nakkacharo.Desh khattam parne ma number one tain hos.Ajhai pani p.m. banne sapana dekhachhas . Govinde,Khume,Bijay gachchhedaar,Chikuwa,(chiranjivi kumar wagle) ko naike tain hoinas?Tero buddi ma kira parna kina nasakeko hola? |
| dumer_bhansar | Posted
on 03-Nov-03 11:49 AM
Interesting artilce About Govinda Raj Joshi from The People's Review. http://www.peoplesreview.com.np/p-review/2003/10/23102003/cia.html |
| Chordaku420 | Posted
on 03-Nov-03 12:51 PM
THUKKA GOVINDE |
| Chordaku420 | Posted
on 04-Nov-03 04:48 AM
Anti-corruption rally organised Post Report KATHMANDU, Nov 3 - Representatives from various organisations and civil society took part in the rally with the slogan Lets get-together in support of the peoples movement against corruption and bad governance organised by the National Peoples Movement Committee Against Corruption (NPMCAC) here today. The statement issued on the occasion said that corruption and bad governance was the root cause of present chaos and disorder in the country and the movement was necessary to pressurise the responsible body. The committee charged that instead of working against such irregularities, responsible bodies kept on hoodwinking. As a result,organisation like NPMCAC had to come up with such a bold action. The committee also demands that all those who were issued a letter by the Commission for the Investigation of Abuse of Authority (CIAA) for abusing power should be punished as soon as possible. It also states that those who are not able to take action against those corrupt people should give up their jobs. The statement also stresses that even corruptpeople within the commission need to be punished. It states, industries which were sold in the name of privatisation need investigation. People charged for Lauda, Dhamija, China South West, L.C. must be punished, the statement says. Every transaction related to loan, supports, social service and donation should be transparent and income and expenditure of all the parties should be made public, itadds. The rally that started from Pradarsani Marg went along the major thoroughfares of Kathmandu and Lalitpur. |
| dumer_bhansar | Posted
on 04-Nov-03 06:33 AM
From Nepalnew.com Former minister Joshi's remand extended Special Kathmandu court Tuesday extended the remand of former minister Govinda Raj Joshi another 15 days to prepare corruption charges against him, court officials said. The first 20-day remand expired Saturday. The CIAA had sought a 30-day extension. The court also extended the remands of former secretaries Padma P. Pokhrel and Chakrabandhu Aryal for an additional 15 days. nepalnews.com br Nov.4 |
| Chordaku420 | Posted
on 11-Nov-03 05:49 AM
SC throws out writ filed by Joshi KOL Report KATHMANDU, Nov 11 - The Supreme Court has dismissed the writ petition filed by former minister and also the joint secretary of Nepali Congress Govinda Raj Joshi. The joint bench of justices Kedar Prasad Giri and Khil Raj Regmi ordered to dismissal the petition filed by Joshi Tuesday. Hearing on the writ concluded last week. Earlier, Joshi filed a habeas corpus writ at the apex court two weeks ago claming that Commission for the Investigation of Abuse of Authority (CIAA) has detained him illegally. In the petition, Joshi claimed that the anti-graft body has detained him on the basis of report prepared by Judicial Probe Commission on Property, which is yet to be made public. He has also challenged the order by the Special Court to extend his judicial remand in the petition. The Supreme Court order means that the CIAA will now be able to investigate the allegations against him on charges that he amassed wealth through illegal means. Joshi remains in judicial custody following an extension of his detention by the Special Court by 15 days on Monday. (bg) Once, they put Govinde and Khurani maila in Jail they will be killed by Maoist inside the Jail. F**k these two, they are the one who started taking GHUS at the first place. |
| Chordaku420 | Posted
on 17-Nov-03 08:48 AM
Govinde lai paata kasera rakhnu parchha. Ek patak matra jail bata bahira aayo bhane AMRIKA aaune bichar gareko chha tesle. Amrika ko visa cancel garera nepal kai mugaln pathaunu parchha. Badmaas sale. Remands extended Kathmandu special court extended the remand of former minister and Nepali Congress leader Gobinda Raj Joshi for another 15 days Monday to prepare corruption charges against him, court sources said. CIAA had sought the extension. The court also extended for remands of former secretaries Padma Prasad Pokhrel and Chakrabandhu Aryal for an additional 12 days. This is the third time their remands were extended after their arrests 35 days ago |