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| Harry |
Posted
on 08-Jul-01 12:14 AM
I think everyone posting and reading messages on this site knows that the Maoist problem is probably the worst that has gripped Nepal since the earthquake of 1990 Bikram Sambat. I would like to propose my opinion on solving this.
First of all, it's important to realize that it can be solved only by peaceful means. In other words, no brutality by either the police or the military is needed.
1. The government has to engage in a massive propaganda aimed at logically foiling every argument that Maoists put forth in front of people. The government could air half an hour to hour long programmes on radio, tv etc. It could publish informative reports in Newspapers about the development works being done.
2. The government must play by the rules of non-violence: no police excesses should ever be allowed. In other words, the general public should be informed that the police is there to protect them. The public should have a channel for reporting the wrong-doings of the police and the government must take action against the corrupt police.
Yes, you can argue that these things should be obvious to the people. But remember, more than half of the people in Nepal are illiterate and even those who are literate, they don't have much to say about improving things there: just listen to what our elected representatives in the parliament say and do.
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| LIC |
Posted
on 08-Jul-01 01:09 AM
Remember how Indians countered the Khalistan movement, which was much more potent?
Much like this People's War, many Sikh villagers in Punjab were carrying guns without quite realizing why. India waged a multi-pronged attack: propoganda war, exemplry mobilization of armed forces (by someone with M.S. Gill's stature/capability?), even turning the enemies against each other.
But one factor that was always loaded on Indian government's favor: Punjab is a prosperous place, and it was just a matter of time before the people there began to tire of the excesses. It would be interesting to hear from experts on internal conflicts/insurgencies.
I like Dumdum's idea of good policing. Whether it be the police or the army, they may curb the Maoists to some extent - and that for a short term - but I don't see that as a long-term solution. People's War is far too deep-seated now for the police, or the army ("outsiders"), to handle without a strong local support. That calls for enormous political will.
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| Dumdum |
Posted
on 08-Jul-01 01:27 AM
What I can say now is,Harryji, none of the killed police or people
are obviously none of your relatives/friends or even char paise
sainowala persons.
Peaceful approach?
Let me ask you one question, do you think that if our present
beaurocracy is corrupt,we should go to Maoism? No. Even if our
present civil force can't deliver any good thing, we can't welcome
Maoists as our ruler.Because democracy is a system, even in its
corrupt status, hundred times better than the system brought by
likes of Polpot.
We need good propoganda war. We also need to protect the govt
establishment made by our tax money which terrorists are
currently destroying. That is our money, stupid, and
that is being destroyed by our Maoist comrades.I think MS Gill
is good example, but same model was not applicable to
Kashmir,let's not forget.My point is same model doesn't succeed
everywhere.Furthermore, Rolpa etc are not prosperous are either.
These hopeless people may never be tired of fighting, because
some of them are no longer 'people's fighter' but mercenary(They
get money now as sallary.)
So many police are dying. One police comes from poor family. Often
the backbone of that family also rests on his income.(No decent
economic condition's family now supports idea of sending their
children to maoist area.) Do we have any idea how many children
are orphaned?(Poor and uneducated police are more likely to have
more than one children, and given their age, they all are also
likely to have very young children,and frail women who didn't get
enough nourishment during delivery)
I think it is time we give up our prejudice, and support police
force. This may well be first good thing they are doing since
they were established.
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| LIC |
Posted
on 08-Jul-01 02:02 AM
How can the government stand mute when the Maoists are resorting to an all-out war? Gandhi's nonviolence was waged against much civilzed British rulers. But I agree one hundred percent with the idea that "the public should have a channel for reporting the wrong-doings of the police and the governemnt must take action against the corrupt police."
Forget Nepal police, or army for that matter, winning either the war on the ground, or the propoganda war, agianst the Maoists. The police especially inspires very little public confidence. I feel sorry (and despair) at the continued deaths of police, but let that not cloud our judgement: Nepal police is a thoroughly corrupt institution that has lost its morale/dynamism under such assholes as Govinda Raj Joshi, and Bamdev Gautam over the years. Routinely bullied by their seniors and political parties in power, self-respecting police officers have lost their motivation, and turned into yes-ministers.
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| EastSideBoy |
Posted
on 09-Jul-01 12:04 PM
The only solution now is to use the army to crush the rebellion ruthlessly. Kill Baburam and Prachanda and all the top leaders.
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| MrBoston |
Posted
on 09-Jul-01 01:06 PM
Govt. of Nepal has no Balls. All these people killed and what are they doing ??? sitting on their asses watching tamasa. If they cannot do the job they've got to go. Bring on someone that can. Maybe even a military leader(like pakistan). If there is no law and order there is nothing. If this continues it just might be Kashmir of NEPAL. They should jail all those corrupt politicians, seize all their property(just leave then enough according to their real salary). Then restore law and order. And capture those Maoists and hold them responsible as well, for all the killings.
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| Wamitaksar |
Posted
on 09-Jul-01 01:11 PM
Peru crushed the Shining Path when it arrested the leader and paraded him in a cage in Lima. You may recall protests at the time in Nepal! But it worked. Surely if Prachanda and Baburam were out of the picture the Maoists would collapse, as with Shining Path in Peru and Khmer Rouge in Cambodia after Pol Pot's death.
However, Peru used US money and CIA help to find this fellow. Maoist fantasies nothwithstanding, the US does not have strategic interest in Nepal. Why would CIA bother to help find Baburam and Prachanda? The government is on its own for this. Which does not augur well.
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| LIC |
Posted
on 10-Jul-01 12:21 AM
'If this continues it just might be Kashmir of NEPAL.'
Exactly. For all of you who refuse to take lessons from history, Kashmir in fact shows that you can never crush the will of the people with guns.
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| LIC |
Posted
on 10-Jul-01 12:28 AM
The top half of the posting is not there!!!
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| EastSideBoy |
Posted
on 10-Jul-01 01:38 AM
"The will of the people cannot be supressed with guns." Your words, LC, not mine. If you believe in this crap, then you haven't read history. History shows us that time and again, the will of the people have been crushed with guns and tanks.
In the case of Nepal, it is not even the will of the majority. The majority want peace and democracy. And to achieve that the majority also wants to crush the bloody rebellion of the minority terrorists.
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| HellBentMaoist |
Posted
on 10-Jul-01 02:17 AM
"The will of the people cannot be supressed with guns." LC.
If Maoist think that Power comes from barrle of the gun, then,
why not government or public think the power to crush Maoist
comes from the same barrel of gun. What is missing in Nepal,
is the real interest on government's policy makers. They do
not have interst in total crushing the Maoists. They have
recently used 11crores of rupees, where? Distributed within
themselves, they are now so much corrupt that you can not
expect them to kill an insect, forget those Maoists.
Now, police lags moral, public has full of frustration, and
lags optmistic thought, opposition lags co-operation,
intellectual mass lags professionalism, journalists lag
real journalism, ..... so today, we don't have feeling
or sense of our responsibility. Medical doctors are
politicians, engineers are vandalizers, lawyers are
gangsters, ... . .. . ., we have forgotten who we
are in fact? Our public responsibility and dignity.
Do I have dignity? Confusingly, not sure.
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