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| bahadur |
Posted
on 18-Oct-03 12:44 PM
nepalipost lai maoiestle paisa dinchha ki kya ho? Girish le Americama doller kamaune ani maobadi banne laz chhaina. Stupid.
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| Chordaku420 |
Posted
on 18-Oct-03 10:01 PM
Com'on Man,
When you are in USA then you can have Free Speach. I think Maobadis are far better than Gyane and his gundas.
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| golkhandi |
Posted
on 19-Oct-03 09:55 AM
Kasle bhanyo ha Giris lai maobadi?Giris ta America ma paisa kamayera khobadi po ta .Mukh samhalera bola,natra golkhandi halidiula.
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| akela |
Posted
on 19-Oct-03 11:22 AM
Haina, Tyo Chief editor ani editor dubaika sara family americama khaobadi bhayeka chhan. Ani kasari maoists lai support gare ko. Laz chhaina. Maoists lai support garna ta jungle janu ya india bhagnu ni. kaso ho? Khaobadi birudda ladnu parchha.
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| tender rose |
Posted
on 19-Oct-03 11:25 AM
hehehe. :D chordaku420 dai, you have a point, but i don't really like what the maobadis have in mind.
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| akela |
Posted
on 19-Oct-03 11:35 AM
americama basera maoists lai support garne ho bhane bholinai nepal janu, jungletira. Maoists are criminals.
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| barad |
Posted
on 19-Oct-03 01:45 PM
CHOR DAAKU 420 .........ummm no wonder u support the maoist!!!
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| GP |
Posted
on 19-Oct-03 01:57 PM
American ma basne haru lai ta news chahiyeko chha. They move with winds and
they are not the suferer of Maoist, and therefore they make propaganda in favor
of Maoists. Don't worry RNA is now working well, killing more than a dozen Maosits
every day. I am really happy to read that news. Sweep them out. I hope RNA
will achieve. I am sure in a few months Maoists will agains announce their
ceasefire, but, no one will trust them and that ceasefire will go in vain as it
happened during Dashain period. Now is the time for RNA either win or lose,
there is no gray zone.
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| akela |
Posted
on 19-Oct-03 02:37 PM
You are right, GP,
Terroristharu lai hataye pachhinai hamro desh mahan hunchha. Maoists terroristlai support garne tyo nepalipost ko againstma kehi garnai parchha. Tyo nepalipostle terrorist baburam , hisila ra arko terrorist prachand ra risiraj lumsaliko gulami gareko chha. Toy pradhan sampadak ra sampadak ko sabai family americama doller kamairaheko chha.
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| akela |
Posted
on 19-Oct-03 02:41 PM
KATHMANDU: Chased by the Nepal Army, the Maoists from Nepal are now shifting their base from west Nepal to east Nepal, creating a new threat to Sikkim and north Bengal.
The militants had already been using these places for shelter and as a corridor. Highly-placed Central intelligence sources said a team of Maoist frontmen had entered Sikkim, even the capital Gangtok, to collect funds during the Diwali festival.
Though the extortion demands were not made public, the amounts were sizeable. The shifting of their activities to the Sikkim border had created problems because the strength of the special service bureau is inadequate.
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| barad |
Posted
on 19-Oct-03 06:54 PM
ya GP u are right,theres more conviction on the part of the RNA.The maoist rhetoric of being equal in strength ito the RNA is just rhetoric,these rebels may be motivated and battle hardened,but they are poorly armed,and poorly trained.Plus their strategy of urban geurilla warfare will start backfiring,it will only make them more unpopular,drive the political parties closer to the king.
one thing is for sure,innocent people are gonna die more this time,there will be more tragic deaths like the schoolchildren last week.
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| khatri |
Posted
on 20-Oct-03 05:43 AM
Better !!! better!!!! Because to kill their own nepali for prachanda is better wa! you ....
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| thaag |
Posted
on 20-Oct-03 07:57 AM
aba tyo girish and co.'s yaha asylum halera basne ani maobadi ko patrika chalaune...
Kya gajab chha ba..........
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| Nepe |
Posted
on 20-Oct-03 02:25 PM
I have known Girish Pokharel for a period over two years and have contributed three politically conscious ghazals in his magazine, the Nepalipost. I feel it my obligation to reply to Bahadur ji and other gentlemen's accusation suggesting Girish is a supporter of the Maoist or is spreading Maoist propaganda through his magazine.
First of all, these gentlemens' displeasure seems to be to see the writings of Baburam Bhattarai, Hisila Yami and others in Nepalipost.
I will like to share an anecdote from the anniversary program of Nepalipost organized in Mt. Everest restaurant a year ago. One gentleman had the same question with Girish. Girish gave a candid and honest answer. But the more interesting thing was what another attendant, Dr. Anup Pahari (I hope our Sajhaites in this thread have heard of his credentials and reputation ) said. He said he salutes Girish for doing exactly what was questioned.
If Bahadur ji and co-posters think that publishing Maoists' article makes Girish a pro-Maoists, I would suggest these gentlemen to take a course on Journalism 101. That was also what Dr. Pahari's salute to Girish meant.
Bahadur ji and co-posters, would you not accuse CNN and BBC, which airs the interviews with Maoists, of spreading Maoist propaganga ? By the way, Girish is an occasional reporter of BBC too.
If you guys are wondering about Girish's personal political views, all I can say is this- if you think he is a Maoist, trust me, I, Nepe, am more Maoist than he possibly is.
Anybody for lynching me ?
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GP ji,
You did not take Girish's name, but the following sentence of yours is very suggestive,
American ma basne haru lai ta news chahiyeko chha. They move with winds and
they are not the suferer of Maoist, and therefore they make propaganda in favor
of Maoists.
You live at a walking, okay driving, distance from Girish Pokharel. You might want to have a chat with him. I am sure he is going to benefit from mature wisdom of yours. Just a suggestion, ni.
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| MohanGopal |
Posted
on 20-Oct-03 07:59 PM
Nepe Ji,
I don't know much about the Nepali Post guy, but I certainly can tell a lot about Anup Pahari.
I don't know what you meant by "Dr. Anup Pahari (I hope our Sajhaites in this thread have heard of his credentials and reputation ) said." Just because someone has Ph.D does not make that guy an intelectual one. And you are asuming that he is a well reputed man. Over 95% of those who have associated with him despise him. His arrogance is certainly is a short sale.
It takes unconditional sacrifice, passion, and contribution and ability to reason out etc for someone be a real intelect. I did admire your reasoning until now. And now here you come, and without even thinking made Mr. Pahari the highly intellectual one. How did you come to a conclusion that he is infact regarded highly in DC area? what made you believe in this? What kind of work have you seen from him that you just assumed him as someone who is regarded very highly in DC?
This is a real problem. It is a culture. so long as we remain captive in this type of culture, then you have been writing nothing but all crap all along. Please stop yelling at the crooks in Nepal.
MohanGopal
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| Chordaku420 |
Posted
on 21-Oct-03 06:49 AM
I do not like Anup Pahari as well. I have met him severalal times in DC gatherings and I found him to be a really arrogant and mean Fellow.
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| GP |
Posted
on 21-Oct-03 08:01 AM
NePe jyu,
If you read the articles by "NepaliPost Pratinidhi", you can clearly find
the lack of journalism and its completely biased.
What they (NepaliPost peoples) are trying to do is to cash the
"secured feeling" of those living in America. None in US have
to sufer from Maoists and they are surely frustrated with
past NC or UML govt. and Gyanendra, and the frustrations
make them to favor Maoists, and they in fact don't have
first hand or close to first hand knowledge of what Maoists
are doing. For example, Binod Chaudhary was asked to
pay 1 crore rupees by Maoists or face death. Binod Chaudhary
is now on hide. You can imagine the consequences, but, you
read the NepaliPost Pratinidhi 's articles Maoists are protrayed
as if Saints for the peoples........... Shame on NepaliPost Peoples,
if they call it Journalism. What I know is that Reporters of news,
should put news not their views. Here, news are posted
full of their views as if a mukhpatra. The reporting does not allow
readers to judge, but, writers have forced readers to buy their
views. Thats why NepaliPost is a propaganda, and they are
adding a little bit views of opponents to illude others that "Hey
we are not Maoist Propaganda-oists", the NepaliPost
peoples and Human rights organizations in Nepal are sailing in the
same boat as Maoists.
GP.VA
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| thaag |
Posted
on 21-Oct-03 08:49 AM
I agree with GP...Nepali post is acting like maobadi's unofficial Mukhpatra..Why in the world no one would publish baburam's signed letter and his wife's interview but Nepali post. In a layman's view this shows some kind of association between them.
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| akela |
Posted
on 21-Oct-03 09:01 AM
You are right GP,
Toy nepali post ko editors haru americama asylem liyera baseka chhan. Tiniharulai maoists ko pida thah a chhaina. Sara family yetai bhayepachhi Maoists Mukhapatra chalauna ke bhayo ra? Nepalipost herema thaha hunchha 1,2 wata article bahek sabai pro maoists articles haru matra chhan. We have to punish them. death of maoists.
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| MohanGopal |
Posted
on 21-Oct-03 10:59 AM
The Nepali post dude was a man who associated mostly with the left wingers in the past. Eventhough, he may say that he is not associated with the Maoists, his feelings/actions toward the left favors him much to the left and the maoists than any other political views. Not that there is anything wrong with having a belief in such principle. However, what is wrong is to deny it while believing it. Is it called a hypocrite?
MG
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| isolated freak |
Posted
on 21-Oct-03 12:05 PM
"everyone in my clique is intelligent, good looking, educated, thoughtful, wise and of course, 200 times better than anyone.."
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| YoNepaliThito |
Posted
on 21-Oct-03 05:55 PM
I agree that Dr. A.P should take anger management class to improve his dictatorial habit of dealing with people. I heard he once said Maoist will never go back to jungle again in a talk program and looks like they did not listen to him and off they went marching.
Regarding Nepalipost.com, I think the guys are sincerely trying their best to give unbiased news from Nepal. RNA and Govt don't send their press releases by e-mail to Nepalipost and besides major newspaper from nepal already carry the news.
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| noname |
Posted
on 21-Oct-03 06:09 PM
Publicizing may be wrong, but publishing their (Maoists) activities (to best inform the readers) is what fair journalism is for. Even Osama's tapes get fair share in American media!
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| Nepe |
Posted
on 21-Oct-03 09:16 PM
I haven't got a chance to see Anup Pahari's 'arrogance' as yet. So I am not qualified to comment on that. To my eyes, he is an outspoken and very intelligent man with a deep understanding of Nepal's socio-political problem. That's great enough for me. Being outspoken often appears being arrogant to those who differ in views. So I will keep my judgment for now. If he is indeed arrogant, as they say, it's not my problem. In any case, my argument was not about his personality. It was about his rating of the Nepalipost.
Everybody is entitled to to his/her opinion. In my view, there is nothing objectionable about the Nepalipost. In fact Girish is doing a commendable job of maintaining a very high journalistic standard by making it totally free for all. Whether it is a royalist crap, Maoist rhetoric or a fine and balanced piece by our own Sajhaites, Nepalipost is a free outlet. This rather than Girish's personal political views should matter more.
I have been reading his editorials. He sounds very sound, reasonable and compassionate person. When he condemns Maoist violence in his editorials, he does not sound he is faking.
Just today, I learned he managed to collect $1000.00 and already sent to the family of the journalist, Gyanendra Khadka, who was murdered by Maoists. But I feel it ridiculous to tell this to those who accuse him of being a Maoist.
Judging from his magazine, his works and personality I have come to known, if he is a Maoist, my salute to a Maoist.
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| mitra 2 |
Posted
on 22-Oct-03 07:09 AM
I personally know Girish Pokharel and the Nepalipost team. All I know is that they are providing a great service to us for free. If you guys read the objectives, they welcome all kinds of views and publish without editing. Their ONLY goal is not to affiliate with a party or political view. And, to blame them for such is not fair.
If you want challenge the views or content, it should be directed to the writer itself. Publish your views ( whether it is pro-king, anti-king, pro-maoist, anti-maoist, pro-democracy and what not) at your own risk. We can discuss here if they don't give space to your views as promised. Otherwise, let's appreciate their work and encourage them to do a better job giving a constructive feedback.
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| suva chintak |
Posted
on 22-Oct-03 08:14 AM
Folks,
I think we are talking about a rather simplistic version of journalistic neutrality or 'objectivity' regarding Nepalipost.
Let us work with an example to substantiate this claim. Take the example of the New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, and the Boston Globe. All three dailies regularly carry news stories and essays about both the Republican Party and the Democratic Party. Does that mean these papers are neutral regarding their political affiliations? Of course not! They clearly affiliated to one or the other party in their orientation and so advance the interest of that party through the selection of news and editorials, and the particular slant they give to it.
Nobody can read the Boston Globe carefully and say "Oh, this is free press. This paper is very objective concerning the Democratic and the Republican parties because both sides are included in its coverage." The bias in media does not come from lack of coverage only, it comes from the way something is covered. The bias against Islam/Arab in the American media does not come from lack of coverage, it comes from how Islam/Arab is represented.
You can take the example of Dristi weekly and the Gorkhapatra daily in Nepal. Of course their official claim is that they are objective papers. But do we ever doubt that one is a mouthpiece for the UML and the other for the government?
In the same way, the people in this thread who thought the Nepalipost was pro-Maoist are not saying that the paper does not have any news from the government side. What they are saying is that Nepalipost's selection of news, views, and editorials gives the impression of favoring the Maoist position.
I would not say that it is wrong to be sympathetic to the Maoists either. We are all entitled to our faiths and beliefs. But it is better if we can also stand by our faiths and own up to our position: what gets the reading confused is when newspapers/magazines consistently propagate one ideological position, but when the reading public recognizes this slant, the papers simply deny it to say "Oh no, we have been so neutral all along!"
Wishing you all a better coverage!
SC, the occasional media analyst
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| Biggy Small |
Posted
on 22-Oct-03 12:33 PM
Its not sufficient to beat the Maoist. After the RNA defeats the Maoists with or without the help of external sources, we the citizens of Nepal should demand that Babu Ram, Prachanda and Mahara (BPM) be hanged to death in KTM under a live telecast from Nepal Television. This act will prevent any other people from doing the bloody act they have done in Nepal. If the govt doesn't agree to do that all the people should rally to where ever they live pull them out and do it themselves. I am sure the RNA or the police wouldn't object to it after seeing so many of their own die. Hang BPM to death.
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| Biswo |
Posted
on 23-Oct-03 06:37 PM
I rarely visited Nepali Post before. Now that some zealots here are calling for persecution of its editor, I went to read the stuffs there. I didn't find anything that one should object to.
But again, who are these people who are calling for the blood of the editor? Who are these people who label everybody they disagree with as Maoist supporter? Cloaked behind anonymity and doing the writing of comfort, these are the people whose tolerance level is so low that they parallel their supposed arch enemy: they treat the journalists who disagree with them the same way the Maoists did. To them, Gyanendra should be equally powerful dictator the way Maoists cadre would like Prachanda to be. These are the bedfellows in their narrow view and retrogressive vision for future of Nepal. These people are so similar to the Maoists in their ideology and behaviour that they appear more or less separated at birth.
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| Chordaku420 |
Posted
on 23-Oct-03 07:50 PM
I am with you Biswo, I happen to support your argument all the time. I think, You are fair and forget about these stupid guys from ruling clan. They are none but son of GHUSYA.
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| Biswo |
Posted
on 24-Oct-03 10:25 AM
Thanks C420.
We don't really have to agree all the time. What is important is that we live in harmony despite our differences.
I remember you once said you're from Chitwan. So, I hope to meet you someday and have a little chat.
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| Chordaku420 |
Posted
on 24-Oct-03 07:55 PM
Hello Bishwo,
Thank You Bro,
Unlike some of these folks here in Sajha you are completly fair. I have noticed one thing about these FOOS, they are nothing but bunch of stupids (Rana/Saha/Ghusya)'s son and their relatives.
No, I am not from Chitwan but my brother's sasurali in in Chitwan and i used to go there pretty often when I was in Nepal.
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| akela |
Posted
on 15-Nov-03 04:45 PM
aahile Americale Maoists lai criminals bhaneko chha . Ke aba Nepalipost ka editorsle maoist ka interview ra articles chaplan ta?
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