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| tender rose |
Posted
on 19-Oct-03 10:47 AM
hare shiva!! Yo maths le taukai khaisakyo!! aaja mero sis sanga kura bha, she thinks not doing maths h.w. is sexy. hey guys and gals o' the wild west!!! what d'you think? post quickly hai! i'll be waitin' me, im new round here!
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| SimpleGal |
Posted
on 19-Oct-03 11:23 AM
Tender rose,
I hear you! Used to feel the same thing about Math class as a kid...Regret it now thought. Math is power bhanchhan, so try your best! Practice makes perfect. I'm sure your sister was only kidding ;)
Good Luck!
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| tender rose |
Posted
on 19-Oct-03 12:41 PM
anyone wanna reply?
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| M.P. |
Posted
on 19-Oct-03 01:00 PM
>>>she thinks not doing maths h.w. is sexy
I thought it was the opposite, i.e. doing maths is sexy. It gets a little "less sexier" when you work your ass off through out the semester and land up getting a C+, but I think that's the fun part.
Unbounded,
M.P.
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| M.P. |
Posted
on 19-Oct-03 01:00 PM
>>>she thinks not doing maths h.w. is sexy
I thought it was the opposite, i.e. doing maths is sexy. It gets a little "less sexier" when you work your ass off through out the semester and land up getting a C+, but I think that's the fun part.
Unbounded,
M.P.
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| ru |
Posted
on 19-Oct-03 01:13 PM
maths is like medicine...a cure for ignorance; it might not taste great and the result is not guaranteed but then at the end of the day we just shut up and drink it...one spoonful before every exam.
my two cents.
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| mickthesick |
Posted
on 19-Oct-03 03:08 PM
..i dunno about others but i love maths.....calculus is so fun and interesting......
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| czar |
Posted
on 19-Oct-03 04:00 PM
There was a sister of Rosie
who couldn't add 2z and 2z.
She said, "Can't it be
"without that ol' z?"
She's being a little too choosy!
An then..
A fair-maid from North Miami
was at work on the triple-whammy.
She tried subtraction
and partial fractions
then she called for her pappy and mammy.
It is said she has Curves and Intersections
to which the lads want Integration not Diffrential,
an she'll Sine or Cosine so long as they're not on a Tangent!
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| Biswo |
Posted
on 19-Oct-03 04:26 PM
czar, a nice poem:-)
I don't think there is any short cut in math. It is hard work, repeated practice (may I suggest you to spend less time in TV and web, and spend more time doing these math problems?) and falling in love with more difficult problems that ultimately makes you successful in math.
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Scoring full marks in math exams in highschool is not rarity. Not if you are a first boy in your class. A lot of sajha dudes have done that, I guess.
One of the sajhaites, as I knew it from his narration, had once scored a string of full marks in highschool math courses. But in his school, no one really cared how much one scored in class 9 or class 10. All that mattered was SLC score. "You have to score above 95" A big fat teacher who considered himself Samrat of mathematics used to thunder in the class, "anything less than that doesn't help you to go to good college."
The sajhaite loved math because no one would subtract points even after doing the problems correctly. One could write a whole page for a 'descriptive' question in Nepali, and yet all he could get was six out of ten. Ditto for English or Sanskrit or Itihaas. But math, you get a bang for a buck.
On the day of math exam, he did all questions carefully. Since there was still plenty of time left, he did most of the questions again, using alternative tricks. "Tricks", his teacher had once said, "are what matters in math. You have to remember them. They save you in your life even when you are going through difficult times."
When the transcripts arrived to the school, the math teacher was the first one to look at the grades. He came out, and patted at the back of the sajhaite.
"How much did I score?" The sajhaite asked.
"Jammai (Everything)." The teacher replied, his eyes popped in incredulity, his hands waived semicircularly. It was 100.
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| oys_chill |
Posted
on 19-Oct-03 05:51 PM
MATHS > Mentally Affected Teachers Harrassing Students :(
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| DWI |
Posted
on 19-Oct-03 06:26 PM
In short, the key to math = repeated practice.
I used to wonder what good are those trigonometric class for those students who aren't majoring in Science. What about those geometry and even algebra? But through out the years, I've found math teaches more that what it intends to. You strengthen your logical sensory and problem solving capabilities via math. You start exploring many ways of solving a problem and thus will be able to make better decisions in para-math problems.
So, give it a little respect. And again, just keep practicing the problems. THat is the only way you can ace the exam.
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| forget-me-not |
Posted
on 19-Oct-03 06:38 PM
tender rose,
you sound so tender ..you seem young.
I used to be a Maths teahcer long time back, and like you some of my students in class used to hate maths, the worse part, it was compulsory subject in O Levels.
I used to give them a lot of pratice and used to renmind them to practice, pratice till you are fully confident. Another way to do that is to try different problems which are not from your text books like from math fun book and stuff. That way, you maybe have interest in that...
I myslef used to love Maths and ever since then , it has always been an asset to me. I still remeber one of Maths teacher slapped me in a class just because I solved a Maths problem from a scottish maths book (the one we were using school then) which he could not. I can never forget that.
Wish you all the best so that you do not run away from it but overcome it...take it as a challenge, and try to solve it....and master maths, don't let it scare you..
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| Arnico |
Posted
on 19-Oct-03 11:13 PM
I agree with MP. Doing the Math HW is waaaaay better.
Don't fall behind. Try to do the hw right when you get it.
There was one semesterwhen I was consistently three problem sets behind... got nothing out of class time because I could not follow along, and everything took much longer. Not worthwhile!
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| tender rose |
Posted
on 20-Oct-03 08:58 AM
thanx people for aiding me. Merci beau coup.
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| thaag |
Posted
on 20-Oct-03 09:24 AM
Math=power..........Just do it.
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| Once_again |
Posted
on 20-Oct-03 10:08 AM
Hi tender rose ji,
Looking to u'r problem, to be honest, I could not clearly understand whether math wasn't u'r major and unfortunately u had to study as a complementary to u'r major or, u had interest in maths, but even trying so hard u couldn't get what u wanted. I am also not sure which level are u in. If u had mentioned the level of math course u're taking, it would have been easier to answer specifically, simply and clearly.
Anyway, for me solving mathematical problems needs cetain technique. I do not mean simple techniques like addition or subtraction or differentiation or integeration only. But, others too. When professors or teachers do harder problems in blackboard or assign harder problems, it eventually becomes, it degrades our self-confidence as we can't think about the problem. Its something very worrysome. But, don't take it in that way. When u first approach a problem (may be of h.w), try to do something about it. Note the numbers or units or any thing about it. Ofcourse, formulas u know related to that problem will be very helpful for u. So, just try to note them onside or keep in mind. If u can't solve them, look for similar e.g. in book or example solved. I am not sure whether u're currently pursuing u'r study here in U.S or in Nepal or somewhere else. It would have been easier for me to give u some specific hints, as taking math course in Nepal and in U.S colleges are different.
Let me assume u're in U.S.. My experience tells me that do the problems done by u'r proffessor in class at home. Write it and do it. If u feel kinda "too much", u can listen the music and just browse over it, u need not write it. And, do the h.w. I think, looking solution guide as soon as u don't know it, is not a better idea for me. In stead take that problem to the Math tutor or u'r friend or u'r professor. U may use solution guide just to see if problems have been done in easier way or the way u can understand easily. Remember take the shortest, simplest and the appropriate way. Shortest here doesn't mean the way u may loose some credits. At exam time, do the example problems solved in that certain chapters to which exam is to be made. Solved e.g problems covers the variety of problems in the whole chapter and most important u'r short time that u will have in hand for u'r exam preparation. Again, it depends on the way u like to choose. There is no specific way, I guess. Follow the techinque u feel easy and have faith and stick to it. Again, in exam time, u should know that exam is a standard test and it is always a standard measurement of stuffs that student know, so this means professors are not going to give the toughest h.w or c.w problem that are taking long time in exam. So, again I will suggest u to finish the solved e.g problems and if have time that of c.w and h.w.
Again, the psychological suggestion for u while practicing, always start from the simple one as it will collect enough confidence to tackle the tough later on. Another thing is, in some courses u have to remember formula and in others u do not have to. While I was taking Physics 1 class, formulas were provided, but in Physics 2, formulas weren't as that of Nepal. One hint for maths related to Physics, I would suggest read the chapter first. In most problems in Physics, understanding the concept is very very imp. As u understand the concept either related to force or interference pattern or magnetic moment, u will understand the language of the problem of physics easily and this will provide necessary knowledge to solve the problem. I found that some students good at Calculus still find Physics of the same level, harder. The reason may be u may not be reading the chapter and understanding the concept.
Again, keep on trying u will get it, as everybody says, its true. [For my background, I finished my Cal 1 and 2 and Phy.1 & 2 and taking Cal 3, Differential Eqn. and Elementary Algebra this semester.] Good luck.
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| Logical Sense |
Posted
on 20-Oct-03 01:23 PM
Wow, so much about math? Tender Rose, are you overwhelmed by all the suggestions yet?
Everyone has given here very good advice and methodical approach too.
I would only add:
You need to keep thinking in your head 'I LOVE math', 'Math is easy'. 'I can do it'. 'Math is SEXY' - if you like that way.
In fact I find math very easy. Unlike many other subjects, I can logically derive the answer in math (at least much easiery than say English). If I know one thing in math then I can answer 100 other things. But, say in English, if I know how to pronounce 'Do', I need to separately know how to pronounce 'Go'. If I follow the norms for 'Do', then how do you pronounce 'Go'? Let us not go there.
For example, if I did not know how to multiply, then all I had to do was 'add' that many times I get the answer. Right?
Do you know that computer which seems to be so good in doing math really only knows adding or subtracting (deep down), in fact it does not even know how to add or subtract, it only knows how to shift bits left or right? Really it does not know how to shifts either, it only knows how to flip them (make it 0 or 1), in fact it does not even know what is 1 or 0, it only knows 'on' and 'off'. So, really a computer knows how to put on a switch and how to put it off. Can you imagine so much has been done with this simple flip of a switch? Seems funny hunh?
Yes, my dear, math is that easy. Just add one knowledge to another you know. Once you grasp this idea, every this is 'SEXY'. Differential calculus becomes peace of cake.
- iti
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| Bilbo Baggins |
Posted
on 20-Oct-03 01:44 PM
What do you think of this:
Start with: [a = b]
Then multiply each side by a: [a x a = a x b]
Subtract b squared from each side: [a x a - b x b = a x b - b x b]
Simplyfy left and rightas: (a+b)(a-b) = b(a-b)
Result: a + b = b ---> 2b = b
Divide each side by b -----> You get: 2=1
BB
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| Biswo |
Posted
on 20-Oct-03 02:01 PM
Bilbo,
You can't cancel out a-b from this statement, because a-b=0, and when 0/0 is invalid structure, and it doesn't equal 1, as you are implying.
>Simplyfy left and rightas: (a+b)(a-b) = b(a-b)
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| KaLaNkIsThAn |
Posted
on 20-Oct-03 02:08 PM
Hyaaa "ghar-ai pindalu bana-i pindalu, sajha ma aauda 12 haate pindalu"
Bho pugyo math!!
Math aa bhe dishwashing garnu parthyo?
Sauni ki chori lai katti maya diye ani unle malai katti maya diiin bhanne kura ko "math" garna nasakda mori le chodera gai... !
Bho nasunau math ka guff haru.. eh!! Chaati bhitra baagmati kurlincha :(
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| M.P. |
Posted
on 20-Oct-03 02:28 PM
This is how interesting math can get. Read the last few postings by Paschim and Kabi-ji. Of course, you are welcome to read some of the so-called poems by yours truly (or is it the other way round?).
http://www.sebsonline.org/forum/forum_archive_view.aspx?T=8300#9102
[I hope the two active players in that discussion do not mind their postings revisited]
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| Bilbo Baggins |
Posted
on 20-Oct-03 02:48 PM
Biswo,
Bravo ...of course!!
The moral of the story: If you do not study math ... the following will happen.
1) In the future you will make decisions.
2) Your results will appear real/truth to you and lot of other people.
3) The result will actually be false if it is based in faulty logic or premise (as a-b ... can not divide by zero).
Finally, when you present your point of views you have to be very careful not to make faulty assumptions/premises (that is divide by zero).
Caio,
BB
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| Putali7 |
Posted
on 20-Oct-03 02:56 PM
ooooooooooooooo i LOVE math. In fact it's one of my favorite subject. Especially Algebra/Arithmetic and Geometry. Calculus is okay although i did not have to take any calculus in high school nor in University:) . Anyways, I think Math is very interesting, and fun to learn. :)
Putali:P
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