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   Read the accusation from the Malaysian p 21-Oct-03 suva chintak
     Of course they do. It's called IQ. An av 21-Oct-03 thugged out
       Listening to Mahathir <img src="http: 21-Oct-03 noname
         Suva and Noname ji: Very interesting 21-Oct-03 SITARA


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suva chintak Posted on 21-Oct-03 12:53 PM

Read the accusation from the Malaysian prime minister Dr. Mahatir (BBC)
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Mahathir hits back in Jewish row
Tuesday, October 21, 2003 Posted: 4:05 AM EDT (0805 GMT)


BANGKOK, Thailand -- Comments about Jews ruling the world made by Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad were "taken out of context", the departing leader has told a Thai newspaper.

The outspoken 78-year-old leader defended his speech, delivered at an Islamic summit last week, saying he had condemned all violence and instructed Muslims to better their lives by embracing technology and negotiating for peace.

In the wide-ranging speech to the 57-nation Organization of Islamic Conference, Mahathir launched a verbal barrage against Jews and Israel saying, "Jews rule the world by proxy. They get others to fight and die for them."

Assertions of Jewish dominance dominated Mahathir's speech, which also called for a modernization of Islam and the embracing of technology and progress to lift the Muslim world out of -- as Mahathir described -- a self-induced state of "oppression."

Mahathir -- who has been no stranger to controversy during his 22 year rule -- said the overall tone of his speech had been conciliatory but blamed the press for quoting it out of context.

"In my speech I condemned all violence, even the suicide bombings, and I told all Muslims it's about time we stopped all these things and paused to think and do something that is much more productive," Mahathir told the Bangkok Post.

"That was the whole tone of my speech, but they picked up one sentence where I said the Jews control the world."

Even as he tried to clarify the intent behind his speech, the Malaysian leader stopped short of contrition.

"The reaction of the world shows that they [Jews] do control the world," he told the Post.

Mahathir dismissed the objections of Western countries who labeled the speech anti-Semitic, saying they backed the Jews and failed to protest against anti-Muslim rhetoric.

The Malaysian leader's comments last week drew intense international criticism, led by the U.S., Israel and the European Union.

U.S. President George W. Bush on Monday pulled Mahathir aside at the Asia-Pacific Economic Conference and rebuked him for his statement.

Bush told Mahathir that his comments about Jews "stand squarely against what I believe" and went on to characterize them as "wrong and divisive," White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan said. (Bush rebukes Mahathir)

Unrepentant
But Mahathir was unrepentant in the Post interview on Tuesday.

Mahathir said the European Union had done nothing when Italian Prime Minister Silvio Burlesconi made a statement calling Muslims terrorists.

"Did the European Union pass a resolution to say that this was against Muslims? Why is it that when people condemn Muslims the European Union does not try to say anything?'' he asked.

Mahathir also accused the media of being selective in the portions of the wide-ranging speech they reported.

"I even quoted from the Koran, which says that when the enemy offers to make peace you must accept. I told the Muslims you must accept even if the terms are bad. You have to negotiate. This is the teaching of Islam. All that was in my speech. But those things were blacked out,'' he was quoted as saying in the Post.

Mahathir has become notorious for controversial speeches during his 22 years as leader and has been a key proponent of a unified political stance among Muslim nations, often taking aim at Israel over its occupation of Palestinian territory and the U.S. for its Middle East policy.

Malaysia's foreign minister earlier apologized for what he described as misunderstandings over Mahathir's speech, saying no offence from the remarks was intended. (Full story)

thugged out Posted on 21-Oct-03 02:14 PM

Of course they do. It's called IQ. An average Jew has a whopping IQ of 115. An average American has an IQ of approx. 100. An average Indian has 82. An average Nepali has 79. Africans have it even lower than 79. BTW, when White Americans have IQ in the 70's they're what we'd call mentally retarded. An Average Nepali is retarded by White standards.


noname Posted on 21-Oct-03 04:50 PM

Listening to Mahathir


Listening to Mahathir
By PAUL KRUGMAN

Published: October 21, 2003

The Europeans killed 6 million Jews out of 12 million. But today the Jews rule this world by proxy: They get others to fight and die for them." So said Mahathir Mohamad, the prime minister of Malaysia, at an Islamic summit meeting last week. The White House promptly denounced his "hate-filled remarks."

Indeed, those remarks were inexcusable. But they were also calculated  for Mr. Mahathir is a cagey politician, who is neither ignorant nor foolish. And to understand why he made those remarks is to realize how badly things are going for U.S. foreign policy.

The fact is that Mr. Mahathir, though guilty of serious abuses of power, is in many ways about as forward-looking a Muslim leader as we're likely to find. And Malaysia is the kind of success story we wish we saw more of: an impressive record of economic growth, rising education levels and general modernization in a nation with a Muslim majority.

It's worth reading the rest of last week's speech, beyond the offensive 28 words. Most of it is criticism directed at other Muslims, clerics in particular. Mr. Mahathir castigates "interpreters of Islam who taught that acquisition of knowledge by Muslims meant only the study of Islamic theology." Thanks to these interpreters, "the study of science, medicine, etc. was discouraged. Intellectually the Muslims began to regress." A lot of the speech sounds as if it had been written by Bernard Lewis, author of "What Went Wrong," the best-selling book about the Islamic decline.

So what's with the anti-Semitism? Almost surely it's part of Mr. Mahathir's domestic balancing act, something I learned about the last time he talked like this, during the Asian financial crisis of 1997-98.

At that time, rather than accept the austerity programs recommended by the U.S. government and the I.M.F., he loudly blamed machinations by Western speculators, and imposed temporary controls on the outflow of capital  a step denounced by all but a handful of Western economists. As it turned out, his economic strategy was right: Malaysia suffered a shallower slump and achieved a quicker recovery than its neighbors.

What became clear watching Mr. Mahathir back then was that his strident rhetoric was actually part of a delicate balancing act aimed at domestic politics. Malaysia has a Muslim, ethnically Malay, majority, but its business drive comes mainly from an ethnic Chinese minority. To keep the economy growing, Mr. Mahathir must allow the Chinese minority to prosper, but to ward off ethnic tensions he must throw favors, real and rhetorical, to the Malays.

Part of that balancing act involves reserving good jobs for Malay workers and giving special business opportunities to Malay entrepreneurs. One reason Mr. Mahathir was so adamantly against I.M.F. austerity plans was that he feared that they would disrupt the carefully managed cronyism that holds his system together. When times are tough, Mr. Mahathir also throws the Muslim majority rhetorical red meat.

And that's what he was doing last week. Not long ago Washington was talking about Malaysia as an important partner in the war on terror. Now Mr. Mahathir thinks that to cover his domestic flank, he must insert hateful words into a speech mainly about Muslim reform. That tells you, more accurately than any poll, just how strong the rising tide of anti-Americanism and anti-Semitism among Muslims in Southeast Asia has become. Thanks to its war in Iraq and its unconditional support for Ariel Sharon, Washington has squandered post-9/11 sympathy and brought relations with the Muslim world to a new low.

And bear in mind that Mr. Mahathir's remarks were written before the world learned about the views of Lt. Gen. William "My God Is Bigger Than Yours" Boykin. By making it clear that he sees nothing wrong with giving an important post in the war on terror to someone who believes, and says openly, that Allah is a false idol  General Boykin denies that's what he meant, but his denial was implausible even by current standards  Donald Rumsfeld has gone a long way toward confirming the Muslim world's worst fears.

Somewhere in Pakistan Osama bin Laden must be enjoying this. The war on terror didn't have to be perceived as a war on Islam, but we seem to be doing our best to make it look that way.

SITARA Posted on 21-Oct-03 06:14 PM

Suva and Noname ji:

Very interesting read! Do you think Malaysia will fall within the periphery of the "axis of evil"?