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| lonelyinmidwest |
Posted
on 29-Oct-03 01:38 PM
Leadership does not simply mean leading people. Leadership is an act of going along with people helping them to choose a right way. Leadership does not demand conspicuity, nor does it demand eulogy. True leaders are undaunted by the media and they do not persuade them to concede with their thoughts.
I am accidentally related to Koiralas; one of the most elite family of Nepal. I am still baffled by the fact that the besides attaining a political position, what else they did to gain such an acclamation. They were my fathers side of a family; very closely related. When I recall my childhood days at Koirala residence, I only remember the fussy little Koirala kids and their even fussier parents who considered themselves a greater leader than BP himself. They wanted to lead people; they definitely did; the only difference was the followers were supposed to be leashed. I remember being myself in an absolute quandary comparing the subtleness of my mediocre family with the lavish grandeur of Koiralas. They talked rich and looked rich. There are several instances of Nona Koirala calling people names and still proclaiming herself as a born leader.
Sujata Koirala, yet another character; I had a misfortune working with her once, in her so called Sushma Koirala Memorial Trust. It is indeed ridiculous that a short tempered petite woman, who was as bad as exiled for more than a decade, suddenly becomes a true patriot after Mr. Girija Koirala, her dad took on the position of a prime-minister. Truly speaking; once when Mr. GP was still a prime minister, Sujata did not know that same person was a defense minister too. She smoked in public, slept with dozens, cried hysterically when someone parked behind her car and drank till inebriated. One day when she met Vinod Khanna, an Indian film actor, she was acrid about Manisha Koirala, astonishing Mr. Khanna. The feud in the family was not clandestine, it was blatant.
Manisha Koirala, the femme fatale, has a world of her own. I laughed at her recent appraisal about the kings move to thwart democracy. An alcoholic bimbo who was limited to dancing around the trees, reaping producers money and sleeping with the entire Indian population is certainly not qualified enough to make any remarks about the Nepalese politics. Not even if she is a granddaughter of BP. Do we still remember the interview given to Nepal television a decade earlier when the words that came out of her mouth were Hindi, English but definitely not Nepalese? An actor she is, she later performed to be a great patriot when her father Prakash Koirala (also an acute alcoholic) ran an election and almost lost.
Talking about Girija Koirala is beyond the scope of this article. I once visited him in his private room, along with my father, in Prime-Ministers residence at Baluwatar. To my surprise, Mr. Lakhsman Basnet, one of the hardcore party leaders and one of the umpteen son-in-laws of Koiralas was almost seated at Mr. GPs feet slicing apples for the prime-ministers breakfast. Was he talking about nations development? I guess not. I was appalled at the attention and respect GP demanded from all.
There are some more skeletons in the closet, Nanu Koirala (Manishas mom), Sekhar Koirala, Jyoti Koirala etc. etc. The list is endless. I cannot regard them as amiable and humble people.
I may sound like a disgruntled member of a koirala kin, but I have not demanded anything and therefore the jealousy and anger does not persist. The only thing I want to underscore is; being a celebrity does not mean fearing paparazzi or the masses, but also it does not mean disclosure of bloody feud, extreme affectedness and despicable pretentiousness. Koiralas first have to learn to mend their way than take upon a responsible position.
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| jobs1 |
Posted
on 30-Oct-03 10:35 PM
Hey lonelyinmidwest,
Pretty interesting write up. I am a little surprised nobody commented on this article. I always had that feeling about the Koirala Family. I knew a few other people who were pretty close to that family and when I commented on GP Koirala they would pound on me saying that I Knew nothing about him. They said that GP was a very humble man. Common how can someone be humble when they reap the benefits of their brother. GP has brought nothing but disaster to our country, and I think Sujata will be no exception. I am sure if someone were to write about the screw ups they have done, we could have a book. But I want to appreciate your courage and you humbleness to comment on the Koirala's even though you are family. Once again interesting write up.
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| bideshi |
Posted
on 31-Oct-03 08:35 AM
Even I dislike these koiralas.They haven't done anything great,infact nothing good at all but they act as if they r all and all,as if they have done good for our country and people.They don't deserve all they are getting right now! They destroyed our country,our democracy.They r desh drohi.
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| sweetP |
Posted
on 31-Oct-03 08:35 AM
Lonelyinmidwest,
You must have some enimosity with the Koiralas, or your so called "relatives". I can understand that if they did not do what you asked for, like a great job or a seat in Med School, then it is normal to feel that way. But morally, it is wrong to point out their personal lives here in the public. I do not belive when you say:
"An alcoholic bimbo who was limited to dancing around the trees, reaping producers money and sleeping with the entire Indian population is certainly not qualified enough to make any remarks about the Nepalese politics. "
You have no right do make any judgement about Manisha. Whether she sleeps with her producer or her director, it's none of your business. Why does she need to make any remarks about politics anyways.
You give out all these details, but would you also enlighten us with details about yourself? What were you doing at GP's residence and how are you related to him? I'm sure you were there for some "source force" but obviously it didn't work..... frustated mind had to express it somehwere.
I do not think GP is a good leader. You can criticise how ever you want about how he deals with politics but please refrain from writing about details of somebody's lives that has nothing to do with politics.
Seriously, what is your problem? What was it that you wanted from them and that made you so frustrated?
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| lonelyinmidwest |
Posted
on 31-Oct-03 10:10 AM
Dear SweetP,
The only reason I wanted to sound overcritical was the sham and affectedness of the koirala family. Instead of symbolizing themselves as an icon of true Nepalese nationals, they are ruining everything up. A layman imitates what he/she sees in the leaders. If the leaders are full if artifice and fabrication, how can they motivate other people?
For your kind information, I am an engineer and I never wanted to go to medical school. I have studied in India and there is no way my shcolarhip was influenced by the koiralas. Before I had to look for a job, I was in United states and am now enjoying the bliss of a lucrative employment, I never wanted them to help me in any of my struggle, if you could just believe. Read the last paragraph I have written. I am not disgruntled and the jealousy and anger does not persist. As for Manisha, her life is in public, she DOES NOT HAVE A PRIVATE LIFE. She tries to act like a carefree kid, but is not.The reason why I was in the residence of prime minister with my father was because the prime-minister himself wanted to see him. Don't ask me the reason.
I honestly believe that being a part of a celebrity family everyone should see how they carry themselves. A little bit of indescent exposure is tolerable but a substantial amount of it surely cannot be condoned
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| isolated freak |
Posted
on 31-Oct-03 10:15 AM
lonbelymidset, did you happen to take a class on Public Speaking offered by the USIS in kathmandu? Just curious!
If yes, email me.
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| Chordaku420 |
Posted
on 31-Oct-03 11:31 AM
Chure Bodo Aka Hawaldaar need to go back to Banaras. He is the one who ruined Nepal. I wouldn't mind slapping in his Old Chaure face.
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| Chordaku420 |
Posted
on 31-Oct-03 11:33 AM
Oye SweetP,
Why are you trying to Defend this DeshDrohi ?
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| sweetP |
Posted
on 31-Oct-03 12:10 PM
I agree that GP is a corrupt leader. Somebody doesn't just become a leader. People make them. Your agony is for GP. Why are you dragging the families names and complaining that they are not good leaders?
Another point is that you insulted 2 women by saying that one sleeps with the entire indian population and the other with dozens. That is just INSULTING and DISRESPECTFUL to not only the two women you mentioned but for all women. Why did you not say anything about the sex life of GP or any other male relatives of yours, why did u stick with just WOMEN?
Since you said that you are their relative. And I believe that the purpose of this thread is to let them know or let other people know that they are bad people, and that somehow they change to be better leaders. What I don't understand is if you care so much about them, why not talk to them personally and see what they think, since you are their nata parne manche.
As somebody said in some other thread earlier, "Let's talk about ideas, not persons", in sajha.com.
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| lonelyinmidwest |
Posted
on 31-Oct-03 12:13 PM
Dear all,
Thanks for the mixed reaction. SweetP I do not want to convince you for what I believe, we all have our own opinions. I am not lashing Koiralas like all others do. A person in public is always subjected to criticism, most of the critics are true and some of them are wrong too.
If I were in such a position I also would not have been able to handle a lot of things. But I would certainly not make attempts to "drink till I am down" in public, swear and impeach at Ganeshman and Kishunji (the way nona koirala does) even when they belong to their own party.
BP's forefathers gestated democracy and he gave birth to it, instead of nourishing..the entire clan is set to devastate it.
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| lonelyinmidwest |
Posted
on 31-Oct-03 12:31 PM
SweetP,
I understand what you say. I apologize if I sound like a male chauvinist....sorry for that. I honestly did not want to elucidate upon the sex lives of those two women...it was a metaphor..however is true. The males of the koirala families are equally despicable too...and worst of all...they do it in public. Neeru Koirala..nona's son was seeing an indian female when his wife was still alive. Go to Berkeley california and ask about his numerous affairs with multilingual female friends. I adore BP cos he, in "Jail Journal" has detested himself as a polygynist. I do not say that was a right act for a person like BP, but at least he had guts to repent over what he did.
I reiterate once again, I am not talking about the personal lives of Koiralas. Their acts are so much in open that it is their PUBLIC LIFE. I only want to emphasize upon what a common person learns from such acts.
And another issue is our Nepalese culture. I am not a great fan of it when it comes to male chauvinism, women under a glass ceiling, drowry systems and many others, but why try to imitate Kennedys and Hussains to prove you are not a part of it?
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| makuro |
Posted
on 31-Oct-03 12:32 PM
lonelyinmidwest,
Rumors abound when it comes to SEX, there is no clan like Koirala clan. Are those rumors or just to soil their reputation? Being a Koirala insider, I am sure you have knowledge of it. Make voyeuristic public like me know whether it is fact or fiction. Thanks!
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| lonelyinmidwest |
Posted
on 31-Oct-03 12:33 PM
Dear isolated,
I never took a class in public speaking....I am sorry..I have always kept a low profile.
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| lonelyinmidwest |
Posted
on 31-Oct-03 12:38 PM
Dear Makuro,
I can certainly vouchsafe numerous incidents related to extramarital/obscene affairs of BP, Tarini, Keshav, ( I have heard from my faimly) Neeru, sujata, nanu, matrika's daughter-in-law and Manisha koirala.
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