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| SimpleGal |
Posted
on 30-Oct-03 11:13 AM
Dear sajha friends,
I want to introduce one of the new comers on sajha --- Miss Tender Rose --- to you. She is my 11 year old sister who is currently in Geneva. Tender Rose is studying in the 7th grade and loves to write! This summer, during my stay with my parents in Geneva, I introduced her to sajha. She was excited to see the different kinds of writers on this sight. Her interest in participating here was further encouraged by the stupendous success of the sajha extravaganza party in NYC. The warm, camaraderie, and sense of comfort that sajha creates for its readers were tremendously appealing to her and she decided to come on board.
Being a little girl, some of the suggestive remarks on her thread "I met this cute girl" has upset her tremendously. I am writing to assure the posters on that thread that she is not a sugar daddy nor any of the other guesses. And this cute girl she talks about is a nice girl she wants to befriend at her school. She was merely expressing her feelings when the nasty remarks were made. At one point, I myself teased her in the thread pretending to assume she was a boy, but regret having done so as it has hurt her feelings. I am sorry sweetheart! :(
At the same time, I do apologize along with her for her rather rash remarks on the "Exceptionally beautiful girl" thread where she chose some unpopular words to describe the girls' photos. These sentiments that she expressed to me proved how powerful sajha can be for those of us who are passionate participants here. As an ardent fan of this place, I thought it my duty to rectify some misunderstandings, especially since it involves someone who is very dear and precious to me. :)
Welcome Tender Rose!
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| L-a-x |
Posted
on 30-Oct-03 11:19 AM
Welcome Tender Rose....
Hope to see you around....and keep posting....
FYI, please go through what M.P. and other firends have writen about things new comers need to know...
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| DWI |
Posted
on 30-Oct-03 11:30 AM
That the cutest thing I've heard in Sajha?
We have a small sister around (whose writings aren't less than the Sajha Hastis, mind you).
Tender Rose, if it makes you happy, all the boys who teased you will do uth-bas. I'll make sure about it.
And do keep posting.
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| KaLaNkIsThAn |
Posted
on 30-Oct-03 11:36 AM
LOL!! When DWI speaks, I believe in him!
He will surely make sure that the guys who teased TR do uth-bas. Ajha, how about "kneel down" or even "kukhura"? LOL.
Thanks Simpuuuuu for lettin' us know. I thought she was teenager.. eh! My bad.
Welcome TenderRose, the second youngest sajhaities after Guna bro ko chori!
Guys, Behave now!!
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| ruby |
Posted
on 30-Oct-03 11:59 AM
I know this is none of my business, and everyone makes thier own norms, but I beleive this site is not clean enough for an 11 year old to be cruising at all! There is so much vulgarity / rascism / gender bias/ and all sorts of things that I think , maybe 13/14 should be the start to expose kids to all this negativity. Of course there are alot of things we learn here, and its up to us to choose what to take and what not.
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| john doe |
Posted
on 30-Oct-03 12:07 PM
ruby has a point, but welcome anyway, tender rose.
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| tender rose |
Posted
on 30-Oct-03 12:14 PM
my sis is here to guide me. i think i can depend on her.
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| San |
Posted
on 30-Oct-03 12:18 PM
Hi Tender Rose, welcome to sajha. Please accept my small gift of flower next to your name for being the youngest writer on sajha. Your sister is lucky to have a sister like you :)
Best Wishes
San
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| BMW |
Posted
on 30-Oct-03 12:23 PM
ok what? i am lost
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| Deep |
Posted
on 30-Oct-03 12:28 PM
Tender rose,
mero tarfa bata pani swagat chha.
lage hat, ek raund Sanbro lai ne rikwest gari halnu paryo--
bro, milchha bhane mero pani nam sangai tasayera euta "eklo kadaikadale ngyakeko kyaktas" ko photo rakhdim na. sarhai lonely feel bhaira chha ke.
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| sankaa |
Posted
on 30-Oct-03 12:35 PM
I agree with Ruby ji.just be careful while opening the threads Tender_rose .and Welcome to Sajha...
btw, isn't it simpu ji who wrote about Mr. Tender? how lucky.. having so many tender ppl around in here life :)
Tender bahinee, do you have a website too? i think, i've seen your website a long time ago... or it might be another little bahinee from Switzerland...
Once again , welcome to the Sajha bahinee :)
love,
Sankaa
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| khimu |
Posted
on 30-Oct-03 01:47 PM
welcome to "SAJHA" Rosee baini.
"Lil" cute baini ko pic pani jawas na sajha bus ma
peace of mind
khimu
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| SimpleGal |
Posted
on 30-Oct-03 01:50 PM
Thank you everyone, for your warmth!
I agree with Ruby about the potentially hazardous areas that sajha has for a young writer. But then again, it's the case with internet in general. does that mean that young kids are NOT using the net? It's upto us to make sajha a cleaner and friendlier site. And this should be a step toward a realization that many other tender roses may be visiting this site, and we should all try to downplay on the slanders and negativity that infects sajha and instead make it a cleaner place for all generations!
In peace.
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| confused |
Posted
on 30-Oct-03 02:21 PM
tender..welcome to sajha...your postings are really something....keep on writing..
:)
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| DISCO |
Posted
on 30-Oct-03 02:30 PM
Welcome all the tender ones here but do not mistake outside world for sajha, keep yourself away from the big bad wolfs out there, not to scare you or anything but a little bita advice from dico dai.
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| SITARA |
Posted
on 30-Oct-03 02:38 PM
Hi Rose:
Welcome and enjoy yourself in Sajha but don't forget to enjoy the outdoors, books, making real friends as well as enjoying a young and active life.
Ruby has a point there; Sajha does have its share of trash. However, San and other Sajhaites have been very active in keeping Sajha clean.
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| Logical Sense |
Posted
on 30-Oct-03 07:05 PM
Tender Rose, welcome to Sajha.
But, SimpleGal, I agree with other posters who don't think it is good idea to introduce your 11 year old extremely intelligent sister to Sajha.
Everything has it's right timing. That is why tremendous research has been done to make laws for this purposes. I don't want to go in details, you know what I mean.
You have a noble point to think that Sajha posters will respect her presence, but, Sajha is not designed for this, and I really feel bad to think that you want to make Tender Rose a Guinea Pig for this purpose . You should not ask for mercy from Sajha posters at the expense of our innocent bahini Tender Rose.
Also, point to note that there are many materials which people posts here are not vulgar or bad sexually as per say for the adults, but, they will hestitate to post just because they remember there is 11 year old watching/reading this.
Just one simple example, would you like to show the picture of that journalists (Killed by Maoists) to Tender Rose? But, that picture seems to be very appropriate for rest of the Sajha audience.
What you are asking is to change the dimension of Sajha, which I completely disagree.
And, Sanji can not enforce the age restriction (putting a rose is noble idea though), but, how can you tell this story to the new users?
So, my humble request to Tender Rose bahini, please visit other sites which are entertaining and stimulating to your intelligence. If you want I can research on that. SimpleGal bahini, I am sorry to say but your judgement is definitely wrong on this. Faster you request Tender Rose to stop reading Sajha Postings more good you will be doing to her.
Sada Bhalo Chahane Ra Dherai Nai Maya Garne,
Logical Sense.
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| Soleil |
Posted
on 30-Oct-03 07:18 PM
I is thank them simple peopal for them introduction on them sista, and bringing her onboard sajha. Now, them Tender Rose is them little sista. I is happy to have them here. I is thanks simple peopal again :P
Tender Rose, bienvenue! ma petite soeur.
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| nepali_angel |
Posted
on 30-Oct-03 07:20 PM
Tender Rose, I must say you're pretty smart for your age. Heck, you probly act more mature than most individuals in here, myself included.
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| czar |
Posted
on 30-Oct-03 09:43 PM
Miss Tender Rose,
Welcome aboard this runway train that can, and often does, head in any direction at the drop of a word or picture. I observe your potentially considerable sensibilities. You even have an endorsement from our resident virago Nepali Angel himself. You've made an impressive a start as anyone is likely to make here.
Rather than treat you as a juvenile I've made the conscious decision to converse with you as the sharp young lady that you are. Might I suggest that you not be disheartened when you make mistakes. We all do, but the key is to learn from them and avoid falling into the same traps repeatedly. You are a quick study and have already displayed some ability in this regard. Might I suggest something though: if things turn nasty here, walk away from it. It will save you a lot of aggravation and hurt.
Bienvenue et Bon Chance !
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| eNigma_too |
Posted
on 30-Oct-03 10:39 PM
Right said, Logical sense..I completely agree with you.an 11 years old participating in sajha discussion board..c'mon guys !! This is not the right place for her..
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| ru |
Posted
on 31-Oct-03 01:11 AM
notwithstanding the issues raised about appropriate age limits for this site (or for other online sites in general), the argument that kids know how to go to internet (unlike me in those days) is equally valid. Hence it is better that kids take upon sajha.com as opposed to some other sites that have a balance of issues tilted against kids' in terms of appropriateness. This site I guess is a closer depiction of reality...we have analysts, a**holes, poets, parties, and what not..hopefully people like tender rose (and other tender people) will make their own selection of what they want to get out of it in a manner suited to their age.
Amen.
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| tender rose |
Posted
on 31-Oct-03 06:15 AM
I think kids can go wherever they want if things are appropriate and safe. I think people should not post nasty things to improve themselves, and beacause others can feel safe and comfy too. It is not against the law to write here. It is best to write pleasant stuff. Interesting stuff. People will like you if you are nice and positive not if you post up sick things. It is interesting to talk to other people, to know what they think abt different things. It is good to have all age groups. We are nepalese too. Everywhere you read "PLEASE DO NOT POST INAPPROPRIATE STUFF" then why is it us that post nasty gross things? Wouldn't the world be the best place if there weren't bad guys, if there wasn't any pollution, no tension, but that cannot happen, Yes. Nothing. absolutely nothing can be perfect. nothing can be neat and clean. Nothing can be so steady. Though we can try to make the world, if not then this site a clean safe place.
is it not? @>--`--- tender rose
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| tender rose |
Posted
on 31-Oct-03 06:21 AM
and my lovely sis is here to guide me. She is here to help me. With her there in my aid, I don't have to fear so much. Adults are here to help the children. They should teach them good things, not bad. After all it is the child's background, and surroundings that put an impression on him/her.It is his/her company that effects him/her.
Thanx. @>--`--- tender rose
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| Poonte |
Posted
on 31-Oct-03 06:41 AM
Neither can Sajha be directed one way or the other (to please this or that individual), nor can we prevent anyone, regardless of their age, to visit an easily-accessible site on the internet. Therefore, I suggest we forget worrying about something that cannot be done and just go with the flow. Afterall, Sajha is NOT a declared-porn site that we should prevent it from the NAJARS of young kids -- yes, we might come across one or two bumps every once in a while (with some vulgarity and some other forms of trash), but let us deal with them when the time comes. The more we let Sajha be (with regards to its contents and its visitors), the merrier it is, me thinks. :)
So, welcome aboard, my newest BOINI Tender Rose! Just make sure that you introduce us to some of your older sisters from your school too! :P ;)
MMMMMMMMMMMMMMUAH on your kalilo nidhar...eheheh...lu jaa ta...you didn't mind, Simpu, did you? :P
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| isolated freak |
Posted
on 31-Oct-03 06:49 AM
welcome aboard, tender rose.
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| SimpleGal |
Posted
on 31-Oct-03 07:19 AM
Logical Sense and all other concerned friends,
I agree, as I mentioned earlier, that sajha may not be ideal for young people. I thank Sitara dijju for her sound advice which is what I myself advocate for the young generation. But today, computers and internet are part and parcel of every growing child's life. There is a computer in almost every household and learning its multiple uses is part of the school curriculum from very early years of academic life.The kids today know far more in the IT field that we could learn in decades. As in every aspect of life, we as adults cannot protect our children from EVERYTHING. But what we CAN do is equip them--with trust, understanding, and good moral values from early on--so that they can face the world more independently. One of the potential root causes of countersocial behavior and other detrimental actions on the part of children and adolescents (the groups who are most strictly monitored by adults) is the lack of TRUST that they may feel from us. That is the fundamental aspect of human development which is what we must cultivate in children so that it *empowers* them to face, as one of the posters said earlier, the "big bad wolves" in life.
Your concerns are appreciated. Speaking of "big bad wolves" and other scary things, Happy Halloween everyone!!!! ;)
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| Rusty |
Posted
on 31-Oct-03 07:26 AM
TR,
Welcome..
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| najar |
Posted
on 31-Oct-03 08:04 AM
Tender Rose--
Welcome...be sure to screen the threads though, hai? and as others suggested don't spend too much time on sajha, like we do :)
Also, TR ss that Moven' Pick across lake genef still there or closed in the fall? If it is, have a double scoop of tropic forest icecream for me, will ya? merci beaucoup!:)
Simpu, kyaaa ho--vae varr ko siblings lai recruit garne yeta tira? take over garne bichar chha ki kya ho? San, be aware hai :P :P
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| SITARA |
Posted
on 31-Oct-03 09:17 AM
OK my two cents worth:
Although, I did welcome Tender Rose, something has been bothering me:
First, children are children and adults are adults; there is no ifs and buts about it. Hence the reason why we have toddler parties, children parties, pre-teen parties...... and parties for adults. Do parties for adults require pornographic materials of them to be adult?...NO! Just the fact that there is a psychological, mental, physical developmental gap between children and adult, it is prudent that children be not encouraged to visit sites where adults interact. Again, this I'm sure S. gal is well aware of as a psychology major. Yes, internet and computers has become a way of life for children (even the 3 year olds I teach) however, children should be encouraged to interact WITH children; there are many sites where children do interact, safely and and with other children.
My thought: if I had an 11 year old, would I expose her to a site like Sajha? my answer would be NO! Just for the reason that it is NOT age appropriate for an 11 year old! Now, would you?????!!!! One needs to use prudence and sound judgment in viewing the difference between a child and an adult!!!!! Look at the developmental needs and differences; that says it all.
About trust and empowerment: It will suffice that a child is trusted with a computer to go into the internet; it is empowerment. Here is the aspect of Guidance(from the adult): introduce the child to sites that are age appropriate; suitable for interaction with those who are at the same/similiar developmental stage. Allow freedom within that site WITH a boundary; that, empowers the child while protecting him/her.
***** OK I had to write that; my advice to parents of children who surf the nets.
Logical senseji, I absolutely agree with you.
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| SITARA |
Posted
on 31-Oct-03 09:19 AM
edit while reading... break-time- rushed writing!
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| Neural |
Posted
on 31-Oct-03 09:20 AM
If I were SG, i would not have recommended TR to be here.
I do give 100% to Logical Sense n Sitara .
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| SimpleGal |
Posted
on 31-Oct-03 09:50 AM
Sitara and LS ji,
Your arguments are well taken.
However, a broader view of development is necessary rather than a stringent notion of age/stage. Children develop in multiple ways--some exceed the prescribed norms, and others may "lag behind," according to the notion of stage. Development is not always linear, mind you! We shouldn't overlook the fact that there are individual differences in children and enforcing the stage pattern into their development is not always wise. And Sitara, being a school teacher, is well aware of this I'm sure.
In peace.
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| SimpleGal |
Posted
on 31-Oct-03 09:55 AM
Having said the above, I agree with the latter part of LSji's comment and accept the fact that I made an error in judgment! Thanks for your thoughts and I shall redirect my sister elsewhere! She has enjoyed being here, but I do acknowledge the fact that they may not be appropriate for her.
In peace.
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| DISCO |
Posted
on 31-Oct-03 11:53 AM
Oh, No!, No more of TR?, who are those big bad wolves now?, JK :), I think this is a very well documented case of democracy in action (How cheesy right?), but I wonder if this kind of "moral restriction" hence pimpslaps a case of "agism" into our face.....
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