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   ..Here below is an article i found in th 31-Oct-03 mickthesick
     If we're talking about the novelist-phil 31-Oct-03 nepali_angel
       Hi, FYI The Ayn Rand you guys are talk 31-Oct-03 nepal_ko_chhoro
         Yeah, that's what I meant..she's a Russi 31-Oct-03 nepali_angel
           "the natives were a conglomeration primi 31-Oct-03 Suna
             Well, I can't really say they are my own 31-Oct-03 nepali_angel
               Ayn Rand is one of my favorite writers. 31-Oct-03 Rosie
                 I recommend "The Fountain Head " if you 01-Nov-03 tabasco
                   ..here are my arguments: first of all 01-Nov-03 mickthesick


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mickthesick Posted on 31-Oct-03 01:53 PM

..Here below is an article i found in the website of the aynrand institute.......to those who don't know who Mr. Ayn Rand is.....he was a scholar who argued against the melting-pot concept in america that is so prevalent today.....he was anti-multiculturalist and opposed any kind of foreign immigration into the united states, whether it be immigrant workers or immigrant students( like us)....he believed that immigrants should not be allowed to enter for any kind of reason in this land which now belongs to the "white" .

so the "white" people who believed and followed him have an institute named after him and this very institute spreads it's message thorugh various articles on paper and websites.......i got the following one from it's website.

few criticism is requested.....from my side.

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Oct. 7, 2003

On Columbus Day, Celebrate Western Civilization, Not Multiculturalism



By Michael Berliner

Columbus Day this year has a special meaning. Christopher Columbus is a carrier of Western civilization and the very values attacked by terrorists two years ago on September 11. To the "politically correct," Columbus Day is an occasion to be mourned. They have mourned, they have attacked, and they have intimidated schools across the country into replacing Columbus Day celebrations with "ethnic diversity" days.
The politically correct view is that Columbus did not discover America, because people had lived here for thousands of years. Worse yet, it's claimed, the main legacy of Columbus is death and destruction. Columbus is routinely vilified as a symbol of slavery and genocide, and the celebration of his arrival likened to a celebration of Hitler and the Holocaust. The attacks on Columbus are ominous, because the actual target is Western civilization.
Did Columbus "discover" America? Yesin every important respect. This does not mean that no human eye had been cast on America before Columbus arrived. It does mean that Columbus brought America to the attention of the civilized world, i.e., to the growing, scientific civilizations of Western Europe. The result, ultimately, was the United States of America. It was Columbus's discovery for Western Europe that led to the influx of ideas and people on which this nation was foundedand on which it still rests. The opening of America brought the ideas and achievements of Aristotle, Galileo, Newton, and the thousands of thinkers, writers, and inventors who followed.
Prior to 1492, what is now the United States was sparsely inhabited, unused, and undeveloped. The inhabitants were primarily hunter-gatherers, wandering across the land, living from hand-to-mouth and from day-to-day. There was virtually no change, no growth for thousands of years. With rare exception, life was nasty, brutish, and short: there was no wheel, no written language, no division of labor, little agriculture and scant permanent settlement; but there were endless, bloody wars. Whatever the problems it brought, the vilified Western culture also brought enormous, undreamed-of benefits, without which most of today's Indians would be infinitely poorer or not even alive.
Columbus should be honored, for in so doing, we honor Western civilization. But the critics do not want to bestow such honor, because their real goal is to denigrate the values of Western civilization and to glorify the primitivism, mysticism, and collectivism embodied in the tribal cultures of American Indians. They decry the glorification of the West as "cultural imperialism" and "Eurocentrism." We should, they claim, replace our reverence for Western civilization with multi-culturalism, which regards all cultures (including vicious tyrannies) as morally equal. In fact, they aren't. Some cultures are better than others: a free society is better than slavery; reason is better than brute force as a way to deal with other men; productivity is better than stagnation. In fact, Western civilization stands for man at his best. It stands for the values that make human life possible: reason, science, self-reliance, individualism, ambition, productive achievement. The values of Western civilization are values for all men; they cut across gender, ethnicity, and geography. We should honor Western civilization not for the ethnocentric reason that some of us happen to have European ancestors but because it is the objectively superior culture.
Underlying the political collectivism of the anti-Columbus crowd is a racist view of human nature. They claim that one's identity is primarily ethnic: if one thinks his ancestors were good, he will supposedly feel good about himself; if he thinks his ancestors were bad, he will supposedly feel self-loathing. But it doesn't work; the achievements or failures of one's ancestors are monumentally irrelevant to one's actual worth as a person. Only the lack of a sense of self leads one to look to others to provide what passes for a sense of identity. Neither the deeds nor misdeeds of others are his own; he can take neither credit nor blame for what someone else chose to do. There are no racial achievements or racial failures, only individual achievements and individual failures. One cannot inherit moral worth or moral vice. "Self-esteem through others" is a self-contradiction.
Thus the sham of "preserving one's heritage" as a rational life goal. Thus the cruel hoax of "multicultural education" as an antidote to racism: it will continue to create more racism. Individualism is the only alternative to the racism of political correctness. We must recognize that everyone is a sovereign entity, with the power of choice and independent judgment. That is the ultimate value of Western civilization, and it should be proudly proclaimed.
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Dr. Berliner is a member of the Board of Directors of the Ayn Rand Institute in Irvine, Calif. The Institute promotes the philosophy of Ayn Rand, author of "Atlas Shrugged" and "The Fountainhead."


nepali_angel Posted on 31-Oct-03 03:09 PM

If we're talking about the novelist-philosopher Ayn Rand, then it's a he, not a she.

While I do actually agree that America was founded on Western principles and values, I do not believe that Colombus was all that great. Certainly, the natives were a conglomeration of primitive peoples with primitive culture, but it was because of the Spaniards(and the Portuguese_ that the natives are on the verge of extinction. The Spaniards would be the first group of people who depended on biological warfare to win over a continent. The Portuguese by the way were also the **biggest** propogator of the slave trade. They smuggled hundreds of thousands of slaves and generated a hefty profit out of it. Columbus Day **should** not be celebrated as the man himself was indirectly responsible for native american genocide, and we all know he treated them like savages.

As I said before, it is *wrong* to dwell on the past, whichever view we support. This conniving villain should be forgotten. That's how I see it.
nepal_ko_chhoro Posted on 31-Oct-03 03:15 PM

Hi,
FYI
The Ayn Rand you guys are talking about is SHE not HE
Here are some links if you guys wnat to learn about her philosophy : objectivism

http://www.aynrand.org/
http://www.objectivistcenter.org/objectivism/intro-readings.asp
nepali_angel Posted on 31-Oct-03 03:26 PM

Yeah, that's what I meant..she's a Russian immigrant. Somehow I typed exactly opposite.
Suna Posted on 31-Oct-03 03:32 PM

"the natives were a conglomeration primitive peoples with primitive culture"

??
Are these your own words? just curious..
nepali_angel Posted on 31-Oct-03 03:40 PM

Well, I can't really say they are my own words. Visit any conservative site and you're gonna get the same answer. Actually, the Aztecs and Mayans were civilized, so I might have been wrong to generalize all Indians. The Natives of America didn't have a civilization.

I guess people here don't understand where I stand, the reason why people are all bawling at me. I am in fact
1) For gay/transgender/lesbian rights
2) For freer immigration, but **not** for illegal immigration. I am very against illegal immigration.
3) For multiculturalism
4) For tighter gun control
5) pro choice
6) For religious pluralism

and the list goes on and on and on. I am in fact very liberal. Most Americans *are* against illegal immigration.
Rosie Posted on 31-Oct-03 04:43 PM

Ayn Rand is one of my favorite writers. Foutainhead was a great novel. It inspired me so much. I cannot believe that such a great mind would harbor such narrow views. I kinda perused through the article and also visited the Ayn Rand website. Nowhere in the website is Ayn Rand herself quoted as saying that the White Race is superior to anyone else. There were some other articles that described how Western culture is superior to other cultures. This is obviously debatable. But I liked what they said about how every human being defines themselves by their actions and choices, rather than by their race or the actions and choices of their ancestors.
tabasco Posted on 01-Nov-03 12:01 AM

I recommend "The Fountain Head " if you guys like reading philosophical stuffs. I have read it twice and equally enjoyed it. Some of my hard core philosophical friends have read " Atlas Shrugged" and praise a lot about it. Mind you the later one is 1000 + pages. I don't have the patience and dare too......

If you guys wanna quick escape, there is a movie based on the book fountainhead.
The Fountianhead
Directed by : King Vidor (1949)
Screenplay: Ayn Rand

If someone is studying architecture, " The Fountainhead" is a MUST.
:)
mickthesick Posted on 01-Nov-03 11:01 AM

..here are my arguments:

first of all we should not give Columbus the credit for discovering america because he was actually heading towads finding india . Because he followed a wrong route he landed in this land called the america. But he was so convinced of himself that he decided to call the people living in this land as the "indians". Till his death he argued that he had infact found india and these were indians. Which now as we know is totally wrong assumption in his part.

H ecommited many treacheries to the people of this land. First, he called these people "indians" which they were not. Second, he was among the first few people who was directly responsible for killing thousands of native americans.

i personally think that Amerigo Vespucci should be respected as the true discoverer of america (he discovered both the americas, north and south)....

talking about ayn rand.

he or she might have been a prolific writer and a good philosopher but we cannot deny the fact that besides her two or three great books, she also had a negative attituyde towards the immigrants and the melting pot theory. She/he should have realised that he/she was also an immigrant to this great country and that this caountry made her what she is remembered for now. So it was totally wrong on her part to have an anti-multiculturalism feelings.