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| isolated freak | Posted
on 02-Nov-03 03:52 AM
Dear all, Here's from our own Bhunteji, the 11 points on me. No, I didn't ask San to remove it. It was funny as hell, and I am reposting here for all youir reading/laughing pleasure. 1. You seem to be like the spokesman of Devyani or mere a bhukne kukkur? Yes, you got this right. 2. I don't have any think to offer a drunkard like you and who accuse me high/drunk instead. Was your eyes busted when you see me drinking plain water and I paid Rs.600 rupiya of bills for your Carlsburg? You easily forget how happy were you when I paid your bill? You seem to be the guy "jun thal ma khayera tehi thal ma thukne" No, yoiu didn't have to pay at Mike's. I have my accounts there. You said, you'll take care of the bill when I actually was about to tell Bob (the waiter there) to put that on my tab. 3. INDESCENT? Wow! you already demonstrated your indecency when you grabbed the half bottle of Carlburg in that retura of a stranger who was drinking in the next table. Ajhai mula rakkhes ko jatro Ghekro fulayara kura garchhua? ha ha ha ... He wasn't a stranger. He is my father's friend and he invited us over. 4. How descent royalist you think? Didn't you told me that you were happy with the demise of the King Birendra and all his family? You were criticizing his leadership. You are disgusting Kasahi. Arka ko jutho khane bhate? Don't you realize that I was seeing all that in the first meeting with you? What is this? I said, everything that happens happens due to some historic necessity. Jung Bahadur didn't emerge out of nowhere and the Rana Sashan didn't get thrown because of nothing. 5. You were also telling me that maoists are the very nationalist force and you were praising them rather other political forces of nepal. Are you so much excited with chinese cultural seat? ha ha ha....If you have khubility, try to get like the scholarships I had from a number of Int'l organizations from Int'l competiton. Not with your chakadi chaplusi mentality. Ok? Wait. How i got what I got is none of your concern. I am here ebcause of my own ability. Good yoiu got scholarships, i am happy for you. 6. Due to all your disgusting mentallity I regret to meet you on August 30, 2003 at 5 pm in that restura. I just wanted to be away from you, Ok, Clear? Clear. I don't ahve any intention to meet someone like you either. 7. Yes, I may have business with Devyani and his father. Do I have to tell what business I do? Yes, I have her telephone no, current address, etc. Do I have to share with you chamcha? Yoiu are so cheap person that anyone can buy at the price of one bottle of beer. Watch your tongue dude. I have made it obvious that I love using alcohol, but I don't abuse it. I have enough money to supply me with whatever amount I need. 8. I had no intention meeting you when I was in Kathmandu, I trusted Ashu and he gave my contact information. But don't expect to meet me again. Again, I ahve no intention to meet you. 9. From my reliable source from the foreign ministry, I also heard that you were fired from the Foreign ministry when you were working as a contract worker there. No, I wans't fired. I resigned before dashain but I was called back to work immediately after dashain breaks were over. 10. I think what Longwood Ave. had created a thread about you now turned out to be true this time. That seems to be true about you too. I have met other sajhaites in person too, for example, Arnico, Ashu and many others including San himself. Everyone knows my political affiliation and unlike you, we get along pretty well with each other because we respect each others' sentiments. 11. Be sure to brush your teeth and take some lwang-sukmel if you ever find a gal and marry her. Hope she won't run away from you on the day of suhag raat. You are so disgusting, Ok! Thanks for your suggestion, but i am happy being who I am and what I am and my dental hygiene is quite better. 12. Enough have been told about you by your seniors in Bhanu Bhakta skool. Ok, Do I care? 13. Try to make good CV. I am getting oppurtunities even with my Bad CV and next week, I am co-oridanting one of the events here which includes welcoming the President of Yale and other distinguished faculty members of the university. You'll be reading about those soon here. Now, Bhunte, you go on with everything that you have tos ay about me. Also, I don't regret meeting you in person because that was an eye opener. Now I can understand why you say the things that you say. Namaste. |
| isolated freak | Posted
on 02-Nov-03 04:01 AM
now, you can go on with with everything you have to say about me. i will respond to your blabbelings when I have time and when I have to. |
| isolated freak | Posted
on 02-Nov-03 04:04 AM
and just a point: I will be more than happy to send you a cheque for 10 dollars, if you send me your address. about the maoists being the nationalist force: yes, i said that. and that was nothing new. i have said that in some threads in Sajha where I prediced Yuddha Biram between the two nationalist forces. This doesn't however make me approve/accept their ways and some of their demands. |
| isolated freak | Posted
on 02-Nov-03 04:09 AM
and just to clarify: This 11 points were written for mysincere and honest defense of Devyani. On the thread, Where is She now, I posted: Post 1. Bhunte, Not trying to be critical or judgemental or anything, but some of your comments here seem to be not coming out from a PhD student. Seriously, as a well wisher, I strongly sugegst that you go back to some of your comemnts and see for yourself whether they are quite thought through or not. Having met you in person, I just thought it was my moral responsibility to tell you that at times, you have to think 30000000 times before deciding on which/what word(s) to use. Sometimes, its good to be on the defensive, but that does not mean using words that are "inappropriate" to describe someone REAL. I hope I made my point clear. expecting to read even better posts/comments from you. namaste. Post 2. "I have heard of that, but I was particularly interested to know of her 'khubility'. She might be a great singer, dancer, chatter, friendly, commanding, story teller, athelet, meloduous voice, sexy, or just because she has a nice bindiya (same with dipen as well), etc. Otherwise, why anyone want to be her fan? Is it because her father is RPP president, rana clan, or rich nepali? If it is due to "khandaniya duniya" then when will we get rid of residual slavery mentality? " This is a really cheap comment on your part, Bhunte. Were you high/drunk when you wrote those lines? San bro, I think its against the spirit of Sajha to post someone's pic and then let everyone humiliate her. Its just not the Sajha that I would like to see, and I feel proud to be associated with. As a member and well-wisher of Sajha.com for the last 3 years (next month will be my third year in Sajha), I request you to send this thread to the deleted threads archives because this is getting nasty, dirty and personal. Like ashu says, let's celebrate the achievemnets of the fellow nepalese, let's use this place to discuss ideas and NOT PERSONS. Am I being too demanding here? Post 3: Also, Here's my argument on why this thread neds to be either closed or deleted: 1. Devyani Rana is not a public figure, she never was to begin with. Just because she dated the Prince of Nepal does not make her a public figure. Honestly speaking, how many of us knew that she was dating the late prince? Did she go out on the media and said that she was dating the Prince? 2. After the whole unhappy incident, she chose to remain out of Nepal and out of the public and the media. This automatically makes her a non-public figure. She is an as ordinary Nepali as Bhunte or his wife. Would our Bhunte ji appreciate somebody posting his wife's pic, who, hupothetically peaking, was once the beauty queen of PK campus and was talk of the whole Bagh-Bazar-Putali Sadak area? 3. She doesn't hold any position with the government. She doesn't write or give out interviews to the media. She has decided to live in seclusion. Furthermore, she never held any position in the past, she never gave out any interviews in the past, she is not an actress, she is not a writer or singer or artist or anything. She is just a normal girl, just like anybody's daughter, wife, sister or girlfriend. So, it is highly unethical to discuss about her in a public forum using all sorts of deregatory terms. It is simply not what one expects of all these western educated Sajha people. Be RESPECTIVE. She has chose to live in secluison, let her live like that. Its none of our business to find out what she is doing now or where she is living now. |
| isolated freak | Posted
on 02-Nov-03 04:15 AM
Then Bhuinte started this on the Jharna Bajrachyara Thread: "I wish Isolated Freak is here to Bijaya Kumar stopping him interrogating Jharana or close this thread as the other thread...la bravo show your purusartha... " Then my response was: Posted on 11-01-03 7:50 AM Reply | Notify Admin bhunte, You seem to have started this campaign against me, and that's fine with me. However, to make things clear for other Sajha visitors, let me defend my position and provide you with answers to the questions you've raised. 1. Contrary to what you and yourself believe, DEVYANI is not a public figure. So, its none of your's or mine to know where she is now. 2. You might have thought that it was harmless to post her pic and know her whereabouts, but the thread soon became way too nasty, dirty and personal. There were others who tarnished the thread but your comments/answers to some of the posters in that thread can be best described "INDECENT". You weren't being nice to the posters who didn't agree with you or towards Devyani. 3. Look Bhunte ji, I won't discuss with you on your raiti-mentality question. You are stretching it a bit far. I would have defended any hari-rame-shyame or geeta-seeta-reeta the same way I defended Devyani. also, Posted on 11-01-03 7:59 AM Reply | Notify Admin egarding that gentleman, I was very soft in his best interest this time. also bhunte, If the above comment is directed against me: YOu don't have to be soft in my best interests, you can go all hard on me. namaste Then he came with the above 11 points+ this note: Dear friends, I was pretty much aware of your genune concerns, but had no choice except revealing Isolated Freak's true face when he niu khojing with me personally. I restrained much for his face saving, but couldn't resist. Yes, truth is always bitter. The post is somehow not here. Probably the guy cried to remove it. Those people who are still interested to see those 11 points about the Isolated Ferak can email me. Now, tell me in which way did I niu khojing with him? Does he want us to believe inw aht he says/writes blindly? |
| isolated freak | Posted
on 02-Nov-03 04:27 AM
and here's the email he sent me. Message: Mr. Isolated Freak, I had the following 13 points about you in the Jharana thread. Since you got so personal, I had to no choice but to write about you what I observed you in three hours. I have no thing to hide to anyone. Hope you will grow up over time. If you still want to fight with me, be my guest in Sajhaland. I still wish you best. Bhunte |
| Bhunte | Posted
on 02-Nov-03 04:47 AM
I am very happy to hear that your eyes are opened now. |
| Bhunte | Posted
on 02-Nov-03 04:56 AM
Don't worry. You will get enough sympathies here including myself. So why hue n cry feri? |
| isolated freak | Posted
on 02-Nov-03 05:00 AM
Bhunte, :-) I wish you well. |
| KaleKrishna | Posted
on 02-Nov-03 06:14 AM
Is it a real rivalry, clash of titans, striking egos, male domination and teritorial instincts or a staged drama as they call fake encounters. May be it is an attempt to see (a p-lot hatched on the bar) to see who comes and add fuel to the fire or try to cool things down if something like this ever happen between two greats of the forum. Just curious, it is sad when all the dirty linen washing in public makes relationship sour. Wishing for speddy patch up between you two. Just a wellwisher KK |
| VincentBodega | Posted
on 02-Nov-03 06:37 AM
Jesus Christ !!! Bhunte and Isolated_freak both needs a good spanking on their booties. We dont want to hear about your personal adversaries. Isolated_Freak dont be a cry baby here. Seems like you are looking for sympathy here. If you are then you sure aint getting anything from you. Do what you got to do. If you still want to bitch and moan then go to your mama. She will have time and patience for you. Bhunte, I think you are a little cooler as long as you dont answer the answers of the 11 points on this thread. -- BV |
| KaLaNkIsThAn | Posted
on 02-Nov-03 07:15 AM
Bhunte The last thing I wanted to do was reply on this thread, and specially to reply you. Dude, please don't talk about decency here. Like you said before, "laharo tanda paharo garjincha". Just to give you "COUPLE OF HINTS" about decency from your side, have we really forgotten about your reply to "RUCK" in one of the threads recently? How decent was it? On the top of that, she was pregnant!! I am sure we went to different school, probably we learned differently about decency. Have we really forgotten "Poontey" episode? No not "Poonte" but "Poontey". Who would go to sajha chat room as "POONTEY" and pretend to be "Poonte" and talk nasty to the people so that he could give "Poonte" a bad name? No, nobody went to the sajha chat room as "bhuntey" or any other variation of that name. If that is your defination of "decency", then everyone in the chat room is indecent. So, please don't talk about decency, those were just couple of hints. Decency, Do hell with that!! (I know you will come up with your defense, I know you might even come up with something about Poonte, since I have started it. I know everything you did was decent for you. I know you don't want to hear anything against yourself. I know by the end of the day, I feel like "playing drum in front of bhaishi". But you know, the few things you should have known were the only few things you chose not to know). Other than that, you have a good weekend! |
| Bhunte | Posted
on 02-Nov-03 08:31 AM
Dear Kalanki I will reply only on the derailed issue, ok? Though it is already 6 am and haven't slept yet...ehehe Do you really know if the person in quesion was a real pregnant or virtual one? Do you really know how much the lady in question has hurted me though in virtual world? Let her reply in the thread. If you have any particular concerns you may email me or can chat in msn. I will be happy to discuss you about the related issue, and will tell you why i m unhappy with the person in question. Thank you for bringing up that POONTEY episode. I really didn't know earlier about the story behind that banner I saw one day in sajha chat room. When i visited sajha chat room one day, i saw a banner "Poontey=Bhunte. Real one is Poonte! ! !" I was surprised to see that banner. Then I had searched about the existence of Poontey in Kurakani search string. But I didn't found one. Then I met ne0 same day or next day and asked why the banner is there in p2p. He didnt' say anything. Later I saw different banner X=Y. That's all I know about that Poontey episode. I didn't know the so called Poontey had attacked Poonte until you mentioned that just now. If I have to defend with anyone remember it will always be as Bhunte. Not Bhuntey or Bhuntee or Bhunti, or anyother aliases. One time I met poonte in different nick, and he identified himself as Poonte. I asked him to come and talk with me in the real nick. But the person logged off and didn't reappear. I am not sure if that was the real poonte or someone else. The chat room is so fragile that people with ill intention may use different nick (unless it is password protected), and defame or use derogatory words taking the advantage of some differences among Sajhites in kurakani. It is obvious people like you can be easily confused. Let's not make the issue as a cup of tea. That kind of incidence may reoccur. Thanks for giving me the opportunity to clear up the Poontey issue. If you still believe that Poontey was indeed the Bhunte, then I have no thing to say. ha ha ha ....playing drum in front of bhaisi! Well sometime i feel like it is easier to train a monkey how to make him dance beating "damaru". With IF, I am always a well wisher for him though I might sound some bitter. So, I rest the issue with him. |
| isolated freak | Posted
on 02-Nov-03 08:39 AM
Bhunte, No, don't be my well wisher. Actually, I don't want someone like yoy to be my well wisher. now that you have proven to me what you are, I think I'd rather stay away from you, and expect the same from you. Chapter Closed! |
| Bhunte | Posted
on 02-Nov-03 08:46 AM
IF, chapter may be closed on the current issue, but we will continue to see each other in other issues wherever relevant for a discussion. |
| funnyface | Posted
on 02-Nov-03 08:48 AM
fireworks huh?love em ... this sint the end is it?:P |
| isolated freak | Posted
on 02-Nov-03 08:52 AM
Bhunte, NO, we won't. You are going to transih any thread that you grace with yoiur malicious presence and resort to chap personal attacks if someone points at your mistakes, so, hell no, neither will i be answering to your queries on other threads, nor ask you any question. send me your address so that i can reimburse you yoiur 10 dollars. When I said, chapetr closed, its closed. For the first time in Sajha, I have had this experience. Its an eye opener, nonetheless. But, be assured, I won't be dettered even an inch by cheap attack like your's and keep on posting on Sajha and I WIll keep on contributing to the community's overall good--and that without getting personal and or resorting to cheap atatcks. Now, when Is ay, chapter closed, its closed.I will have nothing to do with you, nor be an entertainer to tamashes. |
| Bhunte | Posted
on 02-Nov-03 09:19 AM
IF, didn't you see me begging for pardon when i said if i went wrong in devyani thread? If you felt I was wrong, why you just couldn't pardon me and flexed muscle? Why can't you just understand that? Don't u see Devyani happy and smily in that pic? Indeed that pic is put one among the royals of Nepal. Everyone should feel pride of that pic if someone hadnt a chance to see it. Did i select any of her bad posed pic? anyway, let's not dig it out further. Don't worry I have many 10 dollars. Just let me know. I don't go against people when they dont go along with me. Sorry, WRONG. I instead defend people as well when I perceive he/she abused. You can verify with other well wishers or you may close your eyes if you have seen one earlier. Well, the cheap and heavy comment is up to readers to evaluate. Sometime it can be cheap and sometime heavy. But always remember, I am not writing here as any Dr.XYZ. Instead, I am writing as ordinary illeterate suppressed nepali bhunte. So in some instances you may perceive something cheap. Each of us has different real life from virtual one. If you continue to bug, I have other better phrases. When the chapter is closed, just close now. No need to discuss further. |
| Jayaa Shamvho !!!! | Posted
on 02-Nov-03 09:29 AM
Ke ko jhagada ho ???????? Bhunte and Isoleted Freak ??  |
| KaLaNkIsThAn | Posted
on 02-Nov-03 12:41 PM
Bhunte, You are so predictable. You probably missed to grasp the main point in the footnote of my previous reply (included inside the parenthesis). Had I known, I'd have indicated where you really needed to concentrate on my posting. You probably want to go back, read it and grasp it before you come up with some predictable reply. Wow! It's great to know that besides derailing an issue (in almost every thread), you also reply to the derailed issues. But has an issue been derailed, is a question. I don't think it has been derailed. You raised an issue of decency, I questioned you if you are that decent yourself to raise your eyebrow on someone else decency. I was just reminded of your quote somewhere in sajha "aafno ang ko bhaisi nadekhne le aru ko ang ko jumra dekhcha". I know you don't really care about what you say or said earlied. It seems like the only thing that really matters to you is to identify where the issue has been derailed and bring forth your stupid comments which don't hold water. Your virtual and real explanation was more confusing than "Matrix" movie. Explain it again, will ya? Did you mean if you were unhappy with someone, or if someone hurt you, you use sajha forum to thrash him? Doesn't that make it personal? Isn't it a violation of "DO NOT use the forum for personal message that should have been sent through emails."?? You said, "Do you really know if the person in quesion was a real pregnant or virtual one?" For your record, you started a thread where you told the whole world about her pregnancy. Going through your statement you have just proved you lied to us about her pregnancy. Should we consider you as a liar as well? Or should we dismiss it as another "khyal thatta" of yours? I told you in my previous thread that you don't know that you are talking about or what you have talked about. Oops! I have just proved my point, haven't I? Thanks for that. That makes all of your replies pathetic, since you don't know what you are talking about. You forget to KEEP TRACK OF WORDS YOU SPILLED. Since you have just proved yourself as a liar, how can we believe that the words you said about "POONTEY" (not poonte) episode are credible? I am one of the moderators in Sajha chat room, and I was constantly watching you there. I learned about your moves, I learned about the IP addresses you used. I asked Poontey to change his name many times, and once he changed his name to "BHUNTE". Now "bhunte" is a registered name, there is no way Poontey could change his name to BHUNTE and remain there for more than 60 seconds if the chatter was not BHUNTE himself. Please don't underestimate others, some people know what they are doing. You said, "If I have to defend with anyone remember it will always be as Bhunte." So, Bhunte in Sajha chat room is same as Bhunte in kurakani. Oops! you slipped; you didn't realize someone was keeping track of every move you make. You said, "It is obvious people like you can be easily confused.". Yes, I'd be confused if I were you. Since I am not you, I don't really confuse on a result of the action I take. (For your record, I don't go around attaching irrelevant pictures in someone else's thread without realizing the result of my action. Remember recent Nepe's thread? He wasn't of course praising your action.) Now you can reply 400 threads on your defense, I just give a damn about it. I am wasting too much of my precious time arguing with someone who is dim-witted, insecure, arrogant and disrespectful -- someone who has no idea of things he is talking about. This is about time the thing came to halt. This is about time I ignored morons. I can not go stupid chasing a stupid, can I? Kalanki |
| dautari | Posted
on 02-Nov-03 12:42 PM
Bhunte and IF .. isn't it time now to bury the hatchets? And Bhunte dai, I did not think you'd be so aggressive on personal level. Just a thought. Although I do not see eye to eye with IF's point of view, I respect his rights to voice his opinion. ( I am referring to his first post directed at Bhunte in Devyani thread.) So, let's forget all this. |
| Himali_yatri | Posted
on 02-Nov-03 01:45 PM
hello kalankistan and other moderators Though its none of my business to interfere the discussion going between you and Bhunte, but I would like to make small but very serious comment. It is really questioning the confidintial trust about whole SAJHA forum. As a moderater of Chat room, keeping tract of someone IP address could be your business but coming into public forum and revailing what someone did in chat room in opinion is really unneccessary thing. Instead if you really want to tell Mr.Bhunte about what he disguised as and what he is not supposed to do, I guess you should have sent him personnal massege not on this public forum. By any means I am not trying to defend Mr. Bhunte or what he did, but I am just trying question whether we can trust SAJHA or not. I will also be waiting for feedback from other moderater of this forum. |
| KaLaNkIsThAn | Posted
on 02-Nov-03 02:02 PM
Himali Yatri, You are right but have you ever been to Sajha chat room? You don't really have to be a moderator there to keep track of any chatters. All the IP addresses are visible. It is almost impossible to stay in the sajha chatroom in disguise. I'd have sent him a personal message (which I did on my part by not yelling at the mainroom to change his name, but in personal message) if I was the only one who knew about it. Since most of the regular chatters are sajhaities and the issue had been public already, I don't think it is a violation of confidentiality or trust. BTW, if you haven't visited chatroom yet, Try it, it's fun! Although don't get hooked up with it, unless you wanna end up being someone like me. ;) |
| Bhunte | Posted
on 02-Nov-03 06:38 PM
I don't know whose underwear Kalanki is washing at this moment. If you find me liar or whatever I can't stop you. Ok? |
| KaLaNkIsThAn | Posted
on 02-Nov-03 06:47 PM
11 points on KaLaNkIsThAn ta aayena ni, I am disappointed. ;) Laaz pani kasto doodh-pauroti pachaako jasto pachaako ni hau! eheh! |
| hyaterica | Posted
on 02-Nov-03 07:26 PM
kalanki and iso bro.. don't you think it's not even worth replying to this person..yet you guys keep doing it.. |
| phateko_kattu | Posted
on 02-Nov-03 07:53 PM
I support Bhunte . And I am extremely sympathetic towards Isolated Freak for his personal life has been googled .Bhunte might have made mistake by mentioning IF's personal life but they are friends and they hurt each other ,they love each other .Where there is war ,there is a love .Bhunte's latter posting is apologetic . But who gave this idiot called kalankistan to show off in here ? He is attacking Bhunte because he talked about IF's personal life .Now Kalankistan is talking about Bhunte's IP ,the way he tracked it down his other nick POONTEY ,the way he boasts about being Moderator in sajha chatroom .Kalanki ,aint you also googling someone else's personal life in here ?? Tero Jiu ma Bhaishi daudeko pani dekh ,Bujhis ??? Kalankistan , I say F*CK you to you . now go and locate my IP :0) |
| KaLaNkIsThAn | Posted
on 02-Nov-03 08:03 PM
Phateko kattu sir!! Yessss Sir!! No bhaisi sir, how about Rango? Ranga ko momo nakhaako dherai bho ke.;) Jyaan de ra lekhyo hai Phateko kattu Sir le, Darrr laagyo!! :P |
| suva chintak | Posted
on 02-Nov-03 08:10 PM
Gentlemen! May be this was our way of Holloween, performing all the ugly and scary rituals to keep away the dead from visiting the living...and I think we did a pretty good job! But the Holloween weekend is over, so I ask all of you, especially IF, Bhunte, Kalanki to let this thread die its natural death! I have enjoyed all of your postings, and I respect you all for your unique perspectives, and humor too! And I had the previlege of knowing IFjyu personally this October in China, he is a great guy: intelligent, lively, helpful, polite, and always ready for a cheer and a good laugh. I hope one day I will have the good fortune to meet others as well. I think this is the beauty of Sajha... Move on, it will be a new day soon! SC |
| Soleil | Posted
on 02-Nov-03 08:19 PM
I agree with hyaterika. Goo lai chalayo gandha. It would be the best policy to simply ignore the character such like Bhunte, who make this forum to mudsling, banter and belittle others. Yet, he gnarls upon others and preaches on "decency". Had he only knew the real meaning of decency, he would have it kept private and dealt with his personal vendettas somewhere else. At least not in the public forum. Just on a personal note, Bhunteji, we have seen enough of your whinings. How about sharing some of your positive side? If you do not have those, better stay home and focus on completing your Phd degree, which you've been slacking and loitering for all these years. I wonder if your wife and kids do get the time to enjoy with you, to be with you. You pretend to sound like a very responsible person, isn't it time to act like one? If you want others to respect you, show some respect first. I couldn't apprehend the fact that an educated and mature person like yourself, would go down to that low level. Seems like you have too much angst in you that turns into vexation towards others. Take it easy, life is short and full of surprises. Cherish the life while you can, shelter positiveness than harboring negativity. Please, for god's sake, give us one positive side. One thing that we all can agree. One thing that we all can laugh at it. p/s: I will not be posting anymore on this topic. I know Bhunte is going to start a new thread, or atleast tries to banter me here. That doesn't bother me a bit. It's Bhunte who's got problem. Not me. peace!!! |
| KaLaNkIsThAn | Posted
on 02-Nov-03 08:27 PM
Okay Aghi hisap milyathyo, hehe.. ahile afno hisap namilera babaal bho!! Phat Sir!! Yesto hepera lekhi dine bhanya la la cha cha, Iso lai chai lakha lakha, haamlai chai pakha pakha, Sauta ko chora jasto gardine? La La cha cha!! I was hoping for promotion, insted you gave me Lopppa!! Phat sir, sir no understand understand, Taato taato blood boiling over my father's eklo rahar laagdo choro. eh!! Kuro nabujhi jhamtidine Phat sir's habit no good good hehe!! Phat Sir, let me tell you again, you don't have to track anyone down in sajha chatroom. Phat sir aai bakshinu bhaa chaina jaasto cha, yesso nirikshyan garna aai bakshyos na, you will be amazed how clearly you can see through your phateko kattu!! eh... Kuro nabujhi sir le gorkhe ragat dekhai dine! Tyasto taato taato ragat yo moro Kalanki lai dekhaunu satta Bari khanna gaa bhe ek ropani khanni sakthyo!! :D:D Pelyo pelyo, phat le pelyo! eh.. back to hisap!:) |
| czar | Posted
on 02-Nov-03 10:52 PM
It discomfits me that the cloak of public inquiry is used to gratify the baser instincts of a nosey parker. Digging and spilling dirt on public and quasi public figures is one thing, doing it on other sajha members is quite another. Bhuntey, if it feels like you're the duck in the shooting gallery at this time, then you walked right into it. If you, as an experienced and savvy Sajhapur resident, resorted to taking personal potshots then perhaps its time for you to evaluate your modus operandi. On another matter, I have observed Kalanki to be an astute young man who is a gentleman in every sense of the word. He's not the sort that can be unduly influenced or stampeded into performing an injustice. Mr. P. Kattu, perhaps you have by now confirmed that the public IP of EVERY chatter is displayed for ALL to view the moment any user logs in. If a moderator takes note of it, then he/she is being vigilant. It does not constitute an unethical violation of privacy. I just wonder if you are man enough to reconsider your remarks directed at Kalanki. |
| Bhunte | Posted
on 02-Nov-03 11:34 PM
why has Hysteria here? Go get treatment in pagal hospital, ok? Soli (aka soleli) ma goo rakhera kasle sunghdai chha han? Ajhai thapi diun? ha ha ha Czar, thanks for the critical suggestions. Yes, Kalanki might be nice gentleman. But I also see him trying to be as much as biased view as possible. |
| Bhunte | Posted
on 02-Nov-03 11:35 PM
Who has Hysteria here? Go get treatment in pagal hospital, ok? Soli (aka soleli) ma goo rakhera kasle sunghdai chha han? Ajhai thapi diun? ha ha ha Czar, thanks for the critical suggestions. Yes, Kalanki might be nice gentleman. But I also see him trying to be as much as biased view as possible. |
| Bhunte | Posted
on 03-Nov-03 12:01 AM
Kalanki wrote: "I learned about the IP addresses you used. I asked Poontey to change his name many times, and once he changed his name to "BHUNTE". Now "bhunte" is a registered name, there is no way Poontey could change his name to BHUNTE and remain there for more than 60 seconds if the chatter was not BHUNTE himself." This is really serious. Is my password shared to defame me? It is shocking to learn that the so called Poontey was able to change his nick as bhunte. I asked San as soon as I saw the banner as I stated earlier. So, I have no clue or answer what had happened there. How do I know if criminal like gang is conspiring against me? If the chat scripts and user's ISP are logged, probably those in web management would be able to tell something about it. In the chat room, I log as Bhunte, Juwaiinsaheb, and Hellosathi. The former two is password protected (I believe), and Hellosathi isn't. I will not be using Hellowsathi now onwards. Rest are up to the readers and management to evaluate this issue. |
| Bhunte | Posted
on 03-Nov-03 12:05 AM
I believe passwords cann't be accessed by others. IT people can also further explain aboiut it. |
| nepalki_chori | Posted
on 03-Nov-03 12:13 AM
katti ............. kich kich kich kich sajhapur ma............. aba ta shanti chunai parne ho.................... aba josle je bhanepani bhai halyo ni...........katti karaira .:P pugyoooooooo pugyooooooo |
| Bhunte | Posted
on 03-Nov-03 12:22 AM
aba karaundaina jasle je bhane pani, tara tyo mero password kasari leak bhayo ta (if Kalanki is true). Hope the management would address it. If poontey had attacked Poonte, then Poonte had my real emails. He might have written me. Poonte knows me since last three years and the way I talk or behave, etc. I really don't know what the other Poontey had attacked Poonte. This is serious. |
| SITARA | Posted
on 03-Nov-03 04:17 AM
My my my!!!! A long time ago Bhunte defended me (without having known me); I was impressed. Now, IF ji has defended a much maligned Devyani; I AM touched. So, both are no better nor worse than the other when it comes to decency. However: Bhunte ji, there is this thing called curiousity, which needs to be curbed at appropriate times. Social etiquette demands that it be so. I don't mind when people I don't know, ask me what I do for a living but I do mind when they ask how much I earn!!!! Here, again, social etiquette demands that people NOT express the latter part of their curiousity. At that point, curiousity translates into "getting into other people's business" and therefore "uncool". You may not intend malice, but it does hurt people; Ruck's is one such example. There is fun and laughter but, if it is at another person's expense, only one person gets to laugh; the inflictor. I think you are a fine man, as I have had the good fortune to interact with the sensitive side of you. And int he same token, IF ji is a fine, young, brilliant, gentleman who does not need to be slandered in public. You guys met under trust;it was unethical of you to write such nasty things about him. As for Kalanki, I respect him; he has an emotional intelligence that very few possess. As a moderator in Sajha, he has always been fair. So, good folks of Sajha, Halloween is gone; lets look forward to Thanksgiving and give thanks to all we have and much we don't!!!! My peaceful, positive energies to all three of you! |
| SimpleGal | Posted
on 03-Nov-03 05:27 AM
I agree with Suva Chintak and Sitara dijju---Halloween's gone and Thanksgiving is around the corner! Let's choose wisely! People make mistakes and admitting it earns respect than unnessarily defending yourself. So, let's bury the hatchets already! In peace. |
| ashu | Posted
on 03-Nov-03 06:21 AM
Sitara wrote: "[Bhunte and Isolated Freak] met under trust; it was unethical of [Bhunte] to write such nasty things about him." Very well said, Sitara. I agree totally. Being away from Sajha for the past few days , I don't know the whole story here, but, from what I could make out from the postings above, I am stunned by Bhunte's 11-point personalized outburst against IF. In some way, this whole incident comes as a shock to me all the more because it was me who had called Isolated Freak last August to tell him, "You've got to meet Sajha dot com ko Bhunte who is here in Kathmandu for a few days. He is really remarkable, inspiring and is worth meeting." Then again, hey, life happens. Ke garne? *********** I met Bhunte for about two hours in Kathmandu, and came away very impressed with him. I am NOT going to revise my opinion of him just yet. I have known Isolated Freak for about two years now. Isolated Freak, like all of us, is no saint. But one thing that has impressed me the most about him is that though he has -- to my taste, anyway -- extreme political views, he always appears willing to be persuaded otherwise with reason. And, quite seriously, on a number of occasions, I have seen him change his positions on social, economic and political issues, without bitterness or resentment, when confronted with stronger, verifiably true evidence. Sure, Isolated Freak may not be an intellectual, but I have seen him work hard to be intellectually honest, and that's something worth appreciating him for. Plus, on a lighter note, IF may be not be a looker by Bhunte's high standards, but I have always been amazed with the way IF attracts some of the most beautiful women this side of Bagmati to be his friends for coffee and dinner . . . Then again, as that Rod Stewart song, some guys have all the luck :-) Other than that, Bhunte and IF, do drain your heart of bitterness, and live and let live. Life is too short to this kind of kaata-kaat and maara-maar, yaar. oohi "friends to you both" ashu ktm,nepal |
| isolated freak | Posted
on 03-Nov-03 07:08 AM
Dear all, Thanks for your kind words. The reason I posted this here was not for sympathies nor for anything. An acusation was made in the other thread that I cried to get it removed, and to prove that I am in no way affected by these sorts of baseless accusations, I reposted it here. That was it. It was also to let everyone know that probably its a good idea to think 2000 times before meeting anyone from Sajha in person. This all reminds me of my favorite The Simpsons episode: There is this poor kid from the middle of nowhere. He works hard and gets his high school, college, graduate school and 3 PhD degrees from "correspondence". He sort of becomes a hero because of his achievements. He is on TV. Mr. Burns sees him on TV and hires him to work at his nuclear reactor. The very first day, welkl, the very first hour of work, he starts complaining on how people are slacking off there. He especially develops this hatred towards Homar Simpson because Homar doesn't take anything seriously but Mr. burns still has him. Seeing him get bitchy towards him everyday, Homar invites him over for a nice dinner at his house. At Homar's house, this kid sees the pictures of Homar with Jimmi Carter, Neil Armstrong, The Smashing Pumpkins and all those celebraties whom he could never even in his wildest dream imagine meeting. This fuels his anger even more. He thinks that all the slackers in the world have it all and such hard working people like him have nothing whatsoever. Then next day at work, he behaves like a lunatic. He is running around here and there., getting bitchy and breaking things off. Then he enters Homar's workplace, i.e, the master control room. As everyone sensing his mood that day, try to prevent him from holding the bundle of live wire, but he doesn't listen to anyone and the 2200000 volts of electric current in his body kills him. Then at the funefral, Rev. Lovejoy starts to go on and on about this poor kid's achievemnts and talks about the good things about the kid, Homar Simpson who has been sleeping the whole time murmus in his dreams-- "hey, change the channel", and eveyone cheers. Then Mo goes, "here's our Homar" and they all drink beer. The poor kid soon becomes a history. Anyways, thanks ashu dai for your kind words, but as you said, I have extreme views and unless and until proven otherwise, I don't change my views at all. Ce'st la vie, k garney. Some people opt to be Homar Simposn, some opt to be that poor "poor" kid. namaste. I wish everyone well. |
| isolated freak | Posted
on 03-Nov-03 07:10 AM
As everyone sensing his mood that day, try to prevent him from holding the bundle of live wire, he doesn't listen to anyone and the 2200000 volts of electric current in his body kills him. |
| Poonte | Posted
on 03-Nov-03 07:53 AM
I too have had my share of utter frustration and disappointment with Bhunte -- tried to resolve it privately, in vain (it made matters worse), and decided a while ago that I am better off completely ignoring this individual. However, I find it rather unnecessary to make this private MAMALA public here and now; eventhough I wonder whatever happened to Bhunte's ultimatum of "100 hours" to bring our dirty laundry in KURAKANI. Having said that, in view of the larger PUBLIC interest of Sajha, I think we as a community would be far better off if we all refrained from some of Bhunte's traits such as: 1. being excessively intrusive on others' private matters, and making them public whenever he feels like, either to attack, or to make fun of, the subject. 2. being insensitive by posting totally irrelevant pictures and "antha-na-santha" ko kuraas, and spoiling the fun of otherwise wonderful threads. Examples: Nepe's "Nepe On the Tears" and Jira's "Aaja ko pramookh samachar," just to name a couple! 3. being offensive by posting other people's pictures, or by making fun of others' sensitive issues. Example: "Congratulations Ruck" thread, which was eventually deleted precisely because of what Bhunte posted. (Check out his moronic follow up in "Our Bundle of Joy" too!) I also remember him posting MY picture on Kurakani without my consent, that too when I didn't even know who Bhunte was, which later became one of the thorny issues that sparked our private jhagada. 4. being arrogant by desperately trying to defend his mistakes by bringing in completely-out-of-the-context issues, instead of offering a simple apology. Rather than realizing from his mistakes, he repeats them again and again. Other than these, I think Bhunte has also offered some interesting and intriguing postings in Sajha, which I do appreciate. As for the "Poontey" episode in the Sajha chatroom, I only became aware of it after FEW people alerted me what Bhunte was upto. I think the question of why someone would do that (especially after having a private altercation with "Poonte") carries far more weight than why someone would keep track of someone else's IP. I am simply thankful to those who looked after, and protected, my ID. ************ Aba finals nasidhe samma mareni Sajha ma aunna bhaneko...asahiya bhayera ukus-mukus paardyo yo issue le...hopefully aba feri farkana naparos! |
| najar | Posted
on 03-Nov-03 08:09 AM
lekhdina bhanera basdaa basdai pani could not help throwing my two cents...don't know where to start or end, i can write pages at the same time feel like don't have anything to say.... regardless.... Defending, disagreeing and disputing is one thing, but resorting to ugliest form by unfolding one's personal matters, what sort of defence mechanism is that? Bhunteji, don't get me wrong--we are certainly glad to have you aboard (if i recollect correctly you have been active for not too long), it is terrific to have an interaction from an educated, experienced and humorous person like you. However, whether you admit or not you have put a number of posters at awkward position (based on my limited readings here on this board), and now this-- bringing up the matters from a private conversation, where did that come from? is there something called a courtesy, trust and respect here? I consider myself lucky in getting an opportunity to have met several wonderful sajhaites in person, some even before i came to sajha. The way i am seeing this thread is how would I feel if any of them for e.g. VV, Paschim, Arnico, ashu, Poonte, Sitara, S-gal et al. would post the matters that i discussed with them in private here in a nicely labelled bullet form. Bhunteji, you may have written what you wrote in response to the rage instilled upon you due to some postings directed at you. But somehow you overlooked the fact that when you write something on this forum it transcends the issue between the two at stake taking a public domain in a form of "jaatra" and a mere amusement to others, in this case quite unpleasant for readers to read it also. I am not here to support Isolated Freak either, i don't think he is seeking any either. Following his postings for long now--have seen him argue, debate, write about himself (good and bad), and seems to be persistent on his stand and behavior. I may not agree with everything he says, but does not mean i would resort to unveiling the conversation i've had with him Moreover, not only is your rage limited within the parameter of this thread, but you drag the issue elsewhere in a totally irrelevant thread--what is all that about? For e.g taking the Isolated issue on curiosity thread, taking strong undue satire to kalanki on GRE thread etc. I hope you take these points constructively--look forward to reading more of pleasant/constructive/positive postings from you. Sorry to take this thread to an extra length, just had to say it...... Lets not ruin the dynamics of sajha, but rather cherish and appreciate what it has/will offer.............. |
| saroj | Posted
on 03-Nov-03 08:28 AM
I know what we are missing here. We are missing GP to come in and retort on the dynamics of ganging up on Bhunte because he's different from most of the other visitors. In jest. |
| allare | Posted
on 03-Nov-03 08:36 AM
Saroj, You cracked me up :) . Long before, in some thread, I had mentioned that Sajha need one "SAJHA MENTAL HOSPITAL". |
| dautari | Posted
on 03-Nov-03 12:32 PM
Shanti .. Shanti... |
| Bhunte | Posted
on 03-Nov-03 01:36 PM
Sitara, Ashu, Najar, SimpleGal: Thanks for the suggestions. I will take them in my future postings. Poonte: So you firmely attesting that Bhunte did Poontey episode. I don't know how that conspiracy has been hatched against me. Only the doers will be able to tell. I have already stated my positions in that episode after i learned from Kalanki. I have taken that issue with San as well. I read your char sutriye bunda haru. Listen, further to add on the personal note, the first post in San and Sajha posted by ashu is about you. Hope you have read that as well and give spastikaran to sajhaites. If Ruck has anything to say in Bundle of Joy, let her speak. I didn't write without any reasons. |
| Bhunte | Posted
on 03-Nov-03 01:38 PM
read as "....the first post by me in San and Sajha thread created by Ashu..." on that poonte issue. thx |
| Bhunte | Posted
on 03-Nov-03 01:59 PM
San has responded about my concern of the the hacking of password if that had ever happened. Hope that clears up the issue. >>>>There is no way I can go back and check the validity of those statements so I suggest we rest this case. In any event the chat server is run by an independent company and I don't keep track of any IP addresses. If you feel your password was hacked for the chatroom then you will have to take it up with the server administrator of the chatroom. The chatroom admin can be contacted through http://www.everywherechat.com Thanks <<<<< |
| Bhunte | Posted
on 03-Nov-03 02:02 PM
The above reply was in response to my email to San as copied below: >>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 3:59 AM Subject: my password hacked? San ji, After reading Kalanki's post (if he is not bluffing) in "Bhunte's 11 points on me" thread someone seems to have hacked or accessed my password. He is referring that someone as Poontey logged in as bhunte and attacked to Poonte. I have no idea what happened there until I read Kalanki's post. That's why i had asked you about the banner when i saw you the other week in Sajha chat room. I understand this is an unnecessary burden to you, but I am very confused. I only use the nicks bhunte, juwaiinsaheb, and hellosathi. The former two has same passwords, and the last one doesn't. I appreciate your suggestion. Thanks, Sincerely, .....<<<< |
| KaLaNkIsThAn | Posted
on 03-Nov-03 02:29 PM
"The lady doth protest too much, methinks." |
| Bhunte | Posted
on 03-Nov-03 03:53 PM
Poonte wrote: >>>>I too have had my share of utter frustration and disappointment with Bhunte -- tried to resolve it privately, in vain (it made matters worse), and decided a while ago that I am better off completely ignoring this individual.....<<<< Poonte Mahasaye jyu, to be more transparent from my part with you why I am dissatisfied with you, expect a commentary from me about you in the next 24 hours probably in a separate thread as promised. As I am busy in some other stuffs and it will take a little while to write. I am ready to be your guest. |
| san | Posted
on 04-Nov-03 04:35 AM
Bhunte, Just writing to ask you to be a little more considerate of other people's personal lives and not making personal matters public. Many viewers themselves have tried to tell you to not post unrelated messages or pictures on other threads. I prefer not to have to intervene in most cases hoping that the sajha spirit is maintained, but in view of how long things have been dragging on and after reading your last posting where you have promised more personal comments, I feel it's time for me to make this request. What is sajha spirit? Sajha is born out of a desire to bring our communities together - to bring us closer. Any activity (related to this site) that brings us people together either physically or in our minds is the sajha spirit. If your actions continue to ignore and disrespect the sajha spirit, then I am afraid we have a mismatch here between the goal of this site and your personal goals. Lastly please don't take it personally. I understand each of us come from different backgrounds and experiences and what is right for one person might not be right for another person. You might be perfectly right in your behavior, but it's just that it does not go along well with the goals of this site. I hope you can be considerate of that. Best Wishes, San |
| rbaral | Posted
on 04-Nov-03 05:19 AM
OK. For a long time I thought I would keep off this thread. But, as everyone knows, personal priorities change with time, and decisions change with changing events. There is a very fine line between personal and public matter. Bringing Debyani's picture to public forum and asking for her whereabouts became an intervention to personal realm to someone else, whereas trying to pull someone's wife into the thread in its response did not alert *anyone* in the sajha world. This is a dilemma. This has transpired me into plumetting a rule #0101 in another thread. No history of Shaha dynasty will be complete without Debyani's name. She was born to a very aristocratic family in the first place, and she dated with the 'then would be king' of Nepal for several months if not years. She has remained an apex around the epitome of tragic June 5 royal killings. And, still we should be barred from being inquisitive of her whereabouts! If not a supercolossal dilemma, what is it? I completely agree with San in that a right behavior for one is not right for everyone. But, for me, IF's attempt to drag Bhunte's wife into this thread has no excuse, further, it is entirely unacceptable, and a very vulgar way of expressing his faith to the faimilies he is loyal to. To add, without reading the thread completely, lobbying against Bhunte is outrightly deceitful on their part. My two cents. Namaste. Rishi To add: I have never met in real life with anyone who have contributed to this thread. |
| Bhunte | Posted
on 04-Nov-03 06:22 AM
San ji, Thank you for your suggestions. As a new comer to the Sajha I may not have understood some of the customary practices here, but I am for Sajha spirit and will keep this spirit. The promise on the last post was not personal but of common concern. I was about to write how Poonte have been sexually harassing ladies Sajhites and verbally abused me. Definitely his aghori yon pipasu hidden agenda is against the sajha spirit. That's what I just wanted to detail out about that dangerous guy in a separate thread. Now, I will not further if it is not of a common concern. Hope everyone understand Sajha policies. Thanks. Bhunte |
| Bhunte | Posted
on 04-Nov-03 06:30 AM
Thanks Rishi ji. You have truely read my mind about why i had to resort detailing IF. IF's disloyalty towards King Birendra is disgusting. You can easily read from his reply. |
| Bhunte | Posted
on 04-Nov-03 06:53 AM
Rishi ji, Devyani's love story with the prince was for 7 years... |
| isolated freak | Posted
on 04-Nov-03 06:54 AM
Rbaral, Seems like you misread my post. I, in no way dragged bHunte's wife into Sjaha. Either you didn't udnerstand my writinga t all, which I doubt, or you deliberately chose to misread me, either thing, I don't really have time to provice you with a long clarification. However, here's what I wrote, hypothectically speaking means,m imagining a scenario, which has nothing to do with the real events/scenario: ". After the whole unhappy incident, she chose to remain out of Nepal and out of the public and the media. This automatically makes her a non-public figure. She is an as ordinary Nepali as Bhunte or his wife. Would our Bhunte ji appreciate somebody posting his wife's pic, who, hupothetically peaking, was once the beauty queen of PK campus and was talk of the whole Bagh-Bazar-Putali Sadak area?" |
| saroj | Posted
on 04-Nov-03 06:58 AM
If Bhunte's wife was once the beauty queen of PK campus, it is very wrong of Isolated Freak to bring this up. An 11 point dissatisfaction write up about you does not make it fair to start bringing up someone's wife, mother or father in the discussion. |
| isolated freak | Posted
on 04-Nov-03 07:19 AM
saroj, please read the posts carefully, if you are interested. again, as someone who relies on his friends to learn about his mistakes, I just learned from San, a friend and well wisher for a long time now, that maybe the words that I chose to defend Devyani at first and my "hypothetically-speaking" example was somehow misowrded, I admit to have made that mistake. However, this in no way means that I shouldn't have defended Devyani. Like I said in some other thread that I would have defended any harui rame shyame and geeta seta rita, if his/her pics was posted and was being used to satisfy somebody's larger than life ego and was probviding some emotionally stable people with his/her daily dose of morphine at Sajha. namaste |
| rbaral | Posted
on 04-Nov-03 07:47 AM
IF, You have passionately visualized three possibilities, viz., 1. I misread your postings 2. I deliberately chose to misread 3. You have been kind enough to use the words "hupotheticall peaking", which gives you a freedom to write what you wrote Non of your postulates give the slightest hint that you **might** have committed a mistake. Or, the entire responsibility lies on me of understanding what I understood of your writings, in all eternities. Your stance, in itself, proclaims of an impossibility of remotest possibility of an error on your side. And, that is where you seem to have chosen to belong! It brings to where you are!! And also, your enlightenment on the Laxman Rekha of Public and Private figure -- her choosing to go out of the country, out of the public and upon her wish of keeping heself off the media automatically makes her a non-public figure. No doubt that Debyani deserves a respect of her privacy. Had the tragic incident not happend on July 5, we would by now be adderssing her a Crown Princess. And also, she deserves a decent respect in all aspect of life, no doubt about that. My only question is about your selection of colloquium to express a respect, to someone who deserves. I hope Debyani, a daughter of a top-notch school graduate, understands well that to resort to your complimenting is no better than to become a king from my highschool age memory, who, brownnosed by his aides, went to a public ceremony completely naked! |
| san | Posted
on 04-Nov-03 07:47 AM
Rbaral Thanks for writing your thoughts on this. Most of the time, I let things like this slip through for a while hoping that it's just a glitch in the matrix. I chose to intervene at this point since there have been other cases as well where Bhunte has brought up personal stuff First one I recall was with Poonte, then it was with Ruck, then in few other threads he has made some personal comments, and now again with Isolated Freak, with another one written after my earlier message about Poonte again. Bhunte you posted about Poonte's personal life again after I had asked you to not bring personal stuff in here. It does not matter if whatever you said is true or not. What matters is that you cannot try to make sajha a place for personal mud slinging. What Poonte or anyone else for that matter, does in his/her own personal time is not a topic for discussion here at sajha. You can discuss ideas, public figures, general opinions, BUT, you cannot bring up what someone does in his/her free time and attempt to vilify someone personally. Sajha is NOT a place to come in and write personal derogatory and defamatory statements about people who you don't like in your personal life. If you want to write about public figures, it is fine, but not regular individuals like you, me, poonte, Ruck, or other individuals who have a right to live thier personal life the way they want to without having someone bring it up for public discussion. This is not about Isolated Freak and Bhunte. This is about a policy of sajha whereby you are NOT allowed to bring up personal issues and try to make a mud slinging contest here. On the same issue, bringing up family members in a discussion is VERY WRONG. Even if it is chocholate covered as a HYPOTHETICAL situation, bringing up someone's wife, brother, sister, mother or father is COMPLETELY WRONG. Hence my suggestion to IF regarding the use of the Hypothetical situation. Anyways, I think I have made myself clear. No more personal mud slinging. Action will be taken against ANYONE who cannot follow the basic common sense rule of respecting other's personal space. Generally there is always grace period to see if a perpetrator of this rule realizes and begins to abide by the rule. But in this case the grace period is about to end. NO MORE PERSONAL MUD SLINGING. |
| Bhunte | Posted
on 04-Nov-03 08:19 AM
San ji, I have no disagreement with the sajha policies. Hope other parties also understand and abide. Thanks again. Bhunte |
| ssNY | Posted
on 04-Nov-03 08:55 AM
This has been a fascinating cat fight to watch from afar. Not knowing anyone in Sajha, let alone IF and Bhunte, I have enjoyed reading the posts and I thought of not posting anything as others were adding quite some intellegent remarks. But here I am. IF - rbaral makes a lot of sense. Don't take it as an attack from him. But, I do understand you and I'd have done the same thing you have been doing here, trying to clarifye. After all 11 points came from somewhere else. Bhunte - YOU'VE BEEN WARNED by San. Take it easy, man. What has been done cannot be undone but, restrain yourself - in the future. Be constructive on other subjects. Surely, if you want, you can write about so many other subjects than just about people that are here - and when you do that you're bound to hurt someone. San - "Bhunte Memorial hospital" thread is just one more example of personel attacks. I'd be happy to see it disappear. And as a very famous Los Angeles philosopher, Rodney King, said just a few years ago, "Can we all get along?". |
| allare | Posted
on 04-Nov-03 09:15 AM
As for nnNY, rbaral arguments makes lots of sense to me also. It is non of my buisness to know, from where IF got those 11 points, so never bothered to go in detail. After closely readin this thread, i went to read "Where is She.. " thread, tried to do googling also in Devyani, and got many many links, most of which leads to same person mentioned in "Where is She .. " thread. Its upto individual person, whether to show some respect to devyani or whatever, but by no means, anyone can claim that she is not anymore public figure. If she happened to be not public figure, then, most of us should not have known her. If you put poll here, i guess that more than 90% of sajha members will say that, they have heard about her. San, you can not make everyone happy either by closing some thread or accepting some one's personal request. So just stick to Sajha policy. Personal relationship and friendship is in own place. But as being owner of Sajha, you are not supposed to be biased. Well wisher of Sajha. |
| allare | Posted
on 04-Nov-03 09:17 AM
nnNY = ssNY bad of me that, i never read twice what i wrote.:) |
| saroj | Posted
on 04-Nov-03 09:25 AM
Democracy at it's best A vote for amendment of sajha regulation regarding personal mudslinging has been brought up at the sajha board of trustees. This amendment allows for any two parties to continue to be able to bash each other if and only if, both of them have signed an agreement with sajha head of state withdrawing the general protection clause vested upon them by their membership in sajha. This clause however disallows the bringing up of family matters in public. Corollary to the above amendment if the active members do not ask for 'protection' then they should be allowed to participate in the entertainment that follows to the general public at no cost. This again was a request made for the good entertainment of the general public. As a member of the general public you are required to vote on this. The choices are as follows, please feel free to vote with any comments. A. Total Protection again Personal things and Protecting non-participants whose names need not be dragged into public scrutiny B. Allow members to defend themselves, unless admin is notified by the members themselves, BUT Protecting non-participants whose names need not be dragged into public scrutiny |
| san | Posted
on 04-Nov-03 10:16 AM
Allare that thread was not closed because of bias towards a personal acquaintance or friend. If you have been on sajha for long enough you will notice that threads get closed when people actively inform me and request that the threads get closed. In that particular thread there were 4 different individuals requesting that the thread be closed, in addition to few others who notified me thru email. As the disclaimer says "Please send an email to admin@sajha.com using a valid email address if you want any posting to be considered for deletion. Your request will be handled on a one to one basis." If you look at ANY issues that needed to be resolved, you will see that I have to decide what is good for sajha, without being biased towards anyone. If someone brings up the fact that they know me personally, it does not mean that I will be biased towards them in my judgements. You have not accused me of being biased and I appreciate that. (Sorry for short reply but I have spent too much time on this today!) |
| allare | Posted
on 04-Nov-03 10:34 AM
San wrote: Allare that thread was not closed because of bias towards a personal acquaintance or friend. If you have been on sajha for long enough you will notice that threads get closed when people actively inform me and request that the threads get closed. In that particular thread there were 4 different individuals requesting that the thread be closed, in addition to few others who notified me thru email. " San, you have undermined, who did not inform you or did not send you mail to not close that thread. If there are 20 people participating, and 4 have informed you to close, and rest 16 did not say anything, then voice of rest 16 can be interpreted in many ways. It is upto you, how you take them. Sorry San, if i misunderstood you. |
| san | Posted
on 04-Nov-03 10:59 AM
Allare, According to the sajha disclaimer Sajha.com reserves the right to "remove or deny access to any information or materials, in whole or in part, for any reason whatsoever, in SAJHA.COM's sole discretion." In any event, I will try to explain to you my thoughts on this. How often does someone requests a thread to be deleted? If you have noticed in sajha it's not that often. Hence if someone requests a thread to be deleted then I have to give it serious thought. And if FOUR people request on the thread itself and few others thru personal emails, the I have to give it extra serious thought, which I did, and I decided to close it. Notice, I did not DELETE it. When you drive in a highway and notice a pothole you drive around it. Not many people would take the time to notify the authorities unless it's really big. Depending on how often it gets notified the authorities come to either close up the pot hole or pave a new highway totally. This is not a great example but I hope you get the idea. Best Wishes, San |
| ssNY | Posted
on 04-Nov-03 11:35 AM
Are Allare and San talking about the suggestion I gave to to take off "Bhunte Memorial Hospital"?. If you are, I did that because it seemed very mean spirited to Bhunte from my point of view. And as this thread "11 points" has gone so much nastier, I thought another nasty one was unnecessary. Having said that, "Bhunte Memorial" Hospital is still there. It is called "Sajha Mental Hospital", if I didn't make the mistake again. And Bhunte himself is very much involved in the thread which was kind of nice and surprising to me. He's quite a sport. I thought it wrong, assuming the thread was offensive to Bhunte. Or, I guess, San took the very first posting - which didn't sound very nice to Bhunte. "Can we all get along". - I love the way Rodney King said that.... |
| makuro | Posted
on 04-Nov-03 12:00 PM
This thread proves being known is dangerous. Therefore my suggestion is use anonmyous nick name and don't impart unnecessary information to anybody. When things go well, nothing will happen- if you write well you may earn your reward i,e your fame. Fame comes with many things. Among them lost of privacy. Remember google is there. And Nepali World is so small, one could know about you more than you have known about yourself and your family. If this place is just to exchange idea, then cannot we just exchange idea without revealing who we are? As we have seen here familarity breeds contempt so my suggestion be anonmyous- dont' let others know who you are. |
| Bhunte | Posted
on 04-Nov-03 04:40 PM
ssNY, i take it a frinedly reminder to all. |
| Master_Of_One_Liners | Posted
on 04-Nov-03 11:49 PM
I, a fanatic fan of the Simpsons and blind worshipper of my idol, Homer Simpson, am deeply offended by Isolated Freak's butchery of Homer's name (he committed the unforgivable crime of writing HOMAR again and again). Please crucify him. |
| ru | Posted
on 05-Nov-03 01:30 AM
Master_Of_One_Liners, I can understand if the inapt remark above was due to the fact it was not your especiality, i.e. because it was not exactly one-liner. [Following expert advice for newcommers, because I do not want to start another jhagada in this thread] ..in jest mula. |