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GRE scores and graduate admission

   Hi Dear Sajha Friends!!! After doing 03-Nov-03 hehe
     Hehe, So called few grads from Sajhal 03-Nov-03 Bhunte
       Thanks Bhunteji for your quick response 03-Nov-03 hehe
         "Our top notch expert like Kalankisthan 03-Nov-03 Brook
           <br> Dear hehe, (its kinda fun saying i 03-Nov-03 Roje
             Roje jee Thanks for your inputs and s 03-Nov-03 hehe
               Do they have KAPLAN in the UK? I am sure 03-Nov-03 Poonte
                 Quite a few of my friends keep on saying 03-Nov-03 Biswo
                   China Institue of Economics Research = < 03-Nov-03 isolated freak
                     IF, It is called Zhongguo Sheke Yuan. 03-Nov-03 Biswo
                       Biswo and Isolated Freak, Almost all 03-Nov-03 sweetP
                         Biswoji covered all main points. I have 03-Nov-03 Himal NY
                           <br> Dear Sweetp: >Almost all Chines 03-Nov-03 Biswo
                             Poonte jee I have heard about KAPLAN' 03-Nov-03 hehe
                               Only thing that will help you in your GR 03-Nov-03 saunak
                                 <br> SweetP and others, I haven't be 03-Nov-03 Brook
                                   <br> I see Biswo had that base somewh 03-Nov-03 Brook
                                     Biswo and Himal NY have strong points. I 03-Nov-03 Neural
                                       Dear Saunak jee Yes, I have heard tha 04-Nov-03 hehe
Brook, Yes, they sell those old GRE q 04-Nov-03 isolated freak
   IF jee Can you buy a copy and send it 04-Nov-03 hehe
     hehe, 20 kuai yuan is 2.5 dollars. Se 04-Nov-03 isolated freak
       Dear hehe mitra, WEll my situation wa 04-Nov-03 gator_guy
         <br> hehe ji, there's actually somethin 04-Nov-03 Brook
           many professors do not believe in gre sc 04-Nov-03 south
             Brook, I think you got one thing wron 04-Nov-03 Biswo
               If you've done reasonably well on your M 04-Nov-03 ashu
                 <br> Thanks for the clarification Biswo 04-Nov-03 Brook
                   IF jee I will write an email and prov 05-Nov-03 hehe
                     typo: lessoned = lessened 05-Nov-03 hehe
                       Hi IF I have just sent an email to yo 05-Nov-03 hehe
                         Yo hehe Bro, I am thinking about appl 05-Nov-03 Chordaku420
                           CD jee It is nice to know that you ar 05-Nov-03 hehe
                             When I took the GRE, the strategy that I 05-Nov-03 Lalupate*Joban
                               Hehe wrote: "I have been following yo 05-Nov-03 ashu
                                 Dear LJ jee Thanks for sharing your s 06-Nov-03 hehe
                                   Hehe Ji, I think you have to start to c 06-Nov-03 VISHONTAR
                                     Vishontar jee Many thanks for your im 07-Nov-03 hehe
                                       hehe, would you mind sending me an em 07-Nov-03 isolated freak
Hey IF Bro, did u get my email ?? 07-Nov-03 Chordaku420
   CD 420, Yes, I did get your mail but 07-Nov-03 isolated freak
     ISO bro, What is your email again ? Y 07-Nov-03 Chordaku420
       IF jee I have emailed you again. Hope 08-Nov-03 hehe


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hehe Posted on 03-Nov-03 02:59 AM

Hi Dear Sajha Friends!!!

After doing master's from the UK, I am currently stuck without any scholarships for the PhD here. So, I am planning to apply for graduate studentship next year in the US for which GRE is compulsory in most of the universities there.

I know Sajha community has a number of well-known, well-read intellects, PhDs and graduate students who could help me out in making my application stronger and score higher in the GRE. Particularly, I am very scared of GRE. So please provide general plus specific tips on how to get high scores, how to prepare for it, how to memorize those 3500 complicated words etc. based on your own experience and idea. Also, please higlight how much score I need to get to get acceptance from the department and also secure full or partial financial help.

Thank you for your suggestions and help

hehe
Bhunte Posted on 03-Nov-03 03:14 AM

Hehe,

So called few grads from Sajhaland seem to be driven away to Kalankiland with the recent trend in Sajha.......eheheh

Having said that, welcome applying for your doctoral program in USA. Most of the information you will get abotu GRE in the university application package which usually mentions the average GRE score of the accepted applicants. However, I suggest you the following:

1. You can practice test GRE so that u will get a chance for a self evaluation and able to find your score range and shortcomings. That will give some idea how much time to prepare for the test. I heard most students prepare for 2-3 months for the test.

2. Some university requires subject specific GRE in addition to general one

3. Don't rely on GRE alone. Research plan, recommendation letters, previous GPA are also equally important.

Wish you good luck. Our top notch expert like Kalankisthan would be able to give you more idea and tips about it. Dont forget to send a flower or note of thanks for his expert advice. ...eheheh
hehe Posted on 03-Nov-03 03:44 AM

Thanks Bhunteji for your quick response with suggestions. I would definitely go for practice test. I started preparing from Barron's GRE book and have got some CDs for practice test but got headaches with those 3500 plus words in the first instance. For other parts, like recommendation, personal statement and previous GPA, I think I am alright but scared with this GRE. I think the general GRE will serve the purpose for me.

I would like to hear more from other sajhaites too. Please give your inputs. Appreciations for your help in advance!!!

hehe
Brook Posted on 03-Nov-03 04:09 AM

"Our top notch expert like Kalankisthan would be able to give you more idea and tips about it. Dont forget to send a flower or note of thanks for his expert advice. ...eheheh"

Was this necessary?
Roje Posted on 03-Nov-03 04:52 AM


Dear hehe, (its kinda fun saying it actually)

I can share my experience with you if you'd like. First of all, DONT memorize those words. If you are good at dissecting a word into its prefix/suffix and the root word, then you are in a much better state. So I would suggest you do reading on Latin/Greek prefixes or suffixes. It gets kinda easy after a little practise.
For me what was helpful was reading USA Today and Wall Street Journal. New words that appeared on those two papers kinda helped me figure out the meaning without knowing the meaning before hand.
Again practise a lot. I think the new system is based on computer system. Hope you are comfortable with that. Time is usually an issue in that.
Quantitative section is pretty trivial. Analytical section requires some writing practise.

Overall its not that bad as you think it is.
I wish you luck and as Bhunte said, its not always GRE that matters. They look at lots of other things and those other things varies from one institution to another.

hehe Posted on 03-Nov-03 05:10 AM

Roje jee

Thanks for your inputs and sharing your personal experience. For words and analytical section, I am reading voraciously whatever I find in the newspapers here (The Guardian, Independent, Times), especially the editorial piece and articles. Yes, besides making the test computer-adaptive, they have also changed the format of test on essay and critical analysis recently.

More suggestions sajhaites please!!!
Poonte Posted on 03-Nov-03 08:26 AM

Do they have KAPLAN in the UK? I am sure they do have an equivalent of KAPLAN if not KAPLAN itself. It's a few-weeks-long class designed to help people taking the GRE. Take it. It helps.
Biswo Posted on 03-Nov-03 08:49 AM

Quite a few of my friends keep on saying me that they would have scored higher in GRE had they prepared more. Then I ask them what keeps them from preparing more?

Hehe, everything matters. Try to score as much as you can, because you will have to impress the admission committee. So, it is important to have great GPA, to have great GRE and great TOEFL, if it applies to you.

Having said that, it is also true that GRE is not everything. In fact, it is just a small component in admission decision in top programs. I have an acquaintee who got 2400/2400, and was a graduate of a very Beijing University. Perfect score. 7th in her class. She applied to every top programs in Economics departments in the United States. Got offer from only one top fifty school. Then when I curiously enquired who got into top Economics programs in Harvard/MIT/Princeton if not her, I figured out that those guys from math department of her university who won gold medal in Math Olympic, those with published paper and doing research with China Institue of Economics Research (may be wrong translation) were the one who got the offer.

Publication, admission package, GRE, GPA etc are all importantly weighted. Make sure you got everything prepared very well. If you ever won any prestigious thing, include it.

WIsh you good luck.
isolated freak Posted on 03-Nov-03 08:54 AM

China Institue of Economics Research = Zhongguo Jing (li) xue (xi) Zhong Xin?
Biswo Posted on 03-Nov-03 10:27 AM

IF,

It is called Zhongguo Sheke Yuan. It is a part of Zhongguo Kexue Yanjiu Yuan.
sweetP Posted on 03-Nov-03 11:10 AM

Biswo and Isolated Freak,

Almost all Chinese students here in my Uni have scored extremely well in their GRE. But when they talk, their spoken English is very bad and carry dictionaries all the time. IT makes me wonder how they score so high in the Verbal part of GRE. I have heard rumors that they send pro-GRE-takers to the exams and pay them to get good scores. Since you both are in China, would you tell us if the rumors are true and how the Chinese students manage to get so high score in Verbal?
Himal NY Posted on 03-Nov-03 11:27 AM

Biswoji covered all main points. I have seen several examples like that with my friends. I just want to add one more thing. If you know which area you are interested in, please do research or reading about it. Find the professors, who work on this area. Read their papers. Tell them you are interested in their work and want to apply for graduate program. When you write your personal statement, please be very clear about why you are really interested in that school and who are the professors you are interested and so forth. You have to show them that you are really interested. It helps a lot.
Good luck
Biswo Posted on 03-Nov-03 02:28 PM


Dear Sweetp:

>Almost all Chinese students here
>in my Uni have scored extremely well
> in their GRE. But when they talk, their
>spoken English is very bad

As long as I know, GRE doesn't test Spoken English.

> IT makes me wonder how they score so
> high in the Verbal part of GRE.

Having been to China, it never makes me wonder about their high GRE score. The Chinese students have this mentality to succeed, so they specialize in answering in tests. Furthermore, I was surprised to find some of my friends in my college days practicing for TOEFL for months, listening to 'listening' practice questions.I strongly believe that those who work hard, despite their weaknesses and obvious disadvantage, eventually attain success. That's what happens with the Chinese. And it is not strange that out of 1.3 billion Chinese, there are always some super-genius people who can tackle all kinds of questions handily.

Except for a few Nepali, most of the Nepalese students I have met want to circumvent these standardized tests. Many score poorly, but come out bragging that they would have done better had they prepared more. I mean what kind of excuse is that?

I think it is important for us to respect the intelligent people, wherever they are from.

> I have heard rumors that they send
>pro-GRE-takers to the exams and pay
>them to get good scores.

Well, I don't believe that to be true. May be there exists some rare cases of such proxy test taking, but hey, wasn't that also something they said happened in SAT in Nepal?

On a serious note, After 2000, for more than a year, there was a surprising spike in the grade that Chinese students scored in GRE. A famous GRE tutorial center in Beijing had made a web based bulletin board, where it asked all those who took GRE in computer to write down all the questions they were asked. It turned out that in a particular month or year, there were about 1000 questions only in verbal section that were asked in China, and they kept on repeating. So, those who consulted to that website before going to take the test scored big time. ETS then asked universities in USA to exercise caution while interpreting those scores.

And finally, to those who know about me, note that I hadn't taken GRE in China:-)
hehe Posted on 03-Nov-03 04:26 PM

Poonte jee

I have heard about KAPLAN's but didn't think serious about attending those classes. I will see whether and where they run the classes.

Biswo jee

I was actually expecting inputs from you. You did write, many thanks for that. Yes, GRE alone may not matter for graduate admission, it is the one I am quite worried about. In other things, like previous GPA, references and application, I think I am alright though I need to concentrate to make the application stronger.

Himal NY jee

Thanks for your suggestions. I will sure contact professors and faculty before I apply and read their papers and other stuffs on the subject matter.

Sweet P Jee

I have also come across a number of Chinese students here who have got very high GREs and TOEFL score but that doesn't seem to reflect in their spoken English. I came to know through themselves that they are taught to prepare for GRE and TOEFL since their secondary schooling. The GRE test format change in analytical section, where you have no more multiple choice answers, you have to write an essay and do critical anaysis, is due to the fact that Chinese students score high in GRE but that did not reflect the intellectual capacity of the student.

Having said that, I found Chinese students very laborious, working all the day and night in the department. I think they concentrate very much in their work. That's why, in Oxford and Cambridge departments (specially in technical departments), literally, one among every three students are Chinese.

Thank you all friends for sharing your experience and ideas. Other friends, please add more suggestions.

Thanks

hehe
saunak Posted on 03-Nov-03 09:36 PM

Only thing that will help you in your GRE is how much quality time you put in it practicing. Another thing, there are some very top-notch schools in the US that will not make it necessary for you to have your GRE. Of course, it depends what you are studying. Best way, communicate with the department and find out all you can about it. There is an irony also--most education departments don't treat GRE as highly as you and I think. Saunak.
Brook Posted on 03-Nov-03 10:46 PM



SweetP and others,

I haven't been to China or anything but I too have pondered how Chinese students manage to score so high on their GRE verbals. I share with you an anecdote which might shed some light on "how they do it".

A friend of mine, an extremely smart Chinese kid who transferred from the University of Beijing stopped going to classes two months before his GREs. He locked him up in his room and memorized words, read up a lot, practiced exercises and did all the good stuff. He was using the usual Kaplan, Barrons, Cliffs and whatever else there's out there to get the practice tests. In addition, he had this suspicious looking volume of what looked like a photo-copied book with a plain cover that said "GRE Past Papers (1991-2000)" in Chinese! Now, ETS didn't allow question papers to be taken outside the test center while the the test was still paper based, and now that it's entirely computer based, so don't ask me how they compiled such a comprehensive volume with 25-30 full length tests accompanied by answers, but I'm told that for a price, you can get them in the streets of Shanghai.

So when the test day finally came- this kid went to take the test not worried too much about the quantitative and analytical sections and thinking he'd get 600 plus in verbal if he got lucky. He's beaming with delight when he comes back. I ask how much? He says- 750! I say wow- how'd you do it? He says- don't tell anyone but the verbal I got was exactly one of the sets they had in 1993! And I had that book memorized from cover to cover. So..I really did get lucky!

That's the story. An "Old is Gold" sort of thing exists for GRE as well. If you have time and if you have Chinese friends in Shanghai, I strongly recommend you try and get hold of this compiliation.

This is not an isolated instance. I got the opportunity to do a couple practice tests from this book while I was taking mine, and I was struck with how these questions- sometimes passages, sometimes entire blocks of analogy questions, and sometimes the entire set- keep repeating.

ps: This is not to take anything away from some other Chinese students who have worked hard in earnest and deservingly scored high on their verbals.
Brook Posted on 03-Nov-03 10:51 PM




I see Biswo had that base somewhat covered =)
Neural Posted on 03-Nov-03 11:19 PM

Biswo and Himal NY have strong points. In addition to H NY's suggestion, if "hehe" is going to publish any paper very soon or about to submit to any journal or partcipitating in any national/int'l conference, it would be better (+ point) if you cite that particular Professor's (with whom u r or going to correspond) paper on your REFERENCE section. Ke garnu, Gau ko gheu, maha, bhaaley liyera jana milena.....this is another upaaya.
Good luck hehe.
hehe Posted on 04-Nov-03 03:49 AM

Dear Saunak jee

Yes, I have heard that the top-tier schools in the US sometimes do not ask for GRE. I will check in the admission office about that.

Brook jee

Thanks for your anecdote. The compilation of previous GRE questions is not easy to get here so I have to depend on the materials I have got and pray for the high scores. I think Chinese students are trained to focus on the test from their early schooling and are score-oriented in learning.

Neural jee, thanks for your good luck wish and suggestion about putting references of the professor in my would-be paper. I have not serious technical (original research)publications yet but have published some general review stuffs in national scale. Anyway, I will try to get published at least one technical paper before my application and include your tips as well.

I would expect more Sajhaites to contribute in this thread. And I have one more question to ask. As I have already an MPhil from here, can I apply directly for doctoral programme there or as a graduate student (MS/MPhil in the first instance). I am not that aware about the university/department requirements there, so would like to request you all to highlight in this matter too.

Thanks for your suggestions and help

hehe
isolated freak Posted on 04-Nov-03 07:04 AM

Brook,

Yes, they sell those old GRE questions here. I myself came across one last week. Costs aroud 20 Kuai yuan, and its a big volume of 10 years of GRE questions. Since, I am in no rush to take the test yet, I didn't get it. Students here get it to practice. I don't see anything wrong with it. Just as even the bright and the best nepali students rely on those old SLC question papers to prepare for the test, the Chinese students rely on those old question papers.

Believe me, these kids to study and those who make it to good schools in the west are not your ordinary and above average kids. These kids at Beijing University are smart.

hehe Posted on 04-Nov-03 07:20 AM

IF jee

Can you buy a copy and send it to me yaar!!! 20 Kuai Yuan bhaneko kati in terms of dollar or pounds? I will reimburse the amount plus postage/parcel charge with a free drink in a pub if you happen to come here or otherwise in Nanglo in Nepal oneday!!!

Hope you are enjoying your stay and study there. Among others, we have one common thing of interest, I like the way you have become fan of 'The Guardian'. I also like it among other dailies here. Chakadi gareko chahi haina hai bro' ):-

hehe
isolated freak Posted on 04-Nov-03 07:26 AM

hehe,

20 kuai yuan is 2.5 dollars. Send me your address by email. For that you need to click on my user name and its 1-2-3 from there. I will mail it to you this week.
gator_guy Posted on 04-Nov-03 08:13 AM

Dear hehe mitra,

WEll my situation was the same as urs about 18 months ago - was about to finish MS from European school and wanna do Phd from US school.

In my opinion, GRE is not that weighty as these US school say, I think they sometimes talk much then it is. See, GRE is a departmental requirement (thats what in my department). The admissions committed will not assess ur application file unless it is complete (means all the application package- letter of recommendation, GRE, TOEFL, research proposal etc should be submitted). The department has set a minimum requirement for GRE and if u go above it, u don have problem. I bet you, believe me or not, having GRE score above the requirement is definitely not a hard job for you. However, i think some top ranked schools are looking for very high score also.

About GRE - try the computer kit (recent one u get after applying for the GRE test). i believe that there will be some repetition of questions from the recent kit on ur exam (it did for me). And about preparation, i think 30 days is fine. Give up the verbal section (its to hard to memorize or so), and i guess for Science degees, verbal scores are not counted (at least in my school). Make sure u know how to attempt the other sections,,,, mathematics is not difficult for we neps. Take for granted, GRE is not that difficult and not ajambari ko buti either

another thing remains more important - who is giving u the money to study??? dhaadh bhaachaa US school fees leee, and at grad studies -- impossible without funds. But believe me,,, there are many funds for u out here. What i observe is - most foreigner students get RA, or some TA also. who gets the RA is solely dependent on the major advisor. U should get well connected with the major advisor (who is ur future anna daata). Ur major advisor is looking for someone who works days and nights for his/her research. Actually, the hidden sentiment to give u the assistantship is to make u work like a BULL. So, why not convince the prof that u r a kinda bull-like working student (i think this really helps). Giving couple of calls to the professor does not hurt (this is what i used to do). ali ali taa gaaf pani lagaunu parchaa yi profs haru lai Remember -- bolne ko pitho pani bikchaa, na bolne ko chamal pani bikdaina.

I am sure ur prof in UK definitely has come colleague profs in US. Once they recommend you, u will definitely land here. u suld seek their help also. Even though they might not have known each other, they do give phone recommendation, which in my opinion is very strong. I thnk oiling/lubricating works every where on earth.

Good luck mitra
Brook Posted on 04-Nov-03 08:41 AM



hehe ji, there's actually something i'd want to know from you. what's your m. phil on?
is there absolutely NOTHING that can be done to secure funds for a phd in england? im asking because i am looking into phd options there as well..
appreciate your thoughts..
south Posted on 04-Nov-03 11:01 AM

many professors do not believe in gre score of chinese. specially in my school and the schools where my friends go. i do not know how they manage to get such a high score like 2200-2400. thier toefl score is also equally impressive but after they come here, professors knows that they are not as good as they seems to be with their gre and toefl. well for me english is just a language, i do not have good english either. i am an engineering graduate student and i believe we can nt judge people just by gre score. gre also has verbal section, so though someone is very good academically and good in logic and good in his major he might not be good in verbal part,which covers 33.33% of gre score. so if someone screwed verbal section his gre score will be low to average and might nt get into big name schools. i have few examples between nepali grad student with lower gre score and chinese with higer gre scores. well one of my friend who got low gre score and his chinese friend got about 2300+. they are in same department and working under same professor. but my nepali friend is way better then the fellow chinese student and according to him, he was really surprised how his chinese friend got so high gre score. my friend is one of the best graduate student there and the chinese student is like no where and i have similar exmaple in my school too where one professor told us like he does nt believe in gre score of chinese people. some people says that they might get collection of question paper or something i am not sure though.

as far as how much gre scores matter for graduate admisson, i think its like 15-20%. i know one nepali guy who got almost 2200 gre but his acadamic performance was so poor that he cold nt get any aid. so gre is not everything, you got to have good recommendation, nice statement and purpose, good acadamic background, good toefl score, and luck. so dont worry too much about gre, give your best shot and try for admission at good colleges.
Biswo Posted on 04-Nov-03 11:18 AM

Brook,

I think you got one thing wrong. You can buy previous GRE questions from ETS, and it is called "Big book" or something like that. The copy that your Chinese friend was preparing was printed probably by Nankai University illegally(lately other priting presses also started publishing them), so costs less than a few dollars. However, ETS doesn't sell those books from retail center, and a typical Chinese student can't afford $30.00 for a book. In China, you know, intellectual property right is a issue that people rarely understand.

The big book contains about thirty real tests, and costs about US$27.00 (This was the price at my time). I have seen a few Nepalese preparing for GRE using that book in Nepal also. I don't think we can blame Chinese students for using all available resources possible to score high. I didn't cover that thing wittingly. I thought everyone knew about those previous questions. It is easy to buy those books in USA also. I am sure ETS sells them from their website too (I haven't checked the ETS website since long though).
ashu Posted on 04-Nov-03 05:47 PM

If you've done reasonably well on your Master's-level coursework, I would advise you not to worry about the GREs that much.

Yes, a little bit of 'exam-related stress' certainly helps one prepare for the test. And so, prepare for it the best way you can (i.e. practice, practice and do nothing but practice doing the old tests), and get the tests out of the way as soon as you can.

Almost all universities know that GREs do NOT really test the kind of stuff that is really important to succeed in a demanding PhD program. Stuff such as self-motivation, self-discipline, focus, an ability to ask original questions, a willingness to work hard and an ability to collaborate with others to do research . . . and so on and on.

If I were you, instead of worrying about the GREs, I would think long and hard to HONESTLY differentiate my application from that of others who have equally good, if
not better, GPA and GRE scores.

And to do that, I would ask lot of questions to myself, and would try to come up with specific answers that fit in coherently, honestly and compellingly with what I want to
do:

Questions such as:

Why PhD for me, at this particular time?

Am I just being a dutiful, good student or am I really intellectually excited to be spending the next several years of life as a garib student?

How does earning a PhD (i.e. investing a number of years of my life as a student) fit
in with my career/intellectual goals?

What are some of the burning academic questions that I want to answer through a dissertation by the time I finish my PhD? Why are these questions intellectually exciting to me or to anyone else in my discipline?

Why this particular university for me? Why this particular department? Why these particular professors? What's so unique about any of those . . . unique in the sense that they all play up to my particular strengths and interests?

What have I published or done to demonstrate that conceptualizing ideas or doing research is what I am really good at?

And so on.

In this age, when there is this torrent of ideas, information and knowledge all the
time all around one, finishing a PhD is NOT so much as a matter of demonstrating
one's intellectual ability as much as a matter of demonstrating one's sheer ability
to sit on a chair and not move until that damn dissertation is done.

Best wishes to you as you make the decisions that help you.

oohi
"Got glued to the chair all morning to finish a a major presentation that's due this afternoon :-)"
ashu
ktm,nepal
Brook Posted on 04-Nov-03 07:29 PM



Thanks for the clarification Biswo. I didn't know the Big Book existed.
hehe Posted on 05-Nov-03 02:38 AM

IF jee

I will write an email and provide my address to you soon. Thank you for your help yaar.

GG jee

Thanks for your personal experiences and suggestions about graduate admission applications and GRE. From what you wrote, I have now developed some confidence and my fear about GRE has lessoned to some extent. I will focus on other parts of application package as well and try to contact/convince the professor in advance.

Brook jee

My MPhil was on Environment and Sustainable Development from one of the prestigious unisi n England popularly known here as Oxbridge. But having done that, I have been quite unlucky in securing funds for PhD. Though I have placements from 7 different unis here including Oxbridge, I didn't get any funding. I had partial funding from one of the universities but that was not enought to start PhD since the difference in fees for UK/EU and overseas studets here is quite high. To cover that, you can apply for Overseas Research Studentship (ORS) for which you need to nominated from the university in the first instance and then final selection would be from the association of all the 101 universities here (Universities UK). Having nominated from the university, I was not selected in the final round from the Universities UK. Personally, I have been quite unlucky and things are not working out for me. Other guys are doing well. I hope that my personal case wouldn't disappoint you in making applications here. I encourage you to apply and if you need any help, don't hesitate to contact me further.

South jee

Thanks for your updates and inputs.

Biswo jee

Thanks for your additional comments.

And Ashu jee

Thanks for your valuable suggestions on making application stronger. I now realise that I need to concentrate equally in other criteria of application as well. I now know that GRE is just one part of the criteria. I have been following your comments and stories on how you helped other people and your brothers in educational matters and application procedures. Hope that you would also help me in the future as well incase I need some specific helps and suggestions in applying.

Hope for more suggestions and inputs from other Sajhaites.

hehe

hehe Posted on 05-Nov-03 02:39 AM

typo: lessoned = lessened
hehe Posted on 05-Nov-03 04:59 AM

Hi IF

I have just sent an email to you. Please check it out.

hehe
Chordaku420 Posted on 05-Nov-03 05:29 AM

Yo hehe Bro,

I am thinking about applyiung for my Masters in Environment and Sustainable Development from Clark University starting next fall. I am planning on taking GRE later in December and I took a GRE class from USDA's Graduate School in DC during the summer and it was really a big help for me. Anways, keep in touch since we both have same Interest.

Freaky Bro,

Get me that old Chinese Book man, I need that really bad.
hehe Posted on 05-Nov-03 05:40 AM

CD jee

It is nice to know that you are applying for Env and Sus Dev there, I found the course very interesting covering all the major issues on environment and sustainable development.

All the best for your application and GRE!!!

hehe
Lalupate*Joban Posted on 05-Nov-03 09:12 AM

When I took the GRE, the strategy that I adopted for the GRE Verbal section was clear-cut:

A. Master the words thoroughly during the preparation stage, so that you can breeze through the antonym, analogy and fill_in_the_blanks sections in supersonic speed (if one is permitted the luxury of calling the speed of roughly-five-such-questions-per-minute "supersonic.")
Hyperbole, anyone? :)

B. Read the "comprehension" section with great care. Dohoryaayi tehryaayi. Oltaai paltaai. This is often the section where one tends to err. Let's face it, some of the passages are way too boring. What is more, passages, by their very length (compared to other sub-sections of the Verbal section), tend to challenge one's attention span. During the exam, I leveraged the time saved in other verbal sub-sections to read the passages again, again and again.

For me, the strategy paid off quite well, in the sense that I missed the full marks in the Verbal section by a narrow margin. I hope this strategy, if adopted, works for you as well.
ashu Posted on 05-Nov-03 05:28 PM

Hehe wrote:

"I have been following your comments and stories on how you helped other people and your brothers in educational matters and application procedures. Hope that you would also help me in the future as well incase I need some specific helps and suggestions in applying. "


Sure, hehe.
Time-permitting, do count on my assistance.

Nothing gives me more pleasure than seeing felllow Nepalis succeed at what they do.

oohi
ashu
ktm,nepal
hehe Posted on 06-Nov-03 02:47 AM

Dear LJ jee

Thanks for sharing your strategies and tips for scoring higher in verbal section. This section is the one I find quite difficult in comparison to other sections.

Ashu jee

Thank you very much for your commitment for help. I will write you if I need any specific help during my application.

hehe
VISHONTAR Posted on 06-Nov-03 07:46 AM

Hehe Ji,
I think you have to start to concentrate on GRE study, and start to process for application because most of the graduate schools have deadline by Feb 1.

I don't think that you will be able to publish any paper by Feb, and hope you have already done with your courses, so you can not change your grades. So forget about this part. To make your application strong what can you do now is get good GRE score. If I were you, I would already have started to study, exam and enamy should not be understimated. Trust me or not, but GRE score plays significant role.

Most important is Verbal part, becasue quantitative won't be that problem for Nepali students, our mathematics is reasonably good. You mentioned you have Barron's book, there are I guess around 3000 words, if you feel these words handy, I bet you will score good. Be very much familier with Most Frequent Words (MFW), that are given in Barron. Some universities in some subjects (mainly science), don't care about analitical part, they just count highest score 1600, check this out.

For verbal I suggest you "Word Power Made Easy", by Norman lewis, I guess Brithsh Book, can be found easily there.

Impress your professor and have wonderful relationship with other two professors, you need there letters of recommandation, that counts a lot, you must be aware of it because you are already in UK from Nepal.


Half part of a sentence of Ashu Dai,
<<
as a matter of demonstrating one's sheer ability
to sit on a chair and not move until that damn dissertation is done.
<<

is rally touching. But for you first aim is admission and second is assistanceship.

May I be helpful to you!

Vishowntar
hehe Posted on 07-Nov-03 01:26 AM

Vishontar jee

Many thanks for your important tips for GRE preparation and graduate application. Yes, I need to concentrate on getting higher score in GRE and focus on the verbal section. Thank you for recommending the book on word-power, I will buy a copy of it.

There is actually no time for submitting papers and getting published for this year. So, I should take care of other parts of applicatioin, like good recommendation, personal statement etc. etc. and the GRE.

Thanks once again for your suggestions

hehe
isolated freak Posted on 07-Nov-03 08:53 AM

hehe,

would you mind sending me an email again? I tried to send you a mail through sajha but it bounced back.

Chordaku420 Posted on 07-Nov-03 10:20 AM

Hey IF Bro,

did u get my email ??
isolated freak Posted on 07-Nov-03 10:25 AM

CD 420,

Yes, I did get your mail but you didn't send me your address. So, could you please send me yoiur address.

KKC from NYC, if you are areding this, send me an email.
Chordaku420 Posted on 07-Nov-03 10:57 AM

ISO bro,

What is your email again ? You can send me email at chordaku420@yahoo.com
hehe Posted on 08-Nov-03 06:00 AM

IF jee

I have emailed you again. Hope you will get it this time. Write me back when you find time.

Yours

hehe