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| jaya_nepal |
Posted
on 13-Nov-03 11:57 AM
Hello Sajhaites:
Canadian Consulate General visited my college today to brief the students about Canadian Immigration Laws. The assessment points have been reduced from 75 to 67 since September 2003. The points criteria is as follows:
25 - Education. Max for MA or PhD level.
24 - Profiency in Language. 16 for English and 8 for French.
21 - Work Experience
10 - Age (21 - 49)
10 - Arranged Employement in Canada
10 - Adaptability in Canada (includes work expe in Canada, relatives and other factors).
It has become easy now. Hope Nepali folks would apply for it soon. Good Luck everyone..!!
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| Learner |
Posted
on 13-Nov-03 09:37 PM
Beware! Research thoroughly before you apply. Don't fall victim to politician's conspiracy. At least, ask someone living there before applying.
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| Learner |
Posted
on 13-Nov-03 09:41 PM
Once more, beware! It's totally insane to come here without a job. New immigrants should have canadian experience to get even a survival job. Shame!
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| ghamandi |
Posted
on 13-Nov-03 09:51 PM
It's better to stay in Nepal and have plain rice, daal, gundruk ko jhool and sing than become a slave in foreign country. That's what 99% of immigrants are...I have seen with my own eyes. They may earn a lot of money of course, but eventually are working exactly like slaves. One thing I noted was - Abraham Lincoln abolished slavery in America but who in Canada?
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| ghamandi |
Posted
on 13-Nov-03 10:04 PM
Bringing yearly 300,000 new immigrants while there is so much difficulty finding even a survival job (to work at night even) unless you know somebody. Can somebody imagine - 85% of jobs are hidden, why? They say, employers don't want to spend time and money advertising. Absolutely lie - it is to make life of immigrants miserable. What I clearly see is that there is high demand of slaves in Canada. I tried to get answer to my simple question - why they are bringing more and more people while there's severe unemployment problem. I feel, all canadians are dumb. They have never suffered in their lives so don't understand other's difficulty. One who is enjoying can't understand that.
AN EMPTY STOMACH SEES A MOON AS A ROTI IN THE SKY.
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| buddu |
Posted
on 15-Nov-03 06:26 AM
Hey Mr. Ghamandi... Sorry for your experience. But there are good things as well. You are in such a beautiful country, green all around, can meet and talk to people from all around the world, go to variety of restaurants, excellent medical facility, free schooling for your kids, monthly benefit for your kids, good public transport. One has to pay something for getting something, don't you think so? Even bhariyas ( Warehouse person ) or janitors ( Chyames ) have a car. Have you ever seen such in Nepal ? As for work, I agree with you and everyone else in CANADA too that getting a job is very very difficult if you don't know someone and can be compared to winning a lottery if you get one without a reference. THE POLITIANS ARE THE WORST PEOPLE EVERYWHERE - JUST KEEP ON BRAGGING ABOUT THIS AND THAT WHILE IN THE TV 90% OF THE NEWS EVERYDAY IS ABOUT KILLINGS, MISSING, CARTHEFT, INDOOR MARIJUANA GROWING, ROBBERY, STABBING AND .... BUT WHO BOTHERS ?
ONE CAN SIMPLY GUESS WHY CRIMES ARE INCREASING EVERYDAY ? BUT WHO CARES - POLITICIANS HAVE THEIR POCKETS FULL, OTHERS ARE BUSY KEEPING THEIR JOBS BECAUSE ONCE THEY LOSE ONE THEY'LL LAND IN HELL, OTHERS, LOOKING FOR ONE ALL THE TIME. THAT'S SO EVERYWHERE ... SO DON'T WORRY.
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| jaya_nepal |
Posted
on 15-Nov-03 08:53 AM
Well if are an undergraduate or graduate student from a well-credited university, its not too tough to get a job in Canada. Many companies are their branch in Canada. Its not always tough to get job. If you deserve one - you'll get one.
jaya_nepal
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| OZ Guy |
Posted
on 15-Nov-03 05:09 PM
I guess it is very hard indeed if you do not have a local degree and a lot of experience to start with. I am not sure how it is like in Canada. I think the main reason there is more employment in Canada is becasue the immigration is not that rigourous. Australia probably brings about half of the number of immigrants compared to Canada every year. Getting a job here is pretty tought too, but statistics show about 90% of skilled immigration are within the work force within a year. And for the people having local degree (first degree) and very young, it becomes even easier.
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| Golkhadi |
Posted
on 15-Nov-03 05:27 PM
First degree in australian helps a lot, but the new migrant with overseas qualification in Australia doesnt help at all.
As u said 90% of the skilled migration are within work force, but doesnt say that they are in their own feild, lot of them are driving taxis. May be they count them as a work force here in Australia.
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| OZ Guy |
Posted
on 15-Nov-03 06:42 PM
That's the information I extracted from the immigration webpage.
I do not agree totally with you regarding overseas qualification not helping AT ALL. I would say they prefer people with local first degree ( if not, then people with foreign first degree but local PG degree). I also know lot of peope who have foreign first degree with a good job. Also I know many people with local degree, but into cleaning business. It's all upto you how you go about your career and professional development.
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| OZ Guy |
Posted
on 15-Nov-03 06:43 PM
That's the information I extracted from the immigration webpage.
I do not agree totally with you regarding overseas qualification not helping AT ALL. I would say they prefer people with local first degree ( if not, then people with foreign first degree but local PG degree). I also know lot of peope who have foreign first degree with a good job. Also I know many people with local degree, but into cleaning business. It's all upto you how you go about your career and professional development.
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| Golkhadi |
Posted
on 15-Nov-03 06:56 PM
I totally agree with you.
Having local degree and working as a cleaner. Specially people we did cookery and got PR also many of the IT graduates , i dont know why they are not trying to find a better job. I dont think its a market thats is down at the moment but they are rather interested to get a cleaning contracts and work on it.
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| MikeVickQB#7 |
Posted
on 15-Nov-03 10:55 PM
SINCE I GRADUATED WITH A FINANCE DEGREE, I HAVE BEEN DOING PAYROLL FOR THIS SMALL SIZE COMPANY IN NORTHEAST ALABAMA (NO IT IS NOT WHERE UNVERSITY OF ALABAMA IS..YOU FOOTBALL MORON..SO DO NOT ROLL TIDE..BY THE WAYI AM AN AUBURN TIGERS FAN). I DO NOT WANT TO GO BACK TO NEPAL CUZ I LIKE BEING HERE(KINA DHATNE)..BUT I SURELY WANT TO VENTURE OUT UP THERE IN CANADA...DARN ..IT'S VERY COLD OUT THERE ...
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| learner |
Posted
on 16-Nov-03 06:27 AM
HI, I'M BACK AGAIN. MY INTENTION IS TO MAKE EVERY NEPALI BROTHERS AND SISTERS AWARE OF THE SITUATION IN CANADA ( SPECIALLY WHO ARE WELL-EDUCATED ) JUST DON'T COME HERE WITH GREAT EXPECTATIONS. PREPARE YOURSELF FOR THE WORST - IMMIGRANTS ARE DISTINCTLY POOR AND HAVE MISERABLE LIFE. EVEN A CARDIOLOGIST REMARKED, " YOU ARE AN IMMIGRANT THEN STRESS IS THE CAUSE OF YOUR HIGH CHOLESTROL, SO SIMPLE WAS THE ANSWER."
AS FOR THE LOCAL DEGREES, I HAVE ALREADY ONE CERTIFICATE LEVEL AND NEXT A DIPLOMA, IN ADDITION TO UNFORTUNATE MASTERS DEGREE FROM UK WHICH BROUGHT ME HERE. BUT I BECAME A JOKER TO ACQUIRE THEM TOO - IN THE AD. ONE NEED AT LEAST TWO YEARS OF CANADIAN EXPERIENCE. I COMPLAINED ABOUT IT AND ONLY ANSWER WAS TO VOLUNTEER. THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND ME - I HAVE FINISHED ALL MY MONEY WHICH I BROUGHT, MY LIFE-TIME SAVINGS AND MONEY SELLING MY PROPERTY IN NEPAL. NOW TO VOLUNTEER FOR NEXT TWO YEARS? AGAIN ONE CAN'T BELIEVE ME, IF YOU CAN FIND A PLACE TO VOLUNTEER, YOU ARE MOST LUCKY AS THOUSANDS WAITING EVEN FOR THAT.
I MET THOUSANDS OF WELL-EDUCATED WHO SAY THEY MADE A GRAVE MISTAKE TO COME HERE. THE BEST JOB A WELL-EDUCATED GUY CAN DO IS SECURITY JOBS, WORKING NIGHT JOBS ( BUT DON'T EXPECT TO GET ONE VERY FAST AND PAID MORE THAN DAY JOBS ) IF YOU ARE LUCKY, YOU'LL GET A DAY JOB, STANDING AT THE BANK'S DOOR OPENING THE DOOR FOR CUSTOMERS.
UNLESS YOU ARE A GENIUS, BUT WHY A GENIUS FELLOW WILL COME HERE INSTEAD OF GOING TO STATES WHERE MOST CANADIANS TRY TO GO. I READ MYSELF AN ARTICLE IN THE LOCAL NEWSPAPER, ABOUT A SCIENTIST FROM ONE OF THE BEST UNIVERSITY OF CANADA WHO WAS INSTANTLY ABSORBED THERE WHILE IN CANADA HE FACED SHORTAGE OF FUNDS FOR RESEARCH. EVEN CANADIANS I MET, WORKING IN THERE SAID "NO WAY, GOING BACK HOME TO WORK."
FINALLY, I ADVICE BROTHERS AND SISTERS TO CONSIDER ONLY IF "
YOU ALREADY HAVE GOT A JOB,
YOU ARE PREPARED FOR THE WORST - MIND YOU, THERE ARE NO JOBS HERE.
YOU KNOW THAT YOUR FOREIGN DEGREES ARE SHIT HERE
YOU KNOW 5000 FOREIGN EDUCATED DOCTORS ARE WORKING MENIAL JOBS BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO AGAIN ACQUIRE FOUR OR FIVE YEARS TRAINING AND YOU'LL NOTICE FROM THE IMMIGRATION WEBSITE THAT DOCTORS HAVE LESS POINTS NOW
YOU KNOW THAT JOBS DON'T GROW ON TREES LIKE FOOLS POLITICIANS THINK.
YOU KNOW EVERY YEAR NEARLY 300,000 NEW IMMIGRANTS COME HERE AND SO LIFE IS GETTING MORE AND MORE DIFFICULT.
YOU ARE ALREADY A MILLIONAIRE AND WANT TO FINISH ENJOYING,
YOU KNOW THAT LOWEST PAID JOBS ARE THE MOST DIFFICULT ONE,
YOU CAN WORK LIKE A DOG - ANYTIME ANY TYPE,
YOU HAVE NO SELF-RESPECT, NO PRIDE,
YOU CAN BE TURNED INTO A SLAVE,
YOU DON'T CARE FOR YOUR OWN HEALTH,
YOU DON'T VALUE FREEDOM ( HAPPINESS )
YOU COME AS A REFUGEE,
YOU WANT GOOD EDUCATION FOR YOUR KIDS AND THINK THEIR FUTURE WILL BE BETTER. BUT FUTURE IS UNCERTAIN, YOU KNOW.
YOU HAVE SOMEONE WHO GUARANTEES WORK FOR YOU.
YOU ALREADY KNOW THAT CANADA WANTS TO GROW RICHER BY EXTRACTING APPLICATION FEES (500 DOLLARS) LANDING FEE ( 975 DOLLARS ) FOR EACH ADULT.
YOU ALREADY KNOW THAT CANADA WANTS TO GROW RICHER BY TAXES PAID BY PEOPLE WHO WORK AT NIGHTS ( MOSTLY IMMIGRANTS )
YOU DON'T WANT TO GO BACK TO NEPAL AFTER DRIVEN OUT FROM STATES
YOU KNOW THAT THE LIFE OF IMMIGRANTS IN CANADA IS MISERABLE,
FINALLY, YOUR LIFE IS YOURS AND YOU HAVE TO DECIDE YOURSELF. I AM JUST A GOOD FRIEND OF YOURS WHO WANT TO SHAKE YOU FROM THE DEEP SLEEP WITH BEAUTIFUL DREAMS OF LIFE HERE. TAKE CARE! BYE...
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| Learner |
Posted
on 16-Nov-03 06:42 AM
HI, JAYA_NEPAL...
The assessment points have been reduced from 75 to 67 since September 2003.
YOU ARE RIGHT ABOUT THE POINTS. THAT IS THE PROOF THAT THE POLITICIANS IN CANADA WANT TO PROMOTE SLAVERY. THERE ARE NO JOBS HERE AND STILL WANT TO INCREASE IMMIGRANTS' NUMBER, WHY?
THOSE DUMB POLITICIANS DON'T ANSWER AT ALL. I AM SO FED UP THIS PLACE THAT I AM PREPARED FOR ANYTHING, EVEN MY LIFE YOU WON'T BELIEVE. THEY ARE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF POOR COUNTRIES WHERE THERE ARE SHORTAGE OF DOCTORS, EVEN A BASIC HEALTH. JUST READ THE FOLLOWING NEWS...IN THE NEXT POST.
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| Learner |
Posted
on 16-Nov-03 06:57 AM
By KESHAB POUDEL
Jamuna Rai,17, a resident of Bhojpur district, 400 miles of east of capital Kathmandu, died a few hours after delivering a baby boy. Rai was declared dead from over bleeding at the local health post. Had Rai been attended by trained medical staff, she would have survived.
Jamuna is not the only mother to die because of simple medical complications occurring in the post natal period. Every two hours, a Nepalese woman, usually young, dies while giving birth to a child. Maternal mortality in this landlocked Himalayan Kingdom is one of the highest in the world.
“Though Nepal has strengthened and expanded family planning services, the inequality in services between urban and rural areas is glaring. It is painful to note that even today over 90 percent of deliveries take place at home, trained health workers assist only 13 percent of deliveries and more than 67 percent of maternal deaths occur at home. Poverty, illiteracy, ignorance and to some extent cultural practices have added difficulties to the problem. In recent years, the terror and trauma created by the violent and destructive acts of the Maoists have further aggravated this situation,†said prime minister Surya Bahadur Thapa.
NOW ALL NEPALI BROTHERS AND SISTERS! PLEASE REPLY ME...
THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF FOREIGN DOCTORS WHO CAME HERE FOR BETTER FUTURE BUT AREN'T ALLOWED TO PRACTISE. NOW THEY ARE WORKING MENIAL JOBS. I ALWAYS WONDER, WHY THEY WERE SELECTED IN THE FIRST PLACE WHEN THEY AREN'T ALLOWED TO PRACTICE? I MET A MAN WHO IS MOUSE PREVENTION TECHNICIAN, CAME TO MY PLACE TO CHECK, WAS A SURGEON IN CHINA. THIS IS THE SITUATION. THEY NEED TRAINING TO ABSORB, I UNDERSTAND THAT. FOUR OR FIVE YEARS TRAINING! THAT COSTS HUGE FEE WHICH ONE CAN'T AFFORD AT ALL. FUN IS HERE - THE GOVT. WON'T TRAIN THEM. THOUSANDS OF DOCTORS FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD ARE SITTING EITHER IDLE OR DOING MENIAL JOBS. NOW ANSWER ME...ISN'T THAT A CRIME TOWARDS HUMANITY ?
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| buddu |
Posted
on 16-Nov-03 07:41 AM
Buddu's buddi says
Till there is poor, there is rich.
Till there is hate, there is love.
Till there is day, there is night.
Till there is good, there is bad.
Till there is EGO, there is YOU.
Till there are poor countries, there exists EGO of rich nations.
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| laatamora |
Posted
on 17-Nov-03 10:42 AM
Namaste ! Saathi.pasha,
Canada is the most beautiful place to live as far as I am concerned. Because, I know my capability, I understand myself and my pasts were dreadful, this place is a wonderful place to live. I understand others too - it all depend upon person to person.
BUT IT IS TRUE THAT CANADA SOUNDS GREAT OUTSIDE CANADA ONLY. THE LIVES OF NEW IMMIGRANTS ARE VERY MISERABLE DUE TO UNEMPLOYMENT THE GOVT. IS TARGETTING TO BRING 300,000 A YEAR SO ALL NEPALESE IF POSSIBLE COME HERE. I AM SO HAPPY HERE BECAUSE I HAVE A CAR, NICE PLACE TO LIVE. BUT MIND YOU, I AM A JANITOR THOUGH I WAS A GOVT. FIRST CLASS IN NEPAL. LIFE IS TO EXPERIENCE, IN MY VIEW. SO DON'T GET TOO EXCITED THAT YOU GOT A GREEN CARD OF CANADA. IF YOU LOVE CAR YOU CAN COME HERE BECAUSE IN CANADA NUMBER OF CARS EQUIVALENTS ONE FOR TWO PERSONS AS STATISTICS SHOW.
Eveything has good and bad perspective. So, to become humble, this place is great. If you think you are something and consider yourself very smart, you can come here and have a test. In Kathmandu, you don't even have clean air to breathe, no water, no management of wastes even, power-cuts, no well-managed public transport and so many other things to criticize. But still my hearts go there all the time. You'll definitely miss your place, friends, foods, temples, and thousands of things.
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| sankaa |
Posted
on 17-Nov-03 11:48 AM
welll guys, i have never lived in canada so i can not say what is it like up there. however , after reading this thread i come to realize that they do not give you equal opportunities based on your qualification.
buttttt, do you think it is probably because of the lack of reconized Nepali education and expirence??Hold on , hold on.. no need to get mad, just being curious.. let me put it this way..
I came to this country when i finished my 12th grade in Nepal. I took lots of classes and spent five years to finish college. Every day i had to bust my balls to finish homeworks, after working. yes i was a janator, i was a parking ticket writer, i was a dishwasher once, i was a sandwich maker, i was a technical supporter, i was a programmer, i was a math tutor. Basically what i am tryint to say is, I have all those expirences becuase i worked my ass through college. Both job and course work helped me a lot to adopt to this society.
Now, let's see, if a guy who comes to U.S.A from Nepal, do you think he is going to have same kind of expirence like the guy who has gone to school here in the u.s.a. what's the benefit of working your ass off for tests, researches and practical studies over here in the usa, in compare to studying guess papers like 2 months before the tests and going to 3 yr college program.
I feel like they should give more priorities to college graduates from Canada or USa than from Nepal and India.
don't you guys think it is little wise for them to be skeptical when it comes to serious profession like medicine where lack of proper expirence and education can cost a person's life. Talking about first class govt. expirence in Nepal, do you think, if you are a first class govt official in Nepal you can do the same kind of job in Canada. do you think you are capable of doing that? i seriously doubt it..
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| south |
Posted
on 17-Nov-03 03:34 PM
sankaa bro, my experience is little bit different. I came here in usa after my undergraduate in nepal, mind you not 3 years but 4 years. nepal does have four year bachelor degree in engineering, agriculture scioences and forestry, and for medicine, architecture it takes five and half and five years respectively. nepal used to have 2 years bachelors degree and 2 years masters degree, so after doing masters it those students were eligible to do masters in country like us and canada where they have 4 yrs bacelors degree. if you talk about uk, australia, they have 3 year and 4 year program in undergrad as far as i know. and one more thing, there will be no guess paper available in nepal who goes to four years colleges. so dont just assume like that. i know there are lots of guess paper available for slc, isc, and 3 year program.but not in 4 year program. and you said like you worked very hard and study here and completed your course, well for me i wonder how much those people learn who work like 20-40 hrs a week and do study too, becuase while doing undergrad in nepal, we had to go to school 6 days out of 7 and our classes used to start from 10 and we used to have 7 periods so almost we used to be there till 5. and in this way we study 4 years. as far as you mentioned about the doubtness of nepali degree, i would say there are many students from nepal who come every year here in usa in scholorship and study well and do well like students from bnks, st xaviers and other schools in undergrad program and there are some in graduate program as well. i am doing masters here, and for me i did ntfind any difficulty here, i would say i find here easier and couple of my friends have similar experiences who are maintaining 4.0 gpa. you also mentioned about india, may be you dont know about the IITs, IIMs, AIMs product. yo ucan not generalize buddy. and well any one from any part of the world can perform similar job that he/she did earlier in any part of the world after some basic training, so its not necessary to have us or canadian degree. for me us degree is justt good to search job in us market that is it.
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| sankaa |
Posted
on 17-Nov-03 05:04 PM
South Bro, When i came to U.S in 1998 , there were very few colleges which offered 4 years under graduate program. There are still hundreds of Nepali graduates working as TAs , RAs who went to 3 or 2 yrs program in Nepal.
you said:
you said like you worked very hard and study here and completed your course, well for me i wonder how much those people learn who work like 20-40 hrs a week and do study too, becuase while doing undergrad in nepal, we had to go to school 6 days out of 7 and our classes used to start from 10 and we used to have 7 periods so almost we used to be there till 5.
bro, only we know much much we studied. You can never understand life of an Undergrad in the U.S. My friends and I used to have no time to eat, no time to sleep, we did not say day or night , yeah.. thats how we managed time..So, don't wonder .. if it's hard for you to understand a struggle of a poor undergrad from Nepal in the USA then joing 4 yrs college in a state college here in the U.S.A. I used to go to work at 6 in the morning -walking in the snow, work till 8, go to classes till 7 in the evening and work again till midnight , go home and study till 2 3,4,5.... in the morning...this is how we managed time...
you said: and in this way we study 4 years. as far as you mentioned about the doubtness of nepali degree, i would say there are many students from nepal who come every year here in usa in scholorship and study well and do well like students from bnks, st xaviers and other schools in undergrad program and there are some in graduate program as well. i am doing masters here, and for me i did ntfind any difficulty here, i would say i find here easier and couple of my friends have similar experiences who are maintaining 4.0 gpa.
I came to usa from nepal on scholorships too, i went to one of those goody goody schools y ou mentoned up there too, and i graduated with 3.9 gpa .... however, i had to work hard to pay for food and rent because i was not in full scholorships.I didn't not write fake letter begging for scholorships or did not come through some kid of set up network.. Not everyone can come in full scholorpshis... at this point I am poud to look back and see my struggle... I did it a hard way , but heyy i did it.. and lots of Nepali students in the USA are not from those goody goody schools that you have mentoned up there and still doing good.
Bro, i'm not the one who is generalizing but you are... you can never imagine how hard is it to go to school for us as an undergrad.. when you go to job market you will clearly see the difference... wait til then... good luck.
sankaa
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| jaya_nepal |
Posted
on 17-Nov-03 05:11 PM
Hello Learner and others who have said good and bad stuff about immigrating to Canada. I am just keeping that as an option. In US, its getting tough to get a job and I just want to stay here so that I can earn some money to pay back my loans, thats about it. I dont even want to stay in US or Canada, I just want to go to Nepal and spend my life there. Anyways.. thanx for your respose everyone.
jaya_nepal
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| south |
Posted
on 17-Nov-03 05:48 PM
so you agreed that there are still hundreds of nepalese who went to 2,3,4 yrs bachelors program and working as RAs and TAs, which shows they are qualified and which means their nepali degree is also good enough. may be you did nt try during 1998 but there were couple of schools in nepal who offered 4 yrs program by then. if you daily routine was like you mentioned above, i wonder how many hours you used to sleep, as you said study 2,3,4,5 in the morning and go to work at 6. as for us degree is concerned, i still believe that unless one goes to top tier school in usa i dont think he/she will get very good education here. there are hundreds of people who goes to community colleges and later transfer to some university. it is just like maintaning student status and trying to get us degree. well if one goes to top tier school then certainly gets good education.
so u think that foreign degree wont work in the job market huh, may be thats why lots of indians and other professional came here for high tech job in H1 visa.
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| Harkey |
Posted
on 17-Nov-03 06:23 PM
I totally agree with Sankaha as the universities in Nepal are unknown to dumb market here, so they will only run after name and undermine the Nepali degrees. But I agree with him only upto this point.
If Sankaha thinks only North American education should be deemed as qualified education, then why are around 30% of faculty positions in North American Universities full with once foreign professors who got their undergrad or grad degree from foreign universities? From where did Goddard got his degree to make US fly to the moon? From where did Einstein get his degree? From where CV Raman got his degree?
I appreciate Sankaha's toil and work to put up with the tuition fee and living costs while he was studying here in US. Such work is a humbling experience, an experience one should be proud of (standing on his own feet). But how can you match these experiences with the education and qualification in certain field? The work he did was for that instant, it doesn't have any impact on his future qualifications. So do you mean, a guy who studies from Budhanilkantha, gets degree from IIT and again comes to US to get PhD should be less qualified than a guy who got his PhD from US, just because of the fact that the guy worked as a janitor once and the guy who did schooling from Nepal didn't. The qualification lies on how one can represent his field of expertise, rather than what he did for his living in freshman and sophomore years.
And you talk about guess papers in Nepal. Well why should a student resort to guess papers if the whole book is open? And remember all students in Nepal don't use guess papers. Both systems have thier merits and demerits. We should consider both. I have seen lots of students who topped in their MS degree here in US (I am the one of them) just coming from Bachelor background from Nepal, India. That doesn't mean we are superior, but Nepal's education is not inferior either.
And Nepal's 3 yr Degree is far superior to Degree from Community College. And don't forget, its the same book we study here and back home. It's upto you, how much you can absorb.
Finally I think getting theoretical base and foundation from Nepal and implementing that knowledge in practical oriented study in here is the best combination.
There is no comparison between a guy who worked day and night to get a degree from US and a guy who did't work day and night to get a degree from Nepal; either can be better that another.
I hope Sankaha takes my comments in constructive manner. No offense!
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| OZ Guy |
Posted
on 17-Nov-03 08:22 PM
Harkey,
I totally agree with you. Going through the posting of sankaa I do understand and appreciate his struggle. However, because he has toiled so hard to achieve his degree does not make him superior by default in terms of degree recognition and job market. I do however realise a local degree which is directed to local job market is particularly preferble to employers. A local degree gives one a head start but it will not definately keep you on the lead if that is all you have left to boast about.
During the course of my PhD (with my undergrad degree from Nepal), I have had ample opportunities to teach and grade students. What I have found might surprise many of you. If you pick an average student and compare with an average student in Nepal you will find them very comparable. One noticeable difference was in presentation usually in form of speaking and presenting in a large mass. This might be due to the effect of cultural background and ofcourse fluency in English.
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| sankaa |
Posted
on 17-Nov-03 08:43 PM
ok. i'm sorry. you win- i lose.. my bad.. leave me alone.. i'm alrady having too much shit in my life...
take care
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| recon |
Posted
on 18-Nov-03 09:50 AM
America is best place to be....Lots of jobs
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| amorous |
Posted
on 18-Nov-03 11:32 AM
I think Canada is one of the better country in the Western hemisphere to live in. Yes, you will have a little harder time finding a job that you think that yo are qualified for but while you are looking for that job you don't have the stress of health care, which is a major stress in the US for a Nepali job seeker, especially for a person with a family.
Canada is a much more multicultural society than US ... much more tolerant. Believe me I have lived in Canada for 20 plus years. Canada would be my best place to live in the world aside from a Peaceful Nepal.
Caio!!
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