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| Biggy Small |
Posted
on 25-Nov-03 01:51 AM
Hello all Sjahites,
I am having this dilemma and hope you can help me resolve it? With the current situation of our country, I think the Maoists are to Nepal what Al-Queda is to the United States with the only difference being that unlike Al-Queda, Maoists are Nepali’s. I am not sure if all of you agree with me. But, MaKuNe meeting the Maoists leaders Is it Ethical? The Maoists have be creating havoc in our country and killing thousands of innocent Nepali’s and these leaders who are the voice of the people (supposedly) are secretly meeting them. How can they justify that when they fight elections? What will they tell the people when they get questioned about their acts? I am sure the obvious answer would be to bring peace. But is it justified to be even talking to Maoists? There have been many incidents like the one that recently happened to a young farmer.
Would the American citizens forgive any party that went and talked with Al-Queda etc to bring down Bush because they didn’t agree on the war on Afghanistan or Iraq?
I totally agree that the Maoists are Nepali’s but for what they have done to the innocent citizens, I think its not justifiable to talk to them. They should be punished for their acts.
I think of MaKuNe act was totally unethical and it scares me to imagine how far can this guy go to become a PM. Some of you might call him ambitious but I would call him dangerous. It is like sleeping with the enemy to become a PM.
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| lonely1 |
Posted
on 25-Nov-03 02:37 AM
No sane mind will compare Al Queda with the Maoists. The Maoists are a political force, asking for political rights of the people to be the head of state, among others, although their methods are not right. I don't agree with them, but it does not mean that I should call them anything unless I go out of my mind. Why say Madhav Nepal's meeting with the Maoist leaders was criminal or unethical? Didn't the palace people, the government people and even your uncle sam's representatives in Nepal meet the Maoist leaders only a few months ago? That may happen again, maybe tomorrow, maybe next year.
Also it is not the Maoists alone who are butchering the people; just think of the army killing school children in Doramba only a few weeks ago and similar other instances where the security forces killed many innocent civilians (mostly in fake encounters with fake Maoists). We should not forget that the Maoist violence is an offshoot of hundreds of years of misrule by the darbariyas, coruption of the past 14 years, the politics of exclusion and lack of social and economic justice in the country. The monarchy is as responsible for these problems as are the butcher Maoists and bhrast Congressis, if not more. We have examples of monarchies who have made sacrifices for the country and people. In Nepal the kings have done nothing except use the divide-and-rule method to gratify their greed for sura, sundari, and money--and, of course, power. Whatever good happened to the counry was only of secondary importance to them. Only the Rana oligarchs match the Shah kings and hence the rivalry for control and power in the history through today. We have been taught wrong history manufactured to please these power mongers and continue the same oudated and unjust model of government. The rhetoric that the king is the symbol of national unity and the like are all proved wrong, categorically now, if not before.
How come so many social, economic problems in the country and such a level of senseess violence in the nation if the king is the symbol of lord protector Bishnu or even a symbold of national unity? It's a bullshit! Wake up bros and sis.
Let's be more rational, Biggy Small.
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| lalubhai |
Posted
on 25-Nov-03 09:38 AM
well said lonely1!
Maoists can not be compared to Al Quida. The tactics used by the Maoists (could be) wrong but I think some sort of revolution was inevitable in our country. We just have too many flaws in our system. With only a small upper percentage benefitting, something was bound to happen in the country - it has raised it's head in the name of Maoists. Is it Good or Bad ..only future will tell. I hope Nepal Ama has given birth to a son that can steer us out into a brighter future. 9000+ brothers and sisters have perished. Hopefully their blood will contribute towards ours and our decendents prosperous future.
I am hopeful!
lalu
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| confused |
Posted
on 25-Nov-03 09:56 PM
I AGREE WITH lonely1 TOTALLY AND UNDOUBTLY>>.
if only they had(goverment) listened to those prosopal Maoist had offered before goin to People's war this wudnt have happened....they took it as a neggligence and now..country is in crisis...now only some kind of Dalai Lama or Nuclear Bomb..Sad but true..
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| jobs1 |
Posted
on 25-Nov-03 11:18 PM
We are so good at Blaming the past for the present conditions and totally forget what needs to be done for the future. Most of us are so myopic in our views. What the Rana's and Shah's and the others did to our country doesn't justify the act of what the maobadis are doing today? Its all bullshit that the Maobadis came up because of a political cause. The Maobadi leaders saw that they could take advantage of the situation of Nepal. They made people beleive that they were fighting for the people, but there acts have been totally opposite. What should we beleive more what they said in the beginning or what they have done from the beginning? I will go with the latter. Did the maoists have to begin a war and destroy infrastructure for a political cause. The Maoists are no different than the what we had in the past. We have bitched about about everyone ruling our country and I totally agree they have a done a bad job. After we got democracy everyone thought GPK would bring a change, well he screwed up, Madhav came he screwed up and than everyone followed since than and they screwed up. With what the Maoists are doing shows they have no character? If people like Baburam and Prachande rule the country than it will be worse than Rana's ruling Nepal. Every mistake you make or if you are anyhow connected to the person who made that mistake, u could be shot, hanged, slit or buried alive.
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| jaya_nepal |
Posted
on 25-Nov-03 11:34 PM
To me MaKuNe's act was not of a big shock. Because, earlier as well, MaKuNe signed a secret pact with the Maoists by which the Maoists woudl not attack the UML Cadres. I am not sure where this pact was signed, as far as I rem, this was done in Siliguri. Does he care only for his party cadres or his PM post..??
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| barad |
Posted
on 26-Nov-03 05:41 AM
no system is perfect,constutional monarchy and multipartry demcracy is not the problem here.Its these narrowminded,short sighted,power hungry leaders like makune,girija that are the main problem.No matter what system of governance we have,whether it is a republican setup or whatever,with leaders like these at the helm,some problem is bound to come up.We need to change the leaders,then think of changing the system.
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| EdHunter |
Posted
on 28-Nov-03 04:22 AM
seems like our political situation is too f***ed up. there should be an uprising of The People and the government should be overthrown or something like that anyway. that's what happend in Indonesia and the Phillipines. developing countries like nepal (though i dun really know whether Nepal's REALLY developing anot). and their present government seems to be doing beeter than the previous. F*** them Maoists too.. nothing better to do except kill,kill n kill and say they r doing it FOR The People. Full of sh** n crap. i mean if they wanna kill, kill the corrupted ones... (politicains, police, etc...) not The innnocent People of Nepal. anyway, they dun seem to be doing anything for the country so f*** them too.. The People need to unite and rise up against the government. There wil be bloodshed of The People but some sacrifices have to be made for the good of the nation. it;s not the government or the maoists or the monarchy that's gonna do any good for Nepal. if there is one thing that Nepal need, its the unity of it's own People. Power to the Pople as some call it.
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