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Posted
on 23-Jan-04 08:44 PM
I just wonder why all the educated people in Sajha (you ppl are educated coz u know at least how to use the internet) debating over that obnoxious crappy lump of flesh that sits on the throne of Nepal. Do you guys really believe it was Dipendra who did as was publicized? Isn't the Gyanendra & Sons Inc responsible for all those shit and also ruining the country in the name of reigning?
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| acharya |
Posted
on 23-Jan-04 08:47 PM
what are you, a retard?
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| Bob Marley |
Posted
on 24-Jan-04 02:21 AM
yep
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| hansy420 |
Posted
on 24-Jan-04 07:55 AM
and your point is....
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| yOuNgBlOoDz |
Posted
on 24-Jan-04 10:47 AM
what is there not to believe if it was dependra..?? he was no reincarnation of bhagwan bishnu.. he too share the same whore with paras. one bang in the ozzie.. other in da arse.. . he too was a crack addict.. so wuts the pblm.. acceptin paRAS AS UR KING.. .. n there ain't enuf evidence to say it was gyanendra n the inc. to destroy the family.... now don't come up with sum.. shitty indian movie story prove it
yb
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| putali7 |
Posted
on 24-Jan-04 12:22 PM
YB they are the main people who ruined our country. Gyanendra and Paras. They are the worst animals. They killed our kings and queens and many others. Dont' you get it? Look at Paras and his horrible reputation. They want to rule the world so that they would get good reputation. But they just get worse and worse. I hate them.....
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| Gerox |
Posted
on 24-Jan-04 12:26 PM
No comments on this topic. I really dont know the truth, and i dont want to guess any thing.
chill out;)
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| yOuNgBlOoDz |
Posted
on 24-Jan-04 12:40 PM
putali.. why don't ya take few minutes.. or hear bout dipendra's reputation.. GADHA DHOYERA GAI HUDINA>>
yb
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| KaleKrishna |
Posted
on 26-Jan-04 12:39 AM
A king and prince who could not save themselves had always dies for better in history, as they could have never been able to protect their subjects if their inteligence about conspiricy (if there was any) was so poor.
KK
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| mickthesick |
Posted
on 26-Jan-04 03:45 PM
.Username:
your topic is boring and ridiculous...accusations need proofs....put forward some proofs and we will consisder your argument
YB
i agree with you....i don't think we should have any problem accepting Paras as our future king...every person is good or bad at some phase of his life....he was bad ....but Paras deserves a chance to improve and now that he has a big responsibility of being a prince and future king....it's sure that he will improve..
Putali
as i said above..every person deserves a second chance and so does Paras...he has been better lately after being the prince...he has got himself to improvement...
don't accuse paraas and gyanendra of killing others...again where's the proof?? Accusing is not enough and i think it is also insensible....because the dead one's were the relatives of gyanendra and paras...don't you think they feel bad too for whatever happened??...and don't you think they feel even worse when they are accused??
finally to everyone:
Stop accusing if you can't prove it...and yeah..now that everything's over and it's time to move on...so let's give peace a chance
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| putali7 |
Posted
on 26-Jan-04 03:50 PM
I know Dipendra's reputation was also not that much good (It's History), but when we compare W/ Paras, he was far better (despite the controvercial royal masacred).
After all, NEPAL is SATI LE SARAPEKP DESH HO
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| putali7 |
Posted
on 26-Jan-04 03:51 PM
I mean "Except"
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| lonely1 |
Posted
on 26-Jan-04 03:55 PM
Yes, Putali.
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| as101 |
Posted
on 27-Jan-04 01:48 PM
def. yes
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| putali7 |
Posted
on 27-Jan-04 02:47 PM
Thank yOu:-))
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| KaLaNkIsThAn |
Posted
on 27-Jan-04 03:17 PM
Username,
I don't know who killed them, coz I ain't no psychic, but hey, didn't we want them to die back in 1990? Remember those days (let me refresh your memory -- remember Pampha devi and his paanimaruwa husband) when anyone of us would have killed them given a chance? 10 years later they are finally killed and now we are singing a different tune? Whoever is responsible, they fulfilled the wish we had some 14 years ago... simple as that.
And hey, if someone is capable of using Internet doesn't make 'em educated. Look at me :D
Je hosh youngbloodz le kura khaati garcha!!!
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| nathi_nala |
Posted
on 27-Jan-04 03:59 PM
Listen Guys,
NEITHER anyone should blame someone without any proof/evidence NOR should anyone try to criticize/prevent someone talking/writing (especially when someone has something to say).
Na chorLe machor hu bhancha, na Buddha (enlighten, never does wrong things) lai pagal bhanera pagal hunchha. SATYA KURA SATYA hunchha.
talk/write freely AND LET people talk/write FREELY.
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| username |
Posted
on 27-Jan-04 08:00 PM
Thaks guys who had commented on the matter. But I do have some reasons before I raised the question publicly. For the phrase "..internet.." I mean to say that Sajhaiites can think logically and rationally, so pls dont take it negatively, I meant to say that ppl using internet and post topics can analyze between black and white.
Let me raise a few questions then-
1. So far we have seen Gyanendra more clearly after he ascended the throne. What are the traits that best describe him? Well, he is very reciprocative, if not a jerk, in terms of what others say about him. Just look at the sponsored interviews he has been exhibiting. Whenever there has been a bit of political protest or something on the street that raises a few eyebrows, he has always monitored to hire some journalist and answer them. Just for some examples, interview given to Durga Nath Sharma of NTV, the essence of which was to answer the political(?) parties; another to Tirtha Koirala to Nepal of Kantipur Publications, in which he gave more clarifications; and the recent interview to Times( I am not sure whether this was deliberately arranged or not). Although giving interviews is just normal, he has always ventured to answer the questions on market and the timing of these clarifications seems rather abnormal in the sense he is just springing forward in times which are not matrure enough for a (constitutional) monarch. He can speak and he has every right to speak but that doesnot necessarily require that he SHOULD immediately speak.
Now how does this reciprocative nature of his relate to the massacre? Lets start with an example. What would you guys, esp, acharya and kalankisthan do if, for sake of an example, you see the body of a dead man right in front of you while you are walking somewhere and that nobody is around? My guess is that you would inform police or somebody, it is also likely that you would just escape from the scene as quickly for possible. But for a person who knows about the scientific process of investigations, he would not touch the body but call locals/ police etc and cooperate with the police afterewards. In no way one would try to destroy the dead body or bury it if he has not commited the sin. What did Gyanendra and company did after the massacres? I believe, for natural human instinct, and strongly believe, given his reciprocative nature, that if it were not Gyanendra & et al, they would have done post-mortem, viscera tests and even hired experts from the Scotland Yard and the FBI that would solidly prove his innocence. Instead, they went on imposing curfews and destroying the corpses. Not a single clear photograph of the dead ones has been taken in regards to crime investigations.
2. Could it be only a coincidence that all the family of Gyanendra remained and every other plausible claimant to the throne( even in case of disapproval of Gyanendra's ascence) are killed by a single dude Dipendra. Further, the dude has been said to shot himself, well as earlier said, no photograph exists of his wounds or sth. The only (pure) civilian to have him seen is Dr Devkota, the "Health Minister", who also speaks dubiously in hisown circle and chooses not to comment much in the public. The camouflage gear said to have been worn by Dipendra and exhibited at the "Bhata...tatata....tata..." stampede was neat, clean, ironed and looked almost brand new. No blood stains, no bullet holes, nothing...just new.
3. I wonder how many people remember the Rara lake helicopter accident. It was professed that while doing a turning manuoevre, the blades of the helicopter plunged into water. I am not aware if the "Puma" helicopter manufacturers have ever heard this but as a professional in the manufacturing of such things, I guarentee that such can never happen. The design blue prints never reach the manufacture line unless it is ascertained that such a stupid situation can't happen- either the blades are made short so that in any manuovre, they dont touch the ground or the chopper itself can never do that manuovre, it CAN NEVER HAPPEN and this is just what makes me believe that the waters are not clear in Gyanendra's nexus. Things are being hidden and Nepalese people are being fooled. Almost everybody knows the reality but people just want proofs.
Proofs dont rain from the sky. They come only after investigations. Has there been any sincere investigation in this case. As I already mentioned, if Gyanendra was innocent and we have seen he is kind of a jerk and responsive and reciprocative, he definitely would have done any possible criminal investigation kind of thing, including FBI and Scotland Yard etc and proven his innocence.
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| Zarathustra |
Posted
on 27-Jan-04 08:54 PM
First of all how stupid are we Nepalis. Most politicians give out empty promises and they still make it to important positions. And, this does not just happen once, it happens over and over. Maybe, its us: we think that they will actually change and keep the benifits of the people before their personal needs.
It does not end there, every time one of the political party is in power the other one protests about every little thing not letting the government function properly. All the leaders of different party are in a constant power struglle that keeps the country from functioning efficiently. Afterall, bandhs and chakkajams are not new to nepal. So how can we even think that the king resolving the parliament will be the end of that.
However, its not just the political parties the people are fooled by. The king, who holds a very respectable position in our community has done nothing whatsoever to improve the situation in the country. I remember when the king dissoved the parliament and fired the prime minister, rumors all over the town was that the king was actually going to do something good for the country this time. However, he too is afraid of taking little risks.
Maybe, that how we have been brainwashed all out lives. We constantly seek for a leader and when some one comes up we give him support even when we see that he is bogus.
Tha maoists on the other hand have their own principles. "win the hears and minds of the people" was one of the main principles of mao, however, in Nepal the maoists seem to have forgotten that. ................
oh...nevermind.....
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| aryashakti |
Posted
on 28-Jan-04 06:56 AM
Unvalidated blame is unacceptable. There is no proof of Gyanendra Maharaj's guilt. The real culprits are the Muslims. The shameful presence of the mosque outside the royal palace has compromised the safety of the royal family. By killing Birendra Maharaj they demonstated that they can attack anybody thus scaring non-Muslims into submission. It is part of the sinister plot outlined in the Koran of world subjugation under Islam. To this purpose they instigate anti-monarchist and anti_indian propoganda to divide the Hindus' strength; they fund and encourage Maoists to slaughter Hindus in Nepal and India (over 7000 Hindus have perished through Islamic-backed Maoist terrorism). Indeed the Peoples War Group was established in the United Kingdom by Mazhabi Muslims and communist fanatics specifically to obliterate Hindu power. Bangladeshi Muslims enter Nepal and breed like fleas planning to eventually outnumber the Nepali Hindus and to poison the nation with the disease of Islam. Facts prove the Muslims, and not Gyanendra Maharaj, are culpable. The anger should be rightly directed at these arrogant terrorists.
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| askme |
Posted
on 28-Jan-04 09:17 AM
If he not then who???
After all who is getting full benefit after KING death!!!!
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| askme |
Posted
on 28-Jan-04 09:35 AM
It all SUCKS "aryashakti", Do you know what is the percentage of Muslims in Nepal and their economical conditions. If you know all these then you will get the answer....
By the way....
Don't try to bring Indian culture in Nepal. Don't bring all that Gugrat killing and Indian Hindu fundamentalist of Babri Mosque case... Stay away from Nepal, At least Nepal is Hindu country but free from all that stupid RIOTS which happen so called most DEMOCRATIC country of the world.
INDIA SUCKS man!!! It is all because of India we are suffering, they don't leave in peace and don't let others (neighbour ) to live in piece. India is only coutry that have problem with Nepal, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, Pakistan and so on. I think they have also some share in Killing our KING!!!
F**CK Indians, specially BIHARI and those who want to Bring STUPIT indian culture in Nepal. I hope India divide into pieces like RUSSIA so every body will leave in piece!!!
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| timefly |
Posted
on 28-Jan-04 10:28 AM
Surprisingly! there are no evidence to support that the present royals are the KILLERS!
It might be coincidence that all these happenings points out to gyanens and son inc. but one thing for sure.. these royals are fu**ed up. The grandfather of Gyanen and Grandma of his wife.(queen) are brother and sister cause they bare the same family name RANA. It can be other than the effect of mutation like in Cheetah.. brother and sister mates to reproduce the offsprings eh! and for the better breed they often fight and kill within the group.....
RANA and SHAH family are too much interbreeded that sometime I wonder if they actaully can handle anythings!
well it's upto time to show what's next and it flies..
signing off
T!me Fly
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| aryashakti |
Posted
on 03-Feb-04 08:15 AM
Mr askme, DON'T make assumptions. How do you know if I am Indian? And how would you define Indian? Are the Nepali-speaking Indian nationals of Darjiling & Sikkim Indian or Nepali? I am aware that according to official statistics Muslims in Nepal are 5% of a 23,2 million population. But, illegal Muslim immigration from India and Bangladesh has pushed the real figure much higher. They are poor and a drain upon Nepal's resources. They are also connected to foreign jihadis who plot against Hinduism.
By the way, I will clarify some points:
1. There is neither Indian nor Nepali culture,only HINDU culture (Vedic Dharma).
2. I did not mention Gujrat or Ayodhya BUT YOU DID! Allow me to finish what YOU started. The Gujrati Muslims were fanatic goonda who hated and constantly mocked Hinduism. Tired of such insult, the Gujrati Hindus cleared their land of such foul rubbish and punished them for their sins. The mosque removal from the Ram Janamboomi marked the triumph of good over Islamic evil.
3. Why blame India for Nepal's problems when clearly the (Muslim-funded) Maoists are to blame. Certain Indian politicians have caused problems (eg Rajiv Gandhi & Chandra Shekhar) but these were Muslim-funded traitors who also made true Indians (Hindus) suffer. Chandra Shekhar destabilized the monarchy only to please the Muslims on whose vote bank he depended. Rajiv Gandhi imposed a trade embargo to disrupt Hindu unity; he treacherously ignored the sufferings of Hindus in Islamic Bangladesh and married a casteless Mleccha from Christendom.
4. Your comment "F**K Indians, specially BIHARI" is foolish. Bihar did not exist before 1947; there were kingdoms such as Darbhanga & Purnea in this region whose maharajas were either Nepali or part Nepali in origin. By insulting them, you insult Nepal.
5. You hope for division in India. Don't you know that the Muslims will capitolize on a divided India to intensify attacks in Nepal by Maoism or other nefarious activity. They will make Hindu fight Hindu and eventually all of south Asia will be Darul Islam. It will be populated by burqa-clad women who drink camel urine and bearded men who have either six wives or young men just like Mohammed.
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| mitra 2 |
Posted
on 03-Feb-04 12:04 PM
There were enough discussions in the past about the topic here and other boards. We have to draw our own conclusions as to what happened that night at the palace. Yes, it is hard to prove Gynendra's direct involvement in the incident because the evidences were destroyed and the commision's report is incomplete. So, it is understandable if people don't believe Gynendra designed the massacre. On the other hand, what we should understand is that we don't have any evidences to prove that the killings were carried out by Dipendra either. But no. We keep on blaming the dead man who might not have witnessed the massacre. A couple of things we should note:
Why Dipendra was carrying 4 different weapons? Because AK-47 wouldn't hold enough bullets? Or it is because he wanted to balance his unstable body with those weapons? Is it really practical to carry the load of weapons and still target victims like sharp shooters while being under influence of black stuff? Did the man who lost all his senses but just remembered to put on gloves so that he wouldn't be identified by his finger prints? Why did he care who was going to kill himself later? Let's say he did that because he wanted to be a clean reputed king of Nepal. Then how quickly he changed his mind and committed suicide -- in matter of no time.
It is,however, easier understand if we look at it from a different angle. It is absolutely necessary to have 4 shooters to kill 10 people in matter of minutes especially when they are running crazy. When the job is done, shooters would wipe out finger prints. Remember, Dipendra is wearing gloves. Ha!
Below is a 'cut & paste' posting from nepalhomepage about massacre timing (I don't know who posted it, but it has valid points):
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Check this timing and remember timing is very important in this case, because everything happened in no time.
7.30 - Crown Prince arrives
8.00 - "Crown Prince proceed to Mahendra-Manzil by his car and conveyed Queen Mother, with himself at the wheel". Unquote: How long did it take to get the queen mother. Let's say 10 minutes. It seems he is in OK condition till 8.10PM
8.12 PM- 8.13.14- Quote "Crown Prince talks to Devyani for 1min.14 sec".
Between 8.18 and 8.20 approx. - The crown prince was escorted to his bedroom. Quote" A little before HM the King arrived at the Tribhuvan Sadan (some l0-l2 minutes before), four individuals including HRH Prince Nirajan, HRH Prince Paras, Kumar Gorakh and Dr Rajeev saw HRH the Crown Prince swaying, unable to hold himself upright, and wondering if it was not the effect of the whisky, they took HRH the Crown Prince to his bed chamber inside Tribhuvan Sadan, it is learnt from eye witnesses". Unquote: It seems the crown prince's condition changed dramatically within a matter of 3 or 4 minutes. Incredible.
8.19 - 8.23.Debyani rana talked to the crown prince. Quote " Debyani Rana talked to HRH the Crown Prince for 4 minutes l4 seconds on mobile no. 98l02l5l3l from mobile no. 0l42305l at 8.l9. Unquote: The report says that the crown prince was escorted to his residence by four people between 8.18 and 8.20(that is 10-12 minutes prior to the arrival of His Majesty at the Tribhuvan Sadan at 8.30 PM). The report also says " while in the billiards room HRH the crown prince ordered ADC Gajendra Bohora by mobile phone at 8.19pm to fetch cigarettes". Everything happening at 8.19 PM ?.
8.19 - Crown Prince orders ADC to fetch cigarettes. Quote" While in the billiard room HRH the Crown Prince had ordered his ADC Gajendra Bohara by mobile phone at 8.l9 PM to fetch cigarettes... Cigarettes were entrusted to Paras Shah". Unquote: How long did it take to fetch cigarettes? Five Minutes, say. That is, it was brought not before 8.24 PM. Now, according to the report he was already escorted to his room by among others, Paras Shah before 8.20 PM. Most likely, Paras Shah escorted the crown prince to his residence, came back and got the cigarettes.
Did he give those to the Crown Prince? The report does not mention Paras Shah going twice to the crown prince's residence.
8.25PM - Quote "Devyani asks ADC urging him to have a look at bed chamber".
Unquote: Why the ADC did not go himself and got the servants to do the job.
What was he up to?
8.30- His Majesty arrives and wishes Queen Mother and Proceeds to the billiards room
8.39 - Crown Price talks to Devyani Rana to say goodnight. How long does it take a drunk man to get fully dressed and armed (mind you, he was struggling to get his shirts off) and walk back to the Billiards room. Say 15 minutes.
If so, he could not have reached the billiards room before 8.55PM.
Again, how long does it take to get the injured bodies to the cars from four different places and then to Chauni hospital. 30 minutes? If the king was pronounced dead at 9.15 PM at chauni hospital, he should have been shot before 8.45. I doubt the crown prince carried out the execution before 8.45, because the timing is does not seem realistic.
Why would Her Majesty and Prince Nirajan follow the Crown prince, when their husband or father was lying in the deathbed? Wouldn't it make more sense if they attended to His majesty rather than following the crown prince?
Ranabhat was seen carrying the guns. He should have reenacted the whole scene and find out for himself if it is possible to carry out such systematic murders under the influence of alcohol and drugs. That would have been a better proof than this report which is not even worth the paper it is
written on. Neither his words are worth the mouth he speaks from and vice versa.
For the road, let me tell you that it was not an indiscriminate killing as the reports says. If it were, then the gunman would not have discriminated against Paras Shah and those big mouths of Dr.shahi and Singh and all other filmi eyewitnesses. Had the Crown Prince been alive and declared the king in sound health, would this Ranabhat have enough guts to publish the same
report as he did. I can bet a million dollars, he wouldn't.
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Based on this, at least, we should not blame Dipendra for the killings. Let it remain a mystery instead.
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| Garibjanata |
Posted
on 04-Feb-04 09:09 AM
Would it make a difference to the lives of the common Nepali aka garibjanata if Birendra and Dipendra were alive today? NO, NO, NO.
SO WHY CRY OVER THESE DEAD VERMINS? IT WAS GOOD THAT THEY ANNIHILATED THEMSELVES.
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| nathi_nala |
Posted
on 10-Feb-04 08:36 PM
You are you, They are they. And so am I. Truth will reveal itself oneday, sooner or later. Why you guys trying to defend someone (unless you are THE person)? This is a case of King. If you think that there is something to speak, speak up. And, those who thinks there was nothing -- sleep; The King died (you know the date when).
THERE SHOULD BE no boundry to say/put what you think. And also, to revel the truth if you know anything.
KEEP IT :short, sweet, factual.
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