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Deuba, now what?

   OK, Sher B. Deuba is going to be the new 22-Jul-01 sparsha
     He won't be any better than Koirala. He 22-Jul-01 Anil
       I think Deuba is probably the right pers 22-Jul-01 Biswo
         Biswoji, I am afraid my thought differ 22-Jul-01 sparsha
           Sparshaji: I want to clarify the last 22-Jul-01 Biswo


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sparsha Posted on 22-Jul-01 08:28 AM

OK, Sher B. Deuba is going to be the new PM now. Will he be able to lead the nation towards peace and prosperity? will he be able to quash corruption and promote good governance? Will there be a cordial and constructive relation between opposition and the treasury? Will the Maoist problem come to an end? No! I personally beleive.

The biggest problem that we have in Nepal is the deteriorating economy. Everyday people are struggling to survive. These people need immidiate releif and that is not possible. People of a nation either need to be ready to sacrifice(for the nation) or they need to be relatively satisfied for the existence of peace. In Nepal all those poor people are sacrificing most of their basic needs not voluntarily but in compulsion. Such sacrifice in personal level generates frustration and often revolt. Prosperity may only need ten letters to register itself but requires trememdous resources to be materialized. Nepal severely lacks most of the infrastucture for prosperity. Peace and prosperity go hand in hand.
Nepal has many laws against corruption but who is enforcing those laws? Most of the laws are enforced only to punish those who have no "source force". CIAA and T. D. Chataut case is a fresh one. Corruption is as established and visible in Nepal as Sagarmatha. "Mantri bha bela ma nakhaye kahile khane ta? maile bhettaye mai khanthe" sounds like a valid point to the general people. Once a police ASI said, "I am neither ashamed nor hesitant to collect money in any way, after all my seniors are encouraging to get more and more money and I am not the only one who is doing this. I have to offer most of the collected sum to the senior officres. What I get is just a small proportion."
Good governance? How? From tomorrow Deuba will be busy securing his position as the PM. His first priority would be minimizing the threat to his chair than the good governance. Is he not the one who once appointed more than 40 members to his cabinet? why did he think he needs that many members in his cabinet?
Oppostion in Nepal has only one job to do. Oppose the ruling party. No matter what ruling party does, oppose that and present their own version. If we ask them about national interest, they go what nation interest? Opposition's biggest achivement would be to destablize the government rather than work together to build the nation.
Maoist problem? They only understand the force not talk. Every barberic action they do is justified in the name of revolution and any attempt to stop them is atrocity for them. Tomorrow even if BRB or prachanda ask their comrades to stop their movement, it will be naive in our part to think that the movement will die down. Most of those maoist comrades want to see themselves better off. They are not dying for BRB or prachanda or communism.

Deuba should outline how is he going to get the economy going in a fast tract and what he expects from all of us?

sparsha
Anil Posted on 22-Jul-01 09:41 AM

He won't be any better than Koirala. He is just another big name. They are passing around the PM chair. He was PM once before. What did he do then? You can be sure he won't last long with all the fighting that goes on in Nepali politics. They could have chosen a fresh, younger person. Now it is politics as usual.
Biswo Posted on 22-Jul-01 01:40 PM

I think Deuba is probably the right person for now. In these
difficult moments, we need a person who can communicate with
leftists, king and NC equally. Girija cabal was too much
partial and short sighted, and was detested in all sectors.

I think NC lawmakers did a good job by not selecting
confrontational leader as PM. It is sad that people like Khum
Bdr Khadka and Bal Bahadur KC may come again. But if they can
control themselves(big iff) this time, and work hard to gain
confidences of everybody, we may as well have a good future
lying ahead.

Btw, I think Deuba is the man who can both sit in dialogue with
Maoists without any ego, and ask army and the king effectively
to work with him in demoralizing Maoists spirit.

Now, I don't think a PM is the person to control corruption. I
think we need strong constitutional body (ies) to do so. Girija
wasn't the man who sent the executive directors of Lauda to jail,
we all know. Let's push for strong judicial and constitutional
organs, who will be responsible to people (parliament) only.
sparsha Posted on 22-Jul-01 02:18 PM

Biswoji,
I am afraid my thought differ on Deuba from yours. Maoist won't negotiate with anyone unless they think they have no other way out because what they want is out of the present constitution. The only other time they will agree on negotiation is when they think a fool is on the otherside of the table. Girija still holds many MPs in his camps. This resignation for the unity and democracy is nothing but a bitterness expressed in nice words. If Deuba succeds then that will be a miracle. To me Deuba is a slow and ineffective person. NC parliamentary members did a favor to themselves by electing Deuba. Now they got another person in the line to blame and get rid of him soon so other guys can have their chance as PM. Girija and other camps will try hard to prove how Deuba is failing. In a short while all we will hear is "Deuba's failure" from all other sides (including opposition) and complain of inadequate "support" from Deuba camp. He won't be able to deliver what we are expecting.
PM is the head of govt. He heads the executive body. He is the one who should be most loyal to the existing laws. It may not be the job of PM or anybody for that matter in a personal basis to eradicate corruption or establish good governance. But PM can't say '"well, alone I can't quash corruption or run good governance". CIAA has enough power at it's disposal but why it's not performing to it's par? Why it hurts PM or other ministers to entertain the rights of CIAA? How come TD Chataut is still at large? I personally think if GPK had wanted he could have presented Chataut to the appropriate authority. If a PM shows no respect for a constitutional body like CIAA then what's the use of creating more bodies like that or giving more powers to those bodies?
People are already busy planning how to drag Deuba down. He is no iron man to prove his ability (from what I have seen before) . Let's see how many months he can hang on.
sparsha
Biswo Posted on 22-Jul-01 02:57 PM

Sparshaji:

I want to clarify the last paragraph of my last response. I think
that while PM's integrity and willingness to extirpate corruption
can be major boost for anti-corruption drive, Nepal in her present
state may benefit from not hoping so from its leaders, and will
benefit from reposing faith on constitutional bodies like CIAA.

If we give our constitutional and judicial bodies enough rights,
we may not have to look at ministers and PMs for the job of
good governance. These people will be forced not to be corrupt.

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Also, I don't want to guess about Maoists. I have seen a lot of
Maoists coming to dialogue table and consenting to reconciliation
process in ohter countries.It is naive for us to think that army
will be unused forever. All these 'not killing fellow Nepali
people' is just a propaganda.Army is restrained, but army has
killed fellow Nepalese in the past also.Army was used against NC
armed rebellion after 2017 also. Army helicopters were used to nab
Jhapa Kaanda's murderers.

So what is stopping the use of army? I think lack of cooperation
among opposition and ruling party and probably the king.Army
didn't suffer from the lack of credentials from its own populace
when it went to apprehend criminals in Jhapa. Army had reason
to fight against Nepali Congress rebels because they were waging
war against Nepal from foreign land. This time, Maoists are
holed up in their bastion, and army is naturally restrained.

So I think from that perspective,Deuba can be useful to gain that
cooperation from all sectors, though it is too soon to say so.

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Army brass is also a corrupt one, but was miffed when 'more
corrupt' Govinda Raj Joshi lectured them after Dunai incidence.
We all know that an army generals or even leutinents get helper
and batmans from army batallion for their personal use. Joining
the army is probably more difficult than joining civil service if
you don't have your relatives in higher positions. The good thing
about army is they get budget from the government, and there is
a limit to which they can be corrupt in Nepal.A few army generals
are even said to be taking money to send the jawaans to lucrative
missions of UN.

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It is likely that Sher Bahadur Deuba can sit in dialogue with
the Maoists. Dialogues are not just for concluding the rebellion.
Dialogues can be used to lure the wavering Maoists.(Now even if
some Maoists want to surrender, where is any clue for them from
government? I don't think that any organization can hold their
members so tightly that no exits are desired by the members?)
Demands get changed once the process of dialogues starts. In
India, there used to be a armed-rebellion party, CPI(ML) led
by Vinod Mishra. Used to operate around Bihar and UP. As radical
as our Maoists. Nobody used to think that Vinod Mishra will give
up his arms. He did, and now competes for parliament.

People becomes tired after fighting a few years.If we can stop
the source of revenue for Maoists,the insurgency will be concluded
from the dialogue table, I think.I believe that the most
significant achievement will lie in our ability to save as more
civilian lives as possible before concluding this insurgency. I
think Maoists will come to dialogue table, and will surrender
after a few setbacks and a few years/months of dialogue.They
may as well be looking for saving their face before surrendering.
I mean we should explore all the avenues available.