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DWI | Posted
on 03-Feb-04 03:39 PM
Knicks vs Pacers rivalry renewed Tonight's an important game for us. Although our second best player, H20 (Allan Houston), won't be playing for us, it is going to be huge. The rivalry is renewed mostly because of Zeke and Isiah's corresponding position in these two teams. Besides, Isiah might be seeking revenge for getting fired by Bird man. MSG. 7:30. It's our town. ![]() |
Newtien | Posted
on 03-Feb-04 04:03 PM
Rivalry is between two equal teams. Nicks are not there yet.. May be next year. |
DWI | Posted
on 03-Feb-04 09:23 PM
Even though we won tonight, I don't wanna argue with your point Newtien. That is a correct statement. But the east leading Indiana ain't the best team around either. Their pillar players, Jermaine O'Neal and Ron Artest still have lotsa maturing to do. They can play good, but they still aren't the 'Winners.' May be, Knicks Killa-Reggie Miller can give them few more points. By the way, did anybody told you that Knicks are one center away from being the best team in NBA. It is a different story that it is very hard to get a legit center. |
nepaulishore | Posted
on 03-Feb-04 09:54 PM
DWI....Houston is not the best player on Knicks......Marbury is. |
Rusty | Posted
on 04-Feb-04 07:24 AM
It was a great victory for the knicks. The knicks have been showing the sign of play-offs this year. However, it is so disappointing to see that no one from the Knicks are selected for the all star game. Well, I guess they don't deserve it this year. |
DWI | Posted
on 04-Feb-04 09:30 AM
Nepaulishore, Please go through my reading one more time. Yeah, Rusty. I was disappointed Marbury wasn't selected from East. But he had tough competition though. I was most impressed by Marbury during his All Star appearance couple of years ago. Allan Iverson and Marbury together beat the whole West team. He sure is a winner, even though he doesn't have a great resume. |
AX | Posted
on 04-Feb-04 09:33 AM
Great game by Knicks. Two new addition Marbury and Penny played superb game. Hope to hear more good news from knicks. Van Horn dominated Artest. Knicks need same kinda effort from Van Horn everyday. watch out eastern conference teams, this KNICKS team is for real. They will be hosting the 1st round playoff game this year. am I too optimistic? |
Rusty | Posted
on 04-Feb-04 10:08 AM
Yeah Van Horn should give little more effort. He's a good player, but he just do not have any instinct... |
yOuNgBlOoDz | Posted
on 04-Feb-04 10:42 AM
wow.. knicks beat the pacers.. thats a good sign of makin to play off n bout marbury he sure is the best player knicks have after patrick.. but then.. 1 plus 1 makes 2 plus 1 makes 3...... its better if the knicks makes TEAM the best rather than just one individual.. yb |
yOuNgBlOoDz | Posted
on 11-Feb-04 09:22 PM
WHAT YA ALL SAY BOUT TONITE"S (wednesday) GAME YAO VS. SHAQ yb |
nepali13 | Posted
on 12-Feb-04 05:21 AM
Yao kicked Shaq fat ASSSSSSSS!!! it was a darn good game. |
Rusty | Posted
on 12-Feb-04 06:01 AM
I missed that game:( These days i don't get to watch these games; I am buried up with my own things. Damn. Knicks again lost :( What the hell is going on with the Knicks. Now it seems like any team can beat the knicks. But they will get to the playoffs:-) |
shirish | Posted
on 12-Feb-04 08:09 AM
It was good to see Shaq fouled out and Bryant not being able to do much. One of the worst games for LA lakers. Keep losing!! But I must say Lakers did pretty well during this 10 games on the road. |
yOuNgBlOoDz | Posted
on 12-Feb-04 09:53 AM
shirish.. the question was YAO VS. SHAQ .. it don't matter how well the team did or simply it don't even matter which team won.. what matters is.. how did these two.. the all time dominant.. n will-soon-be dominant centers performed.. yb ya rusty bro.. knicks need sum solid fwd.. or center who can give em.. atleast a double-double avrage.. yb |
dada | Posted
on 13-Feb-04 08:48 PM
MDE , Most Dominant Ever!! Shaq has 3 big rings n counting...enuff said |
nepaulishore | Posted
on 14-Feb-04 06:48 PM
I have to disagree with your assertion that Shaq is the most dominant ever...Have you ever heard of Wilt Chamberlain???!!!.....100 points in one game, 55 rebounds in another game, AVERAGED 50 points a game for an entire season....and to top it off he has slept with more than 20,000 women(according to him)......Shaq's best season average in scoring (29.7) and rebounding (13.2) are both below Wilt's CAREER AVERAGES....And Wilt won several NBA titles as well.....so although Shaq is undeniably the most dominant player of this era...The distinction of being the most dominant player ever rightfully belongs to Wilt Chamberlain. |
dada | Posted
on 14-Feb-04 09:55 PM
alrite dude, MDN, MOST DOMINANT NOW! |
dada | Posted
on 14-Feb-04 09:56 PM
I never saw wilt chamberlain play |
Rusty | Posted
on 20-Feb-04 01:33 PM
WHat do you guys think of the latest trade. Did Knicks do good job by trading Horn? Did Detroit are stronger now by adding another Wallace? |
dada | Posted
on 21-Feb-04 01:12 AM
Most Dominant Plater- SHAQ Most Dominant Team- LAKERS CASE CLOSED |
yOuNgBlOoDz | Posted
on 21-Feb-04 07:59 PM
YAO's STATS 1998-1999: Shanghai Sharks (1T): 25ppg, 15rpg 1999-2000: Shanghai Sharks (1T): 21.1ppg, 15rpg, 5.3bpg, 1.8apg, 2.4spg 2000: drafted by Tampa Bay ThunderDawgs (ABA,12rd(112)) 2000-2001: Shanghai Sharks (1T): Score-3(27.1), Reb-1(19.4), Blocks-1(5.5), Dunks-1 2001-2002: Shanghai Sharks (1T): 29.7ppg, 18.5rpg, 4.8bpg, 2.6apg, 1.7spg 2002: Drafted by Houston Rockets (NBA,1rd(1)) 2002-2003: Houston Rockets (NBA) |
DWI | Posted
on 21-Feb-04 09:19 PM
Rusty, to your question about latest Knicks trade. I am very unhappy about the trade. I was one of the few who liked KVH for Spreewell trade. Keith carried this time in numerous occasions. He was our scoring leader 15 times and rebounding leader 14 times. He would bury 3 when needed. Even when H20 wasn't in the floor, I would be satisfied with the fact that Van Horn is there. Tim Thomas is a streaky player. Isiah thinks he fits in our system, with Starbury running a fast offence and all. Bull. Tim can take over a game at times, but not as many times as Van Horn. I just hope, after H20 comes back, Tim gets used to this team and plays his role. Nazr was just a throw in. We also could have gotten Rasheed Wallace.Atlanta wanted to cut down salary and we had a legit player to do just that, Kurt Thomas (plus a throw in). Atlanta declined the trade saying they already have a good power forward. But as a GM, you should be able to negotiate a deal out of that weak point. Kurt could give them a legit scoring/rebounding presence. And if you decide to cut down the salary, his contract expires this season. I can't believe Isiah wasn't able to enjoy this deal. I hope Tim Thomas becomes a little more consistent and provides us with the intangibles. |
yOuNgBlOoDz | Posted
on 22-Feb-04 12:14 PM
how come no one mention bout PHILLY.................. well i thiink.. AI needs big time help in order to make play off this year.. they r serioulsy struggling big tyme.. big dawg is doing his best but.. they need some more help.. Keith van horn.. i think he was 1st round 2nd pick.. after TD.. i don't understand why do they always trade KVH.. like dwi broda say.. he's sorta alrounder.. he can nail 3 pointer.. n sum 16-18-20 ft. jumpers.. he can rebound.. i think its a big mistake isiah is doing.. i understand his motivations but KVH had proved that they needed him.. neways good luck to him n the knickers rusty broda.. detriot was one of the team to beat frm east.. though they r up n down this season.. but adding another wallece.. they have some chances to make finals.. if not then easter conferance finals.. wallece is a good player.. he can nail the ball in basket from any corner... basically he replaces the robison frm pistons. offensively n defensively.. too much going with lakers????????will they win the championship....... yb |
AX | Posted
on 22-Feb-04 12:31 PM
Knicks got worse traing van horn. He is a good 2nd scoring option on any team. Wish him the best with his new BUCKS team. YB les not worry Lakers. They have yet to beat quality opponents :) |
yOuNgBlOoDz | Posted
on 22-Feb-04 12:38 PM
AX bro.. ghiu dibba ma cha bhandai ma afai ta niskadaina ni :=) yb |
AX | Posted
on 23-Feb-04 07:51 AM
San Antonio Spurs beat the first-place Minnesota Timberwolves 94-92 on Sunday. time to give Spurs some respect around the league? |
Rusty | Posted
on 23-Feb-04 08:10 AM
AX, no matter what, this is not Spurs year. KG is MVP at any cost..This is all TWolves..or Lakers again. |
AX | Posted
on 23-Feb-04 08:26 AM
Rusty is adamant since 02 about the KG. is it really his year? les see.... still got 30 games.... he better perform to collect the hardware TD won last 2 years. TD got no all star calibers likes of Cassell and Spree in his team. He still performs every single day. Come playoff time, we will need to find KG on the floor :) Heard of a kid from ATL? he sounds a lock to overall #1 pick. It seems like Hawks wants to loose every game so that they can get this local kid. and what happened to sebastian (marbury's cousin) from Brooklyn? DWI may have insight about him ;) |
Rusty | Posted
on 23-Feb-04 08:43 AM
Well, a player won't be successful until he finds good hands. This year, KG got good teammates, Spre and Cassel. So, he will be MVP. Even in previous years, KG's stat was always better than TD, but he was failed to have that hardware because he couldn't creep up his team. This year, TWolves are better than Spurs, and KGs stats are better than TD as well...:) |
rayy | Posted
on 23-Feb-04 10:32 AM
guys, what do u think about the rocket's win in 3rd ot last night? How about YAO's peroformance? I believe rockets have chance to be in play off.Definitely, KG is the MVP for this year. |
yOuNgBlOoDz | Posted
on 23-Feb-04 01:54 PM
well,, m all da way with KG>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or may be TD :P.././ hehe well bout rockets, i didn't like the fact that. rockets had to go thru 3OT to win over hawks............. but a good thing.. they came with victory.. n yes the yao's perfomance was excellent.. he's got confident.. i like the last shot he took.. he was sandwiched by two defenders no foul call (well official made it even later not callin a foul commited by rockets) yet he came with a huge bucket.. 41 points.. 16 boards , 7 dimes n 2 blks.. n 15-21 shooting...... just about fillin all stats.. only way the rockets will berth to play off .. if they consistently feed yao with ball,, n steve be lil mature n take good decisions when needed.. n ofcourse.. cato contributes if not many then double digits in his scoring.. well i doubt bout lakers !!!! but its gonna be t-wolves or spurs back again.. if spurs get lost on the way.. then they do definitely need a major trade for upcomin season.. lets see since kobe's gonna be free agent next year.. popavich might eye on him.. yb |
AX | Posted
on 23-Feb-04 03:21 PM
2 blocks in 50 mins(?) for the tallest man in the league is a great achievement bravo |
DWI | Posted
on 23-Feb-04 05:01 PM
AX, I think we had talked about Sebastian Telfair (Marbury's Cousin) in one of the earlier posts. Last time I had heard of him was when he was at high school, has he joined the Louisville he was about to goto? The kid is good and like his cousin averages massive points and assists (somewhere in upper 25 and 7-8 assists). His only minus point is that he is just 6'0". But since he is a point guard and even Stephon is 6'2" only, that shouldn't be a big concern. That should make him top 10 pick, if not top 3. |
DWI | Posted
on 23-Feb-04 05:06 PM
Houston is a good Fundamental team. With Coach Van Gundy around, you can bet on getting a good performance in the first round of playoffs. If Steve Franchise and Yao continue their excellent tandem plays, they can be a force to beat. Mobley provides the necessary push. Bad news? Well, they are in a wrong conference. With current standing, they have to play either Kings, Spurs or Timberwolves and they don't have enough to sustain any of these teams (provided Kings get their king back). |
DWI | Posted
on 23-Feb-04 05:09 PM
Spurs is the most fundamentally sound team. It takes more than individual player to beat this team. With Parker and Ginobili as his missionaries, Big Fundamental can lead this team again to the conference finals for sure. Teams to give them trouble: Lakers, T'wolves and Kings. |
oys_chill | Posted
on 23-Feb-04 05:11 PM
AX bro, SA le brainwash garya jasto cha :). When in Rome, do as the romans do bhanchan ;)..pheri nikalla hoi new city baata :P. As for lakers, they are getting back. I was able to witness the most satisfying game of the season the other day.........The showtime is almost back..jus sit back and enjoy. As for MVP, it has to be KG.......he's proven both in the paper and court, his greatness and is simply better in all categories than TD. As for Kobe going anywhere else..........YB, i tell you one thing. he's either going to jail, or staying where he belongs. LA LAKERS :). Les hope for the latter (fingers crossed)! |
yOuNgBlOoDz | Posted
on 23-Feb-04 08:40 PM
finally.... oys.. we in da same field......... let just wish for his best dude.. AX bro.. its very easy to criticize.. sumtime player don't even have a block in 50 mins.. YES ITS A BRAVOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO... n damn bro.. u just saw 2 blocks.. didn't ya saw 41 pts.. 16 boards.. 7 dimes... 15-21 shootin.... well dats what happens when ur against sumone.. u just see their baad part.. but big yao knows how to survive thru bad parts :=).. chill bro.. ur shaq is still the dominant force..until my big man.. knows the hollywood act :=).. still new to this system .. damn him.. still nice coz of the asian culture :-).. yb |
senor | Posted
on 24-Feb-04 02:32 AM
Lakers are beginning to kick ass ...as they should. Just wait till lal mohan gets in the line up. Come playoffs, Shaq and gang are gonna be invincible. KG or TD can fight for the MVP, but the Lakers will take home the big trophy....Shaq attack baby! |
k_loaded | Posted
on 24-Feb-04 12:22 PM
KG4MVP!!!.........................this guy deserve it all. He is the most efficient player ever to play the game. His focus and determination are unmatched. Shaq and kobe back to old scene chasing old destination. As for spurs, they will make intereting first round and make a exit in second. T'wolves, Lakers and kings? I put my money on Lakers....as always. |
aakash | Posted
on 24-Feb-04 12:53 PM
U r right K LOADED>..... Lakers r always the team to beat..no matter waht! KG should be the MVP this year , no doubt bout it! lakers r gettin thier grove back....as long as shaq n kobe stay together n show thier thing, lakers will be fine!!! i m cheering for the knicks too...hope they make it to the playoffs.... |
DWI | Posted
on 24-Feb-04 03:31 PM
Just because you are cheering for the Knicks, Aakash, I am committing my loyalty to the T'wolves. Kidding, but seriously, I think T'wolves are the team to beat. Not because of the addition of Spree and Cassel, return of Wally Czerbiak alone, but mostly because of the would be MVP Kevin Garnett. If the coach puts his cool and makes good call while stressing on defense, I can see them winning the championship. I am not as sure as I was with the Spurs last year, but I like their game. They are the team made to win the final 7th game. |
dada | Posted
on 24-Feb-04 05:21 PM
DWI, I think you forgot about the lakers |
DWI | Posted
on 24-Feb-04 07:28 PM
Dada, only when Lakers are on top of their health and Zen master focuses on Defense in post season. I think they will goto the Western Conference final along with T'wolves. Knicks playing Kings tonight. The recent move should benefit us against the Western Conference team. I hope to have a good game tonight. Few minutes in first quarter, we're looking good. Lenny is putting a good match up with big front court. |
dada | Posted
on 24-Feb-04 11:00 PM
DWI, It didn't work out did it? Knicks don't have a go-to-guy. Like a kobe or a shaq or payton or lal mohan..... needs major rebuilding..major |
DWI | Posted
on 25-Feb-04 05:39 AM
Actually, I liked the way we played last night. If we had the same fire in our previous 2 games,we would have won them both. We were neck to nect till the beginning of the 4th. Damn Kings, always rally with 10-12 runs. Tim Thomas had 33 points and Mohammad gave a great inside presence. Knicks were playing almost inside the paint in their whole first quarter, an area Knicks were bad on (They are perimeter team). We just didn't have enough for the Kings on the 4th quarter. Kings were missing 3 of their good players and Knicks was missing one of our second best player. Rebuilding doesn't always work. Chicago has been on that mission since Jordan left the town. Clippersare always rebuilding. The only team coming out of a great rebuilding project lately was the 1999 Spurs. A big city team like Knicks cannot afford rebuilding. We loose a lot of fan base and owners aren't very patient with all the expense. |
nepali13 | Posted
on 25-Feb-04 06:05 AM
I think KG is the undisputed MVP of this season, so far!!!! And I hope T-Wolves would carry the same momentum going forward... T-Wolves is the most balance team in the league... They do not have to rely on one guy to carry the load... Out of three monsters one ofum would rise and take care the business... It's always great to know that if one is struggling on the court, another one would pick from that point and on. And that's the secret success recipe of T-Wolves... I can't say much about the east but NETS finally showing some fire power... No kidding, Pacers and NETS match will be fun to watch. And I am rooting for the Lakers vs. T-Wolves in the conference final. And I am all the way with T-Wolves and THE MAN KG. |
DWI | Posted
on 25-Feb-04 06:21 AM
Well, the point you made about one monster rising for another, in case of T'wolves..Nepali13; there are other teams with more power distribution. Look at Lakers, they have 4 supreme players, 3 of them totally dominating. Kings are loaded with scorers, more than T'wolves. Even in East we have similar teams like Nets, Pistons, Pacers. What might made the difference is Kevin Garnet and his team's experience of playing in the playoff (without a series win). It is about time. They have a great TEST game tonight vs New Jersey. If they can beat NJ, then T'wolves are a legit threat in the playoff, which I do believe they are, for the following reason: 1. Nets are a fast paced team. No team in last 14 tries have been able to slow them down to play half court challenge. If T'wolves can slow their pace down, that means they are fundamentally sound as team and under a good vision of the coach. 2. Nets are the team to beat in the final and they are in their best games right now. |
nepali13 | Posted
on 26-Feb-04 10:25 AM
Well!! Again, T-Wolves proved that they can fight against the fast paced team. And even if they struggle offensively as they did in the first half of the last night game, still they can tight in the defensive end and make other team to pay the price. Last night was not the great game in prospective of both teams however T-Wolves showed up with the true color of its team high spirit and closed the deal. Sam was on the street cloth and Sprewell was having a one hell of night but supporting cast rised upon the time and let its game speak about the depth of the team. Still I would like to see more inside posting from KG and Candy. And no question that Candy needs to improve his free throws. After all they can hack the Candy when game on the line. Nice win and congratulation to T-Wolves. KG 4 MVP. |
nepali_girl | Posted
on 04-Mar-04 08:12 PM
So good to c lakers' comeback!..thoroughly enjoyed lakers-rocket game last nite.....kobe's last second jumper was fab!. Go Lakers :) |
lizardking | Posted
on 04-Mar-04 08:55 PM
I think rockets did better...ming scored more than shaq-mack daddy. Lakers got so many superstars reloaded. For some reason i never liked lakers. I am the lizard king. |
Rusty | Posted
on 05-Mar-04 07:26 AM
But, Kings are also getting stronger after Weber and Miller's come back. Afterall, Weber is the key force to the Kings. When he's on the floor, he passes the ball, he takes rebounds, score points, and carry the team. Do not underestimate this team while Lakers are going in the disarry of "team work". The Lakers are pretty much messed up because of clashes and feud between team members.. |
yOuNgBlOoDz | Posted
on 05-Mar-04 12:21 PM
rusty bro.. exactly n that might keep them from championship.. coz.. they r trying more like an individual game.. if we look back when they won championship.. it was team game.. no body cared much bout scroing.. m talking bout fox, fisher, horry,,, they never scored in double figure.. they pass it to kobe n shaq.. n let em do their thing.. but now.. payton thinks.. he ain't just a point guard.. he can score.. kobe .. well he's a scoring machine.. shaq believes lakers going nowhere without him.. neways.. lets just wait for the playoff........... without a shadow of doubt.. KG for the MVP.. KINGS>. yes they rule the west.. webber's the divine force for kings.. n miller ofcourse is another solid addition for the rulers.. spurs n TD.. uh.. is it the year for them??? who else........ t'wolves............. one of the 4 options for champions... yb |
AX | Posted
on 05-Mar-04 12:37 PM
Lets' not discount Lakers yet. soon going to be all time scoring leader Mailman is joinin Batman and Robin (payton discounted :p) they would be tough team to beat. I would hate to see my fav team Spurs to be playing Lakers in 1st round. Spurs lack in Center position... TD being out for some games, KG seems to be the right choice for MVP. which teams would be ranked 1-4 in western conference? |
Rusty | Posted
on 05-Mar-04 01:23 PM
I don't know how many lakers fan are here.. I am not Lakers fan; but I would say that the Lakers can still repeat their titile if they play with the same mentality they played a couple of years ago. Lakers are big 0 (zero) in team work. Shaq can't do nothing without getting ball in his hand; Kobe is busy doing his trial; Gary Payton is not satisfied with his minutes and trying to opt out; mail man is trying to come back... There's been so many personality clashes between Shaq and Kobe, Payton and Kobe, Shaq... even though they act like they are playing together. Sometimes Kobe doesn't pass the ball, being a selfish player; sometimes he does triple double, challenging Payton and Shaq indirectly. He can take rebounds, he can pass the ball around... So many disarray and inconsistency is going on with the Lakers; however, Phill Jackson is good at integrating these people and play as a team.. Let's see what will happen to the Lakers in rest of the season. |
yOuNgBlOoDz | Posted
on 05-Mar-04 02:05 PM
AX bro.. one can score if he gets the ball :))... |
oys_chill | Posted
on 05-Mar-04 02:08 PM
1. Kings 2. Wolves 3. Lakers 4. Spurs It would be nice to see lakers beat spurs :)..i mean demolish them. |
AX | Posted
on 05-Mar-04 02:25 PM
Rusty, I feel the same way about Lakers. I am one of the Lakers hater. How can people ignore a team which has 4 great players? They have proven time and again that they can beat any team anywhere if they want to....... Rick Fox is back so will be Mailman and Grant. Devon George will be in ease playing as a backup. Fisher will be comfortable with his jumpers as players will be busy double teaming other players. Let’s just go by the nos. Starters can put following stat day in and out. Are there any other teams who can post this nos.? Shaq – 20 Kobe – 20 Malone – 15 Payton – 15 Rick Fox/George - 10 Saying that I still like Spurs chances, as TD being the man he is :) oys happy now? credit ta dinu nai paryo natra nikalla bhanne daar :p |
AX | Posted
on 05-Mar-04 02:27 PM
hmmmmmm Spurs ranked #4, I like that. That means they will be playing MAVS in the first round. Spurs can handle them easily ;) |
rayy | Posted
on 06-Mar-04 05:59 AM
How about the houston, rockets? They beat the Twolves last night. I think if they play the way they are playing recently; they have also chance to be on the top. I think Yao is the best center or going to be the best center in the league. What do u think guys? |
realist | Posted
on 06-Mar-04 10:08 AM
Man i am sick of hearing you all babble bout how lakers and t-wolves and san antonio dallas and shit. I told yo all from the beginning look at my previous postings it's kings year. Lakers now they lose kobe again. SanAntonio doesn't have as much fire power and the deeper bench as the kings now that brad miller is coming off the bench. Only Team I am worried about it is t-wolves thats the team that will give kings the most trouble. But anyways you can only count on casell and garnett on that team since sprewell is streaky most of the time. But he has more play off experience than anyone in that whole team. He has been to the finals. dallas they they are in a big funk except nowitzsky everyone is pretty much not consistent. Lakers have their own freakign problems. So basicall yfinals is already set. Westernconfrence-----------> Kings vs Minnesota victors kings Eastern Confrence----------> Indiana Vs Nets Victors don't really care. Finals KIngs Vs. Any eastern confrence team it wouldn't matter. NBA Champions KINGS |
yOuNgBlOoDz | Posted
on 06-Mar-04 10:38 AM
realist.. get real man............. don't assume.. no doubt.. kings r a good team.. but its nba.. nething can happen netime.. we have seen in nba.. those that rank less than 5.. had ended up with championship :).. it can be anybody's ballgame depending on how they perform at the playoffs yb n yes.. rayy... houston gonna go to playoff.. i won't say champions.. but next year they will be a team to beat.. :-).. yup YAO... YO>... YAO.. YO.... YO he is the best center :=) yb |
dada | Posted
on 06-Mar-04 08:44 PM
In playoffs, Kings become Queens....... |
yOuNgBlOoDz | Posted
on 08-Mar-04 08:35 AM
rockets vs mavs... wow what a perfomance by big yao.. he's proving that he is the next big thing.. 3 games straight of 27+ pts.. if he continues to finsh game like this.. than it would add another team in the list of "team to beat".. he was hot at first.. scored bout 14 pts i guess in 7 minutes of first quarter.. what can one expect more then that.. its good to see houston back in da game.. one thing yao needs to learn is how to rebound the ball.. esp the rebound out of his area... yb |
Rusty | Posted
on 08-Mar-04 01:52 PM
Phewwwww.. i dont wanna write anything here, but I must write something. Well, Lakers are still the team who can return to their dynasty. No matter what, they have capability to eliminate #1 team, coming from #8. To beat top seeds is not a big deal for them if Shaq plays the game with his best. From east, Indiana... and O'Neal could be the MVP if they keep winning like this..Also i have noticed that this years east teams are little more like west team because of the arrivals of the players like Wallace. Kings-- well they can easily go to second round of playoffs.. In fact, they have been doing well in the regular seasons for the past few years, but always failed to win the champianships... |
AX | Posted
on 08-Mar-04 02:27 PM
here's the western conference playoff scenraio 1. Kings vs nuggets ---- kings -------- kings 4. Lakers vs mavs ------ lakers --------- spurs 2. wolves vs rockets ----- rockets -------- spurs 3. spurs vs grizzlies ------ spurs what do you guys/gals think? |
yOuNgBlOoDz | Posted
on 08-Mar-04 02:37 PM
.. would be fun to see rockets going for second series... but would disappoint meh to see wolves out at first round.. hhmm u mind coming up with sumthing that will show both teams making second round or more :P:P:P yb |
Rusty | Posted
on 09-Mar-04 05:42 AM
Lakers- Shaq alone can not do anything. He needs a good help to win the title. I still think the Lakers will win the title again. Spurs- even if TD is healthy, they won't win the title. They will go to the second round but they won't win the final conference. Twolves- will pass the first round of the playoffs. And KG is MVP (90%) Mavs- time to fire Don Nelson, who never emphasizes on defense. Shame on you Mark Cuban. He just proved that "BUYING bunch of good players doesn't make a team unbeatable." Kings- when weren't they good teams? They have always been appearing as a team to beat the teams like the Lakers, but they cann't do nothing eventually. Pacers- very strong in the East. O'Neil has a chance to win the MVP award if they maintain their best record in NBA. However, they can't win the title. Pistons- now they got Raseed Wallace who can make this team more like western conference team. They got a good force now: Rip H, Billups, Wallace^2... |
Rusty | Posted
on 09-Mar-04 05:46 AM
This year there teams have chance to go to the playoffs, who haven't been to the playoffs for long time; they are Rockets, Nuggets, Grizzlies |
AX | Posted
on 09-Mar-04 06:00 AM
Lakers- Shaq alone can not do anything. He needs a good help to win the title. I still think the Lakers will win the title again. >> how many does he really need? MAILMAN??? THE GLOVE??? OR THE ROBIN??? :) Spurs- even if TD is healthy, they won't win the title. They will go to the second round but they won't win the final conference. >> TD has proved you wrong before and same case again? ;) Twolves- will pass the first round of the playoffs. And KG is MVP (90%) >> nice to have the hardware that TD got past 2 years... do they have enuf firepower to beat Yao and da Rocket's ex-franchise player in the first round? Mavs- time to fire Don Nelson, who never emphasizes on defense. Shame on you Mark Cuban. He just proved that "BUYING bunch of good players doesn't make a team unbeatable." >> he can try to immulate the real BOSS from MLB, but he ain't the BOSS ... tv gig may suit him more than the NBA team owner... Rusty name one who can replace DON NELSON.... Kings- when weren't they good teams? They have always been appearing as a team to beat the teams like the Lakers, but they cann't do nothing eventually. >> Kings coming really strong with the addition of cwebb. other teams should learn teamwork from these group Pacers- very strong in the East. O'Neil has a chance to win the MVP award if they maintain their best record in NBA. However, they can't win the title. >> need solid PG .... Pistons- now they got Raseed Wallace who can make this team more like western conference team. They got a good force now: Rip H, Billups, Wallace^2... >> team to beat from east.... has enuf firepower to play any western elites. Wallaces with Elden and Okur in the PF/C postion... got good role players in williamson, and prince... |
Rusty | Posted
on 09-Mar-04 10:13 AM
AX, how many does he really need? MAILMAN??? THE GLOVE??? OR THE ROBIN??? :) >> All he needs is one second scorer who can score 20+ consistently, like Kobe does. THE LAKERS WON 3 CHAMPIANSHIP IN A ROW WITHOUT MAILMAN and PAYTON. If kobe gets healthy and out of trouble, they can still win beat any other teams. Beside, Kobe, they still got the same players in front court and back as well. But the thing is Shaq has to get the ball in his hand... For Spurs, they are missing the big man standing as a center--David Robinson. Even if his productivity was diminishing, he was still a good at the defensive end. They need to get a solid point guard next season. That kid, Parker, can't do nothing and he's not consistent. Mavs- they must fire Don Nelson. How about bringing Pat Railey with big bucks. Mark Cuban can buy anybody I guess. Kings, they might go to the conference final but will be beaten by either the Lakers.. Pacers are okay for the east, they don't really need a point guard... |
AX | Posted
on 09-Mar-04 12:01 PM
how many does he really need? MAILMAN??? THE GLOVE??? OR THE ROBIN??? :) >> All he needs is one second scorer who can score 20+ consistently, like Kobe does. THE LAKERS WON 3 CHAMPIANSHIP IN A ROW WITHOUT MAILMAN and PAYTON. If kobe gets healthy and out of trouble, they can still win beat any other teams. Beside, Kobe, they still got the same players in front court and back as well. But the thing is Shaq has to get the ball in his hand... care to say why they did win last year with Shaq and Kobe on the team? For Spurs, they are missing the big man standing as a center--David Robinson. Even if his productivity was diminishing, he was still a good at the defensive end. They need to get a solid point guard next season. That kid, Parker, can't do nothing and he's not consistent. their nos does not say so? what made you think they missing the Admiral? not that he was not a great player. but spurs have added good players this year. TD needs to be healthy, rest is history... Mavs- they must fire Don Nelson. How about bringing Pat Railey with big bucks. Mark Cuban can buy anybody I guess. Rusty bro, he got burnt in Miami. And what makes you think he will coach? he wants the complete control of the team he coaches, that's why he left you beloved Knicks... Kings, they might go to the conference final but will be beaten by either the Lakers.. this is the team i am scared with... they have CWEBB to guard TD.... would be fun to watch my two best players head to head.... Pacers are okay for the east, they don't really need a point guard... they are not even worth talking here :p |
Rusty | Posted
on 09-Mar-04 12:38 PM
Damn, I sound like the Lakers fan, but I am not... In fact I am neutral for all NBA teams after the collapse of old Knickerbocker. >> care to say why they did win last year with Shaq and Kobe on the team? Shaq was not healthy last year and was not at his best. This year he is far better than last year >>Spurs have added good players this year. Yes they did...but they are not getting much out from those players. Maybe Togklu(!!) need more minutes. They need a point consistent point guard like Peanut Head Sam Cassell. Actually, Gary Payton would have gone to the Spurs. >>You are right about Pat R. However, he's one of the best coach in NBA history. He left the Knicks because he had to. He owned Miami heat while he was with knicks. His defense strategy is one of the best amonst NBA coaches. >> I used to believe in the Knigs, but they can't win big games... They are always thrilling team for the opponents. Mike Bibby always plays well against the Lakers. >>Pacers... why not? they are the team with the best record right now. Bad thing is they ain't got no big players. Instead of point guard, they actually need a big players like Brad Miller. They should have kept Brad Miller. |
yOuNgBlOoDz | Posted
on 09-Mar-04 03:44 PM
rusty bro its like like.. i lvoe this game bcoz i hate lakers n still have fun watchin em play :) well shaq's number r down.. he doesn't look as active as he was when they won championship... perhaps he don't really care.. kobe's in n out of the game.. his own pblms.. plus the injuries.. i never liked mailman.. finally an actor landed in the right place.. hollywood .. lets see how well can he act there.. glove... he's starting the pblms.. phil jackson.. ??? what to say?? YEs, spurs r missing the admiral... but that ain't gonna stop em.. its always TD who had carried the team in his shoulder pacers... leave em alone.. they can't really do nething despite having the best record in da league.. last year piston hold the best record in da east.. were out in the first round |
yOuNgBlOoDz | Posted
on 11-Mar-04 12:00 PM
how about... T-MACs 62pts game.. |
yOuNgBlOoDz | Posted
on 11-Mar-04 12:08 PM
WHOSE THE coACH OF THE YEAR??????????????????????? my choice would be.. hubie brown frm memphis.. OR flip sanders.. frm wolves wut ya guys think ??? |
Rusty | Posted
on 12-Mar-04 07:30 AM
YB, That's correct; the coach of the year would be one from your list. Vin Baker to the Knicks. Finally Baker came to the Knicks, but I don't think he can battle in the playoffs race for the knicks. His output has all diminished over the years, not necessarily because of alcohol consumption. Obviosly he won't be any help for the Knicks. |
Thinlazy | Posted
on 12-Mar-04 09:20 AM
How about nugget's coach? |
KoHoTyo? | Posted
on 12-Mar-04 12:06 PM
Do not count out T'Wolves...yes they are going through some rough time right now because they need to adjust Wally, Kandi and T'Hud into their system. But, once they sort out that then they will be one of the team to beat in the west......and for the Rockets fans, remember that everyday is not SUNDAY. |
yOuNgBlOoDz | Posted
on 12-Mar-04 12:15 PM
it has been sunday so far :-) to us rockets fan.. 4 W in row.. wutcha say bout that.. i mean i ain't saying rockets r THE BEST team.. but hell ya they r scary as hell.. but if they play like the way they are playing.. i feel sorry for the first round team thats gonna play against rockets.. i might be wrong.. but its a NBA.. nething can happen anytime.. yb |
KoHoTyo? | Posted
on 12-Mar-04 07:53 PM
Did anybody watch tonight's game between Wolves and Lakers?? |
AX | Posted
on 19-Mar-04 08:36 AM
back-to-back MVP winner Tim Duncan gets double-double (22-10 in 27 mins) as reserve to lead the Spurs to a 106-86 victory over Minnesota. time for some respect??? |
Spurs_fan | Posted
on 19-Mar-04 12:36 PM
Great game :) it was nice to see TD back on the track.He deserves another MVP. right guys?????????????? |
yOuNgBlOoDz | Posted
on 24-Mar-04 02:58 PM
aX bro n... spurs fan bro.. euta jasto jasto lagyo malai ta .///////// ani aajkal khoi keta haru kata gayo............. DON"T YOU HAVE NETHING TO SAY BOUT nba at its almost final week of regular season......... welll tonite's game... lakers n kings.. its a must watch........... lets see what them big four will do tonite against king plus.. i ll b busy watchin yao play against raptors.. he will score 30+ tonite yb |
babaal | Posted
on 24-Mar-04 09:22 PM
don't tell him that I wrote it here, but imagine 'Biruwa' actively contributing to this thread ;) ;) |
AX | Posted
on 02-Apr-04 07:22 AM
what you guys say about LAKERS beating ROCKETS and MAVS beating KINGS? Is CWEBB the malcontent of the KINGS? They were playing so great that had the league best record 34-15 before his arrival...... with CWEBB in the lineup they are miserably 8-8. Did KINGS made a mistake offering him the richest contract in team history? Is Brad Miller the KINGS's Magic Man??? |
Rusty | Posted
on 02-Apr-04 08:48 AM
AX, Of course CWebber must opt out from that team, and get traded to the Knicks:-) If this year Kings fails to go to the final or beaten by the lower seed, then they should really change their name to Scramento 'Queens' , and Vlade Divac and Peja should wear bikini and dance on the floor:) Now that I realize that team is better without CWebber. BTW, is Brad Miller injured or something? He's not been playing lately. He's of course the key force for the Kings, which they are missing, and allso, frogy 'Bobby Jacson' |
AX | Posted
on 02-Apr-04 09:24 AM
Rusty, are you sure you want CWEBB? He is a malcontent to the team. He is not a team player. All the places he been, he has taken his teams down from MICHIGAN WOLVERINES to WARRIORS, WIZARDS and now in SACREMENTO KINGS. Rem the timeout while playing for WOLVERINES? and how about the pass 2 years ago while playing for Lakers? I wonder if he also got paid for the TIMEOUT and PASS, as he is the only player who got paid while playing in high school. |
AX | Posted
on 05-Apr-04 08:16 AM
Six and counting.... what do you say Lakers fan? ;) go SPURS go!!! |
Hellbound | Posted
on 05-Apr-04 08:22 AM
As I was watching the Spurs, I was really impressed. After all, Tim Duncan is the true MVP. Kevin Garnet would never be MVP candidate if he didnot have supporting teammates like Sprewell and Cassel. Hell |
Hellbound | Posted
on 05-Apr-04 08:25 AM
I just want to add one more thing. I really hate to see eastern conference teams. They are almost feeble. Somebody said, "the nets bored us to death appearing twice in the NBA finals." In fact, no team from the east can compete with the western conference champians. |
yOuNgBlOoDz | Posted
on 05-Apr-04 09:05 AM
loosing at this time of the season,,, scary ain't it......... hope the houston will berth to play offffffffffffffffffffffffffff after what.. 5 yrs... yb |
AX | Posted
on 05-Apr-04 10:00 AM
who thought Rockets going to win the game yesterday??? KINGS got the best record in the west and is suppose to reach western conference final according to other sajha NBA pundits :) I guess CWEBB heard me :), he responded with huge basket at the end of the game. hope he does the same when they play Lakers coming Sunday ;) |
Rusty | Posted
on 06-Apr-04 12:58 PM
This years play-offs picture: First round: (1)SACRAMENTO vs. (8)Utah =======> Sacramento (Sacramento won 3-1 in regular season) (4)SAN ANTONIO vs. (5)Memphis =======> San Antonio (Memphis won 3-1 in regular season) (2)MINNESOTA vs. (7)Houston =======> MN (Series tied 2-2) (3)L.A. LAKERS vs. (6)Dallas =======> LA (Series tied 2-2) Second round: Scramento Vs San Antonio ========> Sacrmento (3-4) MN Vs LA ========> LA (2-4) conference Final: Sacremento Vs Lakers ========> Lakers (2-4) From East: Indiana Final: Lakers Vs Indi (4 - 2) Final MVP - Kobe |
AX | Posted
on 06-Apr-04 01:13 PM
I still say SA Spurs will get #2 seed in the west. I want them to play LA Lakers in 2nd round :) I think Pistons have more chances from the Eastern Conf. With their two big wall(ace)they can bang with any western powerhouse. I still don't see any Lakers fans here after their loss to Spurs ;) |
Rusty | Posted
on 06-Apr-04 01:23 PM
I know, whoever plays with Memphis will have very difficulty to beat them. As you can see, San Antonio lost 3 times with them in regular season. |
k_loaded | Posted
on 06-Apr-04 11:09 PM
Blew against blazers too......... ....... .....But hopes are still high. Go lakers. |
AX | Posted
on 07-Apr-04 07:20 AM
so much of 11 game win streak..... 2 and counting ....... hear me Lakers fans. You still got another 2 games to loose before season ends. |
On-The-Rocks | Posted
on 07-Apr-04 08:34 AM
yes.. the hopes are still high loaded dude. sometimes, fluke does happens, its just a part of the game. Go... Lakersssssss!!! |
KoHoTyo? | Posted
on 07-Apr-04 08:37 AM
What happened to Rockets? They are in a slump, when it counts the most. What happened to " everyday has been sunday to rockets fan.. ",yOuNgBlOoDz ??? and now praying for playoff berth. Whereas T'Wolves looking to be "The Best in the West" |
k_loaded | Posted
on 08-Apr-04 05:19 AM
Just heard enough, Ax bro...... ....infact, antilakers should get a chance to cheer too........and may be this is your final chance. You dont get to see those come playoff time, do you? And you dont expect it happenning, or do you? Please no. Do a favor to yourself. |
Rusty | Posted
on 08-Apr-04 05:49 AM
:):) Knicks are back in the playoffs after 3 years:) In west there's a big competition for the 8th seed. If Carmelo can get into the playoffs, then he sure will be the rookie of the year. Champianship- Lakers Final MVP - Kobe MVP- KG The most improved player- Zach Randolph Rookie of the year- C Anthony 6th man - hmmm.. A. Jamison Coach of the year- Hubie Brown |
aakash | Posted
on 08-Apr-04 12:09 PM
Rusty bro...i liked ur prediction but the 6th man award should go to Manu Ginobli ..he is really great off the bench..but...damn! how can we forget Antown Jamision...hm...its a tough one....we will find out ! By the way...... I still BELIEVE in the lakers.... well..antilakers must be cheering for the last time this season....Go on guys , u wont get another chance! |
yOuNgBlOoDz | Posted
on 08-Apr-04 12:14 PM
KO HO TYO!!!!!!!!!! u didn't say a word they had winnin streak.. no all of a sudden ur out here criticizing.. hear meh dude... first thing, rockets gonna make the playoff.. n thats on #7.. secondly, if they play their best like.. sum of the game they have been playing.. no doubt they ll go fo second round despite who they gonna face.. u name them,,,,,,,,,,,,, see lakers had.. 10 game winnin streak.. guess what.. they fall to keep it.. now they r loosin 2 in a row.. its NBA yb |
AX | Posted
on 08-Apr-04 12:26 PM
There is another team who will finish the season with 11 game winning streak ....... can anyone name the team? |
Rusty | Posted
on 08-Apr-04 12:33 PM
AX, Spurs:) |
Rusty | Posted
on 08-Apr-04 12:33 PM
Bad news for Lakers fan. My prediction now might fail... Lakers need Shaq with full strength... read this news... http://www.dailynews.com/Stories/0,1413,200~29583~2067564,00.html Sorry, "Shaquille O'Neal could be dragging an achy knee into the playoffs again, but the Lakers' margin of error is too slight, and their need for a strong finish too great, to allow him a rest." In my view, Mark Cuban, who thinks he can buy(win) champianship by buying all star players, have abused two solid players: Jamison and Walker. They are capable of performing better than what they have been performing in their limitated minutes. They should not stay with that team next season. Go to the Knicks..;) Well, Aakash, you might be right. I forgot about Ginobli. |
On-The-Rocks | Posted
on 08-Apr-04 12:58 PM
I don't know but Pacers seems pretty hot this season. W L Pct GB Home Road Div Indiana 58 21 .734 -- 32-7 26-14 19-8 Scoring J. O'Neal 20.0 Rebounds J. O'Neal 10.0 Assists J. Tinsley 5.8 FG% J. Foster 54.1 FT% J. Jones 100.0 3PT% J. Bender 50.0 Blk J. O'Neal 2.6 Steals R. Artest 2.1 Do they have a chance to beat the west? please choose one. a. yeah. b. hell no! c. only if the opponent get injured. |
khimu | Posted
on 08-Apr-04 01:15 PM
man, man...... i broke my re-control again. I couldn't control my anger when Lakers lost against Spurs. And again Blazer beat'em . What the f*ck are they thinking yo , somebody wake'em yo, c'mon guys c'mon ,............. 4r hall of fame guys are ok but Fisher & Jorge f*cked up so badly this year ya. |
ProudNepali | Posted
on 08-Apr-04 02:21 PM
RUSTY bro's prediction appear very realisitc......................with one and only one exception. # 8 seed in the Western Conference------------------------------------------------>> Nuggets With four games remaining in the season, all three (Blazers, Jazz and Nuggets) are tied at the 8 th position. BUT....Denver wins all the tie breakers. Denver Vs. BLazers game might decide the outcome. Jazz looked like a playoff callier team once but they seem cold these days. Blazers are turning the tables but their effort might be just short. Denver has to do be positive about their schedule. It's anybody's game.. yet Denver appears to be the favorite. OH.. yeah.. I were also surprised by the recent slump of the ROCKETS. bUT great.. they won quiet comfortably. I still believe the kIngs will win the tourney. ANyone can finist at top. JEEEEEEEEz the KNICKS are through. With a win The CELTICS WIll be there too. Sixersssssssss won't get to the playoffs--- Cavaliers..maybe next season. GO celtics go. We might play PACERS again in the first round. THis time they will learn their second lesson. GO NBA go |
AX | Posted
on 08-Apr-04 02:38 PM
Forget abotu Blazers for the playoffs. they still got 2 games with Spurs... OT, my choice will be B. Piston may have a chance to win 1 or 2 game in championship game :) |
yOuNgBlOoDz | Posted
on 10-Apr-04 11:59 AM
OKIE>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ROCKETS FOR PLAYOFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF GO GO HOUSTON GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO damn!!! it took em 5 freakin years........................ feels elated |
aakash | Posted
on 11-Apr-04 03:28 PM
GO LAKERSSSSSSSSSS even though they got smashed by the kings today! :-( |
ProudNepali | Posted
on 11-Apr-04 04:21 PM
OH YEah............. thAT SURPRISES ME!!!!!!!!!!!! hOW IN THE WORLD CAN THE LA Lakers lose??? Can I find some answers here in SAJha. Just the last week there were 100 voices (most of them from the same person) chanting for LAKERS. But what happened to them?? THey beat the kings with about 20 pts not before 2 weeks. Now, see what happened today?? Oh yeahm B. Jackson didn't play either. Is someone going to tell us that the Lakers missed RIck FOX??? ...alrite cutting it up here.. The Lakers are a damn good team and still amongst the NBA championship contender. Yet, they aren't the best one at the moment. It's the KINGS who is the best. the T'wolves, Spurs, Lakers and Kings can all Have identical stats. entering playoff times but.... only one team can have edge over the rest. That will be the KINGS then. go NBA go Jai Nepal |
ProudNepali | Posted
on 11-Apr-04 04:25 PM
GO CELTICS Go. This is the perfect opportunity for the athletes playing for the first time in BOston to step UP and do what they are supposed to do. Antowaine Walker we miss you....hey see we are in the playoffs too. At this time Pacers might be 20-1 favorite but COME playoffs time, the regular season standing will barely mean a lot. GO CEltics go. Jai Nepal |
DWI | Posted
on 11-Apr-04 05:14 PM
Am I the only one supporting Minnesota T'Wolves For the championship? Okie, just to boost my confidence, I had picked Spurs last year and Lakers a year before. No more boasting, but seriously, the only contender to T'wolves are Pistons and Lakers. Kings won today but, that team won't know how to contend Kobi (he will be the factor, not Shaq) comes playoff (or western championship). Spurs are still good, unlike what their regular season stats say (they have a knack of getting better as the season progresses. Why Pistons? They are the only team who don't heavily rely on its offense, a field that no other team can contend with T'wolves. Again, I am sticking to my prediction when the season started, T'WOLVES FOR THE WIN |
DWI | Posted
on 11-Apr-04 05:15 PM
Rusty and Ax What do you think of our first round with Nets? |
aakash | Posted
on 11-Apr-04 05:35 PM
Proud nEPALI ... i guess u ddint see the face of rich adelman when lakers were only trailing by 9 points at one time in fourth quarter...even though thy were leadin n playin great, they had the fear of loosin......Thats what lakers do to the most of the team in NBA>....believe it or not..lakers were never out of the game!!! it was just a game...wait till the playoffs!!! DWI , T-wolves r playing just great....i have to admit that... I still believe SPurs is the only team that can give lakers a hard time in the playoffs...Spurs D is the best !!! Kings can do whatever they want....they aint goin anywhere...championship is too far!!! i wanna see the pistons n pacers matchup!!! |
DWI | Posted
on 11-Apr-04 07:32 PM
Aakash Although I put Spurs next to T'wolves and Lakers, I still would've chosen it, had I not chosen T'wolves. They are good. While most teams know how to play well, they know how to WIN (with the influence of the big guy). Addition of Torkoglu will help and Ginobli is a 1 year 'Veteran' in NBA now. But, they will face T'wolves in the 2nd round and it is not a good team to compete with T'wolves. Garnet will match Duncan and T'wolves has rest of the squad to crush Parker-Ginobli combo. West final: T'wolves vs Lakers. |
yOuNgBlOoDz | Posted
on 11-Apr-04 08:39 PM
i donno about other teams.. but SPURS r one hell of a scary team for lakers.. they can simply beat shit outta neone.. just name em.. n yes.. kings did good job.. esp on shaq n kobe... wow impressive defense it was... they proved that they r the KINGS............. t-wolves.. (welcome back DWI broda)....... yes they will go further this season ;) ... n broda.. as for now.. lets just stick to first round of Playoff.. watcha say.. go go rockets go. yb |
KoHoTyo? | Posted
on 12-Apr-04 07:14 AM
DWI, I am with you...... KG4 MVP and GO T'WOLVES !! |
DWI | Posted
on 12-Apr-04 07:32 AM
Youngaa, my man. Howz yo partna? It has been a little hard to keep up with Sajha after I have moved to a new location for my job (still in NY). As far as first round is concern, I guess that is what us, Rockets and Knicks fans, have to satisfy ourselves with this season. Although, I know you (and even me) would like to disagree. We do have a chance to go to the next round you know. Rocket has a good center and great guard. Knicks are playing with Nets whose fate even they don't know. Ko_ho_tyo, jasle malai mohni lagayo. Sorry, yeah! Minnesota my broda!!! |
Rusty | Posted
on 12-Apr-04 07:56 AM
First of all, looking at the competitive teams in west, I, now puzzled who really goes into second round... In fact, all these teams in west are awesome unlike previous years. However, I don't count the Kings for the NBA Final regardless of their team records. Yes, DWI..very well said. They won't find ways to stop Kobe while they may be able to stop Shaq. I would like to see the Spurs, winning the second consecutive title, but like DWI said, I would say TWolves are much stronger team this year, enough for going into the conference final. However, if they contend with the Lakers, again Kobe is the problem. They won't be able to stop Kobe even if they find ways to stop Shaq. Payton can do good job on Cassel.. Remember that Payton and Karl Malone have come to the Lakers to win a champianship.. so they won't give up easily. Thank God.. Knickerbocker sneaked into the playoffs:-) We should be proud of that, and I am not expecting much from this team when they playing aganist the nets. If Houston was healthy, he would certainly come up with great shoot aganist this team. Most of our starters have playoffs experience. So, they won't be very bad as they compete with this team. Again, Kurt and Tim Thomas have to play with their full strength. Kid is unstopable ball passer, so does Marbury. Don't let Martin dunk openly. It's gonna be very interesting game I guess. Boston Celtics... honestly this team doesn't deserve playoff. They should be one of the worst team; however, east playoffs race is so weak that they got lucky to go into the playoffs. |
AX | Posted
on 12-Apr-04 08:12 AM
welcome back DWI. I think Knicks have better chances with NETS than other powerhouse teams like Pacers and Pistons. I am sure Marbury would love to have matchup with JKIDD. Sorry to say YB bro, Spurs is the one who will be playing Rockets in the 1st round. Both team relies on defense and has quickers backcourts. Both offense goes from low to high post with Yao being the man in Rockets and TD with Spurs. Houston always had problem with Tim Duncan. I believe Spurs swept them this year. During playoff it could be different. I am sure it will be great series...... edge to SPURS (3-1) are you guys sure about the MVP? :p |
AX | Posted
on 12-Apr-04 08:15 AM
NINE in a row, two to go :p go SPURS go |
yOuNgBlOoDz | Posted
on 12-Apr-04 08:16 AM
AX bro.. atleast say.. 4-3.. would love to see them play all seven games ;) yb |
AX | Posted
on 12-Apr-04 08:19 AM
Rusty bro, good analysis. But have you heard of Bruce Bowen? He exists in Spurs land and he is a defensive genious. I say he should win the Defensive player of the year, am i being bias? i guess that's just me :) How much chance does TD has for the three win a row for the MVP trophy? |
DWI | Posted
on 12-Apr-04 09:24 AM
Rusty We sure are proud of Knicks, although we didn't even win 50% of the games. Chemistry is very important and we saw, a team record, 24/25 players in the team, changing the plays all the times. I am a little fed up with H20 and don't expect big from him if he comes in the first round. IFF he comes back to play and IFF we go to the eastern conference final (both with odds 1 to 100) he will be very detrimental. Ax, I think Knicks had better chances with Pistons, although Pistons are arguably the best team in East. With Houston out, Knicks cannot play with offensive super powers like Pacers or even Nets. But with Kidd and Martin coming off the injury and still rusty, we now have a good chance to beat them. Oh, sweeeeet revenge that'd be. I hope Lenny plays Sweetney and Dermarr Johnson atleast 25 minutes each this time. I also hope he starts either Dermarr or Penny instead of Shandon Anderson. Youngaa, Rockets vs Spurs? 4-2. |
Rusty | Posted
on 12-Apr-04 01:15 PM
Just a curiosity, in season 98-99, why did each team played only 50 games, instead of 82? Did they want to try cutting back on 82 games that season to experiment? I just forgot..why... This is the year when Spurs won the champianship, including a clean sweep of the Lakers in conference finals. |
DWI | Posted
on 12-Apr-04 01:32 PM
Because of the Players association Strike/lockout. I think one of the agenda was vet minimum (1 million), but don't quote me on it. Baseball also had strike few years before the NBA strike. It helped knicks as we went to the final. God knows what'd have happen if Camby had played 32 more games, and our fixtures would've been different as well. Rusty, did you notice one thing. This is the first season that Knicks are in playoffs, since we started commenting Basketball in Sajha? More reasons to discuss now. |
AX | Posted
on 12-Apr-04 02:07 PM
It was a lockout-shortened season. Spurs won it all that year. That's why Zen Master from la la land refused to call them a championship team last year. I guess he changed his mind after they got beat by TD and the SPURS badly :) They went on to wint he championship with impressive 15-2 in the playoffs. I believe that was TD's 2nd season in the league. The Admiral was comfortable as being the 2nd scoring option to TD. Avery Johnson was the unquestionable leader of the team and was directing the team . Explosive and graceful Sean Elliot was reliable. After winning the championship, he revealed that he had played despite needing a kidney transplant. I immensly enjoyed even it was lockout-shortened season. |
ProudNepali | Posted
on 12-Apr-04 02:07 PM
Damn right rusty bro... Your analysis are good and detailed. yet not the most impressive. Why in the Earth do the CEltics not deserve a playoff berth?? Give some reasons bro. That way you can support your statement. This is the team trying to save its essence. Or do people believe 76ers, Cavs or Rapotors were the more deserving ones? And why?? Is it because of Lebron James, Iverson, and Carter??? They are all allstar calliber players and I am great fan of all of them. Carter is my personal favorite. We wish he had enough support. Guys we gotta respect what the Celtics had faced this season. With only 4 players left in the rooster from the last season, this team had believed in the new comers and had played their hearts out. The team have an almost a completely new look. Paul Pierce is the sole leader here. He is doing what he had been doing for the past few years. He have been helping his new and rookie teammates play better basket ball. How cannot anyone appreciate what the Celtics had done this season?? They didn't get all those wins for granted. They earned it. The Celtics fan never lost faith in thier players. They always swarmed to the FleetCenter to fill all the seats. In turn they were able to encourage the new athletes. Only the athletes can tell how it feels like to play for the celtics??? Though FleetCenter is not the same as the Boston Garden. It's the next big thing. And one more interesting fact: despite the below .500 winning pct. The celtics have one of the better records against the teams from the Western Conference than its Eastern Conference records. This is how the standing looks like if only the East Conf. vs West Conf. records were taken into account. Win Lost 1. Indiana Pacers : 20 8 2. Detroit Pistons : 17 11 3. NJ Nets : 13 15 4. Boston Celtics : 12 16 Miami Heat : 12 16 6. NO Hornets : 11 17 7. M. Bucks : 8 20 NY Knicks : 8 20 Surprising huh.................... yeahh that's exactly how it looks like as of 4-12-04 without countign the games going overnight. And Paul Pierce himself is having a great season (all around). His PPG had dropped but other assests had improved. This is how his stats are : PPG : 23.0 (NBA Rank # 5) APG: 5.1 (NBA Rank # 21) RPG: 6.5 (NBA Rank # 41) Free throw Pct. .819 (NBA Rank # 34) Free throw Attempts 631 (NBA Rank # 2) FG Attempts 1497 (NBA Rank # 3) SPG 1.64 (NBA Rank# 13) FTs made 517 (NBA Rank # 2) Triple Double 1 (NBA Rank # 7) TOtal Efficiency points 1836 (NBA Rank # 10) His TO pg is alos amongst the highest but you will certainly expect that when all the figures are so incredible. This stats. was just to make people aware of the UNSUNG hero. He is not close to MVP by any means yet he should be respected alongside the top favorites. still.... will anyone talk about CElitcs lack of Credibility??? GO CEltics go. (Rusty bro... I agree with you in almost everything except few exceptions of course. Celtics is one of them) JAi Nepal |
ProudNepali | Posted
on 12-Apr-04 02:58 PM
Please Notice: I meant to say................ "Eastern Conference Counterparts (Rivals) "instead of And one more interesting fact: despite the below .500 winning pct. The celtics have one of the better records against the teams from the Western Conference than its "Eastern Conference records." Jai Nepal (do pour your opinions) |
aakash | Posted
on 16-Apr-04 02:15 PM
Make some noise!!!!!!! It is Playoffs time!!! |
On-The-Rocks | Posted
on 16-Apr-04 02:24 PM
First game: lakers vs. houstin. whats gonna be the final score on the first game?? i say- lakers- 95, houstin-87. GO Lakersss.......... |
k_loaded | Posted
on 17-Apr-04 05:18 AM
Do you guys see any first-round offset? |
oys_chill | Posted
on 17-Apr-04 09:58 AM
Memphis gonna sweep SPURS (FINGERS CROSSED:) Dallas OVER KINGS!! |
yOuNgBlOoDz | Posted
on 17-Apr-04 12:13 PM
on the rocks.. possibilties are.. it might be vice versa ;) i have faith in my hometeam :D:D:D yb |
Rusty | Posted
on 19-Apr-04 04:32 PM
All top seeds in both east and west remain on the top. At this point, all top seeds look very strong and I cannot say who will win. MN is equally strong in west; so does Kings; so does Spurs.. And do not underestimate east this time... Ben Wallace is coming up very strong.. Let's wait until they face pacers... I have a hunch that my knicks will get swept by the nets:( |
AX | Posted
on 21-Apr-04 08:38 AM
what happened to your team so far? Which teams look impreesive so far? would lvoe to hear from NBA fans :) The NBA champion SPURS are playing fabulously. Parker is superb. Robert Horry is consistent with his treys in playoffs. Bowen’s tenacious defense is impressive.They can use more help from international duos of Manu and Torkoglu. TD is playing great even when he is hurt. Sorry Grizzlies, you guys play great, but you playing with wrong team. Who is next??? |
Rusty | Posted
on 21-Apr-04 08:47 AM
AX, My pick is still the Lakers even though I am not lakers fan. Shaq is dominator and Kobe is killer.. I just don't know why they are having such a hard time with Houston. But, trust me, when they play with Spurs or Kings, they will play at the same level... Ma pani Spurs le nai jotos banchu.. tara, it won't happen this year. Kings are also coming strong, but they will exit in second round. I think the game between Mavs and Kings will go to 7th game. Nets will sweep Knicks, and Pacers will sweep Celts. Knicks n Pacers deserve sweep coz they were not supposed to be in playoffs with their low grade wins. |
AX | Posted
on 21-Apr-04 09:04 AM
Rusty say "Shaq is dominator " 7 points and 7 rebounds in 33 mins tells you how dominant he is :) |
Rusty | Posted
on 21-Apr-04 09:06 AM
That's because he's injured and was in foul trouble. But it doesn't happen every night. After all they need Shaq; however, I would say Kobe will be final MVP this year. |
Spurs_fan | Posted
on 21-Apr-04 09:08 AM
hehe kobe final mvp ? hmm are yu kidding |
AX | Posted
on 21-Apr-04 09:24 AM
Rusty says "That's because he's injured and was in foul trouble." how about using other word than dominant? Does injury prone Shaq sounds good to you? and Shaq in Foul trouble??? oh no how can this happen? blame those umpires. Kobe final mvp rey. He can win one, if Lakers win the next series. They will be playing SPURS. I can't say SPURS will sweep the series, but they will win (4-1 ???). I feel bad for Mailman though, he signed with Lakers with 10 year veteran min salary(1 mil???) Mailman, you can join SPURS next year, but you can only have 15 mins a game. is that okay?. and yeah Gary can join with Mailman, if he wants to back up Speedy Parker ;) |
DWI | Posted
on 21-Apr-04 10:28 AM
Rusty Knicks won't get sweeped, that's for sure. We will have atleast 1 win at the garden. Crowd factor. I am sticking with T'wolves As far as Lakers vs Spurs, I might give the edge to Spurs. The difference maker will be Payton and Kobe. If Payton utilzes Kobe and Shaq more they will take it. Otherwise Spurs are too strong to be beaten. It is funny to even imagine T'wolves beating Spurs in the Wester Final but that has a high probability of happening based on their game style. Ofcouse, Garnett for MVP |
AX | Posted
on 23-Apr-04 10:42 AM
Being anti-lakers in LA is no good. I watched 2 Lakers games (with spurs & kings) and Lakers lost both. They stopped inviting me :( Any non Lakers fans (in LA) watching game tonite? BUDweiser on me :) |
Go_Lakerssssssssssss | Posted
on 23-Apr-04 11:02 AM
i am die hard lakers fan. i will be watching game tonight in LA with big breast women (Huge game Huge boobs). if you want to join me in LA email me. ![]() |
AX | Posted
on 23-Apr-04 11:12 AM
sounds fun ......... Yippie!!! tonite is the H(.)(.)ters nite |
Go_Lakerssssssssssss | Posted
on 23-Apr-04 11:36 AM
Yo AX bro let me know if you want to join the"MILF" party tonight in LA. i send you email no reply |
lonely_star | Posted
on 23-Apr-04 11:46 AM
Yo Gini bro.. how about with partial Lakers Fan.. Crown Royel one me ;) |
khimu | Posted
on 25-Apr-04 03:58 PM
way to go "LAKERS" Molon as a warior "WOW" love it! I love the way his Jersey got tore. Way to go Molon |
aakash | Posted
on 25-Apr-04 04:00 PM
Real Warrior!!! MALONE DID IT !!! game 4 goes to KARLLLLLLLLLLL MALOooooooooooneeeee |
AX | Posted
on 26-Apr-04 11:16 AM
15 in a row and counting..... who is next? |
Rusty | Posted
on 26-Apr-04 11:28 AM
AX, I feel sorry for San Antonio who's gonna face the Lakers in second round. Lakers are jhurrr team I suppose. But they got the knack to beat opponent in the last minute, and Kobe does all that. Even though he puts 10 -12 points per game because of double team, he's been the great force for the Lakers, usually for comeback in last minutes. I have been following Houstan- Lakers game. I think Houstan could beat Lakers in each and every game, but playoffs experience is a big factor for new Houston players. Houstan got a great coach and good players.. enough to beat the Lakers, but they need to know how to play in the last minutes. Mobley doing a great job... Francis doing good job. San Antonio-- very impressive team. If they find ways to guard Kobe, they can beat lakers. I think they have done good job in guarding Kobe in last two games. Robert Horry- a key force with great playoff experience- must outbrust with his former team. I think Bowen will guard Kobe... He must stop him from open dunks... Make Shaq sit on the beanch with 4/5 fouls by 3rd quarter... |
DWI | Posted
on 26-Apr-04 12:56 PM
Knicks Lost but should be commended for putting up a fight without any offensive weapons (both Houston and Tim Thomas were injured and didn't play). Marbury is blamed for not utilizing his players, but he didn't have much to utilize with. Even with Nets double teaming him, he scored 31 points last night. Good job Knicks. Karl Malone has been big for the Lakers. If all 4 put their best show, nobody can beat Lakers. But that is a big IFF and thus I'm going with Spurs over Lakers. T'wolves for the ultimate win, still. |
ProudNepali | Posted
on 26-Apr-04 02:57 PM
Damnnnnnnnnn The Lakers............. Rockets were caught short. Rockets will have difficult time winning games. Yet, a very good time experiencing the Charms of NBA play-0ffs. Specially for YAO and Francis. By the way, I am surprised the way Yao handled Shaq. Yet, Lakers are more than Shaq this year. Learning experiencing for the CELTICS (the Rookies and those who had never been to the playoffs before), KNICKS, GRizzlies and KNICKS. Of all these teams who had been swept I guess KNicks were the most disappointing for KIDD (not 100% healthy) VS. Starbury was the most anticipated matchup. Celtics disappointed.. as was expected. If only they won one game. Nevermind.. watchout for the NExt season. I am excited about the NUggets. rookie Carmelo gave enough reasons to the doubters why he was the MVP NCAA I last season and why he should have been the ROOKie of the year this season. His name will go alsongside Michael Jordan amongst the ROokies leading their teams in scoring and taking them to the playoffs. IF Nuggets win tonight..... it will be a very big mission accompllished for them. GO NBA go. Jai Nepal |
ProudNepali | Posted
on 26-Apr-04 02:59 PM
I meant ESpecially jai Nepal |
k_loaded | Posted
on 26-Apr-04 03:25 PM
15 in a row and counting ............... ......NO FURTHER CALCULUS REQUIRED!!! THE RUN ENDS RIGHT THERE. LAKERS IS NEXT........YOU KNOW IT!!! SCARRY, AINT IT? |
AX | Posted
on 26-Apr-04 07:48 PM
vely vely scary. Lakers were the champions last year, ain't they? :) |
ProudNepali | Posted
on 27-Apr-04 09:59 AM
NICe one AX bro.... Haha Jai Nepal (the picture didn't open at all on my screen) |
Rusty | Posted
on 27-Apr-04 10:07 AM
AX, don't be sarcastic about the Lakers. They're scary team indeed. They are come back team... If they're playing close game, in most of the time, Kobe always finds ways to win. Examples: all games between Houstan Vs Lakers. San Anotonio must have tough defense strategy aganist this guy. I think Shaq himself is fatigued. Payton and Malone are not very consistent. I still stick with my prediction: The Lakers all the way to champianship:) Not a Laker fan; Rusty |
AX | Posted
on 27-Apr-04 10:38 AM
Rusty, Spurs don't need anybody named Kobe Stopper. But Spurs have Bruce Bowen, Have you watched him play??? He made the NBA's all-defensive first team this year. When they lost on April 4th, Zen Master whined about Bowen's defensive tenacity, I hope he won't whine during playoffs time. Rusty said "Kobe always finds ways to win". That's why they won last year and they needed to added TWO aging superstars. yeah yeah any team can have 15 win a row. Rusty, are you one of them who picked Grizzlies to win over Spurs? I am sure Grizzlies players and coaches are enjoying golf somehwere now. Don't ever underestimate the heart of a champion. - Rudy T. |
rayy | Posted
on 27-Apr-04 10:47 AM
Have you guys watched the game three between rockets and lakers? That was the most exciting game for this year's playoff so far. I think rockets have good foundation for the championship and may be they still have chance to make more noise in this playoff race. I hope the game five would be like game three and hope steve will show his franchise skills. |
AX | Posted
on 27-Apr-04 11:07 AM
It was a horrible game with exciting end. what's up with the shooting these days? It still got great rating (highest for this year). I believe Lakers are the most watched NBA team in the US. There are lots of them (including myself) who just watch Lakers game, so they can enjoy Lakers loosing. I think Rockets are 2 years away from being the contender (YB, hear me???) By then Shaq's will be out of his prime (if he is not already) and Yao will be stronger (weight strengthening program during off-season) with playoffs experience, and they have to trade one of the gaurd (Francis???). Can anyone tell me why they traded Moochie Norris for C. Weatherspoon? |
forget-me-not | Posted
on 27-Apr-04 11:23 AM
I wish lakers win this time.. I mean the championship.....I would love to see that... |
aakash | Posted
on 27-Apr-04 12:07 PM
Spurs r the only team that can stop lakers from winning the championship!!!! I M SURE LAKERS WILL BEAT THE HECK OUT OF SPURS THIS TIME!!!!! i m sure they r gonna double team KOBE , therefore MALONE and PAYTON has to be prepared..they have to play biggg in that series...including shaq stayin out of foul trouble and George, fisher n Rush has to do thier part.....i dont expect too much from fox other than his superb defense...keep playing defense FOX..i still believe !!!! GO LAKERSSSSSSS SPURS be ready !!! |
AX | Posted
on 27-Apr-04 12:12 PM
when you going to advance first? I hope Kobe won't have any date conflicts with his court date. It won't be fun to beat out Lakers w/o their best player. Spurs are well rested :) BRING IT ON |
k_loaded | Posted
on 27-Apr-04 03:09 PM
Last year hangover still bothering you bro?............Bad for you. If you are going to talk about what happened last year or the years before that.......you will have hard time convincing YOURSELF spurs are better. I understand how good a defender Bowen is and his name being on all defensive first team. I do respect him as a good defender. But if you scroll down that list and watch carefully you should see purple and gold jersey with No.8 stamped on its back. (You can go scroll last years list too......just to let you know what else happened last year) And ....just for you........dont think bowen will be able to guard No.8 all the way in seven game series. How bad you think so. And How bad you'd wish kobe have date conflict with court. Thats the biggest(only?) advantage Spurs have. I just hope it wont happen. vely vely scaly???.......yant it? |
k_loaded | Posted
on 27-Apr-04 03:14 PM
And by the way........is it true that people hate lakers only because they keep on winning toooo much? Just a hear-say. Ax ji.......love to hear your opinion. |
yOuNgBlOoDz | Posted
on 27-Apr-04 04:08 PM
k-loaded thats not why i hate lakers i have my own reasons............................................. but nowhere in my reasons.. has the assumption u made :)... i hate em. yet i love watchin them play n get their arse whup.. esp.. HERE IN TEXXXXXXXXXXXXXXAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS :D:D:D:D yb ki kasto AX bro :D:D:D: |
aakash | Posted
on 27-Apr-04 06:28 PM
K_loaded.....well said brother!!!! BOWEN and all the others spurs be ready ..they better get some rest before shaq is gonna hack the heck out of them ....Spurs better hope that kobe has date conflit wit court.....they better pray , infact!!! alright..duncan , manu and parker..bowen ...start praying along with all the spurs fans!!!! haha... BTW, Malone n payton are also very hungry baby!!!!!!!!! GO LAKERSSSSSSSS Also, TEXASSSSSSSSSSSS SUCKSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS |
AX | Posted
on 27-Apr-04 07:29 PM
keep them guessing.... I am disappointed that I still did not find the answer I was looking for. K_loaded, you can fill the pages blah blah, but why did they lose last year? That was the Q. If Lakers were great as you guys think, they should have swept Rockets like Spurs did Grizzlies, NO??? eagerly waiting for an answer.... no need to feel the page with what Kobe can do, we all know what about it. and I can find his stat at www.nba.com |
k_loaded | Posted
on 28-Apr-04 02:35 AM
"why did they lose last year? That was the Q".........do you wanna go few years back too??? Like i said you will have hard time convincing YOURSELF spurs are better if you keep looking in the past. "If Lakers were great as you guys think, they should have swept Rockets like Spurs did Grizzlies, NO???".......whaa??? Thats just wat....you tell. Makes no sense to me at all. Why?Lets talk some history as you have started.......just few years back....mavs swept t'wolves in first round and kings(no1 seed) had a competitive series with jazz......2nd round?......kings beat the shit out of mavs. Trust me.....i dont underestimate you as much as you think i do. I am 100% sure you know where to find those damn stats. But you see......thats the biggest problem you have. You just play with those stats and just underestimate kobe's potential. Stats are decieving. Dont just look at them. If you need futher explanation..........you please explain this to me first. Bruce Bowen SA spurs(03-40)......1.02 steals/game, .40 blocks/game, 2.5 def reb/game. Now how the hell does such stat qualifies your best defender to be on all defensive first team. See how misleading the stats can be? Now i am convinced......kobe sure is scary (and intimidating???) And yeah.....i would like to use some more space....fill the page as you put..... blah, blah, blah. peace. |
Rusty | Posted
on 28-Apr-04 06:22 AM
Lakers got everything to beat the Spurs this year. Judging from Lakers Vs Rockets, only thing the Lakers are lack of this year and last year-- challenge, tough mentality, killer instinct to beat every team. Fisher is not playing good; Payton not being consistent. Kobe of course has that mentality even though he's going through so many problems. On the other hand, Shaq has not been playing at the same level as he played in the past few years. But, Zen master is good at integrating these forces... we don't have to provide you the proof. So, you never know when the Lakers will start shining again, for their dynasty. Again, why did Lakers lose and San Antonio win last year? Because, they're not mentally prepared. Kobe was playing good, but Shaq was not. He had too much of champianship rings (3 in a row) Plus they had some injuries too. Despite that, San Antonio had such a hard time beating them even though the series was 4-2 or something. Trust me, San Antonio is not unbeatable team, especially when they face big teams like Mavs, Kings, or the Lakers. The only year San Antonio looked unbeatable was in year 1998-99 season, when they won title. |
AX | Posted
on 28-Apr-04 08:45 AM
yes Rusty, here's the 4 hall of famers stats: Shaq - 23 points 11 rebounds Malone - 16 points 9 rebound Kobe - 25 points 5 rebound 4 assists Payton - 13 points 3 rebounds 7 assists D. George + Bench - 21 points should we hand them the trophy now? |
Casey00 | Posted
on 28-Apr-04 08:51 AM
Lakers are hard team to beat this year but you can NEVER count out the Spurs. I totally fear them!! k_loaded: The agony of American sports is that they are so stats oriented. Even though Bruce Bowen doesn't have the defenisive stats to justify his dominance I still think he is one of the best defenders in the game. The pressure he puts on the opposing player..unbalanced ..tough shots he makes them take...constant pressure .don't go into stats book but it definitely counts.. I can see him being very vital in the next SA vs Lakers series... |
AX | Posted
on 28-Apr-04 09:12 AM
K-loaded says "Bruce Bowen SA spurs(03-40)......1.02 steals/game, .40 blocks/game, 2.5 def reb/game. Now how the hell does such stat qualifies your best defender to be on all defensive first team. See how misleading the stats can be?" I don't think I need to answer your Q. Just go to your last posting para 3 and you find the answer :) I agree with Casey00 about the stats. No doubt, Lakers are good team and I have watched that team more than others. I chose Spurs to win the title in the beginning of the season and I stick with it. Next round: Spurs over Lakers (4-2) Stop making the comment just looking at the stats. Start to watch the other teams as well and you will find out how good/bad are other teams and players. |
ProudNepali | Posted
on 28-Apr-04 02:05 PM
Lakers and Spurs are both good. Wolves are better. Kings are the best. People mgiht think I am crazy but just look the way they played last few games. It will be so hard for anyone not to appreciate what they have achieved so far. Oh yeah.... they are banged up.. like the way they were in regular season. Yet, they find ways to win and get the task get done. You think they play no D--- Now you will rethink again. THey shut down the Mavs. the highest scoring team in regular season well under 90 point per game. More than that they were able to beat Dallas, the team with the best home court record in regular season with 36-5 in a very intense match. None of the starters played up to their potentials. Yet, they won. Anyone can talk about their inconsistency (as if they do not score enough or defend enough), injuries and lack of KILLer Instinct.. but they will do what they have to. AX bro..... the rockets trader Moochie Norris for Weatherspoon because they wanted to promote their franchise. THey already have two of the leagues' best pt. guards in the form of Mobiley and Francis so there wasn't a need for third one. But they needed a veteran player who can use his size and experience in the half court area..... Got that. So far that has been paying up. Spurs certainly did look like the Defending champions by sweeping Grizzlies. Yet, one has to consider about the Inexperience of the young Grizzlies team. yet, Spurs deserve all the credits in the world. T'Wolves.. boy they struggled againts Nuggest (the No. 8th seed) in their last two games. IT would have easily been a 3 game series by the end of last evening. YEt, the T-wolves get their job done. But, are they confident now that they are a championship winning team..... that is debatable. Despite their scoring leader Rookie Anthony limited to 2 points for the whole game... Nuggets almost got away with the win. IT will be interesting game 5 in minnesota. As of Lakers Vs Rockets.. The series could have easily been 3-1 in favor of the rockets. Boy didn't KOBe struggle the whole series. Yes, he did come out big at occassions but who would have ever expected him to go so quiet? And the dominance of SHaq??? He was cold all the time... with the worst free throw shooting pCt. of his career.. ..... Lakers needed some other help. Thanks to the Mail man. He is the only the consitent player in that rooster. And that Rookie Karim Rush............ damn he came big. So, it will be another interesting game 5. In the EAST. Conf. The pacers and the nEts proved why they were the No. 1 and No.2 seeds consecutively in the regular season. And with Pistons about to claim the series.. the East . Champion will be a big Big HILL to overpass for the West. COnf. Champion. I am still with the KIngs even though they aren't the most promising at the moment. But they do not have to play their best to win this championship. ..... I am not exaggerating.. that's what the whole regular season and the post-season so far says. Go Kings go. Jai nepal |
AX | Posted
on 28-Apr-04 02:30 PM
Proud bro said "Spurs certainly did look like the Defending champions by sweeping Grizzlies. Yet, one has to consider about the Inexperience of the young Grizzlies team." I am surprised to see here that people are discounting SPURS. The don't give enough credit to SPURS when they swept the series yeah they were playing inexperienced team. but what about Lakers and Wolves (which you call a great team)?? Aren't they playing inexperienced Rockets and Nuggs?? go SPURS go!!! |
AX | Posted
on 28-Apr-04 02:33 PM
Proud bro, your team Celts just hired Doc Rivers. what do you think of DOC? I was really hoping Ainge would hire Paul Westpaul. Paul used to be my best coach, when he was with Phoenix. |
k_loaded | Posted
on 28-Apr-04 02:33 PM
"Stop making coments just looking at the stats"........Thats just what i am trying to tell you when you said......"no need to feel the page with what Kobe can do, we all know what about it. and I can find his stat at www.nba.com". Please read it carefully. Casey00: I understand that american sports are so stat oriented. The reason i gave bowens stats is just to prove your (and mine) point how insignificant and misleading the stats can be. Ironically, some people love to revolve around those stats. Proud Nepali has made an interesting point here. To paraphase what he said.......Kobe so far has struggled the whole series, shaq's cold thru out the series, and as rusty points payton and fisher not playing well.........Put all these things together and lakers are still up 3-1 against Rockets, yaoland, one of the best defensive team or whatever you call it. Now how many team can afford to do that. Thats how tough Lakers are. Now that dont mean other team cant compete. Think about it. peace |
AX | Posted
on 28-Apr-04 02:36 PM
Yes K_loaded, you are sooooo right about Rockets. They should be the greatest team ever seeded #7, NO? |
k_loaded | Posted
on 29-Apr-04 05:15 AM
NO!!!........happy? |
Casey00 | Posted
on 29-Apr-04 08:25 AM
Title contenders for '04 Kings: Although they are playing betterdefense against the Dallas, I still dont have much faith on them. As far as playoffs are concerned you need some big time clutch players..usually its ur best player on the team. But again Webber is not one of those players who likes to take big shots..so I dont know if that will help. For them to advance further they will have to play good defense as a team. X-FACTOR: Doug Christie, a defensive star but when he comes out and scores points ..his team seems to do better..One of those guys on the court who could contribute in some many ways. Wolves: They looked shaky, tired and nervous in game 3..but they won a close game in game 4 so for now they are alright..but again if CArmelo dint have a bad night..Wolves would have easily lost...For them to advance...KG needs to be KG....and thats almost automatic.. and the supporting cast should shoot the ball well...they have a great team and I wish they would use Kandi Man more than often... X-Factor: Sprewell...his outside shooting can change the game...watch out for him...big time player. Lakers: 4 hall of famers..and some good young players..For them to win they need to be close to being themselves..Bryant went crazy last night...but dont you think it was Malone who looked more intimidating since game 3? X-Factor:Payton has had a quiet series so far..he might be due soon...too good of a player to be ot of form for long period of time. Spurs: great defense...super unselfish superstar in Duncan....great supporting cast..young PG in Parker..for them to advance they need to play like they have been doing...or maybe better since its the Lakers they are facing.. X-Factor: Manu has that vigor, which makes him so good..he makes thing happen...although he is not a legitimate star...he can definitely get 30 point night.. Pacers: Best record..great team...some good young players...they cant lose focus...will advance deep if they play with same intensity. X-factor:Jeff Foster..doesnt have a great number but grabs many offensive rebounds..which is very ciritical..a hussle player. My pick is LAKERS. |
ProudNepali | Posted
on 29-Apr-04 08:41 AM
Oh Yeah ABsolutely, NO doubt about it. Paul had a good resume to be considered for the coaching job here in Beantown. Hey..... DOc Rivers is a big prospect in himself. At the moment Celtics and Magics are about the same team. Just that Celtics did bit better. They have T-MAC we Have Paul Pierce. But.... with LaFRenz healthy and 3 (I am not sure maybe it's two) First Round Draft picks the Celtics can really built a good rooster for the upcoming season. As of the coaching job... I were really rooting for..... damn I forgot his name.... here it is! BYRON SCOTT... I thought BYron can really do the similar things with the Celtics.. like what he did with the NETS. Still DOC Rivers have a winning record as a coach. It was so unfortunate about the MAgicS organization to fire him with just 11 game gone in the season. There wasn't much for him to do in ORlando because Grant HIll is injured.... MIke Miller a promising new prospect woh tuned up well with T-MAC was traded in the off-season. So T-MAC was a lone star. You can take ORlando Magics to be the Texas Rangers of MLB with A-ROD alone. YEt, DOC Rivers did a really great job there in ORlando prior to last couple of seasons. He also won the COach of the year award in his first year tenure at ORlando. We all hope he can bring the same venom here in Beantown. It has been sometimes since Celtics had won anything. I see Celtics going to the NBA championship series in next 2 years. I really like our chances with DOC. He is a proven coach. And as the first GOOG thing.... He admires RICKY DAvIs. He had made comments about RIcky's potential. He is just 24 and he has lot of years left behind him. ANd Doc Rivers can certainly be the COACH that can make RICky more disclipined and take the best out of him. You See Beantown is getting a new hope with the coming of DOC Rivers. GO Celtics Go. Jai nepal |
ProudNepali | Posted
on 29-Apr-04 08:52 AM
in the earlier posting!!! AX bro.... I wanted to correct myself. Moochie Norris was traded away because the ROckets brought in veteran Pt. Guard in the form of Marc Jackson. So actually, The Rockets had three solid pt. guards. Yet they wree caught off-guard. THe TUrnovers killed them. One could have wished Yao played more aggressively. Yet Rockets did some good thins in the games before last night. This series had made Shaq tougher I guess. With the biggest head-to-head matchup .. Yao Ming out of the playofff contention... SHaq will have fairly better looks for the baskets. I still like The KIngs. The Wolves won ugly!! To Name the CLutch Player for the KINGs CASey00 bro.. it gotta be Mike BIbby. He is arguably amongst the best in NBA. IF BRad Miller and Vlade Divac play quite close to how they played before the arrival of Webber in the lineup.... the Kings can give hard times to any teams in this league. Good players pick up their rhythm at good times. Do not underestimate them. GO NBA GO jai Nepal |
Casey00 | Posted
on 29-Apr-04 09:45 AM
Mike Bibby is definitely a good clutch player but I would like to see Webber be more aggressive..well he has had his share of injuries..but he is the best player in the their team..right? Seeing them blow Pacific division title was saddening...I mean all they needed to do was win that game against the Warriors I believe...and heroics of Bryant wouldnt even have counted...I think Kings have a great regular season team..I dont believe they are as strong mentally in the playoffs...Divac is getting old...Miller's game hasnt ben quite the same since webber came back...but again they are a good team..u never know.. |
AX | Posted
on 29-Apr-04 10:05 AM
Great win for the Lakers last nite. They looked impressive in the 2nd half. Kobe played great. He looked exhausted and still played marvelous game. He scored game high 37 points to go with 5 rebounds and 6 assists even after all the travel (LA-Denver-LA in less than 24 hours). Malone had a good game; Shaq and Payton were not themselves. They will face defending Champion San Antonio Lakers in next round. Lakers were eliminated by Spurs last year in west semis. These 2 teams have won last 5 championships Lakers played great defensive series versus Rockets. But they have to play better than that to beat out Spurs. Lakers does not guard position 1 (PG) and 3 (SF) positions well. It will be interesting to see how Lakers going to guard international tandem of Parker with Manu and Torkoglu. Tim Duncan is no Cato or Taylor, so Malone need to work very hard to get the same nos. as he had with Lakers. Head to head match up: Parker vs. Payton - edge to Parker (Spurs); Parker is too fast to handle Bowen vs. Kobe - edge to Kobe (Lakers); Kobe will have his nos. Manu vs. George - Manu (Spurs); George is not consistent Duncan vs. Malone - Duncan (Spurs); last 2 time MVP TD is unstoppable Rose vs. Shaq - Shaq (Lakers); Shaq is hard to contained unless his injury Bench Players Horry/Torkoglu/Willis/Nesterovic vs. Fox/Fisher/Rush/Slava - edge to Spurs Coach Povovich vs. Jackson - edge to Jackson (Lakers) |
Go_Lakerssssssssssss | Posted
on 29-Apr-04 10:06 AM
Go_Lakerssssssssssss who is you daddy??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ![]() |
AX | Posted
on 29-Apr-04 10:11 AM
Proud bro, I am surprised that you wanted to see Byron as next coach. I don't know you know or not, he used to play for Lakers. I thought Celts fans hate Lakers, I might be wrong. He was one of the sharp shooter Lakers who denied Bird's Celtics. I am not sure what Ainge is doing in Beantown. I liked him as a player (when with Phoenix) and as a broadcaster. I still think he made a mistake trading away Walker. The only good player they have now is Pierce. He is a superstar in the league. Ainge needs to find another superstar to complement Pierce. Ricky is a selfish player and he can blow up anytime (if he does not get his mins.) and he is not a good teammate. LaFrentz won't cut out as a center, injury may have to do a lot with his bad season. aru ko ko khelcha thaha pani chaina :s They should draft a good PG and trade for a big body (Antanio David/Dale Davis???) Doc is a good coach but Westpaul is better. |
AX | Posted
on 29-Apr-04 10:12 AM
Casey00 said "I would like to see Webber be more aggressive..well he has had his share of injuries.but he is the best player in the their team..right" He sure is the best player in the KINGS uniform. I think Cuban does not know that CWEBB loves green. Show him the money and he will loose the game for you. Rem the timeout (not having one) and passing the ball at the end of the game while playing against Lakers (was going to win the series)??? |
aakash | Posted
on 29-Apr-04 11:54 AM
Lakers in game 6!!!!! |
ProudNepali | Posted
on 30-Apr-04 10:24 AM
Yeah AX Bro..DANny Ainge had done some surprising things this season. Oh yeah The CEltics need a change.. we were a good team but we have to get better. Walker's going away was a heartbreaker to the BEANToWn people. LAfrenz was doing good things (and we were winning) when he was playing. But.. .. he has to go through surgery. So, a trade-off had to be made. This season was to be sacrificed in the hope of a much better season next year. Still Walker is a better player than LAfrenz. But hey.. Lafrenz is still young and have bunch of years left behind him. HE is (I guess not J'O'Neal) the tallest center in Eastern Conference so that can be a huge advantage. Atkins, the midseason acquisition had shown some promises. But I am very hopeful of our Rookie M. BANks. He can dribble, drive and score. He is a big kid for a pt. guard position. Now he has a play-off experiene also. So, pt. Guard position is not really a big problem for us. We can trade/draft one in the first round. We have Pierce, arguably amongst the best in the league in PF position, so we can rely on him for few more years if he remains healthy. Ricky Davis is an explosive, talented and an aggressive player. A good coach can really make him better. See.. he and Pierce had been getting alone like brothers. That's a very good sign. M. Blount did better this season. I have seen some rooms for him to grow. He is strong and tall. If he can add some quickness to his already proven Rebounding and short blocking skills he can do some surprise. We love McCarthy.. but I guess the Celtics might not sign him again. He might be traded alongside, Chris Mihm, Welsch and others. Welsch did some good things with the Celtics this season. We would love to have him in our rooster since he is a good player coming out of bench. Yet, we gotta acquire someone who can play better D- and of a good size. With all these combined.. Celtics do look better next season. So, Ainge had taken a huge risk. celtics was a very good team-it still is, yet not a CHAMPIONship winning team. The PRide of Celtics is not just going to PLay-offs but to win championship. So, it is understandable that Ainge did some surprising things to turn the Celtics into a CHampionship team. If Celtics do not fare better in the next two seasons... Ainge WILL BE in the HotSeat. GO CEltics go. (TotallyCeltics) Jai NEpal |
AX | Posted
on 30-Apr-04 10:49 AM
Last nite game between Kings and Mavs was one of the best so far this season. It was a shootout. Nash and Bibby were making unstoppable. Finally we got to see the game what all the people have thought of. I was hoping to see more games between them. It's too bad to see Mavs loosing in the first round. With having one of the highest payrolls in the league, MAVS lost in 1st round with better team. It's time for coach Nellie to retire. I think Cuban will overhaul the team. It seems only Nash and Nowitzki are the only untradable players. Bunch of A- and B+ players are not enuf to win in the Western Conference; they should have learnt the lesson from Portland Blazers. All the players in MAVS uniform are great shooter but the team lack a guy who plays defense and can rebound. They need to get someone who can play defense and block in the middle (is there any in the league??) It will be interesting to see what Cuban will do. |
AX | Posted
on 30-Apr-04 11:41 AM
Prep point guard to announce intentions ESPN.com news services Sebastian Telfair, the New York City high school point guard who had committed to play for Rick Pitino at Louisville, is expected to declare for the NBA draft sometime next week. "It's a foregone conclusion that he's going to go pro," Louisville assistant Vince Taylor told ESPN.com. "We're prepared not to have him." Telfair already has signed with an agent, Newsday reported, and he'll sign a multiyear endorsement deal with one of the three major sneaker companies, a source told the newspaper. During his senior season at Lincoln, Telfair -- a cousin of of the Knicks' Stephon Marbury -- broke Kenny Anderson's New York state scoring record. He's also appeared on the cover of Sports Illustrated and is being heralded as the first point guard to make the high school-to-NBA jump. The deadline for prep players and college underclassmen to enter the draft is May 10. Telfair is now in Greece working out with his older brother Jamel Thomas, Telfair's father, Otis, told Newsday. Thomas played for Providence College and plays professionally in Europe. "All I know is something's going off next week," Otis Telfair told Newsday on Wednesday night ******************************* DWI, what do you think of his decision? I thought you being in NY would have more insight :) what are Daily News and NY Post are saying about his decision? I would rather have see him go to College and learn more about basketball from Pitino than jumping straight to NBA. He is a under size Point Guard and PG is the toughest position to play in NBA. I have seen lots of good Point Guards who left college early are busted in NBA likes of William Avery from Duke and Keyon Dooling from Missouri and Omar Cook from St. Johns. I think he is making a big mistake not going to college but rumor has it he signed a contract with Adidas. Adidas offered him so huge contract that he could not say NO. |
Rusty | Posted
on 30-Apr-04 11:46 AM
Spurs will lose the first game since they got break for long time after they swept the Griz. The lakers are still in their rhythm. Lakers in game 6... |
AX | Posted
on 30-Apr-04 11:51 AM
Rusty bro, that's what I am worried about, Spurs have not played for sometime now. Good team should not have any excuse to loose the game at home court. Let's see how it goes..... Is TD a better free throw shooter that Shaq? go SPURS go!!! |
Casey00 | Posted
on 30-Apr-04 12:45 PM
AX bro, I have always been great fan of Nelson and the Mavs but I really din't agree their last offseason trade moves. Here are reasons why.. MAVS were awesome last year: They started winning more than 13-14 games with great team chemistry, which was rarely seen this year. They played well to get it to the WEstern Conf finals where they had their chances to win..I mean Dirk got injured in game 3 or 4 and they lost their way..but again ..they were so close..I still to this day think that if Dirk wasnt injured the result could have been different...Accomplishing that much..I dont see why they traded half the team..maybe they got tempted to win it all...so sad..impatient. WHY VAN EXEL?????? Jamison has done a great job..not taking anything away from him..But trading Van Exel was questionable who was so instrumental in MAvs destroying the Kings.last season.......Just look at the record..this playoff...3 of Mavs loses came down to last possession, which ofcourse they lost em all...I mean ..right there u need Van Exel.!! Cuban must be pullling his hair off.. Mavs played great but they had too many turnovers last night...Esp Walker travelling....atleast twice during the last mins..I was so pissed as I am big time fan of Dallas and the super exciting Canadian..Nash. |
AX | Posted
on 30-Apr-04 01:02 PM
I am with you Casey00, I did not understand why they traded Van Axel for Jamison. Van Axel is retiring else it be one of the TX team (dallas has a chance getting back him) About Cuban getting Tonie was LaFrentz huge contract. Cuban thinks he overpaid undersized LaFrentz, and have 5 years(?) left on his contract. Now Tonie has only 1 year left with 14 mil(?) and easier to trade than other players. I like Tonie as a player, he is a big man who can shoot from outside. Trade with Pistons for R. Wallace? That way Wallace will be able to bank more money. How about this? dunno about erick dampier's availability (they can trade tonite for him if under contract) ---------- Nash (PG) ------- Finely (SG) --- Nowitzki (SF) ---------------- Rasheed Wallace (PF) ------------------ Erick Dampier (C) ----------------------- Trade away Jamison too. Shawn, will you please retire? You are disgrace to a NBA. Najera and two rookies as a sub player (bench) |
aakash | Posted
on 30-Apr-04 01:15 PM
hey rusty....I heard about Knicks trying to get KOBE and McGrady both!!! i wonder........joke gareko hola...dunno..but i did hear this thing!!! do some research guys! |
Casey00 | Posted
on 30-Apr-04 01:44 PM
Yes AX, I am sure Rasheed won't be staying at Detroit unless they win a championship. Walker is more than sure to be traded...I assume most prolly to Eastern Conf team..I think Jamison will be taken by Bobcats since they are expanding franchise...I see lot of trade happening this year. ABout Nash..I hope he somehow lands here in TORONTO.. to play for Canada..Althought he is a premier point guard ..he isnt making lot of money.. so I am sure he will try to negotiate...with Mavs. KOBE AND MCGRADY: are u kidding me? To get those players..they would have to trade almost everybody..plus both of would like to be man in respective team so its rare that it will happen ..Plus Lakers are the only team that will offer him maximun money..This is how I see it ..if Lakers win championship and Payton and Malone go somewhere else..or retire....this will be KOBE's team..since Shaq will be slowing down..so KOBE still very young will have around 6-7 years to built his own legacy..this way he can achieve lot of things...But as unpredictable as Kobe is..he might actually opt out of his contract and ho somewhere else...Most likely to Nuggets. |
AX | Posted
on 30-Apr-04 02:34 PM
aakash, how long have you been watching NBA? no offense, what you just said does not make sense at all. They both play same position and have similar style. And it will cost Knicks around $30 Mil combine. forget about getting two superstars. Knicks won't even be able to sign mediocre player. The Knicks' payroll for 03-04 seasons was $89 million. They're committed to $69 million in contracts next year which is about $23 million over the projected cap. There are no fools in the NBA who is going to acquire overpaid Knicks players. Here's the rough salary of Knicks players for next year ( i could be wrong) Marbury - $14 Mil Penny - $17.5 Mil Houston – $18 Mil They already have a good team. ------- Marbury (PG) ----------------------- Houston (SG) --------------Anderson (SF)--------- Thomas (PF) ------------------------Mohamad (C) ---------------------- They can upgrade SF position, but who will take overpaid Anderson? |
AX | Posted
on 30-Apr-04 02:48 PM
Casey00, here's what I think will happen. Lakers and Clippers will do sign and trade. Clippers's shooting gaurd Q. Richardson is a restricted free agent and he is pretty good. Both team will sign them and swap players. That way Kobe will get to play with his buddy C. Maggette and won't have to leave LA. If Kings looses the next round, McGrady can windup with KINGS. How about Peja S. and Bobby Jackson for McGrady? I am sure Magic won't be able to say NO with two really good players for one. Nash is the heart n soul of the MAVS. I don't see him leaving MAVS anytime soon. He is one of the premier point guards in the league. He is for sure going to opt out from his contract (i don't blame him). I think he made $5.75 Million(???) this year and he could demand around $11Million a year. |
Casey00 | Posted
on 30-Apr-04 11:08 PM
Going to Clippers might be a possibility but wouldnt it make more sense for him to actually leave Los Angeles aka La la la altogether to be somewhere else? Having said that I think it would definitely be good for basketball if Kobe decides to play for the clippers..as unnoticed and underachieved as the Clippers have been cuz of the Lakers..I think KObe will definitely change that and bring those two franchises on same level...well..that will be the talk of the summer..BUT I really want KOBE to go to eastern conference team....Hawks might be the front runners.. Anyway whatever happens next year..I hope eastern Conference team will be more interesting to watch...they are good team in there but freaking boring and havent been able to win championship since Jordan era... |
k_loaded | Posted
on 01-May-04 06:00 AM
Casey00......the thing is there wont be no east and west starting next season. They are making it 6 division with five team on each(???). I dont think kobe is going to opt out. why? Money factor!!! Plus he knows shaq will no more be as dominant factor as he used to be(hate to admit it). Ax.....i am not sure if R.wallace will leave the pistons(or pistons giving up on him) .....but if Mavs can add Dampier while saving Nasty.....Texas will be the toughest division next sesion. As for next series goes........... Lakers in six wolves in five. Just a prediction. |
DcKeTa | Posted
on 01-May-04 07:19 AM
Here I come again.. Go Lakers.... Lakers in 6 games. Here is my prediction.. 1st game -- Lakers win 2nd game -- spurs win 3rd game-- Lakers win 4th game -- Lakers win 5th game -- Spurs win 6th game-- Lakers win Kobe 22 ppg, Payton 7 ppg, shaq 17 ppg, Malone 15 ppg Well last season Bowen did really wonderful job guarding KOBE but that is not going to work this season, Spurs are good in PICK n ROLL but Lakers are ready for counter attack. Phil's triangular Offense will make some impact on Spurs Defense but KOBE's aggresiveness will cost them a lot. TD will have his great season, parker fast but cant be furious this time. Manu fine player but we will see whether he will stand to the expectation. Rick FOX please take a break, have some confidence in the shot you taking.. George and RUSH will play big role in LAKERS bench. Bottom Line GO Lakers.. Cheers |
ProudNepali | Posted
on 01-May-04 09:12 AM
Interesting Stuffs GUys!!! Rade Rumors are always there. It is sure that if Lakers win it all this season "Malone and Payton" will retire. If not the Lakers ORganization will be a big mess. SHaq and Malone had developed really good realtionship. IF Malone chose to go to a different team, it is almost certain that Shaq will follow him also. Maybe Big Daddy should go back to ORlando.... and bring some life back in Orlando. ANd there he already have T-MAC in the form of another KOBR Bryant. But it is so unlikely that the LAkers will let him go. BRyant had said that he would love to play for the NUggets, yet that doesn't mean Denver is the first priority in his wish list. Bryant will definitely test the FRee AgENT market and will negotiate amongst the teams asking him a huge contract and the teams he wanted to play for the most. In this Category, I will put the Clippers as the FRONT runner. Clippers are already a talented team. All they need is a big time clutch player. oH yeah Maggeties, Elton Brand and others are very talented. With the coming of KObe they will get even better. IT is very unlikely that T_MAC will be traded. T-MAC is ORlando's FRanchise player. I will be surprised if T-MAC gets traded. It is the same scenario as in PHiladelphia. Remember AI...? These teams won't trade their franchise players, rather they will try to add supporting casts for them. PEJA and Bobby for T-MAC will be asking for too much. MAybe T-MAc and first or second round draft pick is reasonable. But hey.... since the Kings already have Mike-Bibby, B. Jackson (healthy next season), and A. Peeler as true pt. guards, they don't need T-MAC (who can self-create shots). They can rely on Peja because there will always be one of their pt. guards playing, who is capable of distributing the balls. C. Webb is their franchise player so, trading him will be out of imagination. By the way, a healthy webber is a starting ALL-Star. They might trade (or retire) Divac, Songaila, and others to acquire a big Center. This center will be a back-up for Miller and Webber. I see Kings as a very very good team. Given that all of the players are healthy..... they can beat all the teams in the league. Dallas will definitely make some off-season moves. Nelly will be there, he is a very good coach. Just that he didn't have defense minded players in his rooster. Do not forget DAllas is the best offensive rebounding team in the NBA. All they need is throw down some bodies in the Center position. I do not know which ones for sure. If they can get "Sharif Abdur Rahim" from Portland and sent Antowaine there, Dallas lineup will look really solid. Sharif Abdur is a very good defensive player and he is equally good at scoring. With Latlif, and I forgot his name.. doing good in the center, Abdur is likely to be traded. I do not see R.WAllace being traded away by Pistons. LArry Brown will never make such moves. So, I do not envision R. Wallace going to DALLAs. WOuld have been a very good move but, very unlikely. Pistons will be trying to get Good Forwards. Not that they do not have any, but they will try to get some. They are not a very good offensive team. And by the way Darko will be playing big time next season. Damn.. Pistons are just getting better and better. This much for now. Jai Nepal |
yOuNgBlOoDz | Posted
on 01-May-04 09:31 AM
the LAKERS N SPURS series the way i see it won't last longer then 5 or 6 games n spurs will be heading for conference finals periiod... lakers can beat anyone except spurs....... yb |
AX | Posted
on 01-May-04 09:35 AM
dcKeTa says "Well last season Bowen did really wonderful job guarding KOBE but that is not going to work this season" >>> will you please tell me why it won't wory? Is Bowen injured or his defensive skills are down??? Spurs are good in PICK n ROLL but Lakers are ready for counter attack. >>> Shaq played good defensive game with Rockets but they were having hard time with Rockets' pick n roll. you said Lakers are ready for counter attack, are you saing Lakers are pick n roll team?? I thought Zen Master emphasizes on traingular offense and Payton is not hapopy about it. Phil's triangular Offense will make some impact on Spurs Defense but KOBE's aggresiveness will cost them a lot. >>> I will buy that if Kobe won't have good game, the game won't be even close. TD will have his great season, parker fast but cant be furious this time. >>> I think Parker was the prime reason Spurs were able to sweep Grizzlies. He is playing the best and he is only 21 years old. Manu fine player but we will see whether he will stand to the expectation. >>> We can talk as much about the superstars and their matchup. I think Manu will be the one to decide the series. Who will gaurd Manu??? Kobe 22 ppg, Payton 7 ppg, shaq 17 ppg, Malone 15 ppg I added the nos and it's 61. will that be enuf to beat Spurs? who else will contribute from Lakers? I believe that Spurs avg score will be around 89 ppg. k_loaded said "Ax.....i am not sure if R.wallace will leave the pistons(or pistons giving up on him)" He is n unrestricted free agent that was the reason Blazers traded him. NYC is bigger market for him and Dallas can pay him more than anybody else. about the prediction: Spurs in 6 :) go SPURS go!!! |
ProudNepali | Posted
on 01-May-04 09:37 AM
Actually, MAgics can pick My man Mehmet Okafur as the first overall Draft PICK/ And bingo... NY will be big mess too. With all the salary caps and highly paid players...all they did was get swept by NJ in the first round. ANd do not forget... with the NEts moving to NY (Brookline) next season, NY KNICKS will certainly make moves so as to be the better team in the Empire state. AnD ISah THomas will do whatever it takes to make their franchise stronger. mIami have enough of growing prospects. Hornets needs a good CF. Atlanta.................. god help them. Cavs will certainly go to playoffs next season. CHicago.... I guess their young team can do some better things this season. With good drafts and J. Williams healthy they can do a lot better. Mercy to the Wizards, even with MJ and Charles barkley coming back from retirement will be not enough to advance to the post-season. (Not saying those two hall of famers are coming back but just saying how weak the wizards are) Actually, Sixers, Dallas, Celtics etc. should try to acquire AL HArrington from PAcers, which is so eager to transfer and get the starting jobs. He is too good of a talent to sit in the bench. If you compare J'O'Neals stats with AL Harrington's they do not look that different. Harrington comes off the bench and gives DOUBLE-DOUBLe. Actually in their series against US (Celtics), Harrington grabbed more rebounds, and coming off the bench, than J'O'Neal did. That dude is really quick, strong and extremely talented. And he is very young. GO NBA GO. JAI Nepal |
Casey00 | Posted
on 01-May-04 09:45 AM
Yes, if the Lakers don't with championship this year then there will be lot of house cleaning to do. I believe it was Malone and Payton who are having good relationship not Shaq and Malone. I was reading somewhere that Payton will follow Malone whereever he goes next year. There is no reason for Shaq to leave Lakers..he is the big daddy there..he is the MAN...unless traded he would be the last person to leave.. Kobe will test the free agency but again I see him with Lakers...cuz they are the ones who can offer him maximum money..plus the colorado case has hurt his reputation but it won't ruin his career..I am sure he will come out clean...cuz first of all I don't see why he would rape that girl ..if he has 1000's of girls running around him...Kobe is liked by many female fans so I dont belive he raped her...unless he was drugged up or something..anyway he committed adultery and he is not alone.. I won't say that T-MAC is untouchable...they guy constantly whines alot...He dint want to be second fiddle here in Toronto to his cousin Carter and went to Orlando..now he is complaining that he doesnt have enough good people around him..I mean ..please play some ball....I think MAC wants to make more money..thats abt it.. As for AI..I think he should be traded..last season was total disaster for him....anyone remember him telling that he dint wanna come off the bench...u call that a LEADER!!...imagine what other bench players were thinking ??? he was making them look like stinkers....geez..... if I was GM of sixers..I would really ttry to trade AI and some other good player for KOBE....what better way to bring home boy to hometown...I think there is a possibility for that.. R.Wallace will have to go through huge pay cut if he wants to stay in Detroit..he is making huge salary this year..and Pistons arent known from huge contracts so there is a possibilty he willg o somewhere else... |
AX | Posted
on 01-May-04 09:49 AM
Proud bro said SHaq and Malone had developed really good realtionship. IF Malone chose to go to a different team, it is almost certain that Shaq will follow him also. Maybe Big Daddy should go back to ORlando.... and bring some life back in Orlando. ANd there he already have T-MAC in the form of another KOBR Bryant" >>> bro do you know that Shaq is still under contract till next year and he gets paid around 20 Mil a year. Regarding KINGS, i said the trade is plausible if only KINZGS looses. They have the same team last 4-5 years (main players) that is the reason I said they need to break up. don't you think following lineup will be tough to beat? -----Bibby (PG) ------------------------- TMAC (SG) ----------- Christy(SF)------- Webber (PF)--------- ----------------------- Miller(C)-------------------- they will have Peeler, Divac, Sognlaia(?) coming off the bench Shareef is a good role player and he plays Power Forward position. He has maxed out contract and who will like to have it? Because of his copntract Hawks traded him away. He is good with Blazers and they will make a buzz next year. YB bro thanks for supporting SPURS ;) go SPURS go!!! |
Casey00 | Posted
on 01-May-04 09:50 AM
ProudNepali.. "Actually, MAgics can pick My man Mehmet Okafur as the first overall Draft PICK/ And bingo.." When you said Mehmet Okafor I was like whutt!! who is this player...????? I was like I should watch NBA more.. maybe a cross breed between Mehmet Okur and Emeka Okafor??? Emeka Okafor will prolly go top 3 but he won't be playing true center in NBA..he is more like a Power FOrward for NBA..so I don't know if Magic will select him. |
AX | Posted
on 01-May-04 10:08 AM
Proud bro where did you get the info about the NEts moving to NY (Brookline) next season??? I don't think brooklyn has any basketball court where NETS can play or they can play in 5-6000 capacity court and loose money :) Okafur was the best player in the College and helped UCONN to wint he championship. I don't think he iwll be dominant player like TD or CWEBB in the NBA. he will e a good role player. He may drafted #1 overall but how sure are we that Magics going to have #1 pick? and Magic have a good power forward name Juwan Howard already. I hear the kid name Dwight Howard is better than Okafur as a talentwise(both plays pf position) it will be intresting to see who will be drafted #1 overall. who is the toal bust in NBA who got drafted#1 overall??? A. Joe Smith (plays for BUCKS, Warriors drafted him) B. Kwame Brown (with Wizards) C. Michael Olakwandi (Plays for Wolves, Clippers drafted him) D. GLen Robinson (plays for 76ers, Bucks drafted him) |
Casey00 | Posted
on 01-May-04 10:21 AM
AX bro...few months ago..all star weekend ..they did interview with Jay-Z and he was telling that he wants to take Nets to Brooklyn..so I think its a possibilty if Jay-Z bought the Nets..No matter how good the Nets are..they arent making money so ..I think they will relocate. Biggest Bust so far has to be... 1. Kandi 2. Kwame 3. smith and 4 Robinson...in that order.. Kandi: there were so many good players taken after him...Carter..Nowitzki..Pierce..all of them superstar...matter of fact all the other top 10 picks except Robert Traylor have better stats than Kandi man.. Kwame: If Jordan cant teach you..no one can...well but he is so young..still 21 and jsut few years out of high school..he has a great potential..but poeple constantly tell tht he lacks work ethic...so we will see...I see him being someone like Jermaine Oneal when he matures. Smith: a role player now but again ..u dont need to be first overall to be that...totally wasted being a number one.. Robinson: Big dog is ok player again..not worth it for number one pick... |
AX | Posted
on 01-May-04 10:30 AM
I disagree with Casey00 (is it first time?) I think AI should be in starting lineup at that time. I think Interim coach Ford was tryign to send some msg to AI and too bad, it cost him a job. Ford was outta his mind not starting AI, they could have been in the playoff. Pat Croce (76ers' ex president) said that 76ers have a rule where the starting players won't lose their starting job because of injury. Ford could have gone to AI and asked him if he wanted to come off the bench. there was no communication between them so I blame the coach. And about Kobe, we all can have our own opinion about it. It's not an excuse that the ball players can sleep whoever they want. There could be thousands of girls who might be after him, but she could not be the one amongst them. I will leave upon US justice system what Kobe deserves or not. I used to have a great respect for him bust since that day I don't like him. He is a great player with no moral value. You guys need to read recent issue of SI, you will learn more dark side of Kobe. what you guys think of Jayson Williams??? is he going to serve any jail time??? as more as I live in US, I start to lose faith in US justice system. MONEY TALKS (be it in Nepal or US) |
ProudNepali | Posted
on 01-May-04 10:31 AM
AX bro.. I heard it from The NEts new owner: Jay J. in few interviews. He is from Brookline and he said he wants to take the team to his home town. Thanks for the COrrection Casey00 bro, I always confuse their names. I see Okafur as the best option for Magics. The other top draft picks will be pt. guards or shooting guards, Okafur will give a low-post presence. Not straight in his first season..... but in later season.. he will come big. As of Shaq and Malone's realtionships people: It was posted a weeek back in one of the articles is Lakers' home page and a ESPN anchor did mention that also. IT is very true that Payton and Malone are having good relations amongst themselves also. Shaq is eligble for negotiations I gues.. I might be wrong though. There is a good chance that Phil Jackson will retire also. I am sure in this post-season, Lakers will miss Robert Horry. HE is the one who had been doing the jobs at the end of the games. Damn his three-pointers killed Kings and almost had the Spurs on their knees last season. besides, he is a very good defensive player also. Jai Nepal |
AX | Posted
on 01-May-04 10:41 AM
I agree with you Casey00 bro, NETS going to play in Brooklyn in future. I think they already have the plan where to build the sports arena. I think it’s little far fetched when you say next year. I could be wrong. How much owners are paying for it? How much it’s going to cost the taxpayers? I am glad I am not in New York anymore and I don’t have to pay a dime for New Jersey Nets. I never liked them and never will. How many of you know that NETS leader JKIDD is a wife beater? about the players who drafted #1 and got bust. I may put Kwame #1 but he has just played 2 seasons, he ia great potential to be a good player. I hope he proves us wrong. That's why I am totally against the kids jumping directly from High school to NBA. |
AX | Posted
on 01-May-04 10:48 AM
Proud bro you are right about Horry. he is averaging 11 ppg and 8 rpg(?) in the playoffs for SPURS now :) do you guys watch horse racing too? kentucky derby cha, which horse do you like? good luck with your pick ajo ko laagi pugyo molai enjoy the great sports weekend frens |
Casey00 | Posted
on 01-May-04 11:44 AM
Yes AX bro..it is the first that time we are having different opinions..in this case About Allen Iverson.. I have always been big fan of Allen Iverson but again I think there is a difference between a good player and a great player. Good player gets great stats, plays in night out and night in..Great player also does those things but he is also a team leader..someone who always keeps the team chemistry..someone who is always supportive of the team and also not expose the team issues to the outsiders..Iverson could have sorted out the differences with the coach..he shuoldnt have been that vocal...He is good enough to start for any NBA team and we all know that...so why bring his ego just cuz he was benched? Also Iverson is one of those guys who at times HAS BEEN SKIPPING PRACTICES..Brown had problem with it ..and who knows...even Ford might have gone through that.. Brown was a perfect guy to mentor AI but he also knew that if he had to win a championship he had to go somewhere else... Yes,ur right AX that the girl could be speaking the truth and the "judicial system" should be the one responsible for making decisions..and yes I know I shouldnt stereotype those kind of females..But this is the same judicial system that decided that OJ was not guilty..I am not saying I dont have faith in the system but at times I am also skeptical..However it is .I really hope truth comes out..PLus KObe wasnt the first superstar to commit adultery .Jordan did it ..but he was smart enough to hide it until the dawn of his career..that way he made sure his career wasnt ruined....Now along KOBE there is also rumour going around that David Beckham also has committed adultery..I mean..I dont blame those guys really...they have so many options..and they are human..and being that we all want different flavours ..right? lol I watched horse racing...esp...when the Horses are going for triple crown..like last two year...watch it whenever its on NBC..its fun..the boring part if that the race lasts only few minutes .. |
ProudNepali | Posted
on 02-May-04 10:02 PM
Guys what do you think of the LAkers vs. Spurs game!!!! though I had taken the Spurs to be favorite.. for once I Felt that the Lakers are going to take it away. Phil Jackson must have done a really great job in the third quarter (after the halftime) but Greg was able to get his plans above Phil's in the fourth quarter. It was a very intersting and hence highly entertaining match. Despite the low scoring first-half it was very interesting to read the defensive strategies of both the coaches. Certainly, Greg got the better off Phil. I missed the entire third quarter (I had to go to the store), and at the half the Spurs were leading by some 12-14 points (that can be wrong though), more importantly in the Spurs' pace. But when I got back to my tv in the fourht quarter, the Lakers were leading by some 5 points. 67-62. That means Lakers must have had a huge third quarter (it was), so I thought the Lakers will pull it away. Again, at the end of the third qaurter Greg was able to read the plays drawn by Phil, and he planned different schemes. With the great coaching ingenuity and the leadership qualities of the so-youn Parker, the Spurs got the Lakers on their knees. I were excited to see that 21 years old asking TD to run the plays. That was a very determined kid-not afraid to ask the MVP of the league to do as he wished. And.. that payed off well. THis is just the first game.. so not much can be made out of it. Boy.. Bruce Bowen did a hell of job on Kobe.. and nEsterovic over SHaq. It will be very interesting to see if they can continue to do similar tasks. I wonder, if Payton can pick his game and score more often. And now this is what I think: It seems like many teams had been able to read the plays of SHaq and Kobe, hence they are able to defend them. Though Kobe played a big role in 5th game againtst the Rockets he was very quiet in the other games. I won't be surprised if he goes quiet in this series as well. Anywas, more is to be seen. Let me hear what you guys have to say about this series. GO NBA go. Jai Nepal |
AX | Posted
on 02-May-04 10:13 PM
Enjoyed the game very much. Spurs seems little rusty in the beginning of the game( could it be that they got too many days off?). Speedy Spurs were too much to handle for aging Lakers. Malone found out reigning league MVP is no Cato or Maurice Taylor. He played good D but that was not enough. Parker out dueled The Glove. Bowen did terrific job defending Kobe even he was in a foul trouble. Manu played good D and was explosive going to basket but was not that much of a factor as I thought of. I was really impressed with the Parker in this game. He seemed quick and was vocal. Once in a game he was screaming at Tim Duncan for a pick n roll. It was fast up tempo game that Spurs like to play. I don’t know about Lakers. I don’t think Lakers themselves know what they want to do. I thought I will see half court offense and ball going to Shaq more often. With weak center Nesterovic guarding him, I thought he will take all the advantage. I am sure Zen Master will be dumping the ball to Shaq from next game. We all know Shaq requires double team and the defense collapses and he can kick out to the perimeter guys. In the game, I did not see Zen Master even utter a single word to the players. I wonder if he has the control over the team. I have seen him scolding 2nd tier players many times (Slava, Rush, Walton and Kukoc and Kerr while with Bulls). He never says anything to his superstar players. Is he scared of them? Kobe was making really bad shots and he did not say anything to him. He won 9 titles (6-bulls and 3-lakers) with the best players in the NBA. Is he the most over rated coach in the history of NBA? Hoping to see competitive game next time around….. |
k_loaded | Posted
on 03-May-04 09:46 PM
what happened on last game was so uncharacteristic of the Lakers. one feild goal over 8 mins in 4th quater!!! myan! It just seemed like kobe was going to wrap up the game with impressive start in 4th quater. Then??? Well the plays were right......kobe penatrating and trying to leave shaq open. But that extra press by spurs D kept that from happenning. They did good job in denying the ball to shaq. But the way shaq is playing .....its really hard to get him the ball. Shaq no longer puts his huge body in front of the defender as he normally does(dunno why). Rasho did a good job in putting his body in front of shaq.....meaning now the only way to get the ball to shaq is to toss the ball for catch and dunk. And unfortunately he couldnt get hold of it in the first game. Lets see what happens in second game. Go shaq.... Go LAKERS Go. |
AX | Posted
on 04-May-04 07:08 AM
I agree k_loaded, it was sooo uncharacteristic of Lakers. They were playing soooo good in their 11 games streak. It was a fluke that Spurs won the game. There is no team in the league who can beat the team which is loaded with great superstars. Be aware Spurs!!! |
Casey00 | Posted
on 04-May-04 09:56 AM
Somehow Spurs seem to win ..somehow!! They started the game very slowly and then picked it up all the way until half. They again came out little slow in the 3rd quarter when KObe got hot..but when it mattered the most in 4th quarter they played awesome.. The main reason why Lakers lost was turnovers...everytime they fed Shaq the ball..he seemed to lose it..whats up with that???? On the other side..Duncan was coming out of post and making those mid-range jumpers..Lakers had no answer...when u have 4 hall of famers...and u get one field goal in 8 mins..then u know something aint working. People put emphasis on Lakers defense but I think its the offense that Lakers need to worry about..Stopping the Spurs at 87 points in not a bad perfromance but its unacceptable if they score 78.!!..Lakers have two options... 1) Distribute the ball well..get Payton involved...offensively.....distribute shots between all the star players so they have lot of options...and if the game gets close leave it to Kobe to pull out his heroics....2) Lakers could also play two man basketball..like in the previous years..where Kobe and Shaq get most of the shots...Let Shaq dominate the pain ..aggreesively..and Kobe create and amke his own shots..others can fill in the role player spots.. Anyway if Lakers lose the second game it might just be over...its hard to come back 2 down esp when Spurs arent one of those team who go on losing streaks...The scary thought is that Spurs almost look unbeatable....They look really scary..I fear them. |
k_loaded | Posted
on 04-May-04 10:09 AM
Yeah thats just right. Be aware spurs!!! "There is no team in the league who can beat the team which is loaded with great superstars."......thats just tooo dumb. Try something else. |
k_loaded | Posted
on 04-May-04 10:10 AM
GO LAKERS GO. |
ProudNepali | Posted
on 04-May-04 11:53 AM
COme on Guys don't assume that Lakers are unbeatable. They were second in the western Conference standing. Do not forget that. Oh yeah.. when they were all healthy by the end of the regular season... they won like 12-13 games in a row and what happened after that.. they lost like 3 straights and had average records in last 5-8 games. AX bro wrote:" It was a fluke that Spurs won the game. There is no team in the league who can beat the team which is loaded with great superstars. Be aware Spurs!!! Ax bro I know you watch sports and have good idea about the players and the teams in general. Yet, I never thought you will type something like that. Spurs in itself is a bunch of talents/superstars and future super stars. TD is as good as anyone in the league. Tony Parker is a versatile young pt.guard, he is the best in the league beside jason Kidd. As of Manu Ginoboli, all of you know that he was amongst the top 5 (I am not sure the exact rank) most improved player of the year. Bruce Bowen was like 3rd in the defensive player of the year voting (if not 3rd still in top 5). you see TD is in his prime. His supporting casts are closer to their best. As of Lakers: SHaq and KObe are really true superstars. Kobe is in his prime, so is SHaq. But if you look (compare) at Shaq's statistics , you will see that all of his major stat. figures had dropped from last year and the years before. Still he is the most dominant player in the league. And Malone and Payton.. they are playing way below their averages. They are superstars.... but I will put them under the FADING superstars category. And what about the players coming off the bench or the supporting cast for the Lakers?? You see Rick Fox is having the worst season ever in these playoffs and also the regular season. Derek Fisher do not get good enough look at the baskets.. he is a good shooter but he doesn't get to shoot often. Karem Rush showed some flashes in the early goings against The Rockets.. but he is a ROokie and not yet an offensive thread. Junior walton can be much better in the future but not now. Medvedenko: he is about 1/3rd as effective as SHaq, that doesn't help the Lakers cause. On the other hand, Nesterovic had been able to fill up well for RObinson. Kevin BRown is a promising new talent. You bet he is better than K. Rush or D. Fisher coming off the bench. And the Lakers nation are all aware of the defensive as well as the offensive potentials (killer 3pointer) of Robert Horry. Malik Rose is a good defensive substitution. The old man...KEvin Willis knows what to do when he is given some playing minutes. ANd who can forget Hidayet Turkoglu.. he is as good as any substitute in the whole of NBA. See, Spurs have more depth than the Lakers. So, it will be rather stupid to undermine the likes of the Spurs. Lakers struggled against the Rockets, while the Spurs took care of the Grizzlies in a very promising manner. Just follow the stats. and watch the games they had played or are playing and everyone can get their answers. But..... i still favor the Kings. Go NBA go. Jai Nepal |
AX | Posted
on 04-May-04 12:12 PM
Now I get it. All of the sudden Spurs stock is rising. They got buncha great players and their 15 games winning streak was no fluke. They are indeed very good team. Parker is the most underrated Point Guard. He will be starting point guard next year NBA All Star game. You weirdos (sports writers and broadcasters all over the country) when you vote next time rem there is a team called SPURS somewhere down in San Antonio with good defensive player named Bowen and Manu, who comes off the bench. **************************** Miami Heat and New Orleans Hornets are playing decisive game 7 tonite. I like Miami Heat in that matchup. I had not watched that many Heat games before the playoffs, but the kid name Wade seems to be very talented player. I thought C. Butlor was better than what he has shown so far in the playoffs. |
AX | Posted
on 05-May-04 07:51 AM
Finally Heat advanced. Glad to see Caron Butler playing good. He scored team high 23 points to go with 9 rebounds. It was not bad for a rookie coach to advance to the 2nd round who started the season 5-15. Miami is young team with veteran like Eddie Jones and Brian Grant. Lamar Odom having a sensational year, i am sure he is happy with his decision to leave Clippers. They are one player away from being good team. ****************** Great win for KINGS. It seems the MVP Kevin Garnett was so happy to win the trophy that he forgot to play the game. I don't know how much chance Wolves has after loosing 1st game at home court. Kings' 2 best players CWEBB and Peja were 11 for 31, which I don't see it happening again in the series. is that mean it will take another 7 years for Wolves to get to the Western Conference Final??? |
ProudNepali | Posted
on 05-May-04 11:48 PM
For the time being it seems like it AX bro?? Maybe not.... they are a good team and they can certainly bounce back. They just got the monkey offf their back so they have more confidence in themselves. However, kudos to the kings. THey played like the way they have been playing night in and night out. It was good to see C. Webb putting good D against KG. Mike Bibby did a heck of a job shooting the ball. Cassell dropped another 40 points but came off short in winning the game. TO beat the Kings all the big 3 should score 20+.... that's my observation. Seems like C. Webb is getting his confidence back. A back to back block shots in a single play saw him springing in the air. That was a good sign. Miller is showing good signs. If he plays like himself-the All star Miller, the kings can make a huge stride. As always I favor the kings.... this time maybe 4-2. Damnnnn.. Spurs they did it again. To those who had missed the first game of the series.... the second game is just the replica of the first one. Just that players are scoring bit differently. THree quarters to the Spurs and one quarter to the Lakers. Entering th second quarter and down by 16 points, I were having mercy on the Lakers. especially to the Mail Man and the Glove. They travelled to LA in search of the champonship ring.... for now it seems like that's toooo far away. I love spurs. But I felt for the Lakers for the first time this whole year. Damn.. they were down by 16 at the half also. Slowly they spread their poison and cut the lead upto 2 by the end of the third quarter.. and some 80 seconds into the fourth quarter. Buttttttt the Spurs were able to get rid of the poison before it was inhaled. Mailman had been delivering .. but what about the GLove??? I thought he is gonna lose his starting job. He did score more points but not enough. Once again the younger..Parker outscored him. I can only wish Payton plays better. The home court adavantage well secured by the SPurs..... it's the Lakers turn to return the favor. ...........oh... Phil will prolly say.. we miss you Horry. and Horry might reply with his 3-pointer............ here , do you see me. That will be such a sad ending to the so Antipated story of the 2003-04 LA Lakers. GoodLuck Lakers. GO NBA go Jai nepal |
AX | Posted
on 07-May-04 09:28 AM
aakash bro, I heard the Zen Master is changing the starting lineup. He wants DFISH to start the game instead aging Payton. Zen master thinks DFISH knows Zen Master's triangle offense and won few championships with him. The marriage between Gary Payton and Lakers is not working out that well. Who is the one to blame? Payton knew about Phil's Triangle Offense and Lakers knew about Payton's offense. While in Seattle, Payton was regarded as a great player with great defensive skills. Payton needs more touches and he showed some flashes in last game (3rd quarter). Earlier in the season, when Lakers had the best record in the league with 18-3, everybody was happy with his offense. They did not care about triangle offense then. Is it Payton's fault that he can't play in triangle offense or is Phil Jackson and his coaching staffs are inflexible? Would love to hear from basketball fans…. |
On-The-Rocks | Posted
on 07-May-04 09:49 AM
i think lakers was better offensive and defensive team before Mr. Payton and Mr. Mail Man joined and i agree that fisher should start as first five. there is no way Payton can guard parker. he is too quick for him. last game PJ was angry with malone about the miss pass to kobe. malone is still thiking that he is in jazz. and payton, he was too frustated with his shots that he cannot even make a layups its true they cannot help it. they have been playing thier way for years and its like little late for them to change their game. anyways.... i still believe in lakers. they can come-back!! |
casey00 | Posted
on 07-May-04 10:23 AM
Lakers are in some serious PROBLEMS: 1) I think Payton is step slow for PArker. PArker is directing the offense and giving them good offensive run when it matters the most..He has destroyed the Lakers in last two games...he needs to be stopped or its too late. 2) TD is so confident right now..he has no problem going in the paint...he is shooting those mid range jumpers..teh guy is unstoppable...Lakers will have to get a bad game from duncan to win the game.. Solutions: 1) Make KObe guard Parker....but have PAyton in the starting line up..u dont wanna take confidence away from the guy..and u know he is still capable of doing lots of things....also give fish 20-25 mins as he knows the system well.. 2)Expose Spurs weaknesses, which ofcoruse are very limited..make them shoot free throws..get into their heads..do something!! I like FOx cuz he is a pretty good defensive player..insert him somewhere if he is still healthy... |
AX | Posted
on 07-May-04 10:38 AM
Thanks for the posting O-T-R. I agree with you. You can not easily change your playing style. Both Payton and Malone were first option with their previous team. They used to get 20-25 shots a game and do not have that luxury with Lakers now. They are sidekicks to Shaq and Kobe now. I thought Zen Master and Malone had a verbal war on Malone not hard fouling TD. I was also surprised that Malone let TD dunk in that play. I believe it was in the 3rd quarter. Last summer, FAB FOUR sounded so good in paper. They even talked about winning 70 games, which will be history soon. My personal view is that it was inept to bring Malone and Payton which already had 2 best players in the league. Coaches should take heat for not altering the coaching style. They had to change their coaching style so all can play smoothly and it’s too late for this year. I am sure Payton and Malone can again dominant the game if they go to the team where they are the first option.I do not see them coming back with the team. Winning championship is far fetched. Instead they should go to e-bay and buy the championship rings. I hear deadbeat dad Vernon Maxwell is auctioning his championship rings (while with Houston Rockets) so he can pay child support. |
AX | Posted
on 07-May-04 10:53 AM
Casey00 bro, good suggestions. I feel so sorry for Lakers. I am one of those people who do not like Phil Jackson at all. It could be his days with BULLS that used to beat my beloved KNICKS and here I am giving suggestion to him :) Parker - Kobe (Parker will be tired chasing Kobe around so won’t have good shooting) Bowen - Payton (Bowen does not get enough touch, he is more of a defensive player) Torkoglu/Manu - D. George and bring DFISH when Manu comes Tim Duncan - Karl Malone (don't buy on TD’s fake move; stick with him; let him go to the left while shooting) Shaq - Nesterovic - no need to change anything Did I just give away the win for Lakers? I hope SPURS fans are not cursing at me. |
cool_keta | Posted
on 07-May-04 10:56 AM
I want to play hwagra |
AX | Posted
on 07-May-04 11:04 AM
cool_keta; didn't you get that to play while you were a kid? feel sorry for you :) |
yOuNgBlOoDz | Posted
on 07-May-04 02:44 PM
AX bro remember the FIRST AAUNE KID KO STORY :D:D:D the zen master will try new plan after the series goes in the favor of SPURs.. :D:D: hopefully it will be handy for them next year :D:D.. to beat spurs... malone should hard fould TD and injured him.. :D:D.. coz.. if spurs neutralize either kobe or shaq.. glove n mail man cant do much to get over the game.. but either kobe or shaq.. should be neutralize .. with players like manu, parker .. td.. bowen.. i do see shaq or kobe getting freezeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee yb |
aakash | Posted
on 09-May-04 04:35 PM
Youngblooz, keep ur mouth shut for few days!!! TONY whoooooo???? who is TD???? hope u know what i m talkin bout!!! NEVER UNDER ESTIMATE THE HEART OF THE CHAMPIONS!!! LAKERS R BACK IN SERIES!!! Wait and watch how they r gonna be the 8th team in the history to win the series after 2 game down!!! just wait and watch YA all lakers haters!!!!!! |
Casey00 | Posted
on 09-May-04 05:11 PM
Excellent game by Lakers!!! After all said and done Lakers did what they were supposed to do through amazing chemistry between players and venomous intensity. Lakers won cuz.... Parker and TD were stopped...The duo were averaging about 52 pts per game .in the series..but today TD was totally outplayed by Malone and Parker had tough time getting through in the paint..The result was amazing as they could only muster only 18 pts together...kudos to Lakers!! One part that amazed me was that..the maximum shots taken by a Laker was 13 times (Shaq)..and he made 11 of 'em...what a efficiency!!!..This is how this sytem was supposed to work...the common theme SHARING...the field goal percentage was awesome. I liked the fact that Jackson let Payton do his own thing more than often...although triangle offense is the way to go...it wouldn't hurt for players operate on their own at times... Things to watch out:: I fear Spurs...I am supporting Lakers to win but I dont wanna be drowned in the lake of optimism..I know TD is gonna come back...Popvich is gonna make some change..so until Lakers play to their potential this aint a cake walk.... D-Brown: This kid is a scorer ..I can see him performing well in the upcoming games... Manu::: my sixth sense is telling me that sooner or later Manu is gonan torch the Lakers with game breaking performance..hope I am wrong. |
cool_keta | Posted
on 09-May-04 06:07 PM
Lakers is a great team, but i never liked them. I like kobe but there is something about shaq, rick fox. I dont know what. Also gold and purple color annooys me so much. I am supporting spurs. Tim Dunkin is too good. |
DWI | Posted
on 09-May-04 07:47 PM
After winning the bet for MVP(KG) and Rookie of the Year (LeBron), my nose had grown big lately (though I didn't end up with any money). But, gotta admit, I am not sooo sure about my biggest bet, the T'wolves. If they come together, we can beat the Kings. But, the Spurs look too good. Dang! AX, why did I pass on them? Tony Parker, Pick-n-Roll, Duncan, Bowen(Defense) everything is working for them. Hey, but hope still is there. I think T'wolves still have a legit chance. I ain't jumping bandwagon yet. |
AX | Posted
on 10-May-04 09:56 AM
Seems like Mr. Zen Master learned something from us Sajhaities :) He took our advise and won the game :D I did not get to watch the game, but heard Lakers was not playing traingle offense as before and the result was a win. I think Mr Zen Master is the one to blame on the Payton's and Lakers situation. He should have known that Payton does not fit well on traingle offense. and what do you guys think about Detriot coach Larry Brown da Clown comments about Lawerence Frank? |
Rusty | Posted
on 10-May-04 10:25 AM
I don't know what you guys wrote above. I still stick with the Lakers. I am not supporting them, but I think they are still the one to win. Finally Shaq played his game... 8 blocks!!!! Can u believe? The Lakers will beat the Spurs at game 7. |
AX | Posted
on 10-May-04 11:39 AM
Rusty, glad to see you back :) I guess we have to wait another Lakers win to see Rusty's posting ;) wow shaq made 8 blocks in a game, that has to be career high. That beast needs to concentrate more on blocking the shots than shooting and passing and let Kobe and others score. Something is amazing, Shaq starting to make free throws up from 29.5% to 35.5% :p I heard there is an outcry in San Antonio locker room after loosing to the Lakers. After the game, Tony Parker went to media with his displeasure of the game and reprimand coach Popovich and team captain, Tim Duncan. He also made a call to his agent and said he wants to be traded from San Antonio Spurs after the playoffs. |
aakash | Posted
on 10-May-04 02:39 PM
AX, lakers did play traingle offense but they involved payton with pick n rolll too...it was a great team work!!! Game 4 will be really interesting since both teams know thier secrets!! IT will be a close game and lakers will win by 5. GO LAKERS!!!! KOBE will have a hugeeeeeee game tommorow... :-) |
Casey00 | Posted
on 11-May-04 08:27 AM
Kings Lost AGAIN!! It makes me feel sorry that they have lost last two..both of them close ones...Well Game 2 was all theirs..they din't utilize the opp to go 2-0 and now the confidence seems to swing in Wolves favour..how sad!! But I still think Kings will prevail...tell u why.. Jackson: The energizer bunny will be back soon..maybe in game 4...Kings need someone to push the tempo...play real kings basketball..he will definitely make some noise. If they happen to stop Sprewell and Cassell, which I think they will.. Forget about KG..he is unstoppable..let him get 25 pts 15 rebounds 5 Assist game..who cares!!.cuz even if u try u wont be able to stop him..BUT make sure you dont let Sprewell and Cassell with easy shots...at times teams seem to double team KG and lose other men..same thing happened to Nuggets..hopefully KIngs are bit smarter...Christie on Sprewell .should be an interesting matchup. Miller has had a quiet series..he will make a comeback and I think he is one of the key players in team. Final: Kings 4 Wolves 2. cuz somehow I cant imagine Wolves advancing to COnf finals..too unrealisitc for me...I want to see Lakers vs Kings..:) what do you think abt LAkers vs SPurs tonight? I think the momentum is on Lakers but SPurs will play lot better..From now on..a loss by Lakers is practically their end becuase they donthave home advantage... |
AX | Posted
on 11-May-04 08:30 AM
Great games last nite. Pat Riley had assembled great bunch of young talent in the roster. Young Heat team is not going to give up soon. They have been playing great in home court and have won 16 in a row. Wade is a great player and who won't back down. Glad to see a rookie who will go to lane and try to dunk over bigger players. The dunk in the 3rd qtr over J O'Neal was awesome. Odom is another talented lefty player with all the arsenals (floater, jumper, hook, dunk). Eddie Jones need to shoot more, he seems to passing the ball too much. Grant played effective with 16 rebounds. Caron Butler needs to shoot more as well. I think he is limiting himself trying to be defensive player guarding Ron Artest. He was sensational his rookie season last year as an offensive force. ******************* 2nd game between KINGS and WOLVES was exciting at end of the game. After Wolves leading 10 points with 2 mins to go I changed the channel just to find out Kings were going to tie with 36 secs (???) left. What’s up with KINGS? Are they ever going to win close game? Can someone find out about CWEBB, if he took the money (again???) to loose the game? Did he sign $122 mil contract to pass the ball? Learn something from KG. If you are the man of the team, you demand the ball when game is on the line. Hoping to see better effort from KINGS. |
Rusty | Posted
on 11-May-04 10:16 AM
AX, Your sarcastic remarks on the Lakers will disappear in a week or so. The Lakers will tie the series tonight at Staple Center. Why don’t you go to see this game tonight since you live near by:P Still, the Spurs are lack of confidence when they play with big teams, while Lakers are fully confident against any teams --even though they don’t have any style (offensive or defensive), deep rotation, or good passing etc. Just bunch of talent guys come on the floor and made anything possible. For the past couple of years, I have been noticing that the Lakers are come back team (like Knickerbocker in the past) because of Kobe’s crunch shots. Your heart pounds until Kobe hits the last shot at buzzer bitter if you are against the Lakers fan. Spurs guys get so edgy that they start losing tempo of the game. Duncan misses all his shots, Parker can’t drive to hoop. There’s no other significant help from other teammates, if these two guys fail to score. Shaq is still the most dominant center in NBA, and when he gets the ball from his teammates, he’s almost unstoppable force. Spurs should be quicker with the weak-side help while two or three people guarding him. Keep him off balance from making hook shots and dunks. Wish for his free throw misses:P I think Lakers finally knew how to guard Parker by switching, double-teaming when he got into the lane. Another impact the Spurs are experiencing against the Lakers is Karl Malone. Whenever the Spurs encountered the Lakers in the play-offs in past four years, Duncan was almost matchless; now the Lakers have match up for the Duncan. One thing I agree that Lakers should vastly depend upon Shaq-Kobe offense. Lakers will win at game 7. Kudos to the hungry Wolves:) |
AX | Posted
on 11-May-04 10:52 AM
Rusty, my Q was where were you when Lakers lost first 2 games with Spurs? It’s easy to do yapping after your team wins. We all know how great Lakers team is and they are destined to be the champions this year. Lakers is loaded with great and confident players. Shaq is the most dominant Center; Kobe is the most talented guard; Malone is the greatest PF ever; Payton is defensive genius. Rumor has it, NBA fixed first two matches to muster more audiences because of lower ratings. If you let Spur win first two games, people will watch the series. Kudos to Stern he succeeded. Rusty said” For the past couple of years, I have been noticing that the Lakers are come back team (like Knickerbocker in the past) because of Kobe’s crunch shots.” In my life time, I have not seen Knicks winning a championship. Which great Knicks team are you talking about? You sound like an old chap, are you? :p ********* Casey00 bro, I also want to see Kings advance to the western conference final. Bobby Jackson will be big help to them. Miller dude, take some shot. |
Rusty | Posted
on 11-May-04 11:10 AM
AX, Q: Where was I when the Lakers lost two games in a row? A: I was waiting until Lakers play on their own land:) Last two games were played in Spurs home court so Spurs won. Under no circumstances, Lakers will let Spurs steal their home court advantage tonight. When the series will tie tonight, then what you have to say? Again I am not the "Laker fan', but I know that Lakers will win at game 7 at Spurs. Duncan is no more MVP... Look at Garnet (as I always said throughout this season), he plays like MVP every night while on the floor even if they lose. Come back -- in my words-- does not mean champianship team. The team who is far behind until the third quarter and comes back in the fourth and thrills/fears his fans. If you notice this season, more than half of Lakers games are like that. I think TWolves will come forth for the final. Final: Lakers Vs Wolves. Lakers will easily clinch to NBA final. |
aakash | Posted
on 11-May-04 12:10 PM
I am so glad that the kings got their ass kicked by the wolves!!! LAKERS WILL WIN THE SERIES at game 6 |
Rusty | Posted
on 12-May-04 05:20 AM
AX, Do you feel much better now? After the verdict in his favour, I thought he would score 50 plus yesterday; however, he scored playoffs high. If the Spurs lose next game at home, the game will be over in game 6 at Lakers. Spurs must win next game, so that they would have home court advantage in game 7. |
AX | Posted
on 12-May-04 07:33 AM
After the verdict in his favour >>> What are you talking about? He pleaded not guilty and expects to set a trial date on May 27, seems no Olympics for him. I thought he would score 50 plus yesterday; however, he scored playoffs high. >>> That's what difference between avg Joe and good players in NBA. Great ones perform when they are under pressure. If the Spurs lose next game at home, the game will be over in game 6 at Lakers. >>> I agree. But don't they need to win a game in SBC Center. FYI Lakers are 0-5 in SBC Center since it opened in 02. Just in….. After loosing the game to Lakers last nite, Coach Popovich was so distraught that he told his players this will be the last year for him as a coach. They need to win now if they want to send him as a winner. He confirmed that it has nothing to do with his relationship with team owner daughter. They are only good frens on and off the court. |
Rusty | Posted
on 12-May-04 07:54 AM
AX, that was my mistake. That was just his plead of being not guilty. I didn't read the whole news:p >>Great ones perform when they are under pressure. That's right. Kobe will make it happen. He plays under pressure and all distractions; I think he will get one more title with final MVP award. Tim Duncan under 20 pts in last two games; Tony Parker under 20 in last two games. If they have to win this series, Duncan should put more baskets and take more rebounds. Yeah, it's time for Coach Popovich to get retired now b/c he's had too much of champianship rings. How many? 8 or 9? I can't count:P He should give Zen Master chances too. If he stays with NBA, Spurs will continue their dynasty for another 10 years. |
AX | Posted
on 12-May-04 07:57 AM
lol |
khimu | Posted
on 12-May-04 10:09 AM
42 points man 42 ........... kobe and shaq are like "AA" battries (+) (-) when they combine, theres no way to switch them off. last nite game was great great great ya........... 2 more guys c'mon |
AX | Posted
on 12-May-04 10:53 AM
yeah I agree khimu. They may even do better job if one was feeding another off the court as well. lol They were awesome last nite. They scored 70 points (???) combined. Shaq some reason played as a Shaq few years earlier. If they had the same intensity for all year long, they have talents to go unbeaten for the year (82-0). It’s too bad egoistic bunch playing together and they point finger to other, when they lose. Its surprising no one is whining Kobe taking 27 shots last game. I guess everything is okay as long as you win. Let’s see if they can win first ever game in SBC Center tomorrow. Can someone tell me why does Kobe play so great when he has to appear in the court? Could it be something to do with the teenage accuser? Does it motivate him? If that’s the case Lakers fans may want to see him doing same trick he did while in Colorado with another teenage this summer. (didn’t mean to offend any women who got raped) |
aakash | Posted
on 12-May-04 04:47 PM
I m wondering what the ' Lakers haters' are doin rite now?? peein in their pants??? haha.... WHAT A GAME!!! LAKERS IN game 6!!! |
chanke | Posted
on 12-May-04 04:54 PM
Its gonna be totally new ball game when they will have to play spurs on San Antonio. I am not a big Lakers or Spurs fan but my predication is Spurs on game 7. |
k_loaded | Posted
on 13-May-04 06:14 AM
Lets see what happens tonight. Shaq and kobe together and unstopable. Lakers at Spurs. Looking for the first win in SBC as Ax ji says. And Lakers will, as many say. Go Lakers Go. |
Rusty | Posted
on 13-May-04 07:52 AM
If Spurs lose tonight, then the series will be over in game 6. The Spurs can't afford to lose anymore. I think everything rests upon Tim Duncan, not Tony Parker. |
yOuNgBlOoDz | Posted
on 13-May-04 08:47 AM
This year's playoff is getting interesting.. i mean look at this every team has their won in their court.. all teams are TIED AT 2 TD and co. will find a way to win tonight.. and the home crowd does help one to get a win.... dats a fact.... once again................ its the spurs in 6 no doubts about that.. yb |
Rusty | Posted
on 13-May-04 08:55 AM
I don't know if this only happens to me or all of you. I don't watch any east games.... I don't wanna waste my time, watching eastern conference games. It's not interesting to me at all these days. |
aakash | Posted
on 13-May-04 11:57 AM
same here , rusty....eastern conference is just boring to watch!!! cant wait to watch lakers tonite !!! GO LAKERS!!!! |
Casey00 | Posted
on 13-May-04 12:50 PM
The second round playoff games have been amazing this year. About Eastern Conference Rusty and Aakash: Yes, I agree most of the teams are defensive minded..But again offense gets the crowd going but defense wins the championship..In any major sports it is rare to see a team win it all just cuz of super offense...thats why teams like Dallas in NBA..no matter how exicitng they are..dont win anything!! But again like past few years West seems to be too strong..but DO NOT UNDERESTIMATE the east...The best record in the NBA was from the east...the Pacers...The Detroit seems to be super tough when they get their act together..and MIAMI is an interesting team to watch as they have west coast tempo..and who can forget the Nets...when Kidd starts shooting well..they are capable of sinking any ship.. P.S ALthough I think its the team from West( most prolly Lakers) will win the championship but unlike last few years the series will be really tough |
AX | Posted
on 13-May-04 01:56 PM
2nd round playoffs series been interesting so far this year. Home court team winning 14 out of 16 games. Lower seeds team like Heat and Lakers are riding high. It's good for the game. We have seen new stars are borne and superstars are showing their old flashes. Dup of Wade and Odom is intriguing. Shaq is again dominating the paint. Kobe is hitting the jumpers in 4th quarter and parker shown his quickness. New Jersey has proved wrong who think Defense win the game. Their run and gun offense is fun to watch. Young and inexperienced Heat players have shown their will to fight with experience and better and deep bench team like Pacers. Kings are playing like they need to prove their naysayer. And the most interesting match up is between Spurs and Lakers, who have won last 5 championships together. Both teams have won their home court and the momentum is on the Lakers side after winning last two games in Staples Center. It was Coach Phil Jackson genius part not sticking to triangle offense as he was in previous 2 games. Gary Payton feels more comfortable with and Kobe also seems to be fine w/o triangle offense. It's time for Spurs coach Popovich to adjust with Lakers new offense strategy. TD seems to be frustrated with the offense. Parker, Manu and Bowen need to run more rather than playing half court. Spurs 3rd quarter performance is horrendous, they are -44(??). They have to do something with it Enjoy the game tonite….... |
Chanke | Posted
on 13-May-04 04:36 PM
Is there any love for NHL in sajha? Just a thought! I like NBA but i think Hockey is more fun. |
DWI | Posted
on 13-May-04 08:02 PM
Didja all see that??? Lakers vs Spurs. Duncan makes almost impossible shot at the last second, over Shaq. Lakers has 0.4 seconds left now. Ball inbounds to Derek Fisher and he just lets go a fade away shot, with Ginobli over his face. The ball sinks in too. As Shaq sais, "One lucky shot deserves another." What a series. Betcha, it is going to be better than the Conference final or NBA final. |
yOuNgBlOoDz | Posted
on 13-May-04 08:26 PM
damn.............................................. fisher ko ghar mah aaago lagus :D:D:D:D:D ................. next game mah.. shot lida.. tesko.. kaukuti lagera.. harek shot air ball hous heheheeheheh that was a oustanding fade away by fisher.......... never seen nething like this game... woh... |
Casey00 | Posted
on 13-May-04 08:41 PM
Its 11 pm..and I am goin crazy...freaking crazy... Lakers just saved me some good old money!! I would have gone broke if they had lost that damn match...geez.. anyway Lakers deserved to lose after letting that 16 pt cushion slip away..but last 5 seconds were thriller....I KNEW LAKERS WERENT GONNA GO FOR KOBE...BUT good shot made by Fisher...I cant believe....anyway just one more to go for Lakers...Spurs...man..it might be over for them... |
yOuNgBlOoDz | Posted
on 13-May-04 08:49 PM
""I KNEW LAKERS WERENT GONNA GO FOR KOBE"" casey00.. zen master had planned kobe to be the man.(shaq said that after the game.. when michelle asked him about it). but coz of the spurs defense.. glove coulndn't inbounce the pass to kobe so he gave it to fisher... |
khimu | Posted
on 13-May-04 09:16 PM
i got no word accept "WOW" Fisher |
aakash | Posted
on 13-May-04 09:24 PM
Where r the "LAKERS HATERS" hahaha..i feel pity for u guys!!! Like i said...lakers in game 6.......what a game by the lakers.....that play was desined for Fish....i m sure of it! |
AX | Posted
on 13-May-04 09:53 PM
It was the best game of the year so far. For me, this game was close to Bull-Knicks series in 95(?). It’s sad that both time my team lost. Lucky shots one after another. It was amazing that Fisher got that much space for the final shot. I know it’s nice to analyze after the game, but did any of you notice Spurs had 1 foul to give left. Is it that hard to foul? When someone catches the ball can’t they fouled him (non shooting)? Phil Jackson came out genius from the game, Spurs were thinking one of the hall of fame will take the shot, but he went to fisher instead :) If you can get into hall of fame for one shot, Fisher deserves it. All the momentum on Lakers side and game back to Staples Center, it will hard to beat them. Let’s see what strategy coach Popovich will come with. Feel like I am in a sinking boat and it does not feel good…. |
oys_chill | Posted
on 13-May-04 10:02 PM
OK HONESTLY, I really feel for the spurs fan tonite. I know the sinking feeling ax bro and YB...its same here...if lakers had lost tonite, i would go on a depressoin and finals khattam hunthyo :) Truly remarkable game...looking forward to game six...(crossing my fingers that cable wont' be cut off till then) |
On-The-Rocks | Posted
on 13-May-04 10:34 PM
for the first time, i saw a smile on PJ's face. and why not, even he couldn't believe the shot. that was awesome. TD with almost impossible shot, i had lost the hope on lakers... but Fisher... man his shot was... what can i say. i bet finals ' not gonna be this interesting. i am sure payton and malone has started to see the rings on their finger. lol. anyways..... good luck lakers for the 6th game. |
k_loaded | Posted
on 14-May-04 05:27 AM
Man......wat a game!!! Lets get game six. Go Lakers Go. |
Rusty | Posted
on 14-May-04 07:31 AM
AX, TSK TSK! San Antonio really deserved that win last night, but it was their unfortunate:( I really couldn't believe whatever happened last night. DAMN!! Almost impossible shot. Hopefully next season Tim Duncan will play like MVP for champianship contest. He really needs to improve on scoring. At least score 25 to 30 pts per game and hopefully Tony Parker will get matured. These guys cannot be inconsistent. One more game left and Spurs are done for the season. When I watched last night's game, I almost felt like it was the final. Well, let's see how it goes between Lakers Vs TWolves or Kings. I would like Kings to come forth to compete with the Lakers. They got the caliber to beat Lakers, offensively and deffensively. Watch out!! This could be the season for the Kings to win the first champianship in their franchaise history. However, I stick with the Lakers Lakers at game 6... By the way, after losing the game, Tim Duncan last night made the comment that he would like to get traded to the Knicks next season, along with Tony Parker:P |
Rusty | Posted
on 14-May-04 07:35 AM
Demembering Denis Rodman ![]() |
AX | Posted
on 14-May-04 08:20 AM
Rusty, It was a great game. I don't think Spurs deserved to win the game. They were 16 points down once in their home court where Lakers never beat them before. If the reserves like Manu and D. Brown would not have played better, they could lost by 20 or more point. Parker is not playing good; he seems hesitant while taking shots. I am surprised that you (who I thought had a good grasp about NBA) are asking more from TD. Here’s his stat from last nite: Total Points - 21 FG - 7/15 FT - 7/10 Rebounds - 21 (6 - off) Blocks – 4 The highest scorer from last nite game was Kobe with 22 and he took 23 shots.You need to have someone with last name Chamberlin to top that stat. I have not seen the replay but did you any of notice the time clock? I think the Time keeper(???) did the bad job. How in the hell can you catch and turn around and make a jump shot in 0.4 secs. No excuse. Coach Pop should know better, he should foul the player right after whoever gets it. Win is a win. Now Spurs need to win next game to stay alive, else they will have long summer to think about the series. |
Rusty | Posted
on 14-May-04 08:41 AM
>> you thought I had a good grasp about NBA I am not talking about this particular game. He should average that points and rebound everynight. Yes, of course, this is not Chamberlein's era, but I think he can do that by improving his free throws. last night Tim did fantastic job by 21/21 but he can't do that every nights in. Yeah, I also couldn't believe that how the HELL fisher did that in .4 sec? It should expire in milsec he grabs the ball.... |
Casey00 | Posted
on 14-May-04 08:46 AM
AX bro, I don't think there was any problem with the time clock...Basically you are allowed one shot when there is fraction of second left..it is some kind of rule...I think. Duncan played but he wasnt dominant..well he took rebounds but we haven't seen the same Duncan since game 2.Duncan is very efficient and he made a huge shot to seal the game BUT he barely scored points in the second half when the SPurs were surging..as I have mentioned time and time again..I really fear the SPurs..and they are sitll not out...One good win in LA could put huge pressure on the Lakers...although I want Lakers to win... YoungBloodz: No, I din't happen to watch the Shaq interview as I was too busy jumping around.ANyway if Phil Jackson had called they play for Kobe then I dont think it was a smart idea..Just imagine you have .4 seconds left and there was no need to guard PAyton who was out of bounds..so KOBE was automaticaly double teamed even before the play started!!! But again due to that Fisher got free and it so looked like the PLay was called for Fisher...I mean Lucky escape for PHil that time..:) |
AX | Posted
on 14-May-04 08:54 AM
He is averaging 20.8 ppg and 12.4 rpg in the series. I think he is doing pretty job he could do better job reading the defense. When he gets the ball he is tripled team every time. I hope Coach Pop will draw some new play for him. He is just a good player not a superman who wears purple and gold :) |
AX | Posted
on 14-May-04 09:06 AM
YB bro said "glove coulndn't inbounce the pass to kobe so he gave it to fisher... " that's why I say Zen Master is underrated :p He should demand more than $5 Mil/year that he is getting now. |
AX | Posted
on 14-May-04 09:35 AM
Casey bro said "don't think there was any problem with the time clock...Basically you are allowed one shot when there is fraction of second left..it is some kind of rule...I think." in NBA rule, you need to have 0.3 secs left to catch and shoot. Last nite DFISH caught the ball and turna round and made the shot. I don't think he has enuf time for it. I would like to see the replay but I can't (no tv and radio till tomorrow) :s |
Chanke | Posted
on 14-May-04 10:45 AM
I am not a Lakers Fan but NBA will be boring without that team. I don't really care about Spurs too. So i think its fair to say Lakers on NBA finals with maybe Indiana will be fun to watch series. |
aakash | Posted
on 14-May-04 12:57 PM
HOW NICE TO SEE EVERYBODY IS ENJOYING HERE!!! SPURS fan, i feel sorry for ya all..really...just the way i felt sorry for the kings fan 2 yrs ago...haha... LAKERS R GOIN ALL DA WAY !!!! |
AX | Posted
on 14-May-04 12:57 PM
I didn't know Spurs protested the clock not being started quickly enough after Fisher caught the ball. I think it was wrong on Spurs part protesting it. The whole world want to see big market team Lakers in final so they deserve a break. Bravo Daid Stern you doing a very good job. http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playoffs2004/news/story?id=1801637&partnersite=espn |
AX | Posted
on 14-May-04 01:10 PM
Another great initiative from Commish Stern, he wants “less waiting between games”. Whatta job you doing commish, you deserve a raise to $10 Mil |
oys_chill | Posted
on 14-May-04 02:20 PM
chu chu chu!! Now its the stopclock that didn't work eh? u know what? the game was in san antonio :) what the hell are those clock boys doing?? cheeering for lakers? so the game was matchfixed??? :P u never know! besides, pakistani cricket team and lakers are very similar..way unpredictable...and famous in matchfixing...what do u say AX Bro? :P san antonio fixed the match :P??? |
AX | Posted
on 14-May-04 02:38 PM
it's not Lakers or San Antanoi, it's the commish. Read his history if you don't know about him. His name is David Stern, you will learn alot more about NBA :) I hope you will show me next time(when we meet) how you release the ball in 0.4 secs :) |
oys_chill | Posted
on 14-May-04 02:41 PM
bro, u can see that video on the internet :). U can see it day and night and u'll see when he released the ball. 0.4 Secs is a lot of time .(almost half a second)..now ask 100 m dashers, how much time is 0.4 seconds :) How about we have a game in the west coast this summer..spurs fans vs. lakers fans :) I will show YOU :P and my FT% is much better than shaq :) eheh |
AX | Posted
on 14-May-04 02:45 PM
oys said "U can see it day and night and u'll see when he released the ball. " When the red lite went off, ball was already out of fisher hand. That was not the problem, the problem was when he got the ball clock did not start. You better watch it again. I have yet to see replay tho :p |
oys_chill | Posted
on 14-May-04 02:48 PM
Another perfect excuse to whine about for another year ? :) |
khimu | Posted
on 14-May-04 08:03 PM
are you guys watching Nets VS Pistons game ? Man 3rd OT |
DWI | Posted
on 14-May-04 10:23 PM
Lakers, Spurs. Spurs, Lakers. Are we forgetting that there is another team in NBA that should be equally feared? MINNESOTA TIMBERWOLVES Go Spree-Garnett-Cassel. |
aakash | Posted
on 15-May-04 12:02 PM
I can see LAKERS HATERS r crying about the shot clock again....ufffff...game is over guyssss get over it!!!!!!!!!!! the fact is lakers r gonna eliminate the spurs tonite.....spurs fan better watch this game since they aint gonna see duncan n parker till the end of october!!! GO LAKERSSSSSSSS I agree....TWOLVES playing greattttttttttt..they will beat the kings in game 7!!! |
khimu | Posted
on 15-May-04 11:31 PM
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aakash | Posted
on 16-May-04 12:33 AM
SPURS GONE FOR FISHING!!!! BRING IT ON Who ever it is...Twolves or Kings........LAKERS DONT CARE!!!!!!! THEY R ON A MISSION!!!!!!!!!! GO LAKERS!!!!!!!! See ya next year spurs fan..... :-P |
k_loaded | Posted
on 16-May-04 05:57 AM
Some observation from the Lakers - Spurs series. 1. Lakers play the defense when it really counts. The played better defense than the defensive giants Spurs themselves. They allowed only 83 pts/game this series compared to 94.3 during the regular season. The held Spurs below .35 shooting three times and .40 shooting once in six games. How impressive? 2. No one can shut down kobe in seven game series. Some players can be sucessful at times but they cannot hold him for long or during crunch time. Bowen-Brown combo couldnt stop him......who's next? 3. There's no answer to shaq either. You stop him on offense; he's gonna make a huge defensive play. Still reigns as the most dominant player of the league. He out-rebounded and made more blocks than Duncan. Check this out. 22.5 pts/game on .635 shooting, 14.5 rebs and 4.33 blocks. 4. Karl Malone is doing fantastic job guarding opponent's big guy, rebounding and playing screen roll with Bryant and Payton. Man.....how impressed i am the way he has adjusted(and sacrificed) to this team. 5. Payton seems more comfortable and efficient with this new offensive stategy that lakers are mixing with their traingle offense. 6. Bench are better than last year. Boy.....how valuable has Fisher been to this franchise. 7. THEY BEAT HEAVILY FAVOURED SPURS. I see Lakers playing T'wolves in the west-finals. Lakers win in six games. |
k_loaded | Posted
on 16-May-04 06:00 AM
And .......Ax bro..........are you now convinced that the Lakers are the better team this year? Oh now you think Lakers had six men in their team, the 6th being David Stern. What happened to the two time MVP? The most underratted pt guard? your defensive player of the year? and all all-star deserving players? Do you still think Karl Malone should sign with spurs next year and come off bench and get 15 mins(like you said earlier) of game time? Are you gonna tell us where Payton will be better off next year? Now the whole point is Spurs is done until next season. And dont just start to think that Charles Barkley will come out of retirement to join the Spurs to get the ultimate prize. |
ProudNepali | Posted
on 16-May-04 06:16 PM
ALrite Guys! Lakers Won: chapter is closed. Lakers have developed the Culture of Contradiction and being the Favored ones also. Besides that Clock Shot Controversy, they played a very good team series. Lakers certainly do look better with all the big 4 playing productive games and some extra help from the bench. So, they were fun to watch. TD disappointed me, so did Parker. I am not a Spurs fan neither am I a Lakers Fan.. yet THE SERIES was tremendously exciting. Now........... THe Spurs organization will realize the VALUE OF JAson KIDD... who had been a huge curse for us Celtics fans since his arrival in the COntinental Airlines ARena. Though, it was the Pacers this time..... Jason Kidd cannot be forgotten by us Celtics people even though it's better to forget those memories. But.. hey the guy's got the game. As much as I feel for 'The Glove' and 'The Mail Man', I do feel for Jason kidd also. Now he is bonded with the NEts for prolly the remainder of his career.. I wish he wins at least one championship. Ooops that will be at the cost of the Celtics. But, he is amongst the ones who seriously deserves a NBA championship ring. Oh yeah the NETs vs the Pistos series is very very exciting. Especially game 5 (triple OT) ......... that will go in the NBA records as the most exciting games ever. Boy.... those people showed a lot of courage. The players could hardly run.. yet in their desperacy they remained determined. But........... I see the NEts going to the Eastern Conf. finals once again. And....... oh THe Kings are about to rule. Even though Target Center is the Oppositions hell.. the KINGS will prevail. Game 4 should have gone to the Kings... yet they came short. Game 5 shouldn't even count (for comparison purposes) because C. Webb was already in foul trouble, Divac had even more fouls, and Brad Miller got sent off - in exchane of Martin... martin who??? today's game (6) would have been the elimination match for T-Wolves rather than for the Kings. Yet, the series had gone as entertaining as any other series. I am afraid KG might get a match or two ban for throwing elbow on anthony Peeler. Just look at the replays and look at his face... that tells the whole story. He deserves a suspension and some fine. he should have realized that he was playing in the NBA playoffs and not in the streets of Twin Cities. That's so poor of the MVP. C. Webb apparently is getting comfortable with his motion I guess. His dunk over KG was very impressive. Besides, his defense agains KG was all that counted the most. And oh yeah the other udnerrated players had impacts also. especially, Bufford...... did I spell his name properly. Man he was on fire. Go KINGs go. ....about the pacers on Next thread. jai Nepal |
AX | Posted
on 16-May-04 07:20 PM
Congratulation to all the Lakers fans. Lakers are the better team and deserve to win. Unexpectedly all four superstars played very well game and were assisting each other scoring. It was painful watching my beloved Spurs to go down with Lakers. It seems that void left by The Admiral was too much to overcome. With his leadership and his experience would have counted much more than the guy who replaced him. Shaq was tremendous force in the center and Kobe, as always played great. I felt I was watching younger Shaq in this series. He was all over the court, he played pretty impressive all around game. When they two are on the same page, it’s hard to beat them. Spurs got pretty good team, they need to upgrade in Center position to get to finals again, but are there any? I don’t think there are any player who can guard and Shaq one-on-one. Spurs are $10 mil under cap, they need to resign Manu and good power forward position player. TD needs to move to center. 04 seasons is over for me............ How is NY Yankees doing??? |
OU812 | Posted
on 17-May-04 03:26 AM
Messaging AX: Bro met CK at BBQ on Sunday. Didn't know it was her. Ani whats with gals attending BBQ party then stying couped up in a room. Baffling!! Sorry Lads to bust in like this with a personal msg. All apologies Opps Lads should be "Dudes" or rather "Dooooods". :o) |
aakash | Posted
on 17-May-04 06:48 AM
Finally AX is quiet!!!!!!!!!!! i was tired of hearing ur spurs bla bla in earlier postings! GO enjoy BBQ!!! |
Rusty | Posted
on 17-May-04 07:09 AM
AX, Now go for the Lakers.. Your hometown heros:p Did you see my prediction: the Lakers would win at game 6. Anyways, Spurs need some minor changes in their team. They need a consistent shooting gurad since they can't depend on Parker and Duncan for champainship as you've already seen. Tim Duncan might score and take rebounds but he is not a dominent player at all. He's never been dominent player even though he's two time MVP and two time Champians. When they are down, he doesn't have that personality to challenge opponents like Kobe and Shaq. AX, now donot comment this out;) You saw four losses in a row, and saw both Ts performance. In fact, this is Lakers year. When they make magical shots like Fisher( game 5) and Horry (a couple of years ago), that means ---->>>go for the champianship. They say, history repeats. I won't be surprised if the Kings will match up with the Laker and take revenge. I want the Kings to face the Lakers; the Kings players have good experience with facing the Lakers and beating them, especially Mike Bibby becomes the key player again. TWolves should be happy that they got into the second round. If they face the Lakers, they will get swept. Not a lakers fan:) Can't say who will win if they face the Kings, who can go for both offensive or defensive strategies. |
aakash | Posted
on 17-May-04 07:48 AM
Rusty, U r a lakers fan :-P haha..jk I want Lakers to play with the kings too....lakers will get homecourt advantage and they will beat the kings in game 6....but kings has a greater chance to upset lakers than the twolves..... Lakers has to bring their A game every night if they happen to play the kings...kings arent as good as few yrs back though..their bench isnt that deep this year..but kings r pretty darn good even though i hate that team the most!!! NO MATTER WAHT>>>>>>>>>>>> Lakers R gonna repeat it again!!! |
Rusty | Posted
on 17-May-04 08:41 AM
Aakash, I was once great Knicks fan, but since they've changed so much over the period, I am almost frustrated and turned into neutral supporter for all NBA teams. That way, you don't break your heart:P Lakers will always be a dangerous team to beat until Shaq remains healthy. Honestly, I still appriciate his body and his agility to play the game. Even though his output has been fadding for a couple of years, I would say Shaq is the most dominant center NBA ever had. I know some people would come up with Chamberlein or Russels or Kareem. But, they should think that this is modern era. Anyways, this is same ole same ole stuff:p Kings Vs Lakers would be very interesting. I wish Bobby Jackson were healthy. Yes, this year, kings beach players are not as good as previous years. Vlade it's again time for you to defend Shaq as you did a couple of years ago. Make Shaq difficult to make those hook shots and put big body on his lane and act fake:P |
AX | Posted
on 17-May-04 09:14 AM
It's personal exhchange betn me and Rusty. Bro, you should be a Sports host for TV/Radio. I assure you will do very good job. You know how to jump from one bandwagon to another very quick and that's bread and butter for sports host :) Now Shaq is playing little better and you already jumping in his bandwagon. Wasn't it last year, that you ranked Shaq #3 all time center? What has he done this year to make #1 now? Regarding TD, I still think he is a good player. If you think TD is not a good player, give me the stat for last 5 season who have better nos. than his :) The reason I was drawn to Spurs was it's players. These players are humble and have a great respect for each other and NBA. It's hard not to like when you have a great citizen like David Robinson and Tim Duncan. You never hear bad news about Spurs players - dissatisfaction regarding playing minutes, dead beat parent, beating wife and rape accusation. Still a SPURS fan :) |
Rusty | Posted
on 17-May-04 10:29 AM
AX, I am gonna be interviewed for the position of ESPN news host next week ;) hmm.. I think you misread or something. I have always been placing Shaq as #1 center of all time. I think it was you who came up with Jabar or Chamberlein in the middle. >>Regarding TD, I still think he is a good player. Yes, he's just a good player, but what I am saying is he can't be so much dominant on the floor every night. His stats fluctuates every night, even though the majority of stats makes him look great. Yeah, he has been maintaining pretty impressive stats for last 5/6 years: 20+/10+. But when he has to play with big teams like Lakers or Kings, he should have that challenging mentality: "refuse to lose." I think late in the season, Spurs were at their best and better than last year. In future, I hope to see perimeter consistency and improved free throw in Spurs. Again, NBA is incomplete without Tim Duncan. |
AX | Posted
on 17-May-04 10:57 AM
Rusty, I want you to following links before you label Shaq as the best center ever. Wilt Chamberlain: http://www.nba.com/history/players/chamberlain_summary.html - 2nd all time score behind Kareem Abdul Jabbar - in his rookie season, he scored 37.6 ppg and 27.0 rpg. - had 41 rebounds in one game - scored 100 points in one game - career - 30.1 ppg, 22.9 rpg, 4.4 apg Bill Russell: http://www.nba.com/history/players/russell_summary.html - won 11 champsionship in 13 seasons - had 51 rebounds in one game - career - 15.1 ppg, 22.5 rpg, 4.3 apg The irony is these two players went head-to-head many times and had to play with other legends like Unseld, Reed, Bellamy. ******************************************** Regarding Spurs, I think they need to move TD to center (since none available) and get a quality Power Forward. They need to resign Manu G. They can let go Torkoglu, horry, willis and retain D. Brown (club option). I hope Parker will perform more consistently next year as he will turn 22 (if that means anything) ;) |
oys_chill | Posted
on 17-May-04 11:09 AM
OH common AX bro, Its ok to hate the lakers..but don't bring personal life into the game. IT doesn't matter whether a person is a rapist, wife beater, a serial killer or a NERD. What is important TO US, what he delivers in the court. and kobe has shown what he can deliver. WHy are people drawn to him, YOUNG, MIDDLE AGED AND THE OLD ALIKE despite his accusation as a rapist.. THAT's his personal life. What we should be watching, as spectators, is the game and not indulging into any personal lives. How do you know the people you mentioned are great citizens? Do you have any proof of that they haven't done anything bad in their personal lives? Just because people donate few millions out of their pocket don't make great citizens? ;). I would do, if they were paying me a around 20K per game :). I wanted Spurs to lose :) so they did...I wouldn't be hurt as much if lakers lost in the finals :). Besides, ax bro, the one on one game is still on haina? :P n i have to show you how easy it is to get off shot in 0.4 secs :P |
Rusty | Posted
on 17-May-04 11:44 AM
AX, what I said above? Did you read that? I knew that you would bring up Wilt Chamberlein or Russell, so I wrote "today they play games in modern era." The style of games are not similar to 60s or 70s teams, where there was no goaltending or other strict rules. Shaq played in 90s and 00:) I can really feel what might be going on with you since the Spurs lost. I really feel sorry for that:p I am Shaq's fan, but not Lakers Ok I rest my case now. More later in Lakers Vs Kings series. Oys, Just be prepared to break your heart when they play with the Kings. Living in SF sahar, you're gonna be close to both Sacramento and LA :P |
ProudNepali | Posted
on 17-May-04 05:00 PM
Come On Guys You guys are like those ESPN hosts/analysists.. When someone plays poor..... you guys dish them out so easily. When the same person plays good... you make them the greatest ever. That's crappy. Hell, yeah Shaq will be amongst the most dominant centers in the whole of NBA, I meant History. I tell you guys what, this is not the most accurate statement either. Shaq is amognst the most dominant center of his time.That's how it should be stated. Same with Kareem and Chamberlain or Russell. They played during different eras. If people argue that in the past there weren't penalties for Goal-tending, or 3 second violations and others..... then one should realize that the oppositions played under the same rules as did any teams. They didn't have shot clock or back-court violation and many other rules. That means, rebounding or taking away possessions become more difficult. So, both the old eras and the new eras had their complications. So people stop whining. As of TD, who says he is not amongst the most Dominant player (of all time/of his time)? Name one single person who helped his team win championships in the years 1999 and year 2003? Count how many MVP rings he own?? don't assume championships and MVPs are for free. Shaq always had Kobe playing at his best, so his job becomes more easier as compared to TD's who never had one reliable perimeter shooter to depend on. Boy TD deserves all the credits for the SPurs success. Of course Robinson was there.. but anyone can look at Robinson's stat. and tell where he stands in the NBA history. However, I have a lot of respect for him, since I am a Basketball Fan myself. Still you cannot put Kobe bRyant and Tony Parker in the same category yet... or can you? what about Sean Elliot (maybe I mis-spelled his mae) and Kobe Bryant?? (BTW do not forget TD was injured during the second half of this season). And still, who recieved the second most numerous votes for the MVP award of this season?? Was it Shaq?? Come on..... people wake up. Someone said none can Guard Shaq?? What about Yao Ming. Didn't he take out Shaq out of the equation. Shaq wasn't the biggest factor in Lakers winning the series against Rockets? Ask Shaw what he thinks about Yao Ming and I will not have to write any more on this issue. So guys go CHill out. NBA playoffs is going great. GO NbA GO jai Nepal |
AX | Posted
on 19-May-04 08:04 AM
Oys bro, it’s a personal choice. I would rather support/watch avg. players with integrity than some hooligan. Oys, when I said rapist, I think you presumed it was Kobe. I was not talking about him at all. About Kobe, I will let US Justice handle the case and I will keep myself what I think of him. The Kobe I know now, plays alongside with NBA Superman, is one of the best players in the league and openly admitted cheating on his wife. We have few other players in the sports industry who is accused of raping. In U.S., having seen many high paying players get away with everything just pisses me off. So far I have seen players getting away with choking the coach, raping, killing people, and what not. stop giving them free ride Rusty bro, sorry didn't know Modern NBA meant 90s and 00s. Exactly Proud bro. It's sad to see someone labeling TD as an avg. player after he got beaten. oralo lageko bagh lai mrighra ley ni khedcha (???) ******************* What's up with your MVP? He is all loaded with Uzis, M-16s, 9 MM with some silencers. Bravo KG!!! These days NBA is all about the thug like you. I could not stop laughing when I saw him on tele, dude was all serious and thinking he is ready for war. Look at the last year MVP, you may learn. |
Casey00 | Posted
on 19-May-04 09:04 AM
I might get severly criticized but I never liked KG and always underestimated his talent. He might have the best all round numbers in the modern era and for years to go come BUT I WILL ALWAYS DOUBT HIS HEART....After 7 years of tumbing in the first round , this year definitely was a lucky one for the Wolves..They played great during regular season and hence had to face a relatively unexperienced team in teh first rounds...In the second round they are facing the Kings and I dont think Kings are having a great series..They have had few good games in post season but they are no way close to being that same old high intensity team...and LIKE AX BRO SAID KG TALKS ABOUT GOING IN A WAR WITH HIS ARSENAL OF WEAPONS..HOW STUPID IS THAT????OH WELL HE DIN'T GO TO COLLEGE SO HIS INTELLECT WENT CRAZY..BUT EVEN THE DUMBEST OF HIGH SCHOOL KIDS ARE SMART enough NOT TO SAY THOSE STUPID STUFFS!! C'mon KG you could do better...and if you really wanna go to war please dump your overpaid 28 mill/year and join your fellow brothers at war....IF NOT THEN JUST SHUT UP AND PLAY BALL!!! Ya, these days as easy as a "'RECOGNISED" player is to get into trouble, it is even easier for them to get out of it..I mean there are people accusing you all the time for money and what not but again if you already know that then you don't act stupid...If you have a beautiful wife at home then you dont mess around with 19 year olds. and OK if you are really Horny then you go call escort service or something..YOU JUST DONT SCREW AROUND !!...Well KOBE as good of a player you are on the court, you are as bad of player off the court. anyway ..this is what I think...These days athletes are totally overpaid. for eg. 28 million/year for KG, 25 million for Alex to swing his lumber, |
AX | Posted
on 19-May-04 09:32 AM
Exactly Casey bro. I wish these kids would go to College before jumping to NBA from high school. They would get some education and most importantly will learn Xs and Os of the game. I guess the money NBA is too tempting. I never liked NBA drafting high school kids esp #1. It seems like another high school kid named Howard is going to be drafted #1 overall. Following are the players who jumped to NBA from high school: Dwight Howard S. Telfair, Josh Smith, J. R. Smith, D. Wright I bet you that only one of them is a starter. |
Bball_gurl_04 | Posted
on 19-May-04 08:28 PM
Whatta performance by birthday boy. Unfortunately King's comeback on third quarter and Kristie's fine play couldn't keep them in the play-offs. Looking forward to battle between Lakers and Wolves. BTW, go Lakers :) |
DWI | Posted
on 19-May-04 08:28 PM
TIMBERWOLVES Bring it on Lakers PS: Didja know Minnesota has a little bit of Knicks on them? Spreewell. |
DWI | Posted
on 19-May-04 08:29 PM
Doug Christy was great, but Andre Miller made stupid mistakes at the last minute. Poor Webber, the ball did kiss the rim but got out to deny them the overtime. |
Bball_gurl_04 | Posted
on 19-May-04 08:33 PM
"one lucky shot deserves another". Wolves couldn't give a lucky shot, that kept Webber's shot off the rim ;) |
Rusty | Posted
on 19-May-04 08:47 PM
Congrats to the TWolves for their first appearance to the NBA finals. KG is certainly proved why he's MVP througout the series 1st round and second round both. Yeah, as you guys said, he sometimes act like ghetto kids from the street, but I've seen some people like him for his attitude and hype and for the intensity he brings on the court. I think that's what makes the games more challenging for him. I personally never liked KG, but regardless of my like or dislike, he's a great player. Anyways, now my final guess: Lakers will win at game 5. (4-1). Kobe for final MVP. I was expecting the Kings would come to the final so that it would be more interesting. |
AX | Posted
on 19-May-04 09:44 PM
DWI is finally here and he is all pumped up. New girl in the field. Playaz where are you? :p Rusty, I stopped reading your comment, since you sound so much like Dan Patrick. I would rather watch Sportscenter j/k yes paali ko NBA pugyo aafu lai ta :( |
oys_chill | Posted
on 19-May-04 09:52 PM
MVP of the day right here ;) have been doing all kinds of cross overs throughout the day :D. wolves and lakers? Wolves fans..howl as much as u want tonite. From friday, u'll be hiding ya tails :) i am with b b gurl 04 ...cheering for the lakers :) alley ooping and dunking on ya faces..what do ya say bbgurl04? |
Rusty | Posted
on 20-May-04 06:00 AM
AX, Yeah, you don't read my comments because I have words for everyone...the words of reality. It just that you cannot handle the truth when you go so crazy for a team:P I again say that I am neutral supporter and I speak for any other teams. Of course, throughout this forum, I have been talkin about the Lakers because I know that they're gonna win the champianship and they are the team to beat in west. That's the reality. Call me anything.. That's the truth ;) Sam Cassell is injured but he's playing through pain. It will be nice to see two vetern point guards: Cassell Vs Payton. I have no doubt about KG. Regardless of win or loss, he will still play like MVP, like he's been playing throuhout the series. As you all know Sprewell is very inconsistent players, but he does very good job in defense. But, MN needs his offense to win the game. Sprewell or Wally Szczerbiak would probably guard Kobe, who almost cannot be guard. Not sure about this?? Question is who's gonna guard Shaq??? Ervin Johnson can't guard Shaq. Micheal Olaownnki (not sure of spelling) would be better match for the Shaq, should that guy was healthy. Again, kudos to the Lakers and their fans. It will be tough series, but you got 4-1 win:) |
Casey00 | Posted
on 20-May-04 08:42 AM
Wolves won ..How sad?? I personally never liked their thug mentality...Well they won only to be preyed by ther Lakers. Reasons why Lakers will win: 1) They dethroned the Spurs whom I think were the most disciplined team in the NBA..so Lakers know how to disturb the rhythm. 2) Malone will be on Garnett all series.which will definitely affect his inside game..I can see his rebounds and points production slighty decreasing...More importantly I think Malone will make Garnett work for every possession... 3) KOBE ...whutt? Now who is going to guard him? Sprewell...ummm not enough..Kobe is gonna average atleast 25 pts in this series..he is gonna have some massive games...and on the other hand he will stop Sprewell from hitting clutch shots...Sprewell will average less than 15 pts in this series.. 4) Although around same age..Cassell seems to having a better season..its maybe cuz Cassell gets to create his offense whereas Payton's primary job is to follow the system... anyway very intresting battle ..all Payton needs to do is stop Cassell from scoring.. 5) Shaq...who is gonna stop him? NOBODY...ENUFF SAID.. Reasons why Wolves will win: 1) If Garnett brings ak-47, semi automatic ..etc etc for war then I dont see Lakers winning..other than that Garnett you and your wild wolves are toast. |
AX | Posted
on 20-May-04 09:53 AM
Rusty, i heard the same analysis on SportsCenter :) lakers over wolves in 5 games? hope you didn't get Trikal Dai's help :p ********************************************** After Spurs loss, NBA is not exciting anymore for me. Enough with thugs jumping one end to other. if any of you happened to be in LA, let me know. would love to meet and talk more about sports..... Good Luck with your team, since i got none to cheer for :) |
Rusty | Posted
on 20-May-04 10:23 AM
AX, you are almost encouraging me go to host NBA sports in ESPN:P Yes, NBA has become very incompetative since the Spurs slump. No decent team left, having no misdemeanor.. All we have are thugs and buncha jokers. I think it would have been okay if the Kings had won. Lakers must be happy to repeat the 4th title in last 5 years. >>Good Luck with your team, since i got none to cheer for .... I also got none to cheer for:( :P |
DcKeTa | Posted
on 20-May-04 12:59 PM
Congrats to Twolves and KG but now you all got to FACE the LEGEND i.e LAKERS. Go-Lakers. GO. From Friday, the Western Conference Final Starts but I feel sorry for KG and the Twolves and the FANS.. Well. i guess by now all of you know the result right.. GO-LAKERS, lakers on 5 what do you say? Cheers. |
On-The-Rocks | Posted
on 20-May-04 08:29 PM
Are you ready for the conf finals... ????? the ring is coming back to lakers.... wolves, congrats that you made to conf finals after pretty long time but its lakers time now. good luck lakers. |
k_loaded | Posted
on 21-May-04 06:19 AM
Now whats up with this "thug" thing here? Personally i loved KG's attitudes. Like he said...."I have never been hit and kept quiet and never will" ........it was peepler who initiated contact, wasnt it? C'mon guys........if you are rooting a team with a bunch of decent players(goodie goodies) thats fine. Go cheer for them but you cant argue that the team with "good citizens" should win. KG is deserving for all the success he had this season. Still believe he shoulda been the mvp last year. About the upcoming series......... I hope they make it to game six(good for the fans) but i see it over in 5 games. Watched SC today.........they say T'wolves have serious issues guarding shaq. Well, who hasnt. Not to forget we are talking about aging shaq who has lost few steps on offensive end. But stil,l draws soooo much attention. What does it say to you? Shaq's the best. There's an unsung hero in T'wolves jersey who plays as effective deffensive as anyone(bowen???) in the league. The guy is Trenton Hassel who will be guarding kobe thru out the series for sure. Boy did he shut down Peja. But kobe's different......and will be huge. I see payton lot more involved in this series with his match up with cassel. If he can neutralize Sam, series'll be over soon. Malone will have comparatevely harder time guarding KG(NO disrespect to Duncan) because of Garnett's atheleticism, huge foot steps and his tendency to shoot away from the basket. Although wally has added to wolves bench......Lakers still have the edge when it comes to bench. Man to watch for wolves......Spreewell. For some reason......he plays too well with the lakers. |
Rusty | Posted
on 21-May-04 06:58 AM
>>Man to watch for wolves......Spreewell. For some reason......he plays too well with the lakers. As a Knickerbocker fan, I always admired this guy and always wish for his success. But, Sprewell has been too inconsistent scorer for last few years, like I said before. Whenever Sprewell plays well, I have noticed that that his team wins the game easily. I hope he would score consistently. I have no doubt about his defense, even though Kobe will kill the Wolves to bring their dynasty back to LA. None of us talking about the Eastern Conference Final? Who do you think will win? Pacers or Detroits? O'Neal would most probably won't play for the first game... Obviously good news for the Pistons. I will root for the Pistons.. La ja ta.. |
khimu | Posted
on 21-May-04 11:35 AM
eastern conference "Pistons" Western conference "Lakers" Thats for sure. and back to back, you know what i mean, right! |
On-The-Rocks | Posted
on 24-May-04 01:14 PM
i am very much dissapointed with lakers yesterday, and not because they lost, because they didn't showed the real sportsmanship. whats up with more than 5 tech in one quater??(counting both sides) why so aggressiveness, its just a second game. i know its playoff more over its conf finals, but still.... guys play your game and don't act like a rookie. anyways i still go with lakers. i think they gonna close the series in game 5. |
Rusty | Posted
on 24-May-04 01:26 PM
On the rock, That's it. TWolves won't win a single game now, with Sam Cassell out. Whoever replaced Cassell yesterday did great job, but I don't think he will be consistent throughout the series. I wish Troy Hudson would be there for the TWolves. It's like Sam Cassell came to this team, raised it to the final, but he can't be there when they need him. :P Anyways, Very impressive game by TWolves, and great performance by Szczerbiak. Shots were going from all positions, from Sprewell to Darrick Martin. |
DWI | Posted
on 24-May-04 01:43 PM
Rusty, Sam, I am, will return. However it is for sure that he won't be playing at his top form. That will cost T'wolves a game or two. Still, they have pulled it this far, I will stick to them till the end. It ain't over till its over (tell that to Andre Agassi now). |
yOuNgBlOoOdZ | Posted
on 24-May-04 09:09 PM
eeeeee kha lakers :D:D:D:D:D:D its t'wolves baby.. the trophy gonna go to north.. about sam's n his replacement.. if we look at the history.. troy hudson was killer last year.. hopefully he will repeat it again... |
KickAss | Posted
on 26-May-04 12:15 PM
Hamilton and Miller face off in Detroit tonight. |
Rusty | Posted
on 26-May-04 04:25 PM
Hamilton n Miller...face off doesn't really matter to me. I don't know why I think East gets swept in the finals. However, I would rather want Detroit to face the Lakers in the final. |
Casey00 | Posted
on 26-May-04 04:28 PM
Lakers: Who would've thought Lakers would look so strong after so much happened during the regular season? They punished the Rockets, harassed the Spurs, and they arel frustrating the Wolves. When you just thought it was done then they will KILL the eastern conference champs and win the championship.Man..it sounds so much like good Hollywood movie...hello Spike Lee!!! the key ingredients to the Lakers PLAYOFF run are: 1) 40 years old and stil playing hard...manhandled the Rockets....disturbed Duncan and the Spurs and in the current series he is frustrating KG...although he is doing a great job on defense ..I think he has also been a great player on offense 'though he doesnt have numbers to brag abt..what he is doing is stepping out of the paint..and due to that anyone guarding him would have to make a decision either to leave him open or go after him....usually either option doesnt work cuz if u go after him Shaq will kill u in the paint and if u don,t then he will frequently make those jumpers... 2) Balanced play of the role players....Fish, Payton, and George all have contributed to some sort...it it takin away lot of pressure from KOBE and SHAQ 3) finally they play defense as a team..gosh..these guys are ahrd to score on.. therefore the NBA CHAMPS of 2004 will be the Lakers... |
AX | Posted
on 07-Jun-04 09:16 AM
just trying to bring this thread on the top :) would love to hear more about the finals since I didn't get to watch the game |
AX | Posted
on 07-Jun-04 09:53 AM
************** I did not watch the game ***************** here's what I think happened after checking the stat. Jackson thought if they stop Rip Hamilton they will win the game. Chauncey stepped up and scored team high 22 points. He is the 2nd option on the team. I was surprised to see R. Wallace only played 29 mintues. He is the only low post threat Pistons has. Coach Brown needs to involved him more. Most surprising stat was Ben Wallace only having 8 rebounds in 41 minutes. He needs to hit board more. use Williamson more, Fox/George can't gaurd him. foul Shaq more, he won't be hitting 75% FT next time I think SAJHA NBA lovers should use this thread than others. This way it will be easy to keep track :) |
Ubiquitous | Posted
on 07-Jun-04 02:27 PM
hey Casey, I think you will be proved wrong. U forgot the most defencive team, Pistons. Anyways, they already won the first one and if they win the next game LA will be in big trouble cause the 3 and 4 th game is at Detroit, where they refuse to lose any game. So, i think detroit will take lakers on 6th. Final 4 -2 !!! Ax, About R. Wallace playin just 29 mins, he already had three fouls on the first quarter and since the team was doing good without him so Coach Brown was saving his player for the crucial time. |
aakash | Posted
on 07-Jun-04 02:35 PM
All of u r so funny....here lakers lost a game and everybody is thinkin they will win the championship....what a joke!!! arent ya all same who cheered up for the spurs when they were up 2 ???? hope ya all remember cheering for the spurs......cmon guys..get real!!! detroit cannt beat the lakers in game 7 series...just wait n watch..u will find the reason why..........lakers will win 2,3 and 5 and 6 !!! its over....malone gets his ring...shaq go on a vacation...kobe will proved not guilty and payton will be plannin on his retirement so as phil jackson !!!! GO LAKERSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS |
AX | Posted
on 07-Jun-04 02:51 PM
Thanks for the update Ubiquitous. R. Wallace need to stay away from foul trobule for Pistons to snatch game from Lakers. aakash said "arent ya all same who cheered up for the spurs when they were up 2 ???? hope ya all remember cheering for the spurs......cmon guys..get real!!! " >>> who was i suppose to cheer? Lakers??? let's not forget there are 29 teams in NBA. nothing wrong cheering for your team. aakash said "detroit cannt beat the lakers in game 7 series...just wait n watch..u will find the reason why..........lakers will win 2,3 and 5 and 6 !!!" >>> I am sure you were confident that Lakers were goign to win game 1. what happened? and mind telling why Lakers are not going to win game #4??? aakash also said "malone gets his ring...shaq go on a vacation...kobe will proved not guilty and payton will be plannin on his retirement so as phil jackson !!!! >>> that would be nice for them esp Malone. I would be the happiest person on the earth if Jackson keeps his word about retirement after the season :) |
casey00 | Posted
on 07-Jun-04 03:01 PM
Hello Ubi, Being optimistic is good but denying reality is unacceptable. Yes, Pistons played well to win first game...more importantly they were awesome defensively(esp on role players).all credit to them..but dont forget Larry Brown's Sixers also won the first game against the Lakers in '01 before being crushed by the Lakers...even mighty Spurs won two games against the Lakers this year but look how far did they go? you know that .....Lakers are too good of a team to be losing against the Pistons..no disrespect to the Pistons..but yes I don't see they call pull it off...it aint gonna happen.. Lakers are team of destiny..I cant even imagine Lakers losing...:( earlier I predicted that Lakers would win the championship in either 4th or 5th game....Lakers in 5... Adios |
Rusty | Posted
on 08-Jun-04 07:22 AM
Honestly, I would say Lakers never played a serious game during the regular season... they never played at their best in this play-offs or finals... Last year and this year both, they are not playing as a team like they played a couple years ago. They don't have any style like I said before. They are neither defensive team nor offensive team. Nonetheless, they somehow find ways to beat so much hyped teams like Spurs and TWolves. They just throw bunch of talented guys on the floor and win the games. I think Lakers playoffs series with Houston was the worst one. For me it seemed like Houston could beat them. They can beat so many teams without playing at their best; now if they play as a team, what will happen to NBA (in case Kobe and Shaq remains in the Lakers for another 5 years) Now, I am worry about the standard of NBA teams and players. Lakers will have a couple of more titles in coming seasons. I don't really trust Duncan and Spurs, they will play good in regular season and lost with the Lakers in playoffs. Last year was fluke for sure;) When Shaq gets traded to the Knicks. Ani.. Knicks ko paalo:) Let's hear AX:P |
AX | Posted
on 08-Jun-04 08:29 AM
BS. give some credit to Pistons Offense. Letýs not forget R. Wallace only played 29 mins and attempted only 4 shots and R. Hamilton is not going to shoot 5 for 16. Rusty said "Last year and this year both, they are not playing as a team like they played a couple years ago. They don't have any style like I said before. They are neither defensive team nor offensive team." >>>That's why I say Zen Master has no authority in that team. Four future hall of famers play their own style. Jeannine Buss (Zen Master present gf) said she is 95% sure Zen master would return with Lakers next year. Which means Kobe who does not like to play under Zen Master would sign with another team (most probably with Clippers or Phoenix) Rusty also said "Lakers will have a couple of more titles in coming seasons. I don't really trust Duncan and Spurs, they will play good in regular season and lost with the Lakers in playoffs." >>>Loads of crap. I ask you again name the player who is more consistent than TD for last 7 years. If TD has played all 82 games this year (only played 69 games) he would have collected another MVP trophy again. TD does not have another superstar(s) like Shaq, KG, J OýNeal have. TD makes avg players like Parker, Manu better. Imagine if TD had coach choker or a player who is accused of rape, how many championships he could win. In this NBA era, you need to have 2 superstars to win the championship. I hope Spurs ($10 mil under salary cap) will sign another good player for next season and rest will be historyý.. (Michael Jordan had Scottie Pippen, Magic had Kareem and James Worthy, Bird had Kevin McHale and The Chief) Off the topicý I never liked Alonzo Mourning. But if you are basketball fan, you have to admire for his hard work (Hoyas pride) and defensive tenacity. Doctors have cleared him to play again after kidney transplant. What did you guys think of him? Should he play or not? |
Rusty | Posted
on 08-Jun-04 09:02 AM
AX, I don't really need all that bullcrap about Spurs n Tim Duncan.. Read what I said. They might play good in regular season like they always play... Tim Duncan might set up the screen for other average players like Tony Parkar and others... I know... this is very true when they play with average teams. But what happens to him when he really plays with the teams like Lakers? Why can't he do one-man-show if you think he's done it all by himself? Why did they lose 4 straight games with the Lakers? In 1998-99, Tim Duncan had David Robinson... in 2003, he had Tony Parker and David Bowen...who played outstandingly with fluke...:-) I always admire this decent guy, but what I say is I don't trust him. |
AX | Posted
on 08-Jun-04 09:17 AM
Rusty, you can have your own opinion about TD and Spurs. You can't just deny that they won 2 championships in last 6 years. I agree Lakers were better team than Spurs this year. Lakers added two great players (Mailman and The Glove) after they lost to Spurs last year. That's why Spurs need to add another good player and they got money to sign. TD had The Admiral when they won 2 championships, that's why I am saying TD and the Spurs just need ONE other superstar caliber player (unlike Shaq and KG have, who have THREE each) Rusty said "I always admire this decent guy, but what I say is I don't trust him" >>> which player do you trust??? |
AX | Posted
on 08-Jun-04 09:28 AM
Rusty said "Tim Duncan might set up the screen for other average players like Tony Parkar and others... I know... this is very true when they play with average teams. But what happens to him when he really plays with the teams like Lakers?" >>> Hereýs the link if you donýt who beat Lakers last year http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=230515013 oh yeah i forgot SPURS got SWEPT by Lakers this year. |
Rusty | Posted
on 08-Jun-04 10:14 AM
AX, >>which player do you trust??? -- I seriously trust the players like Shaq and Kobe. Kobe seemed more consistent this year because he played so many incredible games at crunch time. Ooh Yeah, I forgot about Tim Duncan. He's exceptionally great player-- top outta 50 greatest players. >>i forgot SPURS got SWEPT by Lakers this year. Yeah, that was a clean sweep... 2/4 straight:) I wonder what kinda Janitor they have:P |
AX | Posted
on 08-Jun-04 10:51 AM
Shaq and Kobe sound more like Batman & Robin :) I agree tandem of Shaq and Kobe is better than TD by himself :) I didn't get to see great Power Forwards like Wes Unseld, Willis Reed, Elvin Hayes and Kevin McHale play. But I have seen great PFs like Sir Charles Barkley, Karl Malone and Chris Webber play in their prime. None of them come close to TD. He is a great rebounder and shot blocker with excellent shooting touch. Hereýs the link for you if you want to know more about him :) http://www.nba.com/playerfile/tim_duncan/?nav=page Would you have loved him if he had choked his coach or beat up his teammate or going to media bickering about his teammates??? |
Rusty | Posted
on 08-Jun-04 11:12 AM
Would you have loved him if he had choked his coach or beat up his teammate or going to media bickering about his teammates??? - Yes, I would love him then.... He is lack of confident.. he's lack of mental toughness... For me mental toughness (like Kobe and Shaq have) can give u sucess... Kobe, as he is challenged and accused of rape, wants to alleviate his charge by winning champianship and final MVP this year:P |
AX | Posted
on 09-Jun-04 08:37 AM
***** I am not rooting for any team ******* My assessment about the game and the coaches and Lakers players: I watched the NBA after long time and it was all worth it. It was an exciting game even I do not like both teams. Who says Pistons canýt shoot? Pistons outplayed the Lakers even though they lost the game. Pistons were 8 point underdog so I canýt be too critical about them. Coach Brown is a great coach and he has been coaching basketball for loooong time, but he did not do good job at the end of the game (regular time) esp when only 49 secs left in the time clock. When Shaq got the ball, he should have been fouled instead Shaq made a three point play with FT (surprising, ainýt it) and they were 3 points up with 11 secs remaining. When Kobe shot that ball there was 2 secs left, he should have also been hacked right after he got the ball. Zen Master is losing his touch with the team (why would he care, he got the boss daughterýý the last position was supposed to go to Shaq and kick out to Kobe. Handing ball to Kobe was not even third option for Zen Master. Kobe bailed him outý.. can we also ask him about the fisher shot with 0.04 secs left??? He ainýt a genius guru unless he goes to poor team like present Wiz and Warriors teams. Shaq: is he paid $22 mil only to play for offense. Come on the biggest whiner in the NBA sweat some for defense. It would be interesting to see how he reacts after Kobeýs heroic performance i.e. if I can understand what he is saying. Anybody wanna help to translate??? Only 7 rebounds for the NBA beast??? Kobe: awesome player who shoots too much. If you are Lakers fan and you donýt like him, you still want him the ball at the crunch time. Malone: dude, if you are hurt stay on the bench. Donýt try to show your manhood. We all know you were a great player while with Jazz. You should retire next year or recruit your tag partner Stockton. Payton: Just shut your mouth and show the world you are a great teammate. You ainýt the same player as you were before. You can retire as well. Walton: High basketball IQ guy (being wildcats has something to do it?) who does not like to shoot. |
aakash | Posted
on 09-Jun-04 02:10 PM
Where are the yap yap Pistons fan now!!! i hope ya all are shocked !!! dont worry there are many more shocking moments coming up from KOBE AND THE LAKERS!!! GO LAKERSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS |
bahadur977 | Posted
on 09-Jun-04 02:30 PM
Before, the NBA Championship started I thought it's gonna be all over LAKERS..After watching first game I thought PISTON has a chance as long as they defend their home court. After watching Game # 2, I think PISTON have LEGIMATE shot to be NBA Champ..No doubt KOBE is great player..KUDOS to him.. I am not PISTON Fan...I am just a LAKRES HATER (and SUPPORTER of any team from ESAT...) Way to go PISTON took one game out of two.. Until then... BEAT LAKERS.. |
Jonny_Blaze | Posted
on 09-Jun-04 05:57 PM
Tim Duncan the top on the greatest 50 players?>>>>LOL....well i guess it's opinion...it certainly isn't stats. He is one of the best PF but not all time, if i had to choose the best all time PF in their prime it'd be between Sir Charles and Tha Mailman. These guys played big all the time. Nevertheless right no Duncan is the best PF no doubt, even though i opt for KG. Yesterday's game was a waste of my time, despite Coach Brown being THE best coach in the league he did sum stupid plays (maybe i should coach), if they had just hacked shaq or sumone. Lakers are such a cliche team, they always have to be the good guys riding in on their white horse...please give it a rest. A rich team that can afford all these players, well i'm always for the underdogg. Though PIstons were not my favorite from the East, the other phenomenol PF Rashhed Wallace whose behavior is improving has played quite well, Prince, ok i know enuff has been said on this topic, lets see what will happen. The Best Defense or Look At me in my yellow n purple n my celibrity guest list watching me team??? Only time will tell. I predict Pistons in 7 -jb |
Zombie | Posted
on 09-Jun-04 06:58 PM
Yeah baby, beat Lakers, I can't wait to see Pistons making NBA 2004. :) |
aakash | Posted
on 09-Jun-04 07:21 PM
Keep on dreaming LAKERS HATERS!!! |
casey00 | Posted
on 09-Jun-04 10:35 PM
Pistons confidence went from sky high to rock bottom when KOBE hit that 3 pt to tie the game. Cmon Lakers looked out of focus until he made that shot..we all know how Lakers are...when they are in rhythm then they are almost impossible to stop...game 2 was very critical game for both of the teams...and guess what...Pistons couldn't capatalize the opp to go 2 up for the series...well I believe that will be it for the Pistons...they might win a game but I hardly doubt that they will be able to come back..:( Best PF currently playing in the NBA: Malone: The guys is simply amazing and when he wins his ring this year ...he was finally be complete as a very successful player...a great scorer, rebounder and go to guy for his team for most of his years..he has also served well as a role player in Lakers uniform..I think his legacy of making JAZZ one of the most competetive teams during his stay will land him up there.... Duncan: Who says he isn't aggreesive? who says the guy lacks confidence? If he lacked confidence he wouldnt have won two championship...just imagine....he just makes the players around his much better...he is fundamentally correct!!..plays the game the way he should...and since he came to Spurs he has never had super star cast supporting him so..u can imagine he is doing bulk of work..they guy is tremendous....he will win atleasnt one championship... and be remembered as one of the best PF KG: he fills up the stats..he made to the western finals this year..but I never liked him..weird...he is a good player...I dont know if he is great..it might be the fact that he makes so much money that its hard to get enough quality players around him..cuz of salary cap problem...I hope he takes a pay cut ...and gives his team opp to win a championship...I jsut dont like players makeing 28 million a year..no one is worth that much money.. so my ranking is .. 1) Duncan 2) Malone ( He should be number one but Duncan won more championship and playing a lead role) 3) KG |
Jonny_Blaze | Posted
on 09-Jun-04 11:30 PM
Though i am not at all a Kobe fan, there is no denying this guys presence. This is the guy that is so consistent as compared to other stars in the league, he is that essential player you need to give that team that extra edge and boost, even if Shaq's scoring 30, Kobe will always be that player who has the quality to not only start games but finish them huge. This characteristic is found in another player, his Airness himself. People marvel at Kobes offense, i think his defense is equally brilliant. This guy really does deliver and can improvise to almost any situation on the game. And he just proved it in Game 2. i can't stand the guy. jb |
AX | Posted
on 10-Jun-04 12:05 AM
J_B who said TD was the greatest player ever to play? Casey00 bro great analysis. I agree with you completely. I will also throw CWebb name there. I know he is hurt this season so people kinda forget about him. You can put his no as well with any PFs. Here's what I think about KG. He could not do anything before this season. His team lost 7 previous season in the first round. This year, he is surrounded by 3 all star caliber players, that's why Wolves reached to the conf. final. Cassell, Sprewell and Wally have good role in that team. KG first 7 season stats does not even come close to TD. The legacy of KG would eb the high school guy who jumped directly to NBA made $28 mil. a year and is the main reason for shortened (???) 98-99 season. Malone reinjured the medial collateral ligament in his right knee. He took a pay cut just to win the championship. He said he will suit for the game tomorrow. I feel for this guy. Hvaing personal experience with knee injury, I know how painful it is. I think he should retire after the season whether he wins the ring or not. wish him the best. |
AX | Posted
on 10-Jun-04 12:15 AM
DWI, Rusty and other KNICKS fans.... There is rumor that Kobe said he wants to visit Knicks after the season. what do you guys think of it? If Kobe signs with the team what will be the status of Marbury and H20??? |
Rusty | Posted
on 10-Jun-04 06:20 AM
Yes, The pistons should have won the last game, they could have stole the Lakers home court games... Now, Pistons know how to beat the Lakers, and hope they will beat them in Detroit tonight. However, killer Kobe won't let it happen. He's been the most thrilling player throughout the season and in some of the games of the playoffs. He mostly shows his performance in the second half, especially 4th quarter. Shaq has been obviously playing great like he always does in the Finals to get that hardware (final MVP). But I doubt Shaq will win MVP this time. There is rumor that Kobe said he wants to visit Knicks after the season. what do you guys think of it? -- It's certainly great. But I would rather go with Shaq. hehehe!! If that is the case, Houston and Kurt Thomas will be traded, I guess. But, what Knicks really need is a good center or better PF. BTW, I also heard the rumor that Tim Duncan wants to be traded somewhere in East. Who knows he also wants to play with the Knicks:P hehe (JK) |
bahadur977 | Posted
on 11-Jun-04 06:33 AM
Two down two to go... BEAT LAKERS...... SO sweet to watch LAKERS is down with record setting playoff low point... BEAT LAKERS........ GOOOOOOO.......PISTONS............GOOOOOOOOOO |
Dr. Strangelove | Posted
on 11-Jun-04 06:50 AM
I'll be damned! 88-68. Whateva happened to the invincible Lakers? Bravo, Pistons! Seems to be operating at full-throttle. |
boston_dude | Posted
on 11-Jun-04 06:59 AM
At this rate, Lakers should consider themselves lucky that they won't be SWEPT. Both games on Laker country were dominated by Pistons. Lakers were lucky to have sqwueezed a victory in game 2. Game 1 and 3 were resounding victories for Pistons. Lakers look more like Fakers from hollywood. Too bad, it aint a movie. B_D. |
bahadur977 | Posted
on 14-Jun-04 07:02 AM
Three down one to go... BEAT LAKERS...... GO PISTON GO |
Rusty | Posted
on 14-Jun-04 07:52 AM
After six years, since MJ era, the champianship is coming back to the East:-) Bravo.. Wallance^2 and Billups. Probably, Hamilton will get MVP but my MVP is C. Billups, who has been the most consistent throughout the Lakers-Pistons series... I am quite astounded to see Larry Brown's final full of surprises:) He really got the hold of Lakers weakness... However I wanna see the series upto Game7;) |
AX | Posted
on 14-Jun-04 08:17 AM
Rusty said "After six years, since MJ era, the champianship is coming back to the East:-) Bravo.. Wallance^2 and Billups. Probably, Hamilton will get MVP but my MVP is C. Billups, who has been the most consistent throughout the Lakers-Pistons series... I am quite astounded to see Larry Brown's final full of surprises:) He really got the hold of Lakers weakness... However I wanna see the series upto Game7;) " >>> what is this now? jumping to different bandwagon??? I am not surprised to hear that from you :) If Pistons to win the championship, Chauncey will be crowned as final MVP. ************************************ My thoughts about last game between new Pistons Bad Boyz and Showtime Lakers: Pistons are for real. Last nite, Lakers played with much more intensity than other games and still got lost. Before the series started, I thought Lakers wonýt have hard time beating Pistons. Now they are brink of loosing the series and it seems like itýs their last run as a Shaq-Kobe tandem. The 3 games I watched, Pistons are making Lakers to play their game. Kobe is not getting easy shot. Malone is hurt and Shaq canýt be effective whole 48 mins. Lakers roster is loaded with superstars where as Pistons has none. I always thought you need to have 2 superstars duos like Duncan-Robinson, Shaq-Kobe, Jordan- Pippen, Hakeem-Clyde to win the championship. Pistons is proving people like me to think otherwise. Zen master finally looked like a real coach. He was finally taking timeouts when other team was on a roll and talking to his players while timeout. I wonder what happened to his Zen philosophy (donýt get me wrong zen followers, I know nothing about Zen) According to his current gf, coach does not take time out coz he wants players themselves to realize about the mistakes. He was so fumed yesterday that he got technical foul (never seen that before) where as his counterpart Coach Brown was doing his job masterfully. Pistons were moving the ball from side to side and taking the shots when only free and penetrating the ball more and was also running the floor while Shaq on the court. Can you believe that Pistons went 44 times to the free throw line, where Lakers only went 22 times? Coach Brown strategy of not double teaming Shaq is working as a charm. I would not be surprise Shaq going to media today and blasting his teammates again and coaching staffs for not feeding the ball more. Other coaches have successfully used hacking Shaq at the end of the game when the game is tight, did the same thing crossed on Zen Master mind about fouling Ben? Ben is an anemic FT shooter like Shaq. Five players, who won three championships together under Zen Master and asked to change the starting rotation, can you name them and what you think of it? Deviate from the topic, what is wrong with NBA players? None of them want to represent their country in the Olympic Games. The only two players left from the original roster are Allen Iverson and Tim Duncan. I salute AI3 and TD for their courage. You should be proud to represent your country in the Olympic Games. |
Casey00 | Posted
on 14-Jun-04 08:17 AM
Ya guys, I am heavily dissapointed with the way things have gone so far in the series. I can't believe that they are losing it...Just lookign at Malone and Payton makes me really sad...I dont know what will happen to the Lakers if they lose the finals...I am sure they will be broken apart.. Here is my analysis of what will happen if Lakers dont win: 1) Malone will retire; Payton will opt out of the contract and join another team. Actually in Payton's case he will not be in Lakers uniform even if they win a championship. 2) The Lakers organisation will have to make a huge decision...KObe has decided that he will test the free agency but I dont think Lakers are keen on letting Kobe go..cuz they are the ones who can offer him maximum contract in the long run. But again KObe wants to be captain of ship, which wouldnt be possible if Shaq is there. So, I think it will be upto Lakers organisation to either trade Shaq or let KOBE ago...Tough time ahead for the Lakers. 3) Jackson will be back for the Lakers ..no questions about that. 4) Huge changes in teh squad..... If Lakers win: 1) Malone and Payton will still leave 2) KObe might stay with Lakers just to win few more championship cuz Shaq still has 2-3 years left in his game. Bottom line: This series isn't over yet but the way they are playing isnt helping them either. Pistons had tough time playing against Eastern teams...they had to go 7 game against the Nets and 6 against the Pacers.so I believe..its the Lakers that suck now...The Lakers are playing liek crap and thats why they are losing..Pistons are just playing their game. |
AX | Posted
on 14-Jun-04 08:36 AM
Casey00 bro, it's not simple as you think about LA Lakers. Here are few things I heard/know about the Lakers Organization and its players, and you decide.... Jerry Buss, principle owner of the team, treats Kobe as a son. And he trusts Kobe than anybody else Jeannine Buss, daughter of Jerry Buss is the present girl friend of Coach Phil Jackson a.k.a. Zen Master. Magic Johnson, real Showtime and the minority team owner thinks Shaq is still da man. Shaq still thinks he is the superman and only superstar in the team Payton has enough with triangle offense. Malone is tired of playing with buncha kids who does nothing but whine. According sources, Kobe does not like Phil Jackson and does not want to play under him. He also does not like to play alongside with Shaq. Kobe is unrestricted free agent; Malone and Payton can opt out from their contract after series is over; Shaq has one year left on his contract; Coach Jackson does not have a contract for next season. It will be interesting to see the Lakers team next year. I feel for Payton and especially Malone. They signed with Lakers with huge pay cut just to win championship. ******* Series will be over tomorrow, if Coach Jackson insists Kobe to pass the ball ******* |
Rusty | Posted
on 14-Jun-04 09:08 AM
Bench players of the Lakers output in this series has been as minimal as Lary Brown wanted. Shaq still played very well; he could still be MVP, had the Lakers won the finals ; look at his last night's game (20 reb, 36 pts), but there's no help from the weak side. After all, the team work is key to winning the games. Yes, looks like Zen Master, after having too many titles, wants no more champianship ring. He lost control of organizing his team. Basically, beside great defense, Pistons also have great team work without having any future hall of famers (now there will be). Most probably series will be close out tomorrow; however i wanna see game 7:) Brown, Bravo to you. After so much struggle as a coach, you are lucky to have at least "one" champianship ring:) You're certainly a great coach. |
Casey00 | Posted
on 14-Jun-04 09:14 AM
Hey AX bro, Yes, the situation doesnt look too simple for the Lakers but what other options do you have? Lakers would have to make a decision but having said that there is also a chance that Shaq and Kobe might sort out their differences and play better. We will see what happens... Yes Rusty bro...Bench players have been the key..but I must say taht game 5 was total disaster for the Lakers...KOBE just dint make any good shots...he was totally outplayed...how sad:( but I m sur ehe will bounce back n the games to come...Its not easy for player of that talent to be put down that easily..Lakers are ognna fight back...They will fight back...its not over until its over. |
AX | Posted
on 14-Jun-04 09:39 AM
Rusty bro what happened now. Till last week you were trumpeting for Lakers and now you changing your tunes? Pistons Coach Brown is a hall of Famer. He was inducted to HoF as a coach on 2002 and he will be the only coach to win the championship in collegiate and NBA level. He won a championship with Kansas Jayhawks in 1988 which had Danny Manning (rem him???) ************************************* This is what I feel about Lakers. Lakers owner Buss will go to Kobe and will ask what he wants. I am sure Kobe will say he wants Coach Jackson outta town and they should not extend Shaqýs contract. That way Kobe can call Lakers as his team, like Shaq has been claiming last few years. If Buss says he wants Jackson to be back with the team, expect him to play for another LA team called Clippers. I hope Jackson takes this as a challenge and goes to Hawks to coach. If he wins the championship with that roster, he will prove lotsa doubters like me wrong. Till then he is just an avg coach who won 9 championship with the best players Jordan-Pippen and Shaq-Kobe in the league at their prime. |
Rusty | Posted
on 14-Jun-04 10:07 AM
>>Till last week you were trumpeting for Lakers and now you changing your tunes? I haven't changed my tone. I write whatever I feel; that doesn't mean I am lakers or Pistons hater. Again, let me clearify me: I am neutral for all NBA teams; however, I still admire the Knicks, for I've always been their fan. Lakers survived until Western Conference Finals beating Spurs and the TWolves without any solid defense or solid offense. I've been saying this over and over again. Lakers have buncha talented and skillful players, but no coordination amongst each other. There's fight and feud and no respect for each other within the team . I think that's what killed the Lakers. I was wrong at calculating Pistons caliber. They outplayed the lakers, mostly in defense. Lakers will need a big change next season. I don't think Kobe will stay with that team no matter how his owner treats him. It's time for Shaq to get divorced from Kobe. >>Pistons Coach Brown is a hall of Famer I am talkin about the players. NOT COACH >>He won a championship with Kansas Jayhawks in 1988 which had Danny Manning (rem him???) you could be right and i could be wrong. Let me do some research on it.... Anyways, Sajha bidwaans might think this is a crap thread. They probably never open this like I never open "Puskar Shah bla bla thread". but I would say they don't know what sports mean. We had a lots of healthy discussion about games and sports. I really enjoyed it.... |
tilkumari | Posted
on 14-Jun-04 10:13 AM
lakers done for this yearrrrrrrrr yeahhhhhhhhhh go pistonsssssssssssssssssssssssssss |
AX | Posted
on 14-Jun-04 10:29 AM
I agree Rusty bro. Healthy discussion is good and I hope Sajha Heavyweight will learn from US :D There is nothing exciting for me to watching Yankees win and Lakers loosing ;) having said that here's few lines I took out from your previous postings :p ýI don't know why I think East gets swept in the finals.ý ýI seriously trust the players like Shaq and Kobe. Kobe seemed more consistent this year because he played so many incredible games at crunch time.ý ýHonestly, I would say Lakers never played a serious game during the regular season... they never played at their best in this play-offs or finals...ý ýThey just throw bunch of talented guys on the floor and win the games.ý ýThey can beat so many teams without playing at their best; now if they play as a team, what will happen to NBA (in case Kobe and Shaq remains in the Lakers for another 5 years) Now, I am worry about the standard of NBA teams and players.ý *************************** about the HoF, Zen master for sure will be there and so will be his top assistant Tex Winter(???) who invented traingle offense. so we can say 6 future hall of famers gathered in one team is getting outplayed by new bad boyz in NBA :0 |
Rusty | Posted
on 14-Jun-04 10:33 AM
Ok, >>He won a championship with Kansas Jayhawks in 1988 which had Danny Manning (rem him???) -- What the hell u talking about?? Larry Brown was coaching San Antonio in 1988!! Common Dawg, I am talking about NBA champianship. Ma garchu agra ko kura, timi garne gagra ko kura;) nevertheless, he's one of the great coach of all time. I do have great respect for him... But, do not understimate Phil Jackson, he is certainly a exceptionally outstanding coach:-) |
AX | Posted
on 14-Jun-04 10:43 AM
Rusty, I thought I made it clear. I said he will be the only coach to win both (cooelgiate and NBA) level. I did won the championship with Kansas Univ in 87-88 season. here's Larry Brown's caoching tenure: Rusty, I thought I made it clear. I said he will be the only coach to win both (collegiate and NBA) level. I did won the championship with Kansas Univ. in 87-88 seasons. Coach Larry is famous for changing the teams. Detroit is the his 7th team in NBA, not counting ABA. here's Larry Brown's coaching resume: University of Kansas (1984-88) NBA's San Antonio Spurs (1989-92) NBA's Detroit Pistons (2003 - present) Source: http://www.hoophall.com/halloffamers/brown_larry.htm Rusty, can we wait till Tomorrow after the game for the LAST posting in this thread :S |
Casey00 | Posted
on 14-Jun-04 11:43 AM
Well AX..The last posting of this thread will be after game 7 so I guess we can keep the posts coming..what do you say??? :) I am already thinking MVP now...I think if Pistons then it will either go to Rip Hamilto OR Chauncey Billups. I should say that I am putting my money on Billups....Having said that he might be first low key player in my times to win Finals MVP..I cant recall anyone below superstar status getting MVP since I started watching NBA..I might be wrong...anyway it just proves how Bball after all said and done is still a team game.:) If Lakers win and that wont be without monsterous performance by Shaq...then Shaq will take the hardware again. |