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| Biruwa | Posted
on 24-Feb-04 09:30 AM
It appears that San appears perfectly happy letting, Hindu and Bahun bashing idiots rule the roost in sajha. But once somebody starts attacking newar community or whatever his other beliefs are he turns red and either deletes them or puts them in obscure place (so that nobody will accuse him of muting unpleasant voice). |
| acharya | Posted
on 24-Feb-04 09:38 AM
San is not Hindu? lol! |
| dazzling ko keti | Posted
on 24-Feb-04 10:14 AM
I don't think a person who promotes unity among nepalis to this extent would at the same time encourage anything along the lines of what you are alleging. Those derogatory opinions don't in anyway reflect the purpose of this site and it CERTAINLY does not echo San's stand on ethnic bashing. In fact, I think the majority of us here in sajha are very thankful to him for giving us this opportunity to share each others views and opinions. Even though we may not see eye to eye on every issue......I take that as something constructive. An opportunity to learn "of" and "from" each other. The beauty of this forum lies in its diversity and I for sure treasure that immensely. Lets MOVE AHEAD.....shall we?? |
| Biruwa | Posted
on 24-Feb-04 10:29 AM
I have appreciated having a site like sajha where people can express their views. At the same time, it is the expressed rule by san himself that he will put posts which have a disparaging view of another belief in "our differences" section. I had tried unsuccessfully in attracting san's action against the post "HINDU RELIGION IS GOING TO DISAPPEAR IN NEPAL ". However he took no notice of the post and allowed the said posting to fester animosity among nepalis of different views. I find this surprising. He is not enacting his own made rules just like as it happens in the government corridors of Nepal. Or, you can say he is acting like raja ram in the maha prahasan "Gaun khane katha" :-). |
| dazzling ko keti | Posted
on 24-Feb-04 10:41 AM
Biruwa I am sure he has not gone back on what he stated earlier. He has other engagements too(pun intended) :-) and I am quite confident he will attend to this issue once he gets through those. PS: Apologies to San for taking this liberty to speak on your behalf. |
| nepali_angel | Posted
on 24-Feb-04 11:01 AM
I think San just sends out emails to those participating in flame wars. San, in the past, has never taken action when these types of threads crop up. Same with Newar bashing threads too. Take a look: http://www.gbnc.org/sajha/html/OpenThread.cfm?forum=2&ThreadID=14056 The thread is still there. So I don't think he is biased. Just Take these types of threads with a grain of salt ......also, it's just people's opinion...doesn't mean that Hinduism is really going to disappear. People who say so are only clowning around. |
| Biruwa | Posted
on 24-Feb-04 11:02 AM
Baf re dazzling ko keti - U don't have to answer on San's behalf. Or r u the cause of his engagement? Wondering..........Why b so protective of him? |
| Poonte | Posted
on 24-Feb-04 11:05 AM
Biruwa-jyu, With all due respect... Respectful, albeit provocative, discussions on ANY topic is healthy for a progressive society. As long as the discussants refrain from sounding deragotory, filthy, and disrespectful of the opposing views, good arguments help us sharpen our own ideas, or learn new ones. Hence, had the "Bahun-bashing" thread remained within the confines of respectful disgreements, I personally would have had no problems with that thread either. [Mind you, San wisely chose to delete that thread after the arguments began to take a nasty turn -- would you have then accused San of being a Brahman himself just because he chose to delete that thread? Thus, I find your assertion that had the topic been against the Newars he'd have promtly acted to remove the thread rather rediculous.] As for the thread on Hindu religion, I have been reading the postings there thoroughly, and I must say I have been enjoying the views posted there so far -- I do not see any nasty mud-slinging competition going on there between the opposing views. Being a pakka Hindu myself (who still proudly wears a JANAI and does his paath-puja every day despite the fact that I've been living abroad for over a decade now), I am finding some of the arguments on that thread quite interesting. Even though I may or may not agree with what the posters have had to say so far, I remain open to respectful opposing views so that perhaps I myself will get to learn a different perspective on something that I've believed in firmly my entire life. Therefore, as long as the arguments are not nasty, deragotory and disrespectful, I frankly do not see any reason to be alarmed just yet. Let the discussions flow. |
| dazzling ko keti | Posted
on 24-Feb-04 11:08 AM
Eeeeeeeeeeeeeee, Uggggggggggggghhhhh, Arrrrrghhhhh Biruwa!!!! |
| nepali_angel | Posted
on 24-Feb-04 11:19 AM
He didn't delete the thread. http://www.gbnc.org/sajha/html/OpenThread.cfm?forum=2&ThreadID=13988 Listen here, of course you non-bahuns wouldn't mind provocative discussions bashing bahuns... the fact of the matter is, the majority of these ethnic bashing threads are directed towards bahuns. Then there are those started satirizing bahun bashing threads, like "chettris to be blamed" and "newars to be blamed". Only then did San take "action". I now actually see what Biruwa's point of view is. Point is, try to look at it from our perspective. |
| Poonte | Posted
on 24-Feb-04 11:58 AM
"Listen here, of course you non-bahuns wouldn't mind provocative discussions bashing bahuns..." nepali_angel-jyu, I beg your pardon if the above statement was not directed towards me; however, given the context of all the postings above, I get the feeling that you may have intended to accuse me (and, perhaps, others as well) of having biases in favor of discussions that are "bahun-bashings." Hence, I feel compelled to respond. Once again, forgive me if I am mistaken. As for the "provocative discussions" on ANY caste, as long as the discussants do NOT intend to BASH the subjects, I personally am open to reading and contemplating their thoughts and ideas. As I said above, the key ingredient for such discussions to remain valid and thought-provoking in my mind are: 1. refrain from being deragortory 2. be respectful and, 3. be filled with ideas, not just stale rhetoric that belittles any particular caste Bring them on, I say! ANY caste, any subject, as long as they do not attempt to belittle ANYONE, not only the bahuns. Yet, I think the thread that BIRUWA was concerned about was on Hindu religion, which I said has not yet discredited itself as a mere HINDU BASHING, but rather a healthy discussion on the impact, or the lack there of, of Hinduism in Nepal. Therefore, re-igniting the discussion on caste once again, especially in this thread, I think will only do injustice to BIRUWA's primary concern. |
| Biruwa | Posted
on 24-Feb-04 12:49 PM
Thank you poonte for understanding my primary concern. But let's not get distracted by the primary and secondary concerns. You yourself have said that the postings are acceptable as longs as they refrain from being deragortory and be respectful. OK, how can the posting titled "HINDU RELIGION IS GOING TO DISAPPEAR IN NEPAL " be considered respectful. bkratna, who started that disrespectful thread asks in his starting post: "Most of the follower of hindu religion in Nepal does not know, what is Hindu religion and what should they do, and what they should not do?" These are thought provoking questions. At the same time this thread was posted with senile intension. Has he done some research on this? Yes, there is a high rumor among people that hindus nowadays don't know their own religion. This rumor mongering has been done by people of other beliefs than hindus themselves. There has indeed been a good aspect of this rumor. Some hindus have been encouraged to find out more about their own religion. This is for mr poonte. Now at the end of his short posting he goes on to say That is why it is being so hateful. Now, the Hindu religion is going to be disappear day to day from Hindu country Nepal and this is the demand of time that this kind of nuisance religion should not be anymore in the society. This is a disrespectful statement for those who really believe in Hinduism and don't want to see spiteful comments on our religion by those(I could have added spiteful comments here). mr. poonte who in their right mind would say that saying "nuisance religion" (as stated by bkratna in that thread) to hinduism is filled with ideas, not just stale rhetoric that belittles any particular religion (in your own words!). In fact, that was rhetoric and nothing else. So, if san is really serious about going by his word, he should delete that particular thread. |
| Biruwa | Posted
on 24-Feb-04 12:56 PM
Also the hindu attackers, have used different weapons in their arsenal in sajha. When they were attacking bahuns, they were really trying to influence those who belong to a different caste,tribe and race but all the same practice the hindu principles. They were trying to discredit bahuns thus taking aims at hinduism with the same stone. |
| oys_chill | Posted
on 24-Feb-04 02:52 PM
Biruwa jyu, I just wanted to bring to your attention is "san dai is away on a holiday " ...common give him a break will you? he probably has better things to do than scrutinize here in sajhaevery hour what goes on! and whenever possible he's intervened when things have got ugly and personal. and i think, accessing from Nepal might have been a little more difficult... Since its ONLY you who's felt such discrimination for the webmaster, I think you might want to email him your personal issues. :). |
| san | Posted
on 24-Feb-04 03:44 PM
Hi Biruwa, I appreciate you writing your opinion about what is unfortunate about me, after all communication is an integral part of a virtual community such as this. I am sure you understand how difficult it is to please everyone, and I have learnt from the past that most of the time things are better left on their own so that they find their solace in the past archives once the interest in threads die down. Hence I prefer to intervene in the worst case scenarios only. Like in the Bahun bashing thread you mentioned, I had hoped the thread would die out sooner or later but it did not. Not only did it not 'die out', more threads on ethnic bashing started creeping up such as 'newar bashing' and 'chettri bashing'. That was when I had to intervene to classify those as 'our differences'. A virtual community as this is more fun when the community is self perpetuating without the admin having to step in to impose his/her rules. Hence, I choose not to intervene unless the situation is getting out of hand. In the thread on hinduism, you had expressed extreme concern at such a posting. In reading the posting I found it was simply someone expressing his opinions about hinduism. About how hinduism promotes segregation. Anyone is free to express his/her opinion on sajha. This is what sajha is about. You have implied my bias towards the newar community, and if that was true, I would be operating 'newar.com' and not 'sajha.com'. There is no bias towards anyone here who appreciates freedom of expression and respect for individuals. You have implied that I act upon beliefs contrary to mine by deleting them or putting them in obscure places, but then just to set the record straight, it was you who wanted me to delete that posting on Hinduism because his beliefs were contrary to yours. I don't want to get nit picky but that's the final analysis of the situation at hand. As Oys has informed I'm currently in Nepal on vacation and might not be able to check kurakani 20 times a day as when I was in the US, so I might not be able to respond quickly to anyone's query/comments and/or feedbacks. Just yesterday, I was taking a taxi home, and was talking with the taxi driver and he expressed his disdain at how there is no respect for human beings in Nepal. He said, "Hamlai ta manche gandaina." "Ta m*j* koslai hereko bhancha." "Sal*y gadha ramrari chala bhancha." It is in fact so apalling how our culture is so segregated and how our culture/religion promotes class separation. Just because someone is poor and has to work all day to bring food to his family, does not justify other people better of than him to treat him without any respect. I am not a big fan of the practice of such double standards in humanity. In one hand you go "hajur, aisyosh, khaisyosh, laisyosh" and in the other hand you go "ta gadha, yeta aija bhanya hoina?" The form of the word 'you' - 'ta' is only justified in using with friends, brothers and sisters. Using it to talk to others is kind of derogatory. This is just my opinion. I think it is definitely high time we redefined our cultural values, and do away with practices and beliefs that promote social segregation and disrespect for human beings, and focus more on humanitization of our culture. Regards, San - Jet lagged and up since 3 in the morning! |
| ssNY | Posted
on 24-Feb-04 04:38 PM
Hey San, what the heck was that about - your interlude with the taxi driver? Didn't seem anything to do with the topic. Rest were great, though. Even with the jetlag. Biruwa, I assume you are a Bahun, and naturally, a Hindu. I am a Bhote and not a Hindu. Talk about bashing - growing up in Kathmandu, being called 'Sen, Chimai...... ' you fill in the blank, if you even know a little Newari, I do know a thing or two about being bashed. Bashing is the way of life, as wrong as it is. In my own community, I defend you Bahuns more than anyone else anytime Bahuns are blamed for our 'misfortunes' et al. I have to do what I got to do and rise myself above anyone else and not sit there doing nothing about it and take the easy route and blame you guys for my misfortune. No, I'm not that type, just to let you know where I'm coming from. Discussions like bashing Hindus or Bahuns are very appropriate. This is what the free speech is all about and more specifically this site is all about. You are not going to like everything you see here, but then, it is upto you to defend yourself here. Or try to explain your views. Or just educate those 'ignorant' ones. Don't be running to your mommy (San in this case) everytime you feel like you are being bullied by some who are stronger than you are. Try to reason it out. We are all different and we do all have different views. Let's be able to express them. Let us express them. Let us vent them. You come and explain it if you don't agree. And when worse comes to worst - listen to John Lennon's song - Imagine. |
| bhunte | Posted
on 24-Feb-04 05:05 PM
San, any proxy to take charge of any ethnic or religious riots in Sajha while you are away ?? Bicharo teksi diver..chow chow chow!!! he he he... |
| u_day | Posted
on 24-Feb-04 06:05 PM
I think san dai is being unbiased by letting freedom of speech prevail in sajha. Biruwa bro, Will ya stop crying for help??? No offence bro, but if you are offended by bkranta and others' comments, defend yourself. A good defence is the best offence, crying for help is not! |
| eutanepali | Posted
on 24-Feb-04 07:23 PM
Daju Bhai tatha Didi Bahini haru ho I think you guys didn't understand the VIEW Biruwa Daju was trying to express except for didi/bahini/mitra NepaliAngel. I would like to ask all of you to try to understand the real issue here. I love Nepali and this little Nepali community we are all building here on SAjha. OF course the credit goes to San daju and all of the enthusiastic sajhaites. I am not a Hindu by birth but I do acknowledge the fact that people have been bashing Hindus (especially BAHUNS) in one or another ways via several discriminating threads. Same on all of them."The reaction time" and "the topic that encouraged the reactor to react" which of course is none other than our SAN dai caught the special attention of Biruwa daju who appears to be very much offended by the threads posted against Bahuns and HIndus. So, this is very understandable. nepaliAngel's ability to realize the fact is very appreciatable. I hope all of us understand the point here. As of POOOOOOOOONTe dai.... he he Janai ra Paath POOja rey.... hehehhehee waaahhaha dai MANE tapilai chahi Maile Maane. I have known you for several years (Queens/NY(me Ny homie as well) and also few times in BOston and other places)by now and I have never seen you wearing any thread around your body. Not even when you go to your JOB. So, that was funny. And even more funny was your telling people ......PaathPooja....hehehehehe Miller lite, bud lite, hehehe tyestai tyestai Bhundima bharera pani Kahi Pooja paath huncha?? dhaat dajuuu.. tapai lai chhahi khub Manniii.Of course Kaliyug ma.Usma.21st Century ma...tyehi ho pooja paath. Kya baat chha.. Ahile lai chhahi Namaste dai... By the way Malai first time Beer (tyo chhahi Amrit Jaal hola hai) khelaune pani tapai nai ho. And Pyaro sajhaites try to understand and appreciate the real issue Biruwa daju is trying to make us realize, which of course sounds offensice against San dai (whom I do respect a lot) but is a very true fact. Hasta ahile lai Bida chhahanchu. tapai haru jastai Arko-Nepali |
| Rastafariya | Posted
on 24-Feb-04 08:02 PM
Yo Birader Biruwa! You is them keep crying all them time I is not unnerstaning why them you is say peopal is doing hatred here. bkratna, who started that disrespectful thread asks in his starting post: "Most of the follower of hindu religion in Nepal does not know, what is Hindu religion and what should they do, and what they should not do?" I is not unnerstand where this birader bash them Bahuns or them Hindus. We is all say that them Muslims religions infidel thing is them bad. Them means we is bashing them Muslim Biraders? Them fact is them peopal of our religion been bending them rules to put I and I down thru generasions. Is that not fact? Is that I bashing them Bahuns? We is never tell them that them bashed I and I thru generasions. Just like them Taxi Driver episode them my own friends fada address I differently than his other rich friends. Is that Bashing our Culture? Wake up biruwa birader and dont think that them Janai makes you loftier human than I. You needs to have some love in you and accept them truth birader. And why not start preaching them your peopal that I being unable to afford them Cow is still hopes to go to heaven even if I is have to swim across them river. Them peopal been selectively sending peopal to heaven only who can afford them Cow present. I is have tremendous respect for him birader San. As long as we is not being personal and writing hateful things this is how we is learn and put our points. Didnt them peopal always rule I and I? Didnt them always alliance with him Vishnus Reincarnasion? You read them History. It is them History and not Istory. |
| Biruwa | Posted
on 25-Feb-04 08:30 AM
San, I am happy for you that you are able to be in Nepal. I always used to appreciate how tactfully you used to respond to other people's accusation towards you. However, your response in this thread has left much injury to your reputation in my view. I find it appalling that san dai has admitted to sidelining the threads about "...... bashing". Why did you take the thread about "newar bashing" to the "our differences" column? That particular thread did not contain as much venom as even a small part of the Hinduism bashing or other threads. Please admit that you were biased in removing the newar bashing thread and I will be happy to move on. And also please understand that I have no ill-feelings to newars community as a whole. Infact, my best friends are newars and gurungs. San dai has said in the response : It is in fact so appalling how our culture is so segregated and how our culture/religion promotes class separation. San dai has specially related this to the taxi driver incident. Does our religion (i am assuming that san dai also believes in hinduism) encourage mistreatment of taxi drivers? Those who ill-behaved towards the taxi driver did not have any culture and religion to speak of. They may have been born hindus or buddhists but they are not practicing hindus. You are taking the example of these people who are goondas and implying that they represent our culture/religion? This is what I find unfortunate. The action of those misbehaved ones cannot be stuck on the face of our culture or our religion. Infact it is due to the lack of culture and religion that they behaved so. |
| Biruwa | Posted
on 25-Feb-04 08:44 AM
And speaking of taxi drivers reminded me of one incident which shows that some taxi drivers have no culture and religion to speak of. Once my dad and I had gone to buy some stuff in New road. We were going around shopping and pretty soon it became dark as the sun set early in that winter month. At hanuman dhoka entrance from new road we tried getting a taxi. There were a lot of taxis parked there. But we couldn't get them to give us ride home! We approached a taxi. But he said that he was about to go to garage. But no sooner had he said that to us, a foreigner approached the taxi. The driver came out to escort him inside his taxi. This incident happened about 5 years ago. Now, I guess the taxi drivers cannot get so picky due to the lack of foreigner who they can milk cash out of. Would you say that taxi driver believed in any morals except the vice of the cash. This vice, we find incipient in our society. |
| sankaa | Posted
on 25-Feb-04 09:05 AM
dyamnn . too much politics in this post. This post is a mini Nepal itself. Here are ppl, who love to pull others leg for no reason, ppl fighting without understanding the theme, ppl just trying to post big big English without making sense, ppl trying to be smart than others -degrading others.You all are making me sick. btw Biruwa, Do you think only bahuns are hindus?? And if ppl are just having a healthy discussion about hinduism , what is so bad about it? |
| sankaa | Posted
on 25-Feb-04 09:11 AM
Geese Biruwa, just cuz someone wants to make money out of his profession means he has no culture and religion huh? I think, he did what he had to at that point. That is to make money for him and his family. He was there in the first place to make money and what's so wrong about it? it's not like you guys needed some kinda emergency help or anything. Just cuz he didn't fit into your morality/religion criteria means he has not culture and religion??....if so then, maybe you would like to go back and show him how to be a moral and relegious taxi driver?? |
| Rastafariya | Posted
on 25-Feb-04 10:13 AM
Now! Again I is have to writing for him Biruwa. Wow! what an incident birader Biruwa. I is totally agree with you that them this incident is them so true. I is lived with them taxi driver birader all my life and them I is have thousands incidents. Let I explain why him taxi driver them go to them foreigners. I is used to drive around in taxi in them everyday basis. Many times it used to be them your Uncals, Granfadas, cousins who them used to hail da taxi. Of course we is recognise them peopal with them Nepali Topi and Daura Surual and probably coming from them Singha Durbar or them Mantralaya. Anyways we is used to pick them up and takes them to them destinasion to them Baluwataar or whateva taars in them big big houses. When we gets there and them meter is show them 35 Rupees them just take out them 20 Rupees and give I and I. And when we is say something them say "Tero Licene chahindaina ki kya ho saaley". Many them times them is just walk out like them own da taxi without paying. As you is say that is them their moral of your peopal that you is saying birader Biruwa. Most of them time them say "Saala thaagchas? Malai Chinchas?" So go tell them peopal why them treat I and I like that? |
| Biruwa | Posted
on 25-Feb-04 10:29 AM
Leadership has a harder job to do than just choose sides. It must bring sides together. - Jesse Jackson |
| Rastafariya | Posted
on 25-Feb-04 10:33 AM
Yeah! You is right. Looka at them leaders bringing together I and I. Them leaders is nice some taking side with them Vishnu Avataar, Some them calling them Maoists, Some them calling Kangress, Some them calling theyselves whateva whateva. Them all trying to get them bigga bigga mansions and them bigga bigga Pajeros. |
| SITARA | Posted
on 25-Feb-04 10:45 AM
San is just a "kite flier", multi tasking at multiple dhagos. Sometimes the thread get entangled and other times a kite or two get "changa chet". He may not respond in time to save those that go fluttering, circling and diving out of control. And when he does, he may chose the kite/thread that is the most "rangi changi"!!! So, the moral of the story is, "Go fly a kite" when the wind is blowing in other directions.... ( the occasional Feng Shui-st ) ;) |
| sense | Posted
on 25-Feb-04 11:04 AM
hell yeah Biruwa ...I back u up in this matter...why is it always that wehenever a discussion is made over hinduism people tend to relate the bad practise on bahuns.....mind u guys Hinduism is something more than bahunism...n by blaming bahuns u r in noway making any contributions to ur religion...why was a dalit not allowed to enter a temple? the most likely answer is coz bahuns didnt give them to do so...but isnt it his incompetency that he couldnt fight against it? where in this regard has religion played a role? lets not get it surfacial....the word hinduism has more than just bahunism. |
| eutaNepali | Posted
on 25-Feb-04 01:35 PM
Can we AVOID The irritating Languages here. Reading the irritating languages even when the content is intellectual makes people go nuts at times. Yes, this Sajha secures the freedom of rights to every single user here but doesn't it make sense to type properly rather than try to be an engimatic freak trying to catch the attention of readers by a cheaper means instead of the more thoughtful postings?? With all the due respect to the owner of such languages I am just asking him/her to write in more proper languages such that all the people may enjoy the content of the posting and not only by selected few. NO thing personal against anyone. It's just me. No authority figue speaking here. ANd yes Biruwa you are right about what you had expressed as your concerns for what the Administrative Body (figure) did seemingly inappropriate. I didn't even get to see those threads he had deleted or placed somewhere else. It will be fairer if all the threads were treated with same equity. Arko Nepali |
| Rastafariya | Posted
on 25-Feb-04 03:18 PM
Yo them birader Euta Nepali what them is yo probilam with them language? That what them nice nice peopal tell I that I is not speak good Just because I is not know how to say them Bakshiyos, Disiyos and all. I is never no ask you to read nothing here. Them your peopal of religion been calling I and I freak thru generasion just because I and I is not do them according to what them likes. Now in da 21 century you is still have that in your systam. Birader you is needs to change it. This Forum here is not for them enjoyment only. Them there is enjoy thread where them peopal write jokes,humours, songs etc. Yo birader sense! You is still not making no sense to yourself. First of why them not mension them bad practice of them Bahuns? Maybe you wants I to mension bad practice of Tamangs, Limbus or Thakalis when we is discussing them bad things about Hindu Religion. Oh! I is sorry birader Sense. It is them stupid to mension them bad practices of Bahuns. Because them Hindu Religion is been being Dictated by them Tamangs thru da generasions with da help of them Limbus.Maybe it was them Gurungs. |
| ssNY | Posted
on 25-Feb-04 06:41 PM
Rastafariya - smoke all you want and speak (or type) just the way you want. You do make us devote more time trying to understand what the heck you're talking about... but again, you are, I'm sure, an egoistic maniac who wants to have his own trademark way of being here on Sajha. All the power to you. Limbu, Tamang, Bahun...... LATER DUDE! |
| Rastafariya | Posted
on 25-Feb-04 09:38 PM
Birader ssNY that is what I is talkin about here all them time. Why them you is judge I? I is not askin any peopal anything. Them your peopal askin and I is just answer. What you is talkin about birader? Just because I is difference you is calling I egoistic and trademak. That what them peopal do to I and I all thru generasions. You say all them power to I. I is never talk nothing about power. Why them you is feeling so shy birader ssNY? Just because I is talkin them truth? I think you is them great peopal. Just like them great peopal leading I and I in Nepal. Power is all them yours birader ssNY. |
| Biruwa | Posted
on 26-Feb-04 07:08 AM
Here is my small contribution to sajha. I have been doing yog for years now. I may no longer remember the names of each individual ‘asan’ but I can say with confidence that I have become one with ‘yog’. So you may call me a yogi – the one who practices yog. The other day I was talking to my girlfriend. We talked about the crescent moon and the happenings of this creature world – we talked about so many things. Then the topic changed to yog. She was interested in learning yog and asked me to teach her a thing or two about yog. Thus my narration of Surya namaskar started. I began by telling her how to do yog. Of course, there was a major problem. She couldn’t see me, neither could I see her. It was not that we were blind. You see, at this time we were physically seven seas apart and were talking through that boon of communication – yahoo instant messenger. Still I went ahead and tried explaining to her about the basics of Surya namaskar. I began: i: You do this yog early in the morning as the sun rises in the eastern horizon. First stand facing east with your feet together. Make the namaste pose bringing your hands in front of your chest (am I gender insensitive? :-)). Breathing in, raise your hands (still in the namaste pose) above your head. Now slowly bend backwards taking care not to fall back. she: ok, I won’t fall down :-) btw, what is this asan called? i: Oh, I don’t know the names of each of those asans. Little did I know at that time that this asan goes by the majestic name of ‘ardha-chandrasan’ - the half-moon pose. I went on… i: Now bring your toe to your hand. she(puzzled): what? i (grinning): I mean touch your toe with your hand. Obviously, you need to bend forward to do this. she (gaining confidence): right! I (with purpose): Then, in the next pose do as the runners do when they are about to hear the starting gun go off. Except do this with far less tension and a little more stretching as you look upwards to look as the eastern horizon. In the first half cycle put your right foot forward and in the next half cycle put your left foot forward. For the next pose do as the muslims do. she: you mean when they do their namaz? i: You know, when they touch their horehead to the ground while praying as they show in TV. Actually there is this yog asan just like that, except while you do this, you stretch your hand as far forward as possible. Next lie down completely. she: lie down? i: Yes, with your face facing the ground, just completely submit yourself before the Sun God. In other words do the ‘Santang Dandawat’. Then collect yourself and raise your hips to do the “Himalaya asan’. she: Hey, hold on! There seems to be so many positions in this what did you say? – surya namaskar?. i: Yes, there are 12 positions in Surya namaskar. But once you practice this yourself, you will find that one position flows into the next and comes pretty easy. Well after the himalaya asan stand up with your hands doing namaskar to the Sun again and that completes your one-half of the cycle. That was how I tried to relay the different poses of ‘Surya Namaskar” to my girlfriend. In the beginning she used to ask me what pose to do after which. She told me yesterday that she does it everyday in the morning. You too should try the sequence of ‘Surya Namaskar’ to realize the flexibility that you gain from this exercise. |
| San | Posted
on 26-Feb-04 08:59 AM
Biruwa, you said: "I find it appalling that san dai has admitted to sidelining the threads about "...... bashing". Why did you take the thread about "newar bashing" to the "our differences" column? That particular thread did not contain as much venom as even a small part of the Hinduism bashing or other threads. Please admit that you were biased in removing the newar bashing thread and I will be happy to move on. And also please understand that I have no ill-feelings to newars community as a whole. Infact, my best friends are newars and gurungs." I find it interesting that you want me to admit being biased - based on baseless information. If you read nepali_angel's posting in this thread she has pointed out that the particular thread on Newar Bashing was not deleted and it has not been moved to 'our differences' section as you would have seen if you had taken a moment to visit OurDifferences usergroup. I would urge you as a well wisher to get all your facts straight before throwing baseless accusations. Please be assured that I did not take it personally. Just wanted to bring the actual fact to your attention. Best wishes, San |
| Trixy | Posted
on 26-Feb-04 11:18 AM
Rasta.. Hear me now! .. ey ey..I totally dig ur style man.. im not here to quibble abt San cz i dont knw wat u is all on abt..hehe... But those bumbaclatsz who are cussing ur lingo stylee js ignore dem, cz it duznt bother me at all, its ace, ignore doze cussin ya! Keep it up Rasta! Big up to u Bruda.. Peace out..X |
| u_day | Posted
on 26-Feb-04 03:43 PM
Biruwa, Here is my small contribution to sajha. Do it everyday! Turn on your computer and get online. When you are connected to the internet, open you r browser and type www.sajha.com in your browser. When the page opens up, click on one of the links of Ads by google. That will help in longevity of the site. Happy sajhaing (posting your brain out) !!! |
| ssNY | Posted
on 26-Feb-04 07:06 PM
Yo Rasta. Didn't meant to diss you man (or maaaaan). Thought your wriitng was so hard to understand, yet informative, my writing was even worse, as straight as I wanted to write. I was supporting you, maaaaaan. Power? No power with me, but thought to give support to your own way of writing. If it is so hard for me to read and understand your writing, I can't imagine how hard it is for you to really write the way you do. So, hats off to you. One question on upcoming Nepali band performing in the US... what do you think about Nepathaya? Are they good, any good? Where woud you put them in comparison to 1974 AD. Say the 1974 AD are 5 (1 to 10), just for the arugument's sake. Would you come? Would you bring your friends or reccomend them to come see them? |
| Rastafariya | Posted
on 26-Feb-04 09:51 PM
Birade ssNY them no peopal can never diss I. I is just a simpal peopal. How can them anyone diss simpal peopal? I is them have nothing to diss. I knows them it hard for you to read but it not hard to unnerstand. It not them hard for I to write never. I is can write faster than you is can them say anything. For them your Quesion . I is them last peopal you wants to ask. I is not them knowing no music. But I loves music and I is dance anytime. I is always open them radio and them lisen and them dance. I is even dance in them Krishi Karyakram and them Khabar. I is not know how to comparison. But yes I is go to them any music porgiram if you is buy I them tickets. So let I know birader ssNY |
| Kancho | Posted
on 27-Feb-04 07:15 AM
Kuro ra kulo jata lagay ni jancha! |
| ou812 | Posted
on 27-Feb-04 07:26 AM
At the outset let me apologise for posing a question totally out of topic. Rasta, that bit on dancing to samachar and krishi darshan taken from Tom Robbins - "Even cowgirls get the blues". There is an extraordinary character in that novel, who lives in a cave, dances to Clockwork, Rock and Roll, Bollero and News. Services ladies from the Ranch too :o) |
| Trixy | Posted
on 27-Feb-04 07:36 PM
Hey sorry for my off track question but can ssNy or sum1plz tell me if Nepathya is comn 2 England? I wana go defo c dem perform n dont want to miss out as i misd out on 1974 A.D.. Appreciate if any1 knwz.. cheerz! Trixy |
| Bramha | Posted
on 27-Feb-04 09:05 PM
I love your writing style Rastrafariya. Everybody, it's difficult to understand in the begining but very fun to read after a while....Try it out guys...and RastraFariya..You, my experiment of creation (see my title is "Bramha"), are doing excellent job, keep it up your unique style.... Cheers |
| u_day | Posted
on 27-Feb-04 09:29 PM
Is Kurakani turning into a RELIGION battle feild in cyberspace??? Most of the threads I see in kurakani these days have something to do with religion.... what's going on san dai??? Need your attention asap. |
| ssNY | Posted
on 28-Feb-04 07:44 AM
Trixy - There was a thread earlier announcing the Nepathya's tour to Europe and the U.S. It said Nepathya was coming to perform at ANA meeting in Phoenix, AZ and would be doing tours as well. But that thread is gone from the Sajha land and the ANA 2004 website has no info on their coming. So, to tell you the truth, I have no idea if they are coming, either to England or here on this side of the pond.... But, I'm sure, there will be a lot of Kurakani here, if they are actually coming. u_day - San can of course answer you himself, but I just thought to add that religion and politics are two topics people say one shouldn't talk about at parties etc.. They are the topics that bring our a lot of emotion and a lot of noise. Sajhaland is no different from any meeting place, albeit in cyberworld. Only thing one can actually do something about the topic(s) one or the other don't like is to be censored! You don't really want that, do you? |
| Rastafariya | Posted
on 28-Feb-04 12:35 PM
Him Birader Biruwa Asana Master? Now him do asana? |
| sankaa | Posted
on 28-Feb-04 12:43 PM
ha ha.. waaaaupp birader Rastha? long time no see in sajha chat room birader... how is you? I wish i knew such kwel kwel aasana too.. maybe i could pick up some new era (??) girls from cali if i knew themm..too bad.. only asana i know is them " hagaasana" that i do every morning stilling on the toilet bowl... would someone be intersted to learn that?... i also know some other asana.. but i can't really give details in here; San birader will block me ... boi boi... |
| Rastafariya | Posted
on 28-Feb-04 03:14 PM
Yo birader Sankaa! them many time I is not see you too. I is very nice birader Sankaa. Birader, You is go and ask him Biruwa birader for them asanas. Him Asana Guruji. I also knowing them haagasana and them mutaasana. I also knowing many asaanas but them asaanas only done when them there is dark . |
| Bhunte | Posted
on 28-Feb-04 06:40 PM
yo rasta birdar, how is you? you is see gunna birdar also here? you is making guleli and matyangra to hit birdar lovely bird? how are you CEO life? I is nice to see you after many long time... |
| Trixy | Posted
on 28-Feb-04 06:56 PM
Cheerz anywz ssNY.....X Trixy |
| Rastafariya | Posted
on 28-Feb-04 09:20 PM
Yo birader Bhunte! I is very very nice nice. How them is you? I is not see him Gunna birader. I is them have Guleli but I is no more have matyengra. Them many lovely birds but I is just see them fly because I is have no mo Matyengra left. Them my CEO life is very very nice. Them many responsibilities. How them is your life? You meet him Shravan Birader? |
| raider | Posted
on 29-Feb-04 03:19 AM
Dherai papi manche haru - tyo teti ramro geet gaune Jureli, Bhadrayo, Kalchuda haru lai kasari marne? |
| Bhunte | Posted
on 29-Feb-04 03:41 AM
yo birdar rasta, I is good good here. I is invite Sharvan birdar them place. I is hope someday to meet them birdar again. |
| raider | Posted
on 29-Feb-04 05:23 AM
Rasta, tetro CEO bhayeko manche anta ajjahi pani chara churungi mardai hidne? Aphu chai nice nice bhayera basne - anta bichara chara haru lai chai nice nice bhayera basnu nadine? Tyo ta sarhai nice nice para bhayena ni!! |
| Rastafariya | Posted
on 29-Feb-04 08:32 AM
Yo Birader Peopal! I is told you that I is no more do that. Them I is old now. Them my Gulali no more work like before. |