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| bhunte |
Posted
on 03-Mar-04 01:48 PM
Congratulation to Dr. Bhes Bahadur Thapa for his new role as the Foreign Minister!
US trained economist is now the Foreign Minister.
Note: My congratulation has no political color, but for his outstanding achievemnts in national service, and of course being in same profession.
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| gsubedi |
Posted
on 03-Mar-04 01:59 PM
Personally I was impressed when he was around as an ambassador.ONCE IN A WHILE we get people appointed who can not even express themselves. In terms of job performance I have no idea. I hope he does good to us and poor Nepali at home.
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| Prem Charo |
Posted
on 03-Mar-04 02:42 PM
Aba arko ek jana le pani ghus khaane mauka paayo.
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| kancho |
Posted
on 03-Mar-04 02:47 PM
Same profession? Economists ki Foreign Ministry (as in Diplomacy)?
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| bhunte |
Posted
on 03-Mar-04 02:48 PM
Prem Charo ki gidde dristi...j/k
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| bhunte |
Posted
on 03-Mar-04 02:53 PM
Kancho, to be exact the former one...There is no (??) degree in Diplomacy as such, but International Relation.
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| kancho |
Posted
on 03-Mar-04 02:54 PM
Ye! Mailay profession sodheko. Degree haina :)
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| bhunte |
Posted
on 03-Mar-04 02:56 PM
to be tied with the profession, you need to earn the related degree...otherwise a compounder will be a doctor, a sudeni like a nurse, a khalasi a driver, ...you name it...
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| kancho |
Posted
on 03-Mar-04 02:59 PM
Not necessarily. If someone asks you "K garnu huncha?" "Bywasaye k ho yehako?" would you say "Mailay Economics ma degree liyeko?" :)
And to work on a certain profession you don't necessarily have to have the degree in same field, do you? :)
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| bhunte |
Posted
on 03-Mar-04 03:04 PM
yes, you are right to work in blue collar type of works...
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| kancho |
Posted
on 03-Mar-04 03:06 PM
Don't think so. I know several people who are working in Software/database/computer field with a degree in economics and others. Our San bro is one example. You don't think he's a blue collar worker, is he? :)
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| garibjanata |
Posted
on 03-Mar-04 03:10 PM
Congrats for what ? for being one of the most bhagyamani panches ?
bhunte do you mean ' personal service' i.e., Afno, sywasni ko, chora ko, chori haru ko service?
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| bhunte |
Posted
on 03-Mar-04 03:13 PM
You are true, but be sure to check statistics or economics related softwares require statistician/economists with a great deal of knowledge in mathematics/programming language, etc.....It is also true that to do a politics don't require any related degree though. Your view of profession in a broader term which i don't disagree.
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| bhunte |
Posted
on 03-Mar-04 03:16 PM
garibjanta, you can verify that. he is not living in Mahal. He has the same kind of jupadi as average kathmanduite has. his chhora chhori srimati all are like working bees. sachhai bhanne ho bhane his daughter is renting a flat in ktm some time ago. Oosko aru ko jasto das wota mahal chhaina...correct me if i am wrong...
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| kancho |
Posted
on 03-Mar-04 03:21 PM
But what if your work doesn't relate anything with the stat/econ/finance related software or market even though your degree is in econ? It might be true in "highly specialized profession" such as a surgery and astronomy, but in general, people who have earned a degree in one field have gone on to be succesful in completely unrelated fields. So your posting no 6, 8, & 10 aren't necessarily true.
As a friend of mine used to say, "Bhandai ma huncha?" :)
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| bhunte |
Posted
on 03-Mar-04 03:32 PM
According to a Dictionary you might want to read what profession means. You can fit yourself per definition.
pro·fes·sion ( P ) Pronunciation Key (pr-fshn)
n.
An occupation or career: “One of the highest compliments a child can pay a parent is to choose his or her profession” (Joan Nathan).
An occupation, such as law, medicine, or engineering, that requires considerable training and specialized study.
The body of qualified persons in an occupation or field: members of the teaching profession.
An act or instance of professing; a declaration.
An avowal of faith or belief.
A faith or belief: believers of various professions.
Source: The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition
Copyright © 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company.
Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.
profession
( P ) profession: log in for this definition of profession and other entries in Merriam-Webster Medical Dictionary, available only to Dictionary.com Premium members.
Source: Merriam-Webster Medical Dictionary, © 2002 Merriam-Webster, Inc.
profession
\Pro*fes"sion\, n. [F., fr. L. professio. See Profess, v.] 1. The act of professing or claiming; open declaration; public avowal or acknowledgment; as, professions of friendship; a profession of faith.
A solemn vow, promise, and profession. --Bk. of Com. Prayer.
2. That which one professed; a declaration; an avowal; a claim; as, his professions are insincere.
The Indians quickly perceive the coincidence or the contradiction between professions and conduct. --J. Morse.
3. That of which one professed knowledge; the occupation, if not mechanical, agricultural, or the like, to which one devotes one's self; the business which one professes to understand, and to follow for subsistence; calling; vocation; employment; as, the profession of arms; the profession of a clergyman, lawyer, or physician; the profession of lecturer on chemistry.
Hi tried five or six professions in turn. --Macaulay.
Note: The three professions, or learned professions, are, especially, theology, law, and medicine.
4. The collective body of persons engaged in a calling; as, the profession distrust him.
5. (Eccl. Law.) The act of entering, or becoming a member of, a religious order.
Source: Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary, © 1996, 1998 MICRA, Inc.
profession
n 1: the body of people in a learned occupation; "the news spread rapidly through the medical community" [syn: community] 2: an occupation requiring special education (especially in the liberal arts or sciences) 3: an open avowal (true or false) of some belief or opinion; "a profession of disagreement" [syn: professing] 4: affirmation of acceptance of some religion or faith; "a profession of Christianity"
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| Kancho |
Posted
on 03-Mar-04 03:36 PM
So does that mean San bro ko job oosko profession haina ta? :)
And likewise Dr. Thapa was trained in economics, but has been in diplomatic area for a long time. So even though he has worked several years in that field, it won't be considered his "profession?"
Feri eik choti - "Bhandai ma huncha ra?" :)
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| bhunte |
Posted
on 03-Mar-04 03:42 PM
i think you seem to be heard of him working only in diplomatic area. FYI he was Fin min, governer, ambassadors, UN missions, and when not in any of those positions working in a consulting firm. What do you say of Dr Upendra Devkota?
I have no idea of San. Only thing i know he owns Sajha.
Feri ek palta "Ke karan le hundaina ta kanchho?"
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| jaya_nepal |
Posted
on 03-Mar-04 07:21 PM
Congratulations to Dr Thapa.
Well he did not get there through any political means. Its all result of his hardwork and love for his mother nation. Best Wished Dr Thapa....!!!
jaya_nepal..
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| chinausbusiness |
Posted
on 03-Mar-04 07:50 PM
Dr. Thapa is a failure. He could not raise any issues with the Indian counterpart as the Ambassador. He might be 'fun' to be with, very friendly guy and mabye doesn't have mahal's in kathmandu.
He is a "panche" by all means. My grandfather and him are good friends from Gandaki. They are both loyal pancha friends.
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| garibjanata |
Posted
on 03-Mar-04 08:51 PM
Bhunte, I agree to disagree with you. I am sure Mr.Thapa, has oodles of money to live like a king in Nepal. And even after having so much of money- if he prefers to stay in a hut -then he must be a miser.
And, how do you know about the thapas' financial status ? Are you Bhaskar Thapa or what?
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| karmapa |
Posted
on 03-Mar-04 09:03 PM
Might be a good idea to take stock of what Dr. Thapa has done. Well if you met him at an embassy reception where he gave an after-dinner speech with a high feel-good factor and smiled profusely, well you can congratulate him on being a gracious host. But that still doesn't say anything about his performance as an ambassador-cum-diplomat. It is surely better to ask what are his durable achievements (tangible)...rather than say
"Oh well don't you know, he was 'extremely popular', in fact, he is our 'wonder boy'", he is a 'rising star'".
Frankly I think in his capacity as ambassador to India , Dr. Thapa was not able to sensitise the New Delhi government to the plight of the refugees...and now he is paying for it dearly. It is he who's now scrambling to internationalise the issue after the Khundabari fiasco. He refused to meet Dr. Tek Nath Rijal before heading off for Thimpu for the last talk. Wondering whether he even represents the interests of the refugees. He is basically a diplomat - not a negotiator - and that I think is where the mistake lies. The Bhutanese govt. has now very smartly painted him in a corner - no wonder he seems all flustered in TV inteviews. What had Dr. Thapa been doing all these years when he was posted a stone throw away from the power centre in New Delhi - which is the best place to influence anything happening in SAARC region from?
The last joint Ministerial Talk was a hush-hush (he admitted there had been some behind the scene verbal agreements with his Bhutanese counterpart, which were not publicly disclosed, well so much for transparency!!!!)...and he contented himself with the Bhutanese assurance that their government would resettle the refugees belonging in some of the categories as per the 'liberal interpretations of the law of the land'. Frankly I think the law of the land is so draconian that you can interpret it only in one way, and not liberally. Isn't that what the word 'draconian' connotes anyway? He admitted in a TV interview that he didn't even read what the law of the land was. So if this is how foreign policy is conducted, well God Help Nepal. He prematurely hailed the last talk as ' a breakthrough' - well had it indeed been a breakthrough (as subsequent developments proved it was not) - well I would have had no qualms even if he was recommended for the position of the Prime Minister of Nepal, in fact I would be singing his praise.
They say one is is as good as one's last performance... judging by Dr. Thapa's last performance, there is nothing to write home about.
In all fairness to Dr. Thapa...the task entrusted to him was Herculean and paralysing (due to the accumulation of a series of past errors made by the Nepali side), but this is not to say that he didn't make a couple of grave mistakes of his. The result is plain to see: Repatriation, which he predicted would begin last February, is not happening - the talk is stalled. Bhutan is not budging.
Now that the Panches have taken over, and since they reward loyalty more than achievements, I'm not surprised if he is recommended to the post of a foreign minister.
Who cares what degree he holds?
I don't understand why Sajhaites hold in such high regard a degree in economics ( I hold one myself!!!) vis-a-via other degrees. A degree is just a start..but there are other factors which are more important for public service. If anybody is riding on the strength of his/her degree and the reputation of the university he/she graduated from rather than his/her own track record (decades after he/she's graduated)- then I think there is something seriously flawed. More often than not a degree and university have been a smokescreen/protective shield for people's other shortcomings, failings and complacency. Take the case in point: sometimes I tell my friend that that that public speaker's argument is crap, and he goes "But don't you know he holds a degree in this and that from Cornell University." Not content, I question the same speaker in a public lecture and the audience goes silent and looks at me with accusing eyes that say "How dare you?" Now I have stopped head-banging. Are you crazy, I want my hair look well-combed and slick.
Just my two cents worth.
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| Biswo |
Posted
on 03-Mar-04 09:51 PM
I don't congratulate anyone in khetala council of ministership. To me, to congratulate someone for being appointed to a slavelike position doesn't make sense. The day Dr Thapa becomes minister by winning an election, and the day Dr Thapa owe allegiance to people rather than a weird king, I will congratulate him.
Dr Thapa is an intellectual man. No doubt. More educated than previous foreign ministers like Chakra Bastola, or Shailendra K. Upadhyay. But it will be in public's interest to know what he accomplished during his New Delhi tenure.
The 'normalization' of Indo-Nepali relationship? May be. But no one in their serious mind thought Air India would stop flying to its cash making destination, Kathmandu, forever. Air India , my friends, was in need of money too. How was our relationship normalized? Did India fulfilled any promise regarding stopping the dam down there in Kapilbastu? How about Kalapani issue? We have more than 50(according to a speech by Dr Badri Narayan Shrestha) flashpoints along India-Nepal border. I had suggested to Dr Shrestha that we immediately initiate some kind of give-and-take formula that we used in China-Nepal border talk in 2016. Unless we come up with some kind of solution to the problems of land encroachment, the border issue is going to come up again and again, and our ambassador did nothing regarding that. Did we get any trade agreement that helped us? Please enlighten me what he did in New Delhi that can be branded 'success'.
If normalizing relationship means helping the rulers of the kingdom in gaining favorable view in Indian leadership circle, then Vijay Shamsher of 2007 would be considered the best. Remember that BP's connection among leadership notwithstanding, Vijaya was actually able to make Mohan Shamsher prime minister even after the 'revolution'.
And so diplomatic was Dr Thapa sometimes that once he said something like '(targetting the Europeans who criticized his deal with Bhutanese government) tiniharule sharanaarthi aafnai desh lage hunchha...' I guess he forgot who was feeding the refugees since decades.
I hope he solves the refugee problem before democratically elected government swears in. This refugee problem was inherited by democratic Nepal from the Panchayat rule. If Gyanendra and Bhekh Bdr together solve this problem, best wishes to them, and they will be thanked to rectifying one of the earlier mistakes of the system which they probably still admire.
Btw, anybody knows where he got his PhD from? I'm just curious.
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| ashu |
Posted
on 03-Mar-04 10:34 PM
Karmapa wrote:
"If anybody is riding on the strength of his/her degree and the reputation of the university he/she graduated from rather than his/her own track record (decades [or YEARs] after he/she's graduated)- then I think there is something seriously flawed. More often than not a degree and university have been a smokescreen/protective shield for people's other shortcomings, failings and complacency."
Very, very well said.
My own working rule of thumb while attending various seminars and workshops in Kathmandu is this: The rate at which a Nepali brings up the name of his or her august university in an irrelevantly SELF-REFERENTIAL mode is inversely proportional to the quality of his/her thoughts and arguments.
In Nepal and among middle- to upperclass Nepalis, though, there's almost an obsecene tendency to fetishize big-name American universities . . . a practice that amuses me
greatly.
Then again, at the end of the day, what you do and how you do count a lot more than where you went to school 5, 10, 15 and 30 years ago.
oohi
"today is yet ANOTHER Nepal Bandh"
ashu
ktm,nepal
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| bhunte |
Posted
on 04-Mar-04 02:58 AM
biswo ji, DrBBT graduated from Claremont Graduate School in Southern California. There are some seats vacant and you might be hand picked from Nagarjun summer palace hai....ha ha ha
Ashu, allured in Karmapa's bait? Watch out where you are stepping--probably on kera ko bokra. Focus on the congratulatory thread to paschhim...i will be there soon
Karmapa, you seem to be very frustated over your degree (if you have any!!) and educational instituion unfortunately. Cheer up man......ha ha ha...
About his achievements in India, why should he bear the poor performance of past sterile governments? A lot of time bilateral relationships depends on the type and quality of the national government, not on ambassador.
About bhutan issue, you all know how fragile the situation there is, how india is backing up bhutan. even God wouldn't be a much help. however, he was able to compromise a deal to repatrate 12,000 bhutani-nepali. of course bhutan did gaddari later. what deal one was able to see in ram saran's finance ministership?
About knowing the land of law, no one learn by heart alll the dhara and oopa dharas there. it is the job of beaurocracy there, which is not strong.....
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| saroj |
Posted
on 04-Mar-04 05:56 AM
Bhunte you should get institutionalized to cure you of your multiple personality disorder spelled SPARK. You might also learn there to mind your own business and learn to stop trying to psychoanalyze everyone.
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| el diablo |
Posted
on 04-Mar-04 05:59 AM
Biswo,
Air India doesn't fly to Nepal, it's Indian Airlines.
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I think BBT did a better job as the Nepalese envoy to the US. He had cultivated a very good rapport with the ppl in the Reagan adminstration. He used to occassionally play tennis with then Sec'y of State, George Shultz.
That sort of connection was vital in getting all sorts of aid packages for Nepal in the early 80s.
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Ashu, Bravo! I guess you don't casually mention that you attended HAAVAAD once in a while, do you?
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| isolated freak |
Posted
on 04-Mar-04 06:43 AM
My congratulations to Dr. Thapa. Late Prof. Merrill Godall who was the advisor and one of his political economics Profs. at CGU (then CGS) spoke very highly of him. Dr. Thapa, who holds the record for being the youngest policy maker Nepal ever had, has proved his worth time and again while negotiating with India on trade/economics related issues.
This is a good news for all of us 5 +1 CC + CGU grads. Go Claremonters GO!
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| isolated freak |
Posted
on 04-Mar-04 07:32 AM
"He is basically a diplomat - not a negotiator - and that I think is where the mistake lies."
Karmapa, this is not what the old bureaucrats and negotiators would say about Dr. Thapa. Many ex-foreign and commerce secretaries and ministers have only praises for him.
" (he admitted there had been some behind the scene verbal agreements with his Bhutanese counterpart, which were not publicly disclosed, well so much for transparency!!!!)..."
This is a standard practice in negotiations/talks. There are rounds and rounds of unpublicized/secret negotiations before the formal ones. For example, Libya and the UK negotiate for nine months before finally making public that they would hold "further" talks on the Libyan issue.
Also note, there are not many governmnets in the world that make everything from the major international negotiations/talks public. The information is strictly on need-to-know basis, i.e, if you are one of the members of the talks or the body that has the responsibilty to implement what's been agreed upon, then you know. Nobody else needs to know for a certain period of time. Its called "ClASSIFIED" information.
If you want to know more about these secret negotiations without having to read any book, watch "the 50 years war". The Israelis and the Palestanians held secret negotiations in the past.
It is easy to criticize someone. However, it takes a lot of self evaluation and talents to appreciate someone's talents.
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| isolated freak |
Posted
on 04-Mar-04 07:37 AM
This is a standard practice in negotiations/talks. There are rounds and rounds of unpublicized/secret negotiations before the formal ones. For example, Libya and the UK negotiate for nine months before finally making public that they would hold "further" talks on the Libyan issue.
Read this as:
This is a standard practice in negotiations/talks. There are rounds and rounds of unpublicized/secret negotiations before the formal ones. And unles everything is finalzied, certain things are kept secret. For example, Libya and the UK negotiated for nine months before finally making public that they would hold "further" talks on the Libyan issue. It took the UK 9 months of secret negotiations to make Libya give up on its nuclear program.
Also, China and the US held secret negotiations in 1972. Henry Kissinger flew secretly to Beijing from Islamabad to hold talks with the Chiense leaders. It was only after a few months, and after finalizing the dates for Nixon's histiric visit, Kissinger's secret visits were made public.
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| isolated freak |
Posted
on 04-Mar-04 07:41 AM
Again correction: Kissinger flew secretly to China in 1971.
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| kalabati |
Posted
on 04-Mar-04 08:09 AM
panche thapa ka paanch thapa
surye
bhesh
kamal
pyarajung
shyam bhakta
aru thap thapa
nagendra
harendra
aru join bhanja ...........
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| Biswo |
Posted
on 04-Mar-04 09:16 AM
> About his achievements in India, why
> should he bear the poor performance
> of past sterile governments?
What do you mean by this? All I was asking was what he did to term his tenure 'success'? What do you mean by 'sterile' governments?
> A lot of time bilateral relationships
> depends on the type and quality
>of the national government, not
>on ambassador.
Then why should one rush to judge someone a 'success'?
All I am asking is I am curious as to know why Dr Thapa was repeatedly called 'success'? I don't know what was the special thing he did that his predecessors couldn't do. Bhutanese refugee deal folded already while he is still FM. How can that be termed success?
>About bhutan issue, you all know how
> fragile the situation there is, how india
> is backing up bhutan. even God
>wouldn't be a much help.
Yes. That's why no one should bother to claim 'success' even before a single Bhutanese is repatriated. I am sick and tired of these ingratiating terms given to the fellas who are in power.
>however, he was able to compromise
> a deal to repatrate 12,000 bhutani-nepali.
> of course bhutan did gaddari later.
> what deal one was able to see in
> ram saran's finance ministership?
What deal? What compromise? As a citizen, I don't see anything improving. If tomorrow I were to be FM, the problems are there for me to solve.
Look, you don't get congratulated for APPLYING to Harvard. You get congratulated for being ADMITTED to Harvard. Similarly, you don't get congratulation for brokering a deal that doesn't work.
As for Dr Mahat's ministership, well he didn't claim he solved the case. He wasn't loudmouth.
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| Biswo |
Posted
on 04-Mar-04 09:29 AM
el diablo:
Thanks for pointing out the mistake regarding Indian Airlines . Anyway, replace IA with AI, and my statement is same.
Many thanks again.
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| bihan |
Posted
on 04-Mar-04 10:27 AM
I really don't know who to congratulate. Over the past three decades or more, the country has become poorer and poorer. It tops the list of the poorest countries while our politicians and planners and their families have prospered. Much part of last three decades, Dr. Thapa and Dr. Lohani have been on the driver seat of economic planning or in policy making/influencing in one way or the other. Yes, we should nail down those politicians and bureacrats who have hidden wealth disproportionate to their known income but I would also ask the following questions of these two leaders who are currently in the cabinet:
a)Declare your property publicly, including the property of your family
b)How much income tax have you paid in last thirty years; make it known to public
c)Why the contry has become poorer and poorer over the years? What are the ills? Why the same people who could not bring about good results are put in the helm of the power again and again. Well, keep trying to hit the jackpot.
d)What are the ills of the country that are not moving forward? Sure, we had not heard of Maobadis during the Pancha days? Why the country could not begin to prosper then?
f)Can someone do a report card on both Drs Thapa and Lohani?
So, congatulate whom?? We are stuck in congratulating each other for what?
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| bhunte |
Posted
on 04-Mar-04 10:35 AM
If anyone who is not familiar with Mr. George Shulze is suggested to google...
Biswo, enough materials for you to think??
Saroj ko pagal khana kasto chaldai chha bhanya? Buziness ramrai chaldai chha? To be involved in a politics, your magaj must be sadde. Sorry, you are ineligible....ha ha ha...Ani churos khana lai ek rupiya magna ayeko yeha?? ha ha ha GO Dutch Go....
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| Biswo |
Posted
on 04-Mar-04 11:03 AM
>Biswo, enough materials for you to think??
Bhunte, I am not very comfortable with questions as answers. To me, you are just trying to assume a posture that you don't possess: that you don't have anything to provide us as to why Dr Thapa's Delhi tenure was termed successful.
As for google search, I don't believe everything that turns up there is correct. Professors in graduate schools therefore always discourage people to look answers in google and be assure of its veracity.
The name of George Shulze (you mean secretary of state George Schultz?) may mean a lot to you. Not to me. If you are trying to influence American policy towards Nepal now, you better start playing pingpong with Colin Powell.
Finally, a man's mind is too luminous to be caged in. There is nothing such as 'enough' for someone to 'think'. There are always more materials to think. People comfortable with autocratic confinement love to say that there are enough materials to think for people, because they think that people with conscience and thoughtfulness are danger to them, and I always have issue with that. I want people to think more. To analyze more.I want Nepali people to think more about what they talk, what they do, what they are going through, and make rational decisions. Any let up in thinking process is obstruction to one's goal of attaining enlightenment.
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| saroj |
Posted
on 04-Mar-04 11:16 AM
Bhunte and Spark dui jana le bhayeko ley mero pagal khana ramrari chali rakheko chha. Shhh don't tell them they are both one person suffering from multiple personality disorder.
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| bhunte |
Posted
on 04-Mar-04 01:13 PM
Saroj, keep on smelling my ass. we need pagal like you. ha ha ha
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| bhunte |
Posted
on 04-Mar-04 01:15 PM
Biswo, so what? bhat pugena ki ke ho teso bhaye...
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| ashu |
Posted
on 04-Mar-04 05:19 PM
El Diablo wrote:
"Ashu, Bravo! I guess you don't casually mention that you attended HAAVAAD once in a while, do you?"
As a matter of fact, I don't have to.
At all.
Why?
Because I can always reliably count on well-wishers like you to publicly mention it on
my behalf without any prompting from me whatsoever . . . as in this case.
And that's the way it's been.
Something I've learnt to live with. :-)
*****
Dr. Thapa was a Minister when I was 5 years old.
Dr. Thapa has again become a minister after all these years.
My comment: Something's wrong with the two generations of Nepalis right
ahead of us.
Next, I suppose, is this: Sharad Chandra Shah is to become the Sports Minister, with Jagat Gauchan as his assistant, and there will be mandatory Karate classes for all citizens.
oohi
ashu
ktm,nepal
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| Dream_catcher |
Posted
on 04-Mar-04 05:42 PM
And if BBT, Sharad Shah or J.Gauchan fail, they can always put the blame on the past government or whatever. BBT is a failure.Instead of BBT, I think we need people of new generation. Why not someone like Biswo, Paschim, Ashu and countless number of people who would any day perform better than Thapa or Lohani.
I love to dream,
Dream_catcher
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| M.P. |
Posted
on 04-Mar-04 07:35 PM
Yo desh maa 30 barsa ko lakka-jawaan laai Prime Minister banaaunu parne time bhayeko chha. Someone who knows Nepal well--someone who has not just been outside Nepal, but outside Thankot as well.
If there is ever going to be a janamat sangraha and if the political parties, the king and the maoists are going to compete with other, my wish will be that the student organizations compete separately, so I have someone to vote for. The student organizations (except the one belonging to the Maoists) have started making a lot of sense lately. I have been surprised by the way they handled the elections recently. All those who intended to split the ongoing protests by using the student council elections as weapons must be lameting at their pathetic attempts.
Dream_catcher,
I guess running a country requires a little more than online expertise. That's because you can't put everything on graphs and say, "Look, I found the equilibrium!" Moreover, if elections do not take place--I have heard the "visionary" king is now starting to appoint people to VDCs as well--jantakaa chhoraa like Biswo, Ashu, or Paschim will never make it to Simhadurbar. Unless, of course, they change their last name to Thapa or something. :)
----------------
On a side and unimportant note, I am very worried that my dream to run for MP from Arghakhanchi chhetra no.2 might remain a dream for ever. It seems like, by the time I graduate, finish graduate school and go back to Nepal, election commission wont even exist! :(
Oohi,
Misunderstood Thapa
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| Dream_catcher |
Posted
on 04-Mar-04 07:49 PM
The names are just to get the balls rolling. The trend is towards nomination rather than election in the country. As long as this exists, it will never get better. Manonit hoina nirbachit ko po rajniti hunu parne. K garne
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| Biswo |
Posted
on 04-Mar-04 08:56 PM
Me as a politician?
I will be the happiest to work as an assistant in Nepal's own 'Truth And Reconciliation Commission' once this war is over.
I want to expose mass murderers, monsters who raped and killed women, those officers who ordered or condoned such acts, those maoists who killed people with cold blood. Since most of those killed were from villages, and would otherwise be forgotten, I want our posterity to remember their grief, remember what our nation went through very vividly and remember that the nation didn't forgive those criminals who gave them such a gory history. I want to make sure that this time around we won't buy freedom with blanket amnesty to the criminals. Let's see what happens in future.
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| karmapa |
Posted
on 04-Mar-04 08:58 PM
Hi Bhunte,
By the law of the land (which is how it was phrased), all
you had to do was read up their Citizenship Act (amended
version). Well, if you have the interests of 100,000+
refugees riding on you and you team, you should. If not,
I don't think you even care. And well, the Citizenship
Act is not that long, if you care to know. And if you
believe bilateral relationships depend on the quality of
the government ( and I agree with you here) and not
ambassador (or his team), then what was the last talk all
about: just window dressing, just a farce? You go to the
talk preapared and confident that you can affect an
outcome - or you don't go at all. Well at least, all
other past teams even if they compromised too much and
made too many blunders, they did leave the avenue for
further dialogue open. With Dr. Thapa and his team,
following the Khundabari fiasco, there is no talk. There
will be no talk. There will be no talk until the Nepali
government apologises to the Bhutanese people!!! There
you go - End of the Talk. Dr. Thapa's legacy, perhaps?
Shoot yourself on the foot! Is the Nepali team going to
the JMT to be just trounced by their Bhutanese
counterparts or is it just another short vacation to the
last Shangrila and photo opps? At least, the Bhutanese
team does their homework. If our team doesn't smarten up,
the Bhutanese team will teach them how to be smart; if it
doesn't show maturity, it will teach them maturity, will
teach them how the political game is played in the SAARC
region.
You also wrote:
>> About bhutan issue, you all know how fragile the
situation there is, how india is backing up bhutan even
God wouldn't be a much help. <<
Well looks like he's realised this now. Should have long
ago - while he was posted in New Delhi. Now he's
scrambling to internationalise the issue. The refugees
knew all along if India doesn't intervene, then the issue
should be internationalised. You don't have to be a Ph.D.
in economics to know this - but you do have to listen to
the refugees. The Nepali government internationalising
the issue carries more weight than the refugees or their
orgs doing the same After all, who provides the land for
the refugees, and who is negotiating with the Bhutan govt
on their behalf?
Well, if you are so fatalistic as to say 'even God
wouldn't be of much help', at least we have to do our
homework, listen to the refugees, and all sides, and
knock on the New Delhi Gate, and failing that
internationalise the issue - so that later no one should
blame Nepali government or Dr. Thapa and his team. You
should be able to look the refugees in the eye and say
"Well we tried!" If they agree and say, 'Yes you did,
thank!' that's some consolation.
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Hi isolate freak,
You wrote: >>Late Prof. Merrill Godall who was the
advisor and one of his political economics Profs. at CGU
(then CGS) spoke very highly of him. Dr. Thapa, who holds
the record for being the youngest policy maker Nepal ever
had, has proved his worth time and again while
negotiating with India on trade/economics related issues.
This is a good news for all of us 5 +1 CC + CGU grads. Go
Claremonters GO! <<
Well even the professors of JNU must have some good
things to say about Baburam Bhattarai. Here is what CK
Lal wrote: "Professor Muni [of JNU] is a cordon bleu
republican and doesn't hide his fascination for another
JNU almunus, Baburam Bhattarai. Muni feels the atrocities
attributed to Maobadis in Nepal are government
propaganda.] So by your logic, we should all praise
Baburam Bhattarai and play a cheerleader American style:
go JNU go! Come on, don't be so immature - grow up, dude!
This is not a college basketball game!!!
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| jivman |
Posted
on 05-Mar-04 08:50 AM
I heard the same thing that our side in Nepal Team does not do damn thing. All they do during the meeting with Bhutanese counter part is waste their time. Our side knows nothing shit since and obviously we change every 6 months. Whereas I heard Bhutanese team has same members for the last 10 yrs and they know what they are talking about.
Another politics game: Victim: Refugees.
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| saroj |
Posted
on 09-Mar-04 06:51 PM
Bhunte I'm sorry i don't have time to check for posts and respond every hour but it looks like you do need some mental help there.
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