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Prachanda Says Let's Swap The POWs

   Yep, Kantipur Online reported that. The 22-Mar-04 Biswo
     I don't think Maoists are expecting the 22-Mar-04 noname
       Biswo, news flash for ya, bud: Your demo 22-Mar-04 sajhakoraja
         nonameji, We never know what the Maoi 22-Mar-04 Biswo
           I don't recall 100%, but was not there a 23-Mar-04 failedstate
             failedstate, Yes, I know which event 26-Mar-04 Biswo
               The fight in Beni does not seem to be a 26-Mar-04 mitra 2
                 I meant kali gandaki and myagdi khola 26-Mar-04 mitra 2
                   Oh, definitely, the whole Gandaki region 26-Mar-04 Biswo
                     Biswo ji, very accurate description of t 26-Mar-04 Puru Subedi


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Biswo Posted on 22-Mar-04 02:04 PM

Yep, Kantipur Online reported that. The Maoists say let's swap Professor Ale Magar, Matrika Yadav and Tilak Sharma with 33 police and two formerly obscure CDO/DSP.

My guess is government won't do it. They did last time, they swapped some Maoists with one DSP, who also happened to be a very close relative of a high ranking police chief then.

Despite their trappings and influence locally, CDO/DSP are pretty low ranking officers while viewed from Kathmandu. 33 police jawaans are just the lambs. I bet these lambs don't have any close relative in Nepal's ruling circle. Furthermore, the government can always conveniently argue that it won't negotiate with the terrorists.

Knowledgeable people have always decried the way government treated professor Alemagar and Matrika Yadav. Terrorists they are, but we have to follow the rule of our own country. Because they were so high value targets, they should have been tried in court to prove the government's faith in constitutional process. Well, Gyanendra and his bunches have never had any faith on constitution, just like Prachanda and his bunches. It is so sickening, they, Gyanendra and Co, are definitely going to destroy our democracy in the name of saving it.

I don't think very highly of the Maoists, but my guess is they are going to wait for the government's actions, and once they know they got all 'duwaa, trikaa'in their hand in stead of aces, they will release their 'POW's. They need human right organizations very much, and they can't afford to kill the people they have so openly claimed to be in their control. Our government , unfortunately, doesn't feel that way and it has killed very weak and innocent people once they are taken in custody.

The number of death people the government claimed was pretty shocking. It was equal to the cumulative death toll of Americans in Iraq last year.It was so depressing to read such news in international media. In all likelihood, it seems, the army made another joke of itself by multiplying the real numbers. The army has a habit of multiplying the umbers and we have to understand by dividing it. Such a credibility gap!
noname Posted on 22-Mar-04 05:06 PM

I don't think Maoists are expecting the government to free their comrades in exchange of the release of the government officials. What, I suppose, Maoists are looking for is international attention, and they got it. US, Indian and British diplomats, cozying up in their couch with the reports provided by the Army, were too optimistic about possibility of holding general elections, and the Maoists bring it home that what the so called advocates of democracy see by reading the reports and visiting army barracks and PM's office is not the true picture.

And, what is more disgusting is the claim by Minister Thapa that general elections can still be held. Shame to his knowledge about democracy and general election.
sajhakoraja Posted on 22-Mar-04 05:28 PM

Biswo, news flash for ya, bud: Your democracy doesn't exist. Sorry to interrupt your pontificating.
Biswo Posted on 22-Mar-04 07:44 PM

nonameji,

We never know what the Maoists are expecting, but I agree with your analysis. I guess they want 'attention'. Naam ho, badnaam ho, gumnaam naho, sounds like perfect motto for any rebellion.

sajhakoraja,

wow. Great news flash.But I knew that already.

Here is one other news: the government has rejected to issue Tek Nath Rijal travel document. Guess what? ' sansaarkaa dictator haru ek hau ' seems to be Gyanendra and co.'s motto. No wonder, when I was in KTM this summer, Paras was welcoming Bhutanese queen and prince(I guess they have quite a few of queen/princes there), and KTM's roads were blocked here and there for the grand welcome of Jigme's family members.
failedstate Posted on 23-Mar-04 11:27 PM

I don't recall 100%, but was not there an incident during the Girija's PMship, where a large contingent of the hardcore Red Army was surrounded by the army, and then they were forced to negotiate and retreat? I may be wrong. I hope that the RNA does not make such mistakes anymore. The sad part is that the district administration did know about the impending attack and seem to have been overwhelmed by the waves of rebels (2500- 3000) that included many forced young recruits. What's up with that beheading? The rebels seem better equipped this time with long range launchers. While the so-called elites in the capital go about their business conducting seminars on conflict resolution, the RNA is spilling its blood on the front line. Go RNA!
Biswo Posted on 26-Mar-04 11:56 AM

failedstate,

Yes, I know which event you are referring to. But they were exaggerating when they said they had sorrounded the Maoists at the time.

Think about this, to sorround one self-contained mountain, you need more than a thousand well equipped army.To sorround the range of mountain that lie there in Rolpa / Rukum, which abut green jungles, it is virtually impossible with the number of armies we have in the western region.

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So, I read in the newspaper that the armymen are now shooting from Helicopter. Aerial bombardments were always very imprecise methods to attack .Even Americans with their surgical precision ability have made quite a few mistakes in their bombardment.
Any bombardment without intelligent feedback from ground is haphazard, and arbitrary.

And we are seeing that. Army dropped the bomb, and there they killed six poor construction workers sitting and eating their meal. Army shot randomly, and they shot at the abducted DSP and some police. Hello? This is not war. These people would have dropped the n-bomb in western Nepal if they had possessed one:they think everyone there is the Maoist. This is insanity.

mitra 2 Posted on 26-Mar-04 01:10 PM

The fight in Beni does not seem to be a close fight as the government has claimed. I'm not sure now how those police/amry jawan survived. They may have fled the scene before or soon after the fight began. According to Nepali Times report, it was a one sided war.

Maoists may have killed their own cadres when they were firing mortars from miles away. How precise they could be when their own members outnumbered police/army and are spread in many layers? Just my guess...

BTW, city of Beni looks beautiful in the banks of Baglung/Kali Gandaki rivers. I have not seen many cities by the side of river in Nepal.

Bad blood in Beni
-http://www.nepalnews.com/ntimes/issue189/headline.htm
mitra 2 Posted on 26-Mar-04 01:13 PM

I meant kali gandaki and myagdi khola
Biswo Posted on 26-Mar-04 01:48 PM

Oh, definitely, the whole Gandaki region is so beautiful.

Last summer, I was there. Didn't go to Beni, but had enquired about it. The road from Pokhara to Baglung seems to be one of the most beautiful scenic roads I've ever seen. At the time, quaint villages espy the roads from afar, while lush green flat fields of rice grow up comfortably near the circuitously flowing river. The land cut by river looks as if it was cut by following some aesthetic formula: at some places, steeply cut land has white sand interior exposed, in others, green, black soil stretches all the way to the agriculture field.

Then, one could see a devastated police post on the road to Baglung reminding how deceptive the beauty could be. When I was visiting Baglung Kalika temple, a posse of military personnels entered the temple which had many tall age-old trees in its yard. From afar, I was hearing shootings, they told me the army was 'just practicing'. In the Baglung bazaar itself, the environment was more pleasant and less threatening. A group of politicians were doing the 'aamaran anashan', contrasting the way power is being contested in our country. It is sad things have worsened from the summer. Yet, yes, Beni and Baglung are very beautiful when viewd from afar, or in pictures, especially in the pictures that doesn't show blood, shots, and charred bodies.
Puru Subedi Posted on 26-Mar-04 02:54 PM

Biswo ji, very accurate description of the place. The further you go the more beautiful places you will find. The revolt has to happen one day. If any of you would like to read more about Myagdeli people and society there, you can read "Yo Samaj!" maha kavya by H.N. Subedi on Nepalpost.com at:

http://www.nepalipost.com/epic.html

It is little difficult read becuse of the use of "Chhanda".

-PS